Decoding the Mount Chiliad Mural

[MrEZmoneymaker]

 

 

 

how am i supposed to believe anything you say when you post lies like this? at least follow through with what you said you were going to do.

 

because u dont own the forum!! you dont need my help because you are another know it all who after how long on here has yet to find anything to find it! others have helped me & thats who id rather help so i would rather stay so you can see when we all solve it without you

[chilleverest]

 

In the nicest possible way, you're using the word troll incorrectly and you are also incorrectly assuming that people like myself have contributed nothing when we have contributed more concrete and factual evidence of things than you have.

 

Look at my topic history for proof.

 

What's happening is that people like myself who have been here since day one with this have run out of things to find or have made their own minds up about the meaning of the mural.

 

Please read this thread from post 1 as well as Reddit and you'll see all of your theories have been tried to no avail.

 

I partly agree with evilvet about us having no lead to follow at all, ive seen you and many others here since day one of this hunt and at this point around ive seen some solid guys leave the hunt simply because the trail has gone cold. Ive seen folks come around posting same stuffs again and again (which really frustrates me TBH), intentional trolls about alien abductions, and gullible people falling for it (which is even more frustrating).

But i dont think we (you and few other who i know are genuine contributors) should be so blatant about the chase leading nowhere specially when you indulge your time mostly in singleplayer. The thread has gone to a point where things are seen repeated, and trolls being successful at trolling, but there are few others working on the matter and bringing in great details of Los Santos. And for me its the beauty of it. I don't see the reason to demoralise these energetic folks in their hunt.

 

 

Edit: Typo.

Edited November 8, 2013 by chilleverest

[stockburner]

 

The map uses text and symbols to show where collectibles are. Take Control just shows the location of the minigun.

The plane descriptions are there as Trevor has a history of military flight and he wrote the map.

GruppeSechs is the location of security vans.

 

 

I agree with you about the control tower and minigun.

 

ALSO...

 

I haven't seen any other person state this interpretation about these words,

 

"If you want to see an angel, you have to find it where it fell"

 

"If you want to get to heaven, you have to raise a little hell"...

 

But when i first read them, "raise a little hell" made me immediately believe they mean, raise the little helicopter sitting on the base straight up and you'll see the Zancudo UFO.

 

Everyone has agreed the angel part is the sunken UFO, but so many people are thinking of raising hell to mean cause trouble, but I took it to mean that you raise up in a HELICOPTER...

 

I feel fairly confident that the helicopter is the meaning of that verse...

Edited November 8, 2013 by stockburner

[Scoobysrt]

The main problem see on this forum, Is that not everyone reads previous posts, leading to either arguments or the clues not being following up,

 

I posted a thread from reddit yesterday, that is a clue to the markings on the car bonnet at the Sandy shore chiliad model,

 

completely ignored!

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/comments/1q4die/my_hippie_code_cork_board/

 

http://imgur.com/triVV4L

Your reditt link shows replies to a post but i cant view the original post they refer to so not ignored just nothing to see.

 

Your imgur link doesn't work on my iphone so again not ignored but rather nothing to see.

 

I would like to read and see it if its a new idea but i cant.

 

Many many people such as myself who have been here since the start of the thread no longer post but often still read.

Its the silent ones you are catering for now, most of the vocal ones left are just ....................(stuff it, whats the point, no-one is reading this anyway).

[agonistes06]

a couple points, and i'll get our of your collective way:

 

the guy who says he almost got abducted might be completely believable. i saw a post on reddit about a guy seeing one of the 'illegal aliens' from a strangers n freaks mission get abducted, and like this poster here, was concerned with the mission but thought it odd. of course in my case i'd be screaming for my girlfriend to get the camera, because i would be more excited to see a ufo in-game at this point chasing me than in real life, just about. ive also seen mention of a third guy who might have seen an abduction. sooooo, don't rule it out? it seems pretty rare if it happens but both accounts i have seen were in sandy shores and played as trevor. also i can ignore one account, two is harder, but a rumored three accounts is easier to half-believe, or at least be ready to see if it kills you or actually is a game-changer.

 

the map line drawings: in the second drawing you posted before all the bitching, i believe you have 'two' and 'three' in arbitrary places, unless you were using the map topographically i think that this lineup won't work, and if you ARE using the map in 3-d, the parts at the bottom would not wrap as fully as the parts that lay on the mountain itself, because the mountain spreads into flat at the bottom, so would the mural overlay. this is part of the reason that i think an overlay in the first place is really going a little far. usually the game gives you all you need to solve things without photoshop. i mean, we're not playing myst.

 

 

guy who is shooting the chicken, trying for a truck.....the guy who originally posted that, i could almost swear he said he was shooting the egg shape on the side of the building, not the chicken. i am not going to find you the post though, in all this (i just don't have the stomach for it), but that's what i remember. i'll try to remember to test it myself later.

 

thank you for your time.

[Scoobysrt]

Raising hell is a very very common saying referring to causing trouble hence why most people see it as that.

[Scoobysrt]

guy who is shooting the chicken, trying for a truck.....the guy who originally posted that, i could almost swear he said he was shooting the egg shape on the side of the building, not the chicken. i am not going to find you the post though, in all this (i just don't have the stomach for it), but that's what i remember. i'll try to remember to test it myself later.

 

thank you for your time.

No, thankyou for your time.

I mentioned the cone, i am more than happy to say if im mistaken and will go and try the egg shape on the wall. I was sure everyone said the cone but I'm only human and often get things wrong.

I will post back my results. Thankyou for your reply.

[defenestration]

 

I agree with you about the control tower and minigun.

 

ALSO...

 

I haven't seen any other person state this interpretation about these words,

 

"If you want to see an angel, you have to find it where it fell"

 

"If you want to get to heaven, you have to raise a little hell"...

 

But when i first read them, "raise a little hell" made me immediately believe they mean, raise the little helicopter sitting on the base straight up and you'll see the Zancudo UFO.

 

Everyone has agreed the angel part is the sunken UFO, but so many people are thinking of raising hell to mean cause trouble, but I took it to mean that you raise up in a HELICOPTER...

 

I feel fairly confident that the helicopter is the meaning of that verse...

 

 

Do you have a reason as to why you are dissecting a song? I'm not trying to be mean, but seriously ..

When it comes to this mystery, I highly doubt a song that Jesco White is tap dancing to has anything to do with solving it. I think you're looking into it a little too much.

[stockburner]

Raising hell is a very very common saying referring to causing trouble hence why most people see it as that.

 

I understand that's what a literal meaning of the phrase is...

 

What i was stating is that the intended meaning, if it were a hint as many people interpret it to be, is not the direct literal meaning of the phrase, but it's a play on words. There is at all times a little buzzard helicopter on the base, and if its raised up high enough, you will see the Zancudo UFO.

 

My point was that people are still running around "raising hell" on the base thinking it's going to help solve something, when really the meaning is that you'll see the UFO if you raise a helicopter from that location.

[Scoobysrt]

Ok, i see your reasoning.

[stockburner]

 

Do you have a reason as to why you are dissecting a song? I'm not trying to be mean, but seriously ..

When it comes to this mystery, I highly doubt a song that Jesco White is tap dancing to has anything to do with solving it. I think you're looking into it a little too much.

 

 

I could care less about the song... But it's been mentioned on this thread many times by others who I feel are wasting time with an incorrect interpretation of it.

[agonistes06]

 

guy who is shooting the chicken, trying for a truck.....the guy who originally posted that, i could almost swear he said he was shooting the egg shape on the side of the building, not the chicken. i am not going to find you the post though, in all this (i just don't have the stomach for it), but that's what i remember. i'll try to remember to test it myself later.

thank you for your time.

No, thankyou for your time.
I mentioned the cone, i am more than happy to say if im mistaken and will go and try the egg shape on the wall. I was sure everyone said the cone but I'm only human and often get things wrong.
I will post back my results. Thankyou for your reply.

 

it's no problem, i had it in my mind to go try also is the only reason i remembered, he was mentioning finding the egg shape in the first place, i think. i didn't have a chance to game last night, as life prevented me, but i've got a few things i want to shoot at tonight, i figured if you can get it to work, and i can get it to work, we all have something new to obsess on, lol.

 

edit: and thank YOU for making me glad i went through the posts i slept through this morning, i almost didn't when i saw many of them were fighting, lol. i'm glad i saw your post.

Edited November 8, 2013 by agonistes06

[Scoobysrt]

My interest is in seeing where the truck goes if anywhere. I'm sure thats your driving force as well.

I'm wondering if its an egg based around a film like Duel or somthing.

[agonistes06]

don't know, but i agree, i was planning to be there with a fast car at the ready.

 

 

edit: i am almost tempted to go around shooting random stuff to see if ti triggers an abduction or some other weirdness, but i think that way lies madness.

Edited November 8, 2013 by agonistes06

[JamesG075]

Hmmmmm I threw Franlink's dog off Mount Chilliad and a jetpack spawned...weird.

Edited November 8, 2013 by JamesG075

[agonistes06]

Hmmmmm I threw Franlink's dog off Mount Chilliad and a jetpack spawned...weird.

how did you pick him up?

 

 

edit: because to throw something, you have to pick it up. in case it was any way unclear that i'm calling bullsh*t.

Edited November 8, 2013 by agonistes06

[Huffin-Puffin]

You guys know that Rockstar don't write the songs and they all predate the creation of the game except for a few specific ones right?

[Scoobysrt]

If you use that theory they didnt invent ufo's either.

 

Unfortunatley i am already into the 'shoot everything' mode. I'm working over the map doing everything and anything at everything and anything.

 

My search however is aimed at seeing every joke/egg in the game rather than looking for a jetpack. That ship has sailed for me, I'm probably not clever enough to find it if there is one.

[am30]

My interest is in seeing where the truck goes if anywhere. I'm sure thats your driving force as well.

I'm wondering if its an egg based around a film like Duel or somthing.

 

I'm afraid the truck doesn't lead you anywhere, of this I am convinced. It's just the typical reaction of a scared motorist in the game. They floor it for a while and then return to normal speed or the driver gets scared off if you hit their vehicle enough times. I just introduced the weaponry of the Buzzard to the giant chicken and got whacked by a truck which then honked it's horn and sped off, crashed on the wrong side of the road just past the saw mill and then carried on going in the same direction.

[MrEZmoneymaker]

 

the map line drawings: in the second drawing you posted before all the bitching, i believe you have 'two' and 'three' in arbitrary places, unless you were using the map topographically i think that this lineup won't work, and if you ARE using the map in 3-d, the parts at the bottom would not wrap as fully as the parts that lay on the mountain itself, because the mountain spreads into flat at the bottom, so would the mural overlay. this is part of the reason that i think an overlay in the first place is really going a little far. usually the game gives you all you need to solve things without photoshop. i mean, we're not playing myst.

i agree that it isnt perfect, hence why i redid those parts when trying to see if a link could be found to the jetpack location. As the more the lines were not exact the bigger error for margin would be plotting off it, hence why i used a bigger area for that other image. I didnt see the need to put that much effort in for this tho, was just to grasp the idea i was trying to portray.

 

It was intended that the red triangle i placed over the mural would be placed at the bottom of each numbered side with the middle point (red dot in center) & if you were able to tilt it forward til the top point was on the mountain peak. Look at the numbers of boxes for side you have triangle on it & they will be near those points. Then move to next side etc.

 

easiest way to think of it would be having 4 mural triangles i did then placing them in the same way as i said above around the numbers, & it should resemble a pyramid. We dont need 4 tho as only 3 sides of chiliad had glyphs. So theres no 4th line on other side for that reason.

 

Personally i didnt need it to solve it, i did it so others could grasp the concept & make sense why on the mural the 5th glyph was on the complete wrong side. Saw many posting how it made no sense & must be wrong. But if you realised that standing from side '3' using that principal it would make more sense & lineup as it shows on the mural. As the corner of side 1 & 3 the mountain drops away at the edge so you can see past it & the 5th glyph would be visiable from there.

 

It would be impossible to replicate exactly every terrain contour to be exact without more resources than i have at home. It wasnt meant to be a overlay, i have stated that it wont work like that for the reasons you have said. atleast i would be closer than a trying to match up against a flat 1 dimensional pic of the side of chiliad with the mural

 

I appreciate your questions as id rather answer best i can to help, than just get lots of hate for trying to help. Its all i am trying to do.

Edited November 8, 2013 by MrEZmoneymaker

[agonistes06]

 

 

I appreciate your questions as id rather answer best i can to help, than just get lots of hate for trying to help. Its all i am trying to do.

 

it's all good, i am not trying to criticize; the overlaying is something ive pondered way more than i probably should, not being as savvy in cartography as i'd like. when someone said (i read fast and sometimes forget to check screen names, so please no one get offended by me calling you 'that guy who said') that the mural probably wasn't meant to be considered flat, it made sense to me that if the center line of the mural goes straight down from the top of chiliad, even on the outside of the mountain. of course if it went inside the mountain we'd have to consider the 'cracked egg' is straight down from the platform, unless we do some magic foldy work at the bottom and still bring it out to fit the chicken place...

 

i don't know if i am making sense, but as a 3-d model the glyphs seem fit in the boxes more perfectly, i surmise without evidence. however in that case, the bottom of the mural then becomes a crap shoot. is it a tunnel? is it a topographical thing? you see the dilemma. this is why i'm kinda leaning away from the mural as a map overlay....if it is meant to represent real location, my guess is that they are approximate, or representative, instead of literal.

[Bitches_Brew]

 

 

the map line drawings: in the second drawing you posted before all the bitching, i believe you have 'two' and 'three' in arbitrary places, unless you were using the map topographically i think that this lineup won't work, and if you ARE using the map in 3-d, the parts at the bottom would not wrap as fully as the parts that lay on the mountain itself, because the mountain spreads into flat at the bottom, so would the mural overlay. this is part of the reason that i think an overlay in the first place is really going a little far. usually the game gives you all you need to solve things without photoshop. i mean, we're not playing myst.

Personally i didnt need it to solve it,

 

solve what? i have not read a solution for anything.

 

if something was solved we would have results.

[MrEZmoneymaker]

 

i don't know if i am making sense, but as a 3-d model the glyphs seem fit in the boxes more perfectly, i surmise without evidence. however in that case, the bottom of the mural then becomes a crap shoot. is it a tunnel? is it a topographical thing? you see the dilemma. this is why i'm kinda leaning away from the mural as a map overlay....if it is meant to represent real location, my guess is that they are approximate, or representative, instead of literal.

 

You have hit it dead on the nail! they were never meant to be read as a literal position thats why overlaying would never work for the bottom glyphs.

 

Even the lines connecting each glyph box on the mural is only a guide, wasnt meant to be measured & you go to the same distance & it would match. They made them all straight lines, so people expected it to match? umm... the mountain doesnt have dead straight lines tho?

 

Also because the 2 top glyphs were so close to matching an overlay, most looked at it that way, hence why all the confusion these i believed were put on this way to confuse us. The closer to the top they are the more they will match, thats why the bottom 2 were so out for that reason. If they had used same idea but all 4 sides of chiliad with all glyphs near the middle to bottom i doubt we would have even half by now.

[agonistes06]

 

 

i don't know if i am making sense, but as a 3-d model the glyphs seem fit in the boxes more perfectly, i surmise without evidence. however in that case, the bottom of the mural then becomes a crap shoot. is it a tunnel? is it a topographical thing? you see the dilemma. this is why i'm kinda leaning away from the mural as a map overlay....if it is meant to represent real location, my guess is that they are approximate, or representative, instead of literal.

 

You have hit it dead on the nail! they were never meant to be read as a literal position thats why overlaying would never work for the bottom glyphs.

 

Even the lines connecting each glyph box on the mural is only a guide, wasnt meant to be measured & you go to the same distance & it would match. They made them all straight lines, so people expected it to match? umm... the mountain doesnt have dead straight lines tho?

 

Also because the 2 top glyphs were so close to matching an overlay, most looked at it that way, hence why all the confusion these i believed were put on this way to confuse us. The closer to the top they are the more they will match, thats why the bottom 2 were so out for that reason. If they had used same idea but all 4 sides of chiliad with all glyphs near the middle to bottom i doubt we would have even half by now.

 

well, exactly. i'm working on a bit of an overlay myself (using tracing paper and the map in the game sleeve) to draw an approximate triangle between the hovering ufo's and the submerged one. not really sure what i am looking for other than maybe a new point of interest. however, i honestly think any further puzzles are meant to be solved without a notebook handy (bearing in mind it's still gta), but i'm enjoying playing with the ufo's for the moment.

 

in the long run i am trying to let clues lead me instead of forcing them to line up or deciding before i know what they mean. as mentioned above, i am not invested in a specific outcome, i am just hoping to find cool new stuff that's been overlooked. hopefully with that in mind, i don't crawl too deep inside any one theory....

[MrEZmoneymaker]

 

 

 

 

in the long run i am trying to let clues lead me instead of forcing them to line up or deciding before i know what they mean. as mentioned above, i am not invested in a specific outcome, i am just hoping to find cool new stuff that's been overlooked. hopefully with that in mind, i don't crawl too deep inside any one theory....

 

Thats why i worked on this image people had just found the last real glyph so why would i need to look more into it? even when it was found but was shown with a line above the ufo, i already knew that it wasnt right, because i had a theory a week or more ago, that the symbol described made no sense to me.

 

I worked on my theory so i could know what it was suppose to mean. Just thought id share so others could see how R* were making these clues, to show that you cant think so black & white in your observations, especially if they threw the clue in your face, the art of deception can play mean tricks if you let it

[tonywehbe]

 

 

 

i don't know if i am making sense, but as a 3-d model the glyphs seem fit in the boxes more perfectly, i surmise without evidence. however in that case, the bottom of the mural then becomes a crap shoot. is it a tunnel? is it a topographical thing? you see the dilemma. this is why i'm kinda leaning away from the mural as a map overlay....if it is meant to represent real location, my guess is that they are approximate, or representative, instead of literal.

 

You have hit it dead on the nail! they were never meant to be read as a literal position thats why overlaying would never work for the bottom glyphs.

 

Even the lines connecting each glyph box on the mural is only a guide, wasnt meant to be measured & you go to the same distance & it would match. They made them all straight lines, so people expected it to match? umm... the mountain doesnt have dead straight lines tho?

 

Also because the 2 top glyphs were so close to matching an overlay, most looked at it that way, hence why all the confusion these i believed were put on this way to confuse us. The closer to the top they are the more they will match, thats why the bottom 2 were so out for that reason. If they had used same idea but all 4 sides of chiliad with all glyphs near the middle to bottom i doubt we would have even half by now.

 

well, exactly. i'm working on a bit of an overlay myself (using tracing paper and the map in the game sleeve) to draw an approximate triangle between the hovering ufo's and the submerged one. not really sure what i am looking for other than maybe a new point of interest. however, i honestly think any further puzzles are meant to be solved without a notebook handy (bearing in mind it's still gta), but i'm enjoying playing with the ufo's for the moment.

 

in the long run i am trying to let clues lead me instead of forcing them to line up or deciding before i know what they mean. as mentioned above, i am not invested in a specific outcome, i am just hoping to find cool new stuff that's been overlooked. hopefully with that in mind, i don't crawl too deep inside any one theory....

 

if you want to have fun you can crash the blimp on the ufo sometimes the ufo disappear

[Von_Von]

We will get GTA6 sonner than you will find the jetpack in GTA5.

[tonywehbe]

We will get GTA6 sonner than you will find the jetpack in GTA5.

lol

[tonywehbe]

GUYS I JUST FIGURED SOMETHING OUT. THE EGG, UFO, AND JETPACK IS UNDERGROUND WE NEED TO LOOK FOR TUNNELS!

i looked i every tunnel on the map i think if there is a secret tunnel it will be underwater somewhere

[MrEZmoneymaker]

We will get GTA6 sonner than you will find the jetpack in GTA5.

haha i hope not! wont be buying another gta unless it comes for free for forgetting to put it in this is my first gta ever, i dont usually even play this type of game, but mate lent me it, got abit addicted, 100% in a couple of weeks, was about to go back to COD then the ufo mystery got momentum & i was caught up in it lol

Edited November 8, 2013 by MrEZmoneymaker