Decoding the Mount Chiliad Mural

[Ins4n1ty]

So its useless to check the base again?

[AnEvilVet]

So its useless to check the base again?

 

Personally, I would say it is. But then I think all of the UFOs have been found and there isn't a jetpack in the game, so it's up to you if you take my advice.

[Deadman2112]

 

 

 

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/comments/1rgzd8/found_this_huge_underwater_cavern_cant_get_in_due/

Anyone checked into this?

Anyone know the location of this?

I believe he said it was here...

 

i think its the top poi, im sure the lower one is the sunken tanksNice one fellas ill check it outSomeone already did

They said it's nothing more than a hole in the rock

Edited November 26, 2013 by Deadman2112

[Xh0sa_NightMare]

Yes I am 100% sure.

 

All of the other written clues on this part of the map indicate the location of collectible items, they are not giving commands on what to do. So having the words 'Take control' would direct you to the control tower.

 

Rail cabin, In the drink, Between the crates, Shoot for the stars, Take Control, Open grave, etc are all hints to the locations of collectibles.

 

The symbol on the map at the fort is not circling a particular building, it is showing that you need to go through double doors and go up. All of the other collectibles are outside, this is the only one inside, hence the need for such a symbol.

 

But the box is not around the control tower. "Take control" could simply mean take the minigun from the control tower agreed. But that square and arrow is on the hangar. Also the bring 500k thing doesn't add up either. Do you agree the box is not on the control tower or am I going insane =[

 

I compared the blueprint map I linked earlier to the map in the box and it is the Hangar which is connected to multiple smaller buildings :|

Edited November 26, 2013 by Xh0sa_NightMare

[Ins4n1ty]

That map has alot of wierd stuff like. I never found the stash north of it and why is there a alien or space ship doodle or the rail cabin is kind of pointless. Whats at the golfing place , here is also the doodle. And as you say with the sonar dock. Why weapons, why it mention clothing. And why the duck is it saying trevor Philips enterprise. Is he in Charge of the ufo's??? That map gives more question then it should answer

[MrEZmoneymaker]

Well......

 

We were in Reddit chat talking about walking the arrow.

We all did our own lineup ideas.

Mine ran right through that ring in the lake....

Maybe we need to get the moon to reflect in that?

just thought id give you an update on this HakatoX.

i tried quite a few times, had full moon also. tried getting in the water at 3am in moon beam on the water. tried ringing every combination of the wow signal (+6, -6 etc) just ended up trying to ring any contact & couldnt get through to anyone, not even voice msg? tried 3am other places & the calls still worked? noticed if it was cloudy tho they would work, at rock circle, only when clear sky it didnt?

also would get extremely dense fog on perfect clear nite, right after 4am? also very brilliant blue sky? not sure if anything? as never noticed that before.

will try again tomorow to see if that was just a glitch in my game the 2 times i tried to ring in clear skies. probably was.

also not sure if i had game save glitch or a freaky coincidence?? but saw these twice at 3am on cloudy night at rock pool? gave me the bloody creeps at the time to lol will post again if i see anything.

Edited November 26, 2013 by MrEZmoneymaker

[AnEvilVet]

 

Yes I am 100% sure.

 

All of the other written clues on this part of the map indicate the location of collectible items, they are not giving commands on what to do. So having the words 'Take control' would direct you to the control tower.

 

Rail cabin, In the drink, Between the crates, Shoot for the stars, Take Control, Open grave, etc are all hints to the locations of collectibles.

 

The symbol on the map at the fort is not circling a particular building, it is showing that you need to go through double doors and go up. All of the other collectibles are outside, this is the only one inside, hence the need for such a symbol.

 

But the box is not around the control tower. "Take control" could simply mean take the minigun from the control tower agreed. But that square and arrow is on the hangar. Also the bring 500k thing doesn't add up either. Do you agree the box is not on the control tower or am I going insane =[

 

I compared the blueprint map I linked earlier to the map in the box and it is the Hangar which is connected to multiple smaller buildings :|

 

 

As I said, the symbol isn't a circle to indicate a particular building. It's a symbol of double doors and an arrow which means go through some doors and go up, which is exactly what you need to do to get the mini-gun. In conjunction with the phrase 'Take Control' this indicates to go into the control tower and go up.

 

And also, the control tower is the only enterable building here and the only one with stairs, it has 'control' in the name and it also has a collectible which ties it to every other text clue on this side of the map as they all lead to collectibles.

 

Nowhere else on this side of the map are the text clues telling you to do something, so you going to the fort and trying to take control of something will never work.

 

I agree that the 500k thing doesn't add up but that's for Rockstar to comment on.

[Druminator]

So have we determined that the five X's are the five glyphs? Reddit seems to think that just because it doesn't line up in any way that it isn't. I think they are. I don't know how much more since it could make.

[AnEvilVet]

That map has alot of wierd stuff like. I never found the stash north of it and why is there a alien or space ship doodle or the rail cabin is kind of pointless. Whats at the golfing place , here is also the doodle. And as you say with the sonar dock. Why weapons, why it mention clothing. And why the duck is it saying trevor Philips enterprise. Is he in Charge of the ufo's??? That map gives more question then it should answer

 

Stash is the weed farm.

The rail cabin contains either armour or a weapon.

The alien/spaceship doodles indicate collectible spaceship parts.

It doesn't mention clothing anywhere.

It says Trevor Phillips Enterprise to add a bit of verisimilitude or reality to it. Trevor or Ron have created this map and sent it to you, the person who is bringing money to buy drugs off them. This is why there are instructions on the back telling you where to go and how much money to bring. It also explains why you have a blueprint map and why it has secret messages written on it in invisible ink.

Edited November 26, 2013 by AnEvilVet

[Ins4n1ty]

One of the x's ist that face right??? I dont know how it exactly looks like right now but iknow that the 1st thing that came to mind was a troll dface when i 1st saw it.

 

Dosent trevors map say casual wear at the back

???

Edited November 26, 2013 by Ins4n1ty

[AnEvilVet]

So have we determined that the five X's are the five glyphs? Reddit seems to think that just because it doesn't line up in any way that it isn't. I think they are. I don't know how much more since it could make.

 

Oh yes, they definitely are. The location match up as best as possible and they all link in to making the eye at the summit appear, the eye being the UFO.

 

One of the x's ist that face right??? I dont know how it exactly looks like right now but iknow that the 1st thing that came to mind was a troll dface when i 1st saw it.

 

No it isn't.

Edited November 26, 2013 by AnEvilVet

[TH3 ONE]

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/comments/1rgzd8/found_this_huge_underwater_cavern_cant_get_in_due/

Anyone checked into this?

Anyone know the location of this?

I believe he said it was here...

 

i think its the top poi, im sure the lower one is the sunken tanksNice one fellas ill check it outSomeone already did

They said it's nothing more than a hole in the rock

Been down the whole east coast there's f*ck all

[Druminator]

We need to get the meaning of the glyphs out of the way then. Which one is the UFO the shows up? The red eye, the single eye or the UFO box?

[MrEZmoneymaker]

We need to get the meaning of the glyphs out of the way then. Which one is the UFO the shows up? The red eye, the single eye or the UFO box?

i would say just 2 glyphs, 3am & rain cloud. as ufo in box still awaits & eye at top of mural represents all seeing eye (the truth will be shown here) just my opinion tho.

gd luck trying to get a consensus on the correct glyph meanings. everybody has different opinions on them.

Edited November 28, 2013 by MrEZmoneymaker

[themutedtrumpet]

Oh yes, they definitely are. The location match up as best as possible and they all link in to making the eye at the summit appear, the eye being the UFO.

 

That's not true, three of them do. You could argue that the half glyph is something to do with the UFO behaving like a hologram, but that's no more than a guess and you don't need to know that to make it appear. The whole eye glyph gives you no information whatsoever.

 

EDIT: I do agree that the mural points you to these locations, but only three of them have any meaning to us at the moment.

Edited November 26, 2013 by themutedtrumpet

[Uncle Cletus]

Sounds like a stupid idea. pffft find the meaning of the glyphs. ijit

[Druminator]

Yea it's kind of hopeless at this point. They could mean so many things.

 

I'm still very intrigued by the use of color at the hippie camp and the Altruist camp. The color of the writings at the Altruist camp are the same colors that the hippie camp is painted in. One glyph at the hippie camp is red and the other is yellow.

[AnEvilVet]

We need to get the meaning of the glyphs out of the way then. Which one is the UFO the shows up? The red eye, the single eye or the UFO box?

 

Okay, the red eye on top of Mount Chiliad indicates that you need to be there to see the UFO. The eye above the mountain on the mural indicates the UFO.

 

The 5 boxes on the mural with Xes in them indicate the location of the glyphs.

 

In my opinion, the 5 glyphs represent the following pieces of information. Please note that this is opinion based as is any interpretation of symbols -

 

Going clockwise from the top-right of the central line -

 

'Beam' glyph - This isn't a beam but is a zig-zag path leading up the mountain and represents that you need to be at the top of the mountain to see the UFO

Moon glyph - You can only see the UFO at night, specifically at the witching hour 3am. This represents that condition.

Eye glyph - This represents that you will see a UFO and that all other appearances of the eye symbol in the game represent a UFO.

Faded eye glyph - This represents that the UFO is immaterial, which is why it disappears when you get near it.

Rain - Represents that you can only see the UFO during rain.

 

Essentially, you start your journey at the bottom of the mountain and work your way up. You find out it's a UFO, then that itmay not be what it seems, then you get the conditions to see it. At the top of the mountain, you also get the additional clue that it only shows when you have completed 100% with the message engraved on the observation deck.

 

The symbols at the bottom of the mural represent locations of other UFOs -

 

Egg - Paleto Bay, home of Cluckin' Bell has a UFO underwater.

UFO - This is the same shape as the UFO attached to a car at the Sculpture Park/Hippy Camp

Jetpack - Famous in GTA history for having been found at a military base.

 

The lightning bolts, 'path' lines and lines at the bottom of the mural have nothing to do with seeing the UFOs, they are just for decoration.

 

And, in my opinion, that's the mural decoded.

[Druminator]

Sounds like a stupid idea. pffft find the meaning of the glyphs. ijit

Yea it really is. We know the meaning of two of them, let's just ignore the others, I'm sure they don't mean anything.

[Druminator]

 

We need to get the meaning of the glyphs out of the way then. Which one is the UFO the shows up? The red eye, the single eye or the UFO box?

 

Okay, the red eye on top of Mount Chiliad indicates that you need to be there to see the UFO. The eye above the mountain on the mural indicates the UFO.

 

The 5 boxes on the mural with Xes in them indicate the location of the glyphs.

 

In my opinion, the 5 glyphs represent the following pieces of information. Please note that this is opinion based as is any interpretation of symbols -

 

Going clockwise from the top-right of the central line -

 

'Beam' glyph - This isn't a beam but is a zig-zag path leading up the mountain and represents that you need to be at the top of the mountain to see the UFO

Moon glyph - You can only see the UFO at night, specifically at the witching hour 3am. This represents that condition.

Eye glyph - This represents that you will see a UFO and that all other appearances of the eye symbol in the game represent a UFO.

Faded eye glyph - This represents that the UFO is immaterial, which is why it disappears when you get near it.

Rain - Represents that you can only see the UFO during rain.

 

Essentially, you start your journey at the bottom of the mountain and work your way up. You find out it's a UFO, then that itmay not be what it seems, then you get the conditions to see it. At the top of the mountain, you also get the additional clue that it only shows when you have completed 100% with the message engraved on the observation deck.

 

The symbols at the bottom of the mural represent locations of other UFOs -

 

Egg - Paleto Bay, home of Cluckin' Bell has a UFO underwater.

UFO - This is the same shape as the UFO attached to a car at the Sculpture Park/Hippy Camp

Jetpack - Famous in GTA history for having been found at a military base.

 

The lightning bolts, 'path' lines and lines at the bottom of the mural have nothing to do with seeing the UFOs, they are just for decoration.

 

And, in my opinion, that's the mural decoded.

 

What I don't understand is why would one of the glyphs tell us to go to the top of the mountain when we're already there and why would another tell us it has to be raining when the mural has lightning which is obviously a storm. It rains during storms.

[Zawaz132]

So if seems that the ocean floor has been the least explored, with the darkness and pressure and just overall inconvenience. But I'll be damned if there isn't more than a crashed UFO and the "hatch" somewhere in the water.

But so I've been exploring for a bit and came across another sort of hatch thing, with four lights on it, but couldn't make out if any sounds were coming from it. Interestingly enough, it's almost exactly at 500 feet, so I can't reach it without being killed.

If this has been addressed, then please let me know if anything important was discovered.

[twngr]

hi all,

 

just registered, feeling the new steam after the forum clean up, so i want to share a few things (btw.: im on 100% (on my way to 1000%), all three characters still alive (unfortuneately i killed ursula...), lost my space docker (…), no cheating or (intentional) glitching what so ever).

 

underwater "cave" (east shore) and "scuba easteregg":

 

as it has already been stated by now (unfortuneately) its not a cave. i discovered it yesterday, my heart almost stopped when seeing it and while going through thinking im on the way to some epic find, just to realise a few moments later that i just dove through some underwater rock... nevertheless let me tell you i already spent alot of time under water (with submarine and scuba gear), finding nearly all of the eastereggs (hatch, skeleton etc.) on my own. it seems i spent so much time under water that (almost) every time i change to michael he wears scuba gear. this happens for example when he plays tennis with amanda in a small cutscene wearing his scuba gear , or when i replay the first or second mission in the game and michael is sitting at his psychiatrist, he is wearing his scuba gear! this only happens with michael.

 

submarine in general:

first:

i always use the submarine trevor has stored in his backyard on his airport in sandy shores when i want to cargobob a submarine to a certain place (i am writing this because i get the impression that not many people are aware that trevor even has this at his aiport because i have not read anything about it on the internet so far. its so much easier to cargobob this sub than the one at the sonar dock station!).

second:

if you want to go deep with the sub, ignore the first warning! its that simple. if you go to 145 meters it will tell you that "the maximum depth is almost reached" (dont know the original english warning cause im playing the game in german), then you can still go to approximately 160 meters and it will tell you that "cabin stability is critical". just somewhere between 170 and almost 180 m your submarine will crash.

that said, i ve just started exploring the deepest places yesterday (after i found the "cave" i was talking about before) searching the line between absolute darkness and maximum depth. i started by the "cave" on the east shore, going to the south (had a glimpse at the submarine in the dock where you get the 4 star wanted level, hoping that it may be finished by now as i came here the last time when i didnt have 100%, but nope...) and had to stop searching after going all the way up to fort zancudo on the west coast. before i had to stop playing i investigated the area around where lago zancudo enters the ocean. this brings me to my next aspect i want to bring up, the uv map.

 

blueprint map and stuff we have not found (?):

as i said i was exploring the very dark area (u almost cannot see the sub anymore) where lago zancudo enters the ocean. (as a sidenote: there are more of those underwater locations that are not too deep but where u cannot see anything, and although it has already been mentioned before, im sure there are things left to be found in those areas cause everything that is hidden in there will take some time before being found. just saying…). i was trying to find out about the "x" that u can see on the blueprint map at this area. but i couldn't find anything until now (i found a very small wrecked boat there, but it was a little bit more to the north then the "x" on the map).

and honestly, this is not the first time i cannot find things that are marked on the blueprint map…for example: what about the "gruppe 6" markings? on ign it says that it will trigger a "gruppe 6" event. all i can say: nope…even if you look at the found/not found map on the socialclub map you wont find a security-van-event at those areas. as my post is getting much to long all i want to say: investigate the markings on the blueprint-map! u might say: whats the news about that? well, there are so many other things beside "shoot for the stars" (and some other permanently discussed things) from the uv-map that people are actually taking for granted but are far from being solved!

 

a few other things that i want to mention that bother me:

 

tree at mount chilliad:

i am not the kind of player to walk from tree to tree and listen if it says something (although i think its good some people at least try their theories opposed to just posting them and writing things like "has anyone tried…?")…but i discovered yesterday that if you stand at the hippie camp on the yellow marking (ufo and cloud) and look up to the top of mount chilliad with the (advanced) sniper rifle u will see a (big) tree. please look for yourself (not able to take pictures while looking through the sniperrifle), but u will know instantly which tree i mean (here is a close up photo i took after walking up there, its the big one in the middle: http://rsg.ms/1bkScka). actually you can do this from almost any position on the map (not only from the hippie camp) that provides a similar angle of view on the top of the mountain. its the only tree to pop up although the distance is really (too) big. it seems to be a glitch somehow but i think the tree kind of stands out and with so much talking about trees i thought i should mention this "find" (btw.: its not the tree where you find the tract during epsilon mission). i went to that tree, put some stickies on rocks and burned some bushes but nothing happened. just wanted to share this.

talking about trees: just an idea about the (not spinning) graphic found under mt. gordo: what about the "golden tree" (http://gtaforums.com/topic/603068-yellow-glowing-tree-easter-egg/) and also maybe the two small lakes at mount gordo? they may be significant for triggering any events there and may relate to the graphic (the location seems right for the golden tree).

 

weazel plaza:

already mentioned on reddit but i found it myself a few days ago and took photos: http://rsg.ms/1bkOiI6, http://rsg.ms/1bkO7MS, http://rsg.ms/1bkOcQC

i looked up fox plaza for myself (as its the realworld weazel plaza as was mentioned before) but the sculpture in the game is not from real life. and if you go there in game (the photos don't really show ) u will see how massive the sculpture is. heavy steel and stone, and the white thing in the middle that seems to be protected by the massive surrounding…i don't know it looks like an interesting place to investigate or at least keep in mind.

 

map from lesters apartement:

i was investigating the map from lesters apartment (http://rsg.ms/1bkPsDv). shows the area around the penris building, u can easily find it yourself. what interested me was the dotted line between the two marked (cross hatch) buildings. there would be manholes right on the pavement to get into the underground but they wont open. i went to the underground and couldn't find this certain tunnel.

 

full moon party (?):

http://rsg.ms/1bkPUS2

its not really full moon in the pic as you can see, but in this place there is a party almost every day (i think). i remember finding this place long before reading anything about full moon parties, but back then i thought this seems like a full moon party…idk

 

fib agents on the road to humane labs (http://rsg.ms/1bkQAXQ):

tried to interact, always ends in fist fight (if u dont use weapons), couldn't trigger anything although fighting them many times…but i found the green container with blood (http://rsg.ms/1bkQEqo , http://rsg.ms/1bkQLlQ , wasn't able to cargobob it…), and the not so obvious camera eye (http://rsg.ms/1bkQRdk).

 

cargobob:

unintentionally i discovered that u can lift some (smaller) rocks with the cargobob, but i am not sure if it was just a glitch, cause its very very hard to do it again…

 

very long post, sorry for that, but thanks if you read until here and hopefully i could contribute some things. ( i hope the links will work, otherwise ill edit the posting later and add them). have a nice hunt!

[AnEvilVet]

What I don't understand is why would one of the glyphs tell us to go to the top of the mountain when we're already there and why would another tell us it has to be raining when the mural has lightning which is obviously a storm. It rains during storms.

 

 

 

Because you're not at the top of the mountain when you see that glyph.

 

Because the lightning doesn't represent a condition, only the rain does. It can be raining without lightning and the UFO will appear. The bolts on the mural are just to highlight it and are just for decoration. You could go further and say they link in to the whole RKO studios logo which is the basis of the Soulwax logo and go from there but, from what I've seen, that's a dark path that leads to trying to decode morse code from the lights in a tunnel or the vines in the vineyard.

 

underwater "cave" (east shore) and "scuba easteregg":

 

it seems i spent so much time under water that (almost) every time i change to michael he wears scuba gear.

 

Characters will spawn in the clothing they were last in. So if you switch from Michael when he is in his scuba gear and then switch back to him, he will still be wearing it.

 

 

blueprint map and stuff we have not found (?):

i was trying to find out about the "x" that u can see on the blueprint map at this area. but i couldn't find anything until now (i found a very small wrecked boat there, but it was a little bit more to the north then the "x" on the map).

and honestly, this is not the first time i cannot find things that are marked on the blueprint map…for example: what about the "gruppe 6" markings? on ign it says that it will trigger a "gruppe 6" event. all i can say: nope…even if you look at the found/not found map on the socialclub map you wont find a security-van-event at those areas. as my post is getting much to long all i want to say: investigate the markings on the blueprint-map! u might say: whats the news about that? well, there are so many other things beside "shoot for the stars" (and some other permanently discussed things) from the uv-map that people are actually taking for granted but are far from being solved!

 

The Xes are submarine parts so will only spawn when you have that mission active. The Gruppesechs marks show where Security Van random events occur, but these only appear at certain times of day.

 

 

tree at mount chilliad:

 

The tree will show from most locations. It has no significance that anyone has found. It's likely just there for decoration.

 

weazel plaza:

 

There are a number of scultpures around the city but it's likely they are all for decoration.

 

 

 

full moon party (?):

That's the Playboy Mansion. The full moon party would take place in the desert. Parties do sometimes take place in weird locations. I saw one on a small field in the Lago Zancudo area where a stripper was dancing for a group of men.

 

 

 

 

I answered inline with these and tried to make them stand out for you. Some good points raised!

[Druminator]

So I guess the mural is solved then. UFO = Sandy Shores, Egg = Sunken and Jetpack = FZ?

[Uncle Cletus]

maybe the mural on mt chiliad means something. has anyone looked into that? it might have something to do with a secret. also i think the glyphs have a secret meaning. has anyone thought of that yet. i know we're only 500 odd pages in now but i think it might have been overlooked. can someone please quote me and reply with a line of text. we need to make progress.

[Uncle Cletus]

forget it. Druminator has solved it single handed.

 

can we please close the thread now. mystery solved

Edited November 26, 2013 by Uncle Cletus

[AnEvilVet]

So I guess the mural is solved then. UFO = Sandy Shores, Egg = Sunken and Jetpack = FZ?

 

In my opinion, yes. But everyone has their own beliefs and that's cool.

 

 

maybe the mural on mt chiliad means something. has anyone looked into that? it might have something to do with a secret. also i think the glyphs have a secret meaning. has anyone thought of that yet. i know we're only 500 odd pages in now but i think it might have been overlooked. can someone please quote me and reply with a line of text. we need to make progress.

 

I'm not sure, have you honked the Cargobob at it?

[Uncle Cletus]

i did crash a motorbike into a prostitute while thinking about the cargobob.

 

no result though.

[ukb90]

i did crash a motorbike into a prostitute while thinking about the cargobob.

 

no result though.

i did the same thing but at 4.44 am whilst reversing and the jetpack fell out of the mural

[robosonic]

has anyone seen the UFO above mt. chiliad at 03.00 am in a stormy wheater? just saw a youtube video of it the first time some minutes ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!