FlyUS Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Anyone have a map of where all the tracts are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 this is just a theory, but I think the 'egg' aligns with the land act reservoir, also the penris building where it meets the road is triangle shaped and it also points at the reervoir... I've scoured that area in the sub but couldn't find anything. If any place would be a volcanic crater, i think it would be that place. I haven't tried searching there with Micheal though... maybe there is a reflection of something there? Chapter 2, Verse 3 The lake in which truth lives is very clean and clear, but not as clean or clear as it is clean and clear that those who have been shown our truth form and have questioned, and have doubted and have not understood are themselves, not in fact weak, but the Unsaveables. By even thinking a question, you are likening yourself to the volcano that sucks lava into itself and explodes down, causing the entire paradigm to implode and a mighty race of super beings to be cast adrift into space, as happened once and must never happen again. Clean and clear could easily mean a reservoir. Lets get searching in that reservoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoW Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 been there and every other lake in the game nothing to be found and this was all done with micheal in kifflom robes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONZO Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Sorry for the sh*tty cell phone pic but here's the two emblems: http://i.imgur.com/Dj5uFts.jpg There's clearly an Epsilon on the Los Santos one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathChildz Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Here's whats seems important to me, google translate.. I'm french and i read the whole text in French. 4th paradigm = Fire : He who has a wine stain on the head or face is spirited drinks with Kraff Peachs = Apples = The tree that was in the egg, which was near the eagle. Egg = Maze Bank from top view there's cracked egg. Eagle = FIB OR IAA Lake which contains a peach The peach talk, so the apple too. If we hear, we know. Search traffic: bumper cars. = Winged Lezard can fly or a man with hair and the color pink does not cause unhappiness with his lie. The tears of salt poison garden Move towards the blue light, and the lake, and apple, and other metaphors. A great eagle that feeds the lake. If that can give a clue to someone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONZO Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) I was hoping to get some Redditors in on the action so I started this thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/comments/1n8fsk/the_epsilon_theory_thread/ Someone brought up an interesting image that seems related to the tracts: http://imgur.com/WFKRoYS Edit: This image (http://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/comments/1n7r3k/not_sure_the_relevance_of_this_but/) seems to be related to the one above it. Also, these people have been found around the GTA world: http://i.imgur.com/tCFQuii.jpg Maybe they can provide some extra clues. Apparently, Jesse and Joscha are in the Epsilon missions. Someone said they spotted Jesse at the Del Perro pier though. Someone else said they saw a woman walking around downtown in the same blue shirt as the one in the photo but couldn't remember what she said. Edited September 27, 2013 by ONZO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONZO Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) This will be my last sleep-deprived theory of the night, hopefully something will be made of it in the morning. The tracts are really tough to get through but they mention a lot of things that are related to the mural (space travel, eggs, etc). A lot of it is cryptic but I'm pretty sure it gives major clues (one part says "if you know this, you will know everything"). Since the top of Mt. Chiliad says "Come back when your story is complete" and since apparently "the tract is not yet written," I feel like we're supposed to 'write' the last tract to complete our story. If you look at the greek letters at the beginning of each tract chapter (from Z-A), phi is the only letter missing in that order. A lot of the glyphs strongly resemble the phi letter too. The whole thing is probably essential to solving the mystery but I bet the chapters leading up to phi (omega, psi, chi) are what we need to know for the 'phi tract' to happen, and the one's after phi (upsilon & tau) are what happens after you do it. Edited September 27, 2013 by ONZO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalNo0b Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I feel like, if there is any truth to this whole shenanigan, it is to be found with this Epsilon lead. We need some dedicated people in this thread, rather than the flame war going on in the jetpack hunt thread. I'm about to go and have another look, I'll report back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flicklebean Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 "And bounteousness is a mirror. A mirror in a lake where the truth lives. Drink from this lake and also water from the peach tree but do not quench the fire that brings the dove, and do not pick the apple that may one day become an Eagle, a great Eagle who feeds from the lake"- from chapter 2 verse 4 I dont know if it has any relevance, but , there is a park in east vinewood (in box G,5 on paper map). Its not too far from the maze bank (egg), IAA (eagle). It is called MIRROR park and contains a pond/lake with an island..Im not at home so cant investigate until later, but might be worth looking in to... I think you guys are on the right track (all the crazy people over on the jetpack hunt forum have spiralled into chaos)... there is also roads around the park named mirror place, mirror drive, mirror park blvd and utopia gardens... this may be really farfetched and nonsensical but utopia gardens may refer to the garden of Eden... where adam and eve ate an apple from the forbidden tree and were cast out of paradise and went on to create everyone else...so in a sense we all did come from a single apple tree...especially if the apple and forbidden fruit was a metaphor for them f*cking like bunnies... im pretty sure theres some sh*t about doves and fire and sh*t in the part bible too? i do kind of have my doubts that Rockstar would have a bible story as clues due to the nature of their games, but who doesnt know the story of adam and eve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedMenace Uk Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 The first verses of each chapter are all labeled with a letter of the Greek Alphabet (Omega, Psi, Chi, Upsilon, Tau). Those are in reverse order, so they aren't meant to be read from Chapter 5-1 if that makes sense. There are two things that stand out to me: 1 - There are a lot of references to "paying for the wisdom". I think we are supposed to donate a large sum of money to Epsilon. Especially since the option to donate still exists after completing the mission. I donated over $100,000 and nothing happened so far. 2 - "Here ends the first part of the tract of the 9th paradigm." Maybe this entire text is one of the 5 missing tracts and the others will reveal themselves after this one is solved and found. Your theory is busted because I stole epsilons money and can no longer donate. It says my I.p is blocked when accessing there website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 "And bounteousness is a mirror. A mirror in a lake where the truth lives. Drink from this lake and also water from the peach tree but do not quench the fire that brings the dove, and do not pick the apple that may one day become an Eagle, a great Eagle who feeds from the lake"- from chapter 2 verse 4 I dont know if it has any relevance, but , there is a park in east vinewood (in box G,5 on paper map). Its not too far from the maze bank (egg), IAA (eagle). It is called MIRROR park and contains a pond/lake with an island..Im not at home so cant investigate until later, but might be worth looking in to... I think you guys are on the right track (all the crazy people over on the jetpack hunt forum have spiralled into chaos)... there is also roads around the park named mirror place, mirror drive, mirror park blvd and utopia gardens... this may be really farfetched and nonsensical but utopia gardens may refer to the garden of Eden... where adam and eve ate an apple from the forbidden tree and were cast out of paradise and went on to create everyone else...so in a sense we all did come from a single apple tree...especially if the apple and forbidden fruit was a metaphor for them f*cking like bunnies... im pretty sure theres some sh*t about doves and fire and sh*t in the part bible too? i do kind of have my doubts that Rockstar would have a bible story as clues due to the nature of their games, but who doesnt know the story of adam and eve? This is a nice find. I'm willing to bet my next pay check that that's what they mean when they talk about the truth being in a lake with a mirror. I still think we might have to collect them in order tho but its tough to pinpoint whether it starts with omega or if that's the last verse and they are meant to be read in revers order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 Just noticed that Maryweather also uses an eagle as their logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathChildz Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 The first verses of each chapter are all labeled with a letter of the Greek Alphabet (Omega, Psi, Chi, Upsilon, Tau). Those are in reverse order, so they aren't meant to be read from Chapter 5-1 if that makes sense. There are two things that stand out to me: 1 - There are a lot of references to "paying for the wisdom". I think we are supposed to donate a large sum of money to Epsilon. Especially since the option to donate still exists after completing the mission. I donated over $100,000 and nothing happened so far. 2 - "Here ends the first part of the tract of the 9th paradigm." Maybe this entire text is one of the 5 missing tracts and the others will reveal themselves after this one is solved and found. Your theory is busted because I stole epsilons money and can no longer donate. It says my I.p is blocked when accessing there website I stole it too but i've acess to their website.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 The first verses of each chapter are all labeled with a letter of the Greek Alphabet (Omega, Psi, Chi, Upsilon, Tau). Those are in reverse order, so they aren't meant to be read from Chapter 5-1 if that makes sense. There are two things that stand out to me: 1 - There are a lot of references to "paying for the wisdom". I think we are supposed to donate a large sum of money to Epsilon. Especially since the option to donate still exists after completing the mission. I donated over $100,000 and nothing happened so far. 2 - "Here ends the first part of the tract of the 9th paradigm." Maybe this entire text is one of the 5 missing tracts and the others will reveal themselves after this one is solved and found. Your theory is busted because I stole epsilons money and can no longer donate. It says my I.p is blocked when accessing there website I stole it too but i've acess to their website.. Make sure you are playing as micheal. It won't show up for Trevor or frank because they are deemed unsaveable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedMenace Uk Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 The first verses of each chapter are all labeled with a letter of the Greek Alphabet (Omega, Psi, Chi, Upsilon, Tau). Those are in reverse order, so they aren't meant to be read from Chapter 5-1 if that makes sense. There are two things that stand out to me: 1 - There are a lot of references to "paying for the wisdom". I think we are supposed to donate a large sum of money to Epsilon. Especially since the option to donate still exists after completing the mission. I donated over $100,000 and nothing happened so far. 2 - "Here ends the first part of the tract of the 9th paradigm." Maybe this entire text is one of the 5 missing tracts and the others will reveal themselves after this one is solved and found. Your theory is busted because I stole epsilons money and can no longer donate. It says my I.p is blocked when accessing there website I stole it too but i've acess to their website.. Surely not, try again. You can access the site but all pages are replaced with a message saying your I.p is blocked because u r an unsaveable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedMenace Uk Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Also for anyone that doesn't know already. There is another similar mission to the epsilon one. If you go franklin access the website called mydevinewithin at the end you get a t shirt which says children of the mountain on it and a PIC of mount chillad. Maybe connected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 "And bounteousness is a mirror. A mirror in a lake where the truth lives. Drink from this lake and also water from the peach tree but do not quench the fire that brings the dove, and do not pick the apple that may one day become an Eagle, a great Eagle who feeds from the lake"- from chapter 2 verse 4 I dont know if it has any relevance, but , there is a park in east vinewood (in box G,5 on paper map). Its not too far from the maze bank (egg), IAA (eagle). It is called MIRROR park and contains a pond/lake with an island..Im not at home so cant investigate until later, but might be worth looking in to... I think you guys are on the right track (all the crazy people over on the jetpack hunt forum have spiralled into chaos)... there is also roads around the park named mirror place, mirror drive, mirror park blvd and utopia gardens... this may be really farfetched and nonsensical but utopia gardens may refer to the garden of Eden... where adam and eve ate an apple from the forbidden tree and were cast out of paradise and went on to create everyone else...so in a sense we all did come from a single apple tree...especially if the apple and forbidden fruit was a metaphor for them f*cking like bunnies... im pretty sure theres some sh*t about doves and fire and sh*t in the part bible too? i do kind of have my doubts that Rockstar would have a bible story as clues due to the nature of their games, but who doesnt know the story of adam and eve? This is a nice find. I'm willing to bet my next pay check that that's what they mean when they talk about the truth being in a lake with a mirror. I still think we might have to collect them in order tho but its tough to pinpoint whether it starts with omega or if that's the last verse and they are meant to be read in revers order. I think we should start marking all of these clues on our minimaps and seeing if they make a pattern like an arrow or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathChildz Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 The first verses of each chapter are all labeled with a letter of the Greek Alphabet (Omega, Psi, Chi, Upsilon, Tau). Those are in reverse order, so they aren't meant to be read from Chapter 5-1 if that makes sense. There are two things that stand out to me: 1 - There are a lot of references to "paying for the wisdom". I think we are supposed to donate a large sum of money to Epsilon. Especially since the option to donate still exists after completing the mission. I donated over $100,000 and nothing happened so far. 2 - "Here ends the first part of the tract of the 9th paradigm." Maybe this entire text is one of the 5 missing tracts and the others will reveal themselves after this one is solved and found. Your theory is busted because I stole epsilons money and can no longer donate. It says my I.p is blocked when accessing there website I stole it too but i've acess to their website.. Make sure you are playing as micheal. It won't show up for Trevor or frank because they are deemed unsaveable. I swear you, i'm playing with Michael, and stolen the money, and i have an acess to their website. I don't have anymore the mail or text that says "Kraff is powerfull sh*ttysh*thurdurr" Anyway, we go off topic.. But i can acess to their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Currently doing a sweep of the FIB and IAA area seeing if i can find anything people missed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Has anyone noticed that all of the buildings that seem to be related to this have blue lighting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 Has anyone noticed that all of the buildings that seem to be related to this have blue lighting? "You have it in you to be happy, but you are not happy because you are surrounded by men who want you dead because they doubt and in doubting they prove they are Unsaveable, so if you cannot kill them, let them go, and move towards the blue light abd the lake and the apple and the other metaphors and away from the empty place in which objection and death unite as one." Mentions blue light. I think were breaking this thing wide open now man. ONZO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 The first verses of each chapter are all labeled with a letter of the Greek Alphabet (Omega, Psi, Chi, Upsilon, Tau). Those are in reverse order, so they aren't meant to be read from Chapter 5-1 if that makes sense. There are two things that stand out to me: 1 - There are a lot of references to "paying for the wisdom". I think we are supposed to donate a large sum of money to Epsilon. Especially since the option to donate still exists after completing the mission. I donated over $100,000 and nothing happened so far. 2 - "Here ends the first part of the tract of the 9th paradigm." Maybe this entire text is one of the 5 missing tracts and the others will reveal themselves after this one is solved and found. Your theory is busted because I stole epsilons money and can no longer donate. It says my I.p is blocked when accessing there website I stole it too but i've acess to their website.. Make sure you are playing as micheal. It won't show up for Trevor or frank because they are deemed unsaveable. I swear you, i'm playing with Michael, and stolen the money, and i have an acess to their website. I don't have anymore the mail or text that says "Kraff is powerfull sh*ttysh*thurdurr" Anyway, we go off topic.. But i can acess to their website. You should get a text from Marnie regardless of what you do because she sends you an angry text even if you help the guy with the money. Just head up to the Mount Chiliad lookout and the first one should be there. If not then we can consider that into the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Has anyone noticed that all of the buildings that seem to be related to this have blue lighting? "You have it in you to be happy, but you are not happy because you are surrounded by men who want you dead because they doubt and in doubting they prove they are Unsaveable, so if you cannot kill them, let them go, and move towards the blue light abd the lake and the apple and the other metaphors and away from the empty place in which objection and death unite as one." Mentions blue light. I think were breaking this thing wide open now man. OK, so on a hunch, I spawned a chopper and flew up above the block with the IAA and FIB buildings and I noticed that a large portion of the map has BLUE street lights instead of orange. Also the Maze Bank, FIB, IAA and the Eagle all have blue lighting. I'm still not 100% sold that the 'egg' at maze bank is the egg we want however. I will wait till night again and see if there is blue lighting there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1SC0NT1NU3D Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Hey guys, I was a lurker on multiple jetpack threads and they have gotten extremely out of hand the more I saw what was going on, combined with me actually finishing Michaels Epsilon missions, has got me thinking that you guys are on the right track. I think anymore big easter eggs that may still be hidden will be related to this or something else but not all the craziness that the jet pack threads became. If you need any help just ask...I am at 100% btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1SC0NT1NU3D Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Has anyone checked mirror park yet? I'll do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Hey guys, I was a lurker on multiple jetpack threads and they have gotten extremely out of hand the more I saw what was going on, combined with me actually finishing Michaels Epsilon missions, has got me thinking that you guys are on the right track. I think anymore big easter eggs that may still be hidden will be related to this or something else but not all the craziness that the jet pack threads became. If you need any help just ask...I am at 100% btw. If you are a PS3 user add me on skype clarose420 and we can try voice chat to work this out. I'm not 100% so I could use some people to help test my theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairbnotsew Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 Has anyone noticed that all of the buildings that seem to be related to this have blue lighting? "You have it in you to be happy, but you are not happy because you are surrounded by men who want you dead because they doubt and in doubting they prove they are Unsaveable, so if you cannot kill them, let them go, and move towards the blue light abd the lake and the apple and the other metaphors and away from the empty place in which objection and death unite as one." Mentions blue light. I think were breaking this thing wide open now man. OK, so on a hunch, I spawned a chopper and flew up above the block with the IAA and FIB buildings and I noticed that a large portion of the map has BLUE street lights instead of orange. Also the Maze Bank, FIB, IAA and the Eagle all have blue lighting. I'm still not 100% sold that the 'egg' at maze bank is the egg we want however. I will wait till night again and see if there is blue lighting there as well. Do the blue street lights make a path of some kind? Maybe go way up above the city and see if the blue lights make a design or a marking. Also, someone mentioned a restaurant with a giant cracked egg or a golden chicken. There was also a rumor of a billboard on the highway with the message "heres your nesting egg!". According to some, a giant egg appears here after 100% completion. Something to possibly look into. P.S. Looks like its me and you who are gonna get this done eh Larose-? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Has anyone checked mirror park yet? I'll do that. I cant find mirror park. If you do find it please link a socialclub pic of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 The restaurant with the chicken is one of the properties you can buy. Its not near all the other clues however. Thats why I only mentioned it as an afterthought. (It is however by the Chiliad) Its sunset right now im about to fly around and write down the names of all the buildings with blue lights in the section with all the big corporations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larose- Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) The blue STREET lights come on at 11 PM if anyone else wants to check it out. Ran into the rear roto of my heli and killed myself -.- Edited September 27, 2013 by Larose- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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