Decoding the Mount Chiliad Mural

[themutedtrumpet]

 

Quote- stangone50: "you can follow it down the mountain and even push it around ."

 

 

Nope... you can follow it down... I suck, my character keeps falling down and by the time his dumb ass stops rolling, I have lost it...

but I only tried twice... or maybe three times... I actually did find a pig farm because of it and I did follow a loose pig around for a while... it was late and I was curious if the pig knew something I didn't.

I may have also been a bit drunk.

I just found out about the ball and bell experiment today when I googled stuff about Galileo... I don't actually think it is relevant, but I was wondering if the ball ends up somewhere that may be of interest.

 

 

 

The ball from the juice stand will go pretty much anyway you push it, it doesn't follow the same path every time. You can just nudge it off with a helicopter then it's easy to follow. The one near the observatory sometimes veers off the edge to the left, sometimes carries on down the hill, but will just stop where the physics dictates. Seems unlikely it's leading you to anything.

[StangOne50]

 

Quote- stangone50: "you can follow it down the mountain and even push it around ."

 

 

Nope... you can follow it down... I suck, my character keeps falling down and by the time his dumb ass stops rolling, I have lost it...

but I only tried twice... or maybe three times... I actually did find a pig farm because of it and I did follow a loose pig around for a while... it was late and I was curious if the pig knew something I didn't.

I may have also been a bit drunk.

I just found out about the ball and bell experiment today when I googled stuff about Galileo... I don't actually think it is relevant, but I was wondering if the ball ends up somewhere that may be of interest.

 

I did not follow it on foot . I hit it with my heli then followed it till it stopped got out the heli and pushed it around

[McGyver55]

I guess I just pushed it the same way each time... I suppose I was aiming for off the cliff... I didn't think it would really be of any use...

Still think the Observatory and the sculpture are important though...

I really didn't think the pig was going to tell me anything... I just came across it wandering on the hillside... I followed it for about 10 or 15 minute and then after I accidentally caused it to fall to its death I realized I was up way too late because I was following pigs around the back woods...

Nothing good ever comes from that.

Edited October 13, 2013 by McGyver55

[.Lb]

Also, I've tried the explosive melee cheat and swimming down to the hatch quickly and hitting it, the explosions do not occur.
I do remember that if you shoot a missile from a heli/jet into the water it does explode at or near the bottom.
I doubt we would see a change to the hatch due to render distance, but this seems to be the only way to get an explosion underwater.

I think we can dismiss blowing the hatch.

[Grumbledore]

Even though the hatch is a good distance from Chiliad, who know if it leads to a long labyrinth of tunnels to Chiliad.

 

Stupid question:

 

1. Can sticky bombs be detonated underwater?

2. If yes, have we tossed one/some on to the hatch?

 

I can't imagine that hatch is just there, but maybe it is. It would certainly make a compelling puzzle solution to a "Hatching" egg.

1. yes they can

2. they fall through the hatch

 

 

I do agree everything else in this post, except this part. There is a very big "clue" to find this. If you find all the collectables (in this case, the nuclear waste and submarine parts) there are few very close to that ufo. So if you get them all you just simply cant miss the ufo.

as for myself i didnt saw it so it can happen that it can be missed ^^

 

 

I read your post thoroughly (if it's the one I think you're referring to) and yes, it seems like a very logical idea that there is some sort of colour code to them. But what were you expecting people to reply with? We know the glyphs are all different colours, but I imagine if someone made something of that they would have shared with us. If you can expand on this theory then I am all ears...

if i find a new glyph i will hit you up

[ClaireFarron89]

So many creative ideas in this thread, that's awesome. I think the Myth, that has been created by the mural, has led us to an extensive journey through the world of San Andreas.

Since there hasn't been found anything yet, I made up an idea, that CJ must have been the last one in San Andreas, who owned it. Maybe he got caught by some Epsilons or Altruists, who took it away from him. I doubt, that the Jetpack is in property of the gouvernment.

I know, this is just some thinking about some kinda Prequel, but it could give us some information about what happened to CJ.There haven't been a lot of references to this yet. Maybe this could lead us to a solution of the puzzle or maybe we will get further information after finding the Jetpack. This treasure hunt reveals us the true ingenuity, which R* implemented in this game!

[ThatPotatoGuy]

just checking:stickybombing the all Xs on mt chilliad(not the mural) at the same time does nothing,right?

[GrndZero]

There is another ball also in Sandy Shores.

You can shoot the post holding it and let it free fall. I was easily able to follow it with a car.

[themutedtrumpet]

So many creative ideas in this thread, that's awesome. I think the Myth, that has been created by the mural, has led us to an extensive journey through the world of San Andreas.

Since there hasn't been found anything yet, I made up an idea, that CJ must have been the last one in San Andreas, who owned it. Maybe he got caught by some Epsilons or Altruists, who took it away from him. I doubt, that the Jetpack is in property of the gouvernment.

I know, this is just some thinking about some kinda Prequel, but it could give us some information about what happened to CJ.There haven't been a lot of references to this yet. Maybe this could lead us to a solution of the puzzle or maybe we will get further information after finding the Jetpack. This treasure hunt reveals us the true ingenuity, which R* implemented in this game!

 

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/10/12/nycc-will-the-gta-5-dlc-feature-san-andreas-cj

 

Let's hope we don't have to wait for this to solve the mural

[baboonatic]

Hi there, firstly i'll say i'm not 100% in the game and also my finding is probably just a glitch and of no relevance but, I haven't seen anyone else mention throughout the thread so thought it is worth a mention. There was a whole "shooting the stars" thing being banded about out threads a while ago and while i was exploring around the the cable car station there is a bar/cafe atattched to the front which has two neon signs (one on each of the longer sides of the building) with two crossed guns and a star i shot both of these stars and all the black texture dissapeared revealing a kind of warehousey exterior. I tried again a second time later on and it didn't happen again so as i said probably just a glitch. Just thought i'd put it out there though if any 100%ers wanted to give it a try.

 

PS. sod the jet pack i'm in this for the for the fire breathng dinosaur with a saddle

[AnEvilVet]

I would love it if someone with a lot more tine than I had plotted two things on a map. One, the location of all radio masts in the game, such as on the top of Vinewood Hill, at the Altruists camp, etc. We know MIBs show up at one tower, which others do they turn up at? Personally, I believe that this is a reference to NSA wiretapping.

 

Two, the location of each satellite dish and the direction it's facing. We know that the radio telescope as well as the dish at the Altruist camp face the fort. Where else do they point? If all the lines were plotted on the same map, where would they triangulate to?

[XMarqstheSpot]

Just going to put thi out there.

 

I see people are making assumptions and interpereting what the "Jetpack", "Egg: and "UFO" at the bottom of the Chiliad mural. Like the Jetpack represents the Army base OR Trevor because he's explosive, or some bonkers stuff like that.

 

My questions to them would be, can you find ANY other symbols in this game or a previous R* game that didn't exactly represent what it stood for?

 

Ammu-Nation - Gun

Triathalon - Running Man

Parachuting - Parachute

Clothes Store - Shirt

 

Etc, etc.

 

Los Santos Customs and the spray can is the only thing that doesn't tell you exactly what it is that you can do there(although a spray can works just fine because you can paint your car)

 

 

They don't misinform with their symbols and the meanings behind them, IMHO.

 

If they show a small UFO then there is going to be a small UFO(we already found it, driveable or not)

 

If they show a Jetpack then it represents a Jetpack(doesn't mean we get to fly one but, it represents one for sure, IMHO)

[AnEvilVet]

Just going to put thi out there.

 

I see people are making assumptions and interpereting what the "Jetpack", "Egg: and "UFO" at the bottom of the Chiliad mural. Like the Jetpack represents the Army base OR Trevor because he's explosive, or some bonkers stuff like that.

 

My questions to them would be, can you find ANY other symbols in this game or a previous R* game that didn't exactly represent what it stood for?

 

Ammu-Nation - Gun

Triathalon - Running Man

Parachuting - Parachute

Clothes Store - Shirt

 

Etc, etc.

 

Los Santos Customs and the spray can is the only thing that doesn't tell you exactly what it is that you can do there(although a spray can works just fine because you can paint your car)

 

 

They don't misinform with their symbols and the meanings behind them, IMHO.

 

If they show a small UFO then there is going to be a small UFO(we already found it, driveable or not)

 

If they show a Jetpack then it represents a Jetpack(doesn't mean we get to fly one but, it represents one for sure, IMHO)

My question to you is how many GTA games have had a mural in a cable car on a mountain that has glyphs painted on it, ie symbols that 'represent' something, not explicitly stating what that thing is.

Edited October 13, 2013 by AnEvilVet

[Benjamoose]

And someone without prior knowledge of a jetpack being used as a vehicle in GTA SA would have no cause to assume it stands for a flying jetpack being available in GTAV.

 

If you approach this without this prior knowledge it's safe to assume you would tie a jetpack symbol to the military. If you have the prior knowledge then you know where it was found.

 

And I highly doubt age is a factor here unless we literally have 12 year olds in this thread. After all, you legally needed to be 18 to be sold a copy of GTA SA in the UK.

That's sort of my point. If you had no prior knowledge, assuming a jetpack symbol was supposed to reference the military is as ThatPotatoGuy said "a logical leap".

 

Why not a picture of a tank or a man with a gun? Why pick something infamous from the previous iteration of San Andreas.

 

San Andreas came out in 2004. That means, that even if you were 20 now, you'd be about 10-11 years old.

 

So I was basically saying that a puzzle relying on people's San Andreas knowledge would be silly, and without that knowledge, I wouldn't personally assume a jetpack was supposed to be referencing the military.

 

I don't think the jetpack represents just the ufo in the military base.It's a logical leap.Let's not get carried away.

 

Imo the reddit theory makes no sense at all.Why put so much effort in something so underwhelming.If they show you a jetpack on the mural you don't assume that they mean something else just because you think it represents something from a previous gta.That's not..logical..you make a logical leap with high % of being wrong.

Well put Mr. Potato!

 

Everyone has to remember that one of GTA SAN ANDREAS's biggest Easter Eggs/Secrets was only unravelled 2 years ago, and about 6-7 years after the game itself came out, I don't remember what secret it was, but Im sure about it

Indeed. This is why I mentioned contacting Rockstar with the proposed solution when it was posted. When the group heavily into San Andreas thought they'd found all the secrets, they contacted Rockstar and asked if they had found everything. Just so that they would know that they didn't need to keep looking for something that didn't exist.

 

Rockstar contacted them back saying there was nothing more to be found.

 

1. It makes ZERO sense to put the Jetpack in a cryptic GTA version of CIA's "Kryptos" only for it not to be in the game.

 

2. The negative press associated with adding a direct teaser/hint to the Jetpack only for it not to be in the game would be too great. The Jetpack was liked by most in San Andreas, R* wouldn't allude, refer, suggest to it being in GTA V only for it not to be.

 

3. Could it be a teaser? Yes. But why? It certainly isn't a technical challenge to add it to the game (with that said, it's no cakewalk either as all GTA vehicles have semi accurate physics characteristics, the crop duster handles differently than other prop planes, etc). Since San Andreas had the Jetpack, it makes perfect sense it would be in GTA V.

 

I think we have collected A TON of in-game clues that need to be parsed. I also think that since R* enjoys screwing with us in their typical humorous ways, it's not unreasonable to conclude that the Jetpack may indeed be "unlocked" in the future.

I agree Mr. ProxyGeek.

 

I mean perhaps there is no jetpack currently in the files. Or perhaps it's hinting at something bigger, something DLC based or so on.

 

But the current proposed solution certainly seems underwhelming for the amount of cryptic content they included that connect to one another.

[Benjamoose]

My question to you is how many GTA games have had a mural in a cable car on a mountain that has glyphs painted on it, ie symbols that 'represent' something, not explicitly stating what that thing is.

 

You're correct sir.

 

However I think he's hinting at obvious subtlety.

 

They know their audience, and while they wish to be cryptic, they wont be creating anything that require leaps of faith or anything that'd be overly complex on reflection.

 

They will most definitely be employing obvious subtlety in their puzzle.

Edited October 13, 2013 by Benjamoose

[pedroc1999]

So many creative ideas in this thread, that's awesome. I think the Myth, that has been created by the mural, has led us to an extensive journey through the world of San Andreas.

Since there hasn't been found anything yet, I made up an idea, that CJ must have been the last one in San Andreas, who owned it. Maybe he got caught by some Epsilons or Altruists, who took it away from him. I doubt, that the Jetpack is in property of the gouvernment.

I know, this is just some thinking about some kinda Prequel, but it could give us some information about what happened to CJ.There haven't been a lot of references to this yet. Maybe this could lead us to a solution of the puzzle or maybe we will get further information after finding the Jetpack. This treasure hunt reveals us the true ingenuity, which R* implemented in this game!

 

 

You can see CJ, Big Smoke (Dead) and Ryder (Dead) on the first mission, while your driving into Grove Street, their driving out on their bikes, wearing their green colours, you can follow them if you wish, but they just circle the block

[Benjamoose]

So many creative ideas in this thread, that's awesome. I think the Myth, that has been created by the mural, has led us to an extensive journey through the world of San Andreas.

Since there hasn't been found anything yet, I made up an idea, that CJ must have been the last one in San Andreas, who owned it. Maybe he got caught by some Epsilons or Altruists, who took it away from him. I doubt, that the Jetpack is in property of the gouvernment.

I know, this is just some thinking about some kinda Prequel, but it could give us some information about what happened to CJ.There haven't been a lot of references to this yet. Maybe this could lead us to a solution of the puzzle or maybe we will get further information after finding the Jetpack. This treasure hunt reveals us the true ingenuity, which R* implemented in this game!

 

Rockstar has stated that the GTA games from Grand Theft Auto IV onwards take place in an alternate timeline of events.

 

It doesn't mean that characters or references to the old games can't happen of course. They mainly did it so that can take liberties with locations and storylines without having to rely on past events in the same locations.

 

But they have explicitly stated that apart from subtle references, no previous GTA protagonists from the original series of games will return properly.

Edited October 13, 2013 by Benjamoose

[AnEvilVet]

 

 

And someone without prior knowledge of a jetpack being used as a vehicle in GTA SA would have no cause to assume it stands for a flying jetpack being available in GTAV.

 

If you approach this without this prior knowledge it's safe to assume you would tie a jetpack symbol to the military. If you have the prior knowledge then you know where it was found.

 

And I highly doubt age is a factor here unless we literally have 12 year olds in this thread. After all, you legally needed to be 18 to be sold a copy of GTA SA in the UK.

That's sort of my point. If you had no prior knowledge, assuming a jetpack symbol was supposed to reference the military is as ThatPotatoGuy said "a logical leap".

 

Why not a picture of a tank or a man with a gun? Why pick something infamous from the previous iteration of San Andreas.

 

San Andreas came out in 2004. That means, that even if you were 20 now, you'd be about 10-11 years old.

 

So I was basically saying that a puzzle relying on people's San Andreas knowledge would be silly, and without that knowledge, I wouldn't personally assume a jetpack was supposed to be referencing the military.

 

You wouldn't because you had that prior knowledge. It is natural when disavowing prior knowledge to assume that the opposite stance would be taken, but that isn't the case.

 

Without knowledge of what a jetpack is, you cannot understand this sign. However, recognising the shape entails recognising the object, an experimental form of flight, where footage of such tests take place in airfields such as at the Fort. Also, recent media have shown personal flight devices as having militaristic trials, eg Spider-Man.

 

I'd be happy to be disproven on this but it ties in too well to not be the obvious and therefore accepted truth.

[XMarqstheSpot]

 

Just going to put thi out there.

 

I see people are making assumptions and interpereting what the "Jetpack", "Egg: and "UFO" at the bottom of the Chiliad mural. Like the Jetpack represents the Army base OR Trevor because he's explosive, or some bonkers stuff like that.

 

My questions to them would be, can you find ANY other symbols in this game or a previous R* game that didn't exactly represent what it stood for?

 

Ammu-Nation - Gun

Triathalon - Running Man

Parachuting - Parachute

Clothes Store - Shirt

 

Etc, etc.

 

Los Santos Customs and the spray can is the only thing that doesn't tell you exactly what it is that you can do there(although a spray can works just fine because you can paint your car)

 

 

They don't misinform with their symbols and the meanings behind them, IMHO.

 

If they show a small UFO then there is going to be a small UFO(we already found it, driveable or not)

 

If they show a Jetpack then it represents a Jetpack(doesn't mean we get to fly one but, it represents one for sure, IMHO)

My question to you is how many GTA games have had a mural in a cable car on a mountain that has glyphs painted on it, ie symbols that 'represent' something, not explicitly stating what that thing is.

 

Obviously none but, even in past games the easter eggs were exactly how R* represented them in the clues IIRC, i can't think of one time they showed something as a clue that represented something else.

[AnEvilVet]

 

 

My question to you is how many GTA games have had a mural in a cable car on a mountain that has glyphs painted on it, ie symbols that 'represent' something, not explicitly stating what that thing is.

 

You're correct sir.

 

However I think he's hinting at obvious subtlety.

 

They know their audience, and while they wish to be cryptic, they wont be creating anything that require leaps of faith or anything that'd be overly complex on reflection.

 

They will most definitely be employing obvious subtlety in their puzzle.

Yes, such as an experimental form of flight linking to an experimental stealth craft.

[AnEvilVet]

 

 

 

Just going to put thi out there.

 

I see people are making assumptions and interpereting what the "Jetpack", "Egg: and "UFO" at the bottom of the Chiliad mural. Like the Jetpack represents the Army base OR Trevor because he's explosive, or some bonkers stuff like that.

 

My questions to them would be, can you find ANY other symbols in this game or a previous R* game that didn't exactly represent what it stood for?

 

Ammu-Nation - Gun

Triathalon - Running Man

Parachuting - Parachute

Clothes Store - Shirt

 

Etc, etc.

 

Los Santos Customs and the spray can is the only thing that doesn't tell you exactly what it is that you can do there(although a spray can works just fine because you can paint your car)

 

 

They don't misinform with their symbols and the meanings behind them, IMHO.

 

If they show a small UFO then there is going to be a small UFO(we already found it, driveable or not)

 

If they show a Jetpack then it represents a Jetpack(doesn't mean we get to fly one but, it represents one for sure, IMHO)

My question to you is how many GTA games have had a mural in a cable car on a mountain that has glyphs painted on it, ie symbols that 'represent' something, not explicitly stating what that thing is.

 

Obviously none but, even in past games the easter eggs were exactly how R* represented them in the clues IIRC, i can't think of one time they showed something as a clue that represented something else.

Like when they used the symbol of an eye above a mountain to represent a UFO?

[XMarqstheSpot]

 

So many creative ideas in this thread, that's awesome. I think the Myth, that has been created by the mural, has led us to an extensive journey through the world of San Andreas.

Since there hasn't been found anything yet, I made up an idea, that CJ must have been the last one in San Andreas, who owned it. Maybe he got caught by some Epsilons or Altruists, who took it away from him. I doubt, that the Jetpack is in property of the gouvernment.

I know, this is just some thinking about some kinda Prequel, but it could give us some information about what happened to CJ.There haven't been a lot of references to this yet. Maybe this could lead us to a solution of the puzzle or maybe we will get further information after finding the Jetpack. This treasure hunt reveals us the true ingenuity, which R* implemented in this game!

 

Rockstar has stated that the GTA games from Grand Theft Auto IV onwards take place in an alternate timeline of events.

 

It doesn't mean that characters or references to the old games can't happen of course. They mainly did it so that can take liberties with locations and storylines without having to rely on past events in the same locations.

 

But they have explicitly stated that apart from subtle references, no previous GTA protagonists from the original series of games will return properly.

 

The Benz, Creative Director for GTAV said "No, Packie will NOT be in this game."

 

Then Packie shows up...

[Grumbledore]

 

 

My question to you is how many GTA games have had a mural in a cable car on a mountain that has glyphs painted on it, ie symbols that 'represent' something, not explicitly stating what that thing is.

You're correct sir.

 

However I think he's hinting at obvious subtlety.

 

They know their audience, and while they wish to be cryptic, they wont be creating anything that require leaps of faith or anything that'd be overly complex on reflection.

 

They will most definitely be employing obvious subtlety in their puzzle.

 

Yes, such as an experimental form of flight linking to an experimental stealth craft.

 

that's one reason i made this big post a few pages back. the whole theory stuff got more complicated then it is. people made connections because they saw stuff out side of the game (like the other ufos) but the chance to see them inside the game is really slim. all this stuff sidetracks people and is misleading everyone.

 

like the stuff with the hatch. damn it where is no fcking connection between the hatch and the mural. except the something hatches out of the egg. but the egg is only cracked nothing more nothing less. there is no sign that something would actually hatch out of it...

[XMarqstheSpot]

 

 

 

Just going to put thi out there.

 

I see people are making assumptions and interpereting what the "Jetpack", "Egg: and "UFO" at the bottom of the Chiliad mural. Like the Jetpack represents the Army base OR Trevor because he's explosive, or some bonkers stuff like that.

 

My questions to them would be, can you find ANY other symbols in this game or a previous R* game that didn't exactly represent what it stood for?

 

Ammu-Nation - Gun

Triathalon - Running Man

Parachuting - Parachute

Clothes Store - Shirt

 

Etc, etc.

 

Los Santos Customs and the spray can is the only thing that doesn't tell you exactly what it is that you can do there(although a spray can works just fine because you can paint your car)

 

 

They don't misinform with their symbols and the meanings behind them, IMHO.

 

If they show a small UFO then there is going to be a small UFO(we already found it, driveable or not)

 

If they show a Jetpack then it represents a Jetpack(doesn't mean we get to fly one but, it represents one for sure, IMHO)

My question to you is how many GTA games have had a mural in a cable car on a mountain that has glyphs painted on it, ie symbols that 'represent' something, not explicitly stating what that thing is.

 

Obviously none but, even in past games the easter eggs were exactly how R* represented them in the clues IIRC, i can't think of one time they showed something as a clue that represented something else.

Like when they used the symbol of an eye above a mountain to represent a UFO?

 

And that tells you EXACTLY what the "Eye" represents, you didn't have to make strange connections. Go to the top of the mountain, see the UFO, obviously they EYE symbols are UFO's.

 

They left a clue, you followed it and foun out what it was, you didnt have to "Interperet" or do any guess work, they showed you what it means, very deliberately.

 

ALSO, they EYE looks like a UFO, they didn't draw a Walrus on top of the mountain to represent a UFO, they drew a UFO on top of the mountain, some see an EYE, i immediately saw a UFO before thinking it was an EYE.

[XMarqstheSpot]

Yes, such as an experimental form of flight linking to an experimental stealth craft.

 

Where are you getting "Experimental" from?

 

I don't see anything on the Mural that would lead me to the word "Experimental" or anything on the UFO's that lead me to the wrod "Experimental".

 

That's a connection YOU are making on your own(which isn't a bad thing) but R* isn't saying "Experimental" anywhere that i see, so that connection doesn't seem to fit.

 

I get what your saying but, that's a stretch IMHO.

[Farkle]

A lot of sense spoken there McGyver55. I actually came across that orange ball last night and knocked it off. I too lost it as it roll down the mountain but if you had a bike I reckon you could keep up with it. Be interesting to see if it takes the same path down every time.

Nudge it with a chopper, and track it by air?

[AnEvilVet]

 

 

 

 

 

Just going to put thi out there.

 

I see people are making assumptions and interpereting what the "Jetpack", "Egg: and "UFO" at the bottom of the Chiliad mural. Like the Jetpack represents the Army base OR Trevor because he's explosive, or some bonkers stuff like that.

 

My questions to them would be, can you find ANY other symbols in this game or a previous R* game that didn't exactly represent what it stood for?

 

Ammu-Nation - Gun

Triathalon - Running Man

Parachuting - Parachute

Clothes Store - Shirt

 

Etc, etc.

 

Los Santos Customs and the spray can is the only thing that doesn't tell you exactly what it is that you can do there(although a spray can works just fine because you can paint your car)

 

 

They don't misinform with their symbols and the meanings behind them, IMHO.

 

If they show a small UFO then there is going to be a small UFO(we already found it, driveable or not)

 

If they show a Jetpack then it represents a Jetpack(doesn't mean we get to fly one but, it represents one for sure, IMHO)

My question to you is how many GTA games have had a mural in a cable car on a mountain that has glyphs painted on it, ie symbols that 'represent' something, not explicitly stating what that thing is.

 

Obviously none but, even in past games the easter eggs were exactly how R* represented them in the clues IIRC, i can't think of one time they showed something as a clue that represented something else.

Like when they used the symbol of an eye above a mountain to represent a UFO?

 

And that tells you EXACTLY what the "Eye" represents, you didn't have to make strange connections. Go to the top of the mountain, see the UFO, obviously they EYE symbols are UFO's.

 

They left a clue, you followed it and foun out what it was, you didnt have to "Interperet" or do any guess work, they showed you what it means, very deliberately.

 

ALSO, they EYE looks like a UFO, they didn't draw a Walrus on top of the mountain to represent a UFO, they drew a UFO on top of the mountain, some see an EYE, i immediately saw a UFO before thinking it was an EYE.

So you admit you interpreted a symbol in a particuar manner? Both my partner and I interpreted the jetpack in different ways. I have a huge amount of experience with GTA SA after cowriting the original easter egg guide for the game for this forum.

My partner has never played a GTA game. We both thought of the Fort.

[Benjamoose]

And that tells you EXACTLY what the "Eye" represents, you didn't have to make strange connections. Go to the top of the mountain, see the UFO, obviously they EYE symbols are UFO's.

 

They left a clue, you followed it and foun out what it was, you didnt have to "Interperet" or do any guess work, they showed you what it means, very deliberately.

 

ALSO, they EYE looks like a UFO, they didn't draw a Walrus on top of the mountain to represent a UFO, they drew a UFO on top of the mountain, some see an EYE, i immediately saw a UFO before thinking it was an EYE.

 

Exactly.

 

You wouldn't because you had that prior knowledge. It is natural when disavowing prior knowledge to assume that the opposite stance would be taken, but that isn't the case.

Without knowledge of what a jetpack is, you cannot understand this sign. However, recognising the shape entails recognising the object, an experimental form of flight, where footage of such tests take place in airfields such as at the Fort. Also, recent media have shown personal flight devices as having militaristic trials, eg Spider-Man.

 

I'd be happy to be disproven on this but it ties in too well to not be the obvious and therefore accepted truth.

 

I disagree that it's that obvious. Even if somehow you assume that the jetpack was supposed to represent flying above the military base;

 

Why not draw a stickman with a gun? It'd be vague enough in a game about shooting, but would be enough to make sense when linked to the base.

 

Why pick something that represents one of the coolest and most interesting unlockable items from the previous iteration of San Andreas state?

 

Assuming prior knowledge it disappoints. Without prior knowledge it requires a logical leap.

 

When people think of jetpacks, they don't think of recent events or experiments in the army. They think of James Bond and Spy movies.

 

They think of things like the Jetsons with futuristic travel, etc etc.

 

Tons of things would come to my mind as the symbols purpose (especially thanks to Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas) before linking it directly to the military and assuming "Well! That's the puzzle done.".

 

It just doesn't add up to me.

Edited October 13, 2013 by Benjamoose

[AnEvilVet]

 

 

Yes, such as an experimental form of flight linking to an experimental stealth craft.

 

Where are you getting "Experimental" from?

 

I don't see anything on the Mural that would lead me to the word "Experimental" or anything on the UFO's that lead me to the wrod "Experimental".

 

That's a connection YOU are making on your own(which isn't a bad thing) but R* isn't saying "Experimental" anywhere that i see, so that connection doesn't seem to fit.

 

I get what your saying but, that's a stretch IMHO.

Jetpacks aren't real but were experimented with. UFO designs with fan blades were also experimented with IRL. Plus its above an airbase and has english writing on it which shows it isn't alien.

[Benjamoose]

So you admit you interpreted a symbol in a particuar manner? Both my partner and I interpreted the jetpack in different ways. I have a huge amount of experience with GTA SA after cowriting the original easter egg guide for the game for this forum.

My partner has never played a GTA game. We both thought of the Fort.

 

Yes but it's your partner. They know you intimately. I'm sure given your large interest in the Grand Theft Auto series and the fact that you've posted several guides and threads and so forth would mean that your partner has some basic knowledge of the original jetpack.

 

No doubt you own the games and have played them either in front of said person or with them too.

 

For a game to use a jetpack symbol. A symbol representing something they KNOW we would want to use given it was in San Andreas. Something they would know fans of the original would recognize and think "hey that's likely hidden underground", it seems silly to just assume that's all it was there for.

 

Even if you assume no prior knowledge, it's still a vague jump for a ton of people.

Edited October 13, 2013 by Benjamoose