Decoding the Mount Chiliad Mural

[Garo]

If anything happens in mt chiliad, I think you get inside through the middle of the mountain, now I couldn't begin to tell you how and where but, once you find the way on through the middle section of it, you get whatever is inside and come out through the middle door next to the mural so you can automatically put the pieces together that were unanswered about the mural

[XMarqstheSpot]

 

Hippy Monument...

 

http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/snapmatic/#photo/MQQRIPVZaUOuhAF17wpIgA

 

Beam up on left side

WOW! signal on right side

UFO/Eye above.

 

 

 

Sand Glyph...

 

http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/snapmatic/#photo/SgJfLVGPDUquyZmQG_OGyw

 

Arrow pointing up on left side(Beam up).

WOW! signal on the right side(!WOW Signal)

Eye/UFO above.(UFO above camp)

 

 

doesn't really get any closer matching than that with glyphs and symbols, IMHO.

 

Feel free to disagree though, just presenting the evidence side by side since my first post only showed the Sand Glyph.

 

See, posting that visually for some of us that can't immediately check it out due to not being by their console helps a lot.

 

That helps your argument a lot.

 

So yes, now I am siding with your argument more than that one. Perhaps that top part of the "beam up" could be that that shelf area with the weird mural on it.

 

And thank you for not accepting that glyph as "This is Chiliad and it means to go to the top of the mountian to see the UFO". We need ideas like these.

 

Thank you for the honest opinion, i appreciate it.

 

The miscommunication was my fault as i should have linked both pics first, lesson learned.

 

the connections just happened to pop into my head, i didn't even have my XBOX on at the time, was one of those "Lightbulb" moments.

[Modified Soul]

 

I like jarriix trying to do things in game, makes sense.

 

I just wasted some time coming up with a pic of the mural I can overlay, I traced this from a social club pic so it should be perfect if anybody wants to try any overlays (dont get mad at me when people get pissed for posting them).

 

 

 

 

Then I tried the overlay that strangone came up with, but with the actual proportionate mural. I could not get anything to match up. I was hoping it would match up like his...

 

 

but the closest I could get was by making the mural "shorter" (I assumed the average slope of Chiliad is 45 degrees, so I was pretty much trying to make it look like I set the mural on the ground of the mountain [at an angle], but took a picture from a satellite view). From there I tried to get the jetpack shadow and the ufo to both be in the right spot, and barely succeeded, if at all. The egg is right in Paleto bay. Here is my closest attempt.

 

 

Let me say that I dont think I solved anything, and I was hoping it would line up a lot better (like strangones hand drawn pic).

what exactly are you trying to line up.

 

 

I like jarriix trying to do things in game, makes sense.

 

I just wasted some time coming up with a pic of the mural I can overlay, I traced this from a social club pic so it should be perfect if anybody wants to try any overlays (dont get mad at me when people get pissed for posting them).

 

 

 

Then I tried the overlay that strangone came up with, but with the actual proportionate mural. I could not get anything to match up. I was hoping it would match up like his...

 

but the closest I could get was by making the mural "shorter" (I assumed the average slope of Chiliad is 45 degrees, so I was pretty much trying to make it look like I set the mural on the ground of the mountain [at an angle], but took a picture from a satellite view). From there I tried to get the jetpack shadow and the ufo to both be in the right spot, and barely succeeded, if at all. The egg is right in Paleto bay. Here is my closest attempt.

 

Let me say that I dont think I solved anything, and I was hoping it would line up a lot better (like strangones hand drawn pic).

is this what you mean ?

 

Edited October 23, 2013 by Modified Soul

[Garo]

There's an entry to this mountain and we need to find it, they wouldn't make it extremely complex when they have a ton of uneducated people roaming their game, that's what we need to do get Inside the mountain and it's probably as simple as gta Iv and the statute of happiness

[snoopdoug]

 

I like jarriix trying to do things in game, makes sense.

 

I just wasted some time coming up with a pic of the mural I can overlay, I traced this from a social club pic so it should be perfect if anybody wants to try any overlays (dont get mad at me when people get pissed for posting them).

 

 

 

 

Then I tried the overlay that strangone came up with, but with the actual proportionate mural. I could not get anything to match up. I was hoping it would match up like his...

 

 

but the closest I could get was by making the mural "shorter" (I assumed the average slope of Chiliad is 45 degrees, so I was pretty much trying to make it look like I set the mural on the ground of the mountain [at an angle], but took a picture from a satellite view). From there I tried to get the jetpack shadow and the ufo to both be in the right spot, and barely succeeded, if at all. The egg is right in Paleto bay. Here is my closest attempt.

 

 

Let me say that I dont think I solved anything, and I was hoping it would line up a lot better (like strangones hand drawn pic).

what exactly are you trying to line up.

 

I was trying to line up the square to the peak of chiliad, since I was assuming the "eye/UFO" glyph would actually be above the mountain. Then the jetpack figure to the jetpack looking shadow in the Chiliad Wilderness on the sacrifice rock. Then the Egg I wasnt focused on, but this was always in Paleto Bay. Then the UFO to the sunken UFO in the ocean.

[Kurt_Cobain67]

Guys what you think about the text in ma latest messagge?

[BerntBalchen]

The airstrip in the desert looks like the arrow????

[Garo]

Everyone just needs to keep In mind this is gran theft auto and not Indiana jones

[snoopdoug]

 

Its not supposed to line up with mine . The drawing is done on a small flat wall . The mountain is huge . The Mural would have to be rendered into a 3d drawing or stretched AROUND the mountain . All you can tell from the Mural is north and south or top and bottom , the egg to the eye/ufo . People are looking at a flat map not taking into account the different heights of the glyphs .

 

And again im starting to think the drawing in the boxes are not meant to be in any location found by using an overlay . I think they are just there at the bottom to tell you what you will get for solving the puzzle .

 

 

So do you think its a satellite view? Or a view from the side of the mountain?

[XMarqstheSpot]

Everyone just needs to keep In mind this is gran theft auto and not Indiana jones

Agreed, we are critically overthinking things.

 

everything is right in front of us, we just have to see what we're looking at and not interperate.

[XMarqstheSpot]

 

 

Its not supposed to line up with mine . The drawing is done on a small flat wall . The mountain is huge . The Mural would have to be rendered into a 3d drawing or stretched AROUND the mountain . All you can tell from the Mural is north and south or top and bottom , the egg to the eye/ufo . People are looking at a flat map not taking into account the different heights of the glyphs .

 

And again im starting to think the drawing in the boxes are not meant to be in any location found by using an overlay . I think they are just there at the bottom to tell you what you will get for solving the puzzle .

 

 

So do you think its a satellite view? Or a view from the side of the mountain?

 

It's a profile view, all the glyphs have been found using the profile view. No need to to to make overlays, we are WAY past that step in this mystery.

Edited October 23, 2013 by XMarqstheSpot

[Jet Darkness]

Kill gingers.

 

Donate money to cris.

 

Something involving iFruit corp. (The pear tree and apple tree)

 

Then go to ufo.

[mmm chocolate]

If anything happens in mt chiliad, I think you get inside through the middle of the mountain, now I couldn't begin to tell you how and where but, once you find the way on through the middle section of it, you get whatever is inside and come out through the middle door next to the mural so you can automatically put the pieces together that were unanswered about the mural

I am still hoping this is the case.

[XMarqstheSpot]

Kill gingers.

 

Donate money to cris.

 

Something involving iFruit corp. (The pear tree and apple tree)

 

Then go to ufo.

This... actually makes sense to me.

 

Maybe i smoked too much "celebration" weed?

[proxygeek]

Guys,

 

I'm out for a bit.

 

I'm going to pursue my theories solo. There is too many swinging dicks in this forum. We should be approaching this like grid computing with each of us representing a CPU on a grid. Some CPUs will be able to process more information than others, but all CPUs work together for a greater good; I don't see that happening anymore. As we approach 150 pages, if you remove all of the trash talk from us being baited into responding to stupidity, you have probably 75 pages. If you remove all redundant posts, you probably have 50 pages.

 

We are trying to solve too many problems at once and haven't even properly addressed the mural (and don't insult my intelligence by telling me it only refers to the Chiliad UFO, it does not).

 

My humble opinion is we should be investigating/concluding in clusters. A cluster of us attacks the mural and nothing else. A cluster of us attacks the Xs and nothing else. Etc. I FULLY REALIZE THAT BY COMPARTMENTALIZING WE RUN THE RISK OF MISSING INFORMATION, that's why we dedicate a cluster of people to compile relevant clues.

 

This can be a bit difficult to do on a forum, but not if threads are broken down into each respective cluster with a main thread for compilation. Just an idea, but this thread is getting ridiculous.

 

I for one think that the Chiliad mural lines are arranged out of order and quite possibly can be re-ordered. If you think about it, this puzzle has a logical conclusion that doesn't require the insane ends we're going through to find answers.

 

At this point, I don't think we see the forest for the trees.

 

I'll be checking in now and again and will notify you all if I make any discoveries.

 

Good luck and Godspeed!

[Garo]

Places that interest me most:

 

Observatory

 

Mt chiliad (of course)

 

Fib headquarters building

 

Fort zancudo

 

Altruist camp

 

And Trevor, Michael, and franklins house cause hey, if the answer is RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, that's a great place to start cause it's I fact where we start every time we play the game!

[Jet Darkness]

I've been thinking about it rather hard. Read the tract. Think in metaphor

Edited October 23, 2013 by Jet Darkness

[Garo]

Somethin just seems fishy also when the bright bright deep red sun is beating on the whole map, idk why I feel that way but the sun literally always triggers me to look for clues

[snoopdoug]

 

 

So do you think its a satellite view? Or a view from the side of the mountain?

 

It's a profile view, all the glyphs have been found using the profile view. No need to to to make overlays, we are WAY past that step in this mystery.

 

 

I think Ive seen every overlay there is, Ive been following the entire time. Ive already said none of the others lined up right, but after seeing strangones pic (and more people talking and finding the "jetpack shadow" which looks like the drawing on the mural and falls in the right spot) I wanted to make sure.

 

Just wanted to show that the glyphs on strangones pic and the actual mural do line up. Not exactly perfect, but more than coincidence would allow I think.

Edited October 23, 2013 by snoopdoug

[XMarqstheSpot]

This makes me wonder now, IF the sand glyph does represent the Hippy Camp then what are the Red Arrows for?

 

Red herrings?

 

Or are we supposed to stop by the Hippy Camp on our way somewhere else?

[datsuperlemonhaze]

Fort Zancudo Reconaissance

 

Okay guys, I'm going to contribute some intel here. I know there's been some attempts to talk down the jetpack and focus on the mural, but the jetpack is part of the mural so I'm posting this here. That's the part I'm interested in, anyway. So, I've been focused on Fort Zancudo today, just stalking the place, and I'm trying to test an idea. In the midst of trying it out, I was killed, so I decided to pause for a moment and post.

 

If you're on the mountainside north of FZ, and use the sniper scope, you can scout the place out pretty well. Something that stood out to be were three guys who kept patrolling this one little section near the housing units. I watched them for like 30 minutes, and it looked something like the changing of the guard at the tomb of the unknowns. Then I noticed a soldier standing up on a spotlight up high, staring right at me. So I thought to myself...I wonder is I snipe one of these guys, what will happen? Well, first I shot the guy at the spotlight. That resulted in 3 stars, and caused every person in the fort to show up as pink dots, right? Okay, so then I picked off the three guys on foot patrol. All three died, and three dots disappeared from the radar. There were only 5 dots left! I started to make my way around the outside of the fort on foot, stopped to scope the fort, and could now find one of the other pink dots in the fort. He was standing next to another light in the center of the runway. One more pink dot disappeared.

 

In order to get a shot at the others, I started to loop around the east side of the fort, but then I fell off the hill and stepped into the Fort boundary, and THAT's when all hell broke loose. After that, there was a never-ending onslaught of soldiers.

 

Now, maybe, just maybe...take control means to take out all of the objectives inside the fort before attempting to take control and find what's inside? Just wanted to throw it out there.

 

Here's some other stuff I notices:

Bugle can be heard playing TAPS at 2300 and Reveille at 0530.

Trucks begin circling the houring unit area at 0700

Jeeps on patroll at 0800

Someone can be seen standing inside a southern watch tower during the day, probably one of the spotters which need to be taken out

RON fuel trucks inside of base...maybe a RON truck can access it?

 

Anyone else wanna try taking control of Zancudo from the outside in, instead of from the inside out as it seems we've tried already?

[XMarqstheSpot]

 

 

I'll be checking in now and again and will notify you all if I make any discoveries.

 

Good luck and Godspeed!

You're going to leave us on a day of a big discovery? doesn't compute.

[Garo]

And I doubt the ocean or any water mass has anything to do with any of the mural simply because a majority or gta players simply hate the water, sure it's greatly detailed in some places but if you realize it's only in places that most people will end up dumping a plane or car in, in fact there's clues crawling all over the city but not to help you but to throw you off track

[Garo]

Do whatever floats your boat but I suggest not to overlay the mural within the map because someone would've made a perfect fit and solved it within a week of the game coming out, it's beginning to be rather a conspiracy feeling ether than a hunt

[proxygeek]

 

 

 

So do you think its a satellite view? Or a view from the side of the mountain?

 

It's a profile view, all the glyphs have been found using the profile view. No need to to to make overlays, we are WAY past that step in this mystery.

 

 

I think Ive seen every overlay there is, Ive been following the entire time. Ive already said none of the others lined up right, but after seeing strangones pic (and more people talking and finding the "jetpack shadow" which looks like the drawing on the mural and falls in the right spot) I wanted to make sure.

 

Just wanted to show that the glyphs on strangones pic and the actual mural do line up. Not exactly perfect, but more than coincidence would allow I think.

 

I lined the diagram up like this a week and a half ago and it does line up, however, the X locations point at nothing relevant. I think the mural is layered in that it contains multiple puzzles in one mural all bunched together. I have always respected the exact direction of the red Chiliad eye under the observation deck and approached my search from Paleto bay. At least one X lines up perfectly and that's the UFO beam glyph.

 

Also, the Jetpack location would point towards Zancudo.

[proxygeek]

 

 

 

I'll be checking in now and again and will notify you all if I make any discoveries.

 

Good luck and Godspeed!

You're going to leave us on a day of a big discovery? doesn't compute.

 

I must have missed the discovery, what was found?

 

I love the pun BTW

[Garo]

All these glyphs around the map I think relate to a whole different Easter egg, no relating to the mural, the only clues about the mural are the mural itself, so I'd say screw the little glyphs and beeps and what not that people report daily, because as it was said they have so many eggs in the game that nobody will find them all, hence why nobody has solved even one really, cause they are simply trying to smash everything into one big egg, that's not what we should be doing, one step at a time guys

[ChillerVapes]

Fort Zancudo Reconaissance

 

Okay guys, I'm going to contribute some intel here. I know there's been some attempts to talk down the jetpack and focus on the mural, but the jetpack is part of the mural so I'm posting this here. That's the part I'm interested in, anyway. So, I've been focused on Fort Zancudo today, just stalking the place, and I'm trying to test an idea. In the midst of trying it out, I was killed, so I decided to pause for a moment and post.

 

If you're on the mountainside north of FZ, and use the sniper scope, you can scout the place out pretty well. Something that stood out to be were three guys who kept patrolling this one little section near the housing units. I watched them for like 30 minutes, and it looked something like the changing of the guard at the tomb of the unknowns. Then I noticed a soldier standing up on a spotlight up high, staring right at me. So I thought to myself...I wonder is I snipe one of these guys, what will happen? Well, first I shot the guy at the spotlight. That resulted in 3 stars, and caused every person in the fort to show up as pink dots, right? Okay, so then I picked off the three guys on foot patrol. All three died, and three dots disappeared from the radar. There were only 5 dots left! I started to make my way around the outside of the fort on foot, stopped to scope the fort, and could now find one of the other pink dots in the fort. He was standing next to another light in the center of the runway. One more pink dot disappeared.

 

In order to get a shot at the others, I started to loop around the east side of the fort, but then I fell off the hill and stepped into the Fort boundary, and THAT's when all hell broke loose. After that, there was a never-ending onslaught of soldiers.

 

Now, maybe, just maybe...take control means to take out all of the objectives inside the fort before attempting to take control and find what's inside? Just wanted to throw it out there.

 

Here's some other stuff I notices:

Bugle can be heard playing TAPS at 2300 and Reveille at 0530.

Trucks begin circling the houring unit area at 0700

Jeeps on patroll at 0800

Someone can be seen standing inside a southern watch tower during the day, probably one of the spotters which need to be taken out

RON fuel trucks inside of base...maybe a RON truck can access it?

 

Anyone else wanna try taking control of Zancudo from the outside in, instead of from the inside out as it seems we've tried already?

Nice idea but I reckon the solders will simply respawn.

 

Have you had a wonder around the place yet with the no wanted level glitch?

 

Everyone goes about there daily business as if you didn't exist.

 

Replay the mission titled Construction Assassination

Buy a parachute before you get to the location.

Take out everyone at ground level and then go up in the lift.

When the lift stops, run out and jump to parachute away.

 

Go anywhere away from the city of interest ... the humane lab, the prison, fort zancudo. .. no wanted level.

 

The downside is, IF there is any triggers for a mini mission in any of the areas, it won't trigger as you are already in a mission so any doors / lifts which may work if a mission is triggered some how, we won't know about them.

[datsuperlemonhaze]

Nice idea but I reckon the solders will simply respawn.

 

 

As long as I stayed camped on the mountainside, no cops ever came for me. The only thing alerted were soldiers in the fort. So I sat watching the 4 I killed first for at least 10 minutes, they never respawned and my wanted level disappeared. I did it again, and this time started to move around to take out the rest of the points on the radar. As long as you stay outside of the fort, nothing respawns. It seems possible to take them all down.

[Seyenogard]

Guys, for all we know the mural might not even be meant to be used like that. It might need to be flipped around or placed upside down or both. I always thought it fit better with the silhouette of the mountain this way.