Make Over $2 Billion Per Character - Easy (Mild Spoilers)

[Ninjambie]

BAWSAQ is always "down for maintenance" when I try to invest in any of its stocks

[Gadgetball]

Oh how I'd love to see a detailed guide like this one on what to invest in and when and when to sell. Or is that available somewhere?

[Dr Kain]

 

Seeing as how I am more than halfway through the game and barely have $200,000 between all three characters, I don't see how this trophy is easy. Unless I somehow make $2 million in the next few missions, there is no way this is going to happen. It is also annoying because I have all of these asset properties to buy, but I cannot even afford them.

 

The last heist gives you between 18 and 36 million (per character, depending on the crew cut). Doing the Lester missions that aren't required for story mode like OP suggests will get you at least into the 9 digit range and into the 10 digit range if you can access BAWSAQ and time the investments right.

 

 

Uh yeah, if the game even lets me do that. It is kind of hard to make an investment when you have a clock counting down on how much time you have to kill your targets.

 

Even then, things are left a mystery. Like the last assassination mission I did was on a bus, but Lester never told me who the competing company was, so I had no idea who to invest in. RIght now, I have only invested in Ammunation, Gold something or other, and whatever HJK is.

 

BTW, hopefully the last heist is not the final mission, because I am not doing the final mission until that mission is the one that will give me my 100%.

Edited September 27, 2013 by Dr Kain

[Jozzborne]

Just want to give a shoutout to the OP-- this is the most brief and useful guide I've seen on this (I've been looking-- hard to get though all the garbage on some of the threads that have gone over most of this).

 

The only improvement I would make would be to point out more of the "profit" percentages for each investment-- What I mean is what we should expect to get in return so we don't sell early (I know you did some of these but not all)... and what it does after it peaks....

 

Example-- Betta investment for first assasination mission can return up to about 82% (it rises steadily over about an in game day then drops off suddenly)

 

Thanks for sharing-- going to book mark this thread.

 

Spuds

 

Yeah I know I just couldn't remember what they all go up to and I also have read (unsure on truth or not) that some go up differently for different people. For example my Betta peaked at about 81% on both playthroughs but others claim it will keep rising upwards of 100% so I just didn't include anything numbers wise for some since it may vary.

 

 

I Agree with most stated in this thread but diagree with the characters, i did what you stated with the heists because i was greedy, in the end i don't believe it will pay out better i just restarted and have completed the jewlery heist when i picked the best members i recieved a nearly 800k payout when i used the worse characters i lost a guy and couldn't clean out the store. It also states the better the crew the better the payout Skills or not. just a hint for anyone attmepting this currently.

 

Yeah well usually you will lose 1/3 of the first heist because someone will mess up but the amount you lose in that screw up is made back and then some when you can reuse the same crappy 6-7% cut guys in the final score that are now skilled instead of crappy from being used previously. If the final score is $200 MM I don't want to have four guys that want 14% each. I want to have guys who only want 7-9%. I don't know if the method matters either, I did the guns a' blazin approach instead of the stealthy approach which I believe requires one less crew member to hire.

 

 

The total from the jewlery heist was the same regardless of which crew I used, however I did make more with the better crew simply because I failed to pick up the bag that was dropped. That bag contains near 1.4 million dollars, basically 1/3 of the total heist cash.

 

Yeah the score is unaffected (how much you take) regardless of what you do. The only thing that changes is how much you actually keep/end up with. You may lose 1/3 of the first heist but its not very much money anyways. When you get to reuse those crappy players (who should no longer be crappy due to added experience) during the final score you will be glad they still only want 7% cuts.

 

 

Also on the random repeatable encounters you missed a pretty good one:

 

deal gone wrong - north of the river in North Chumash off the main highway there is the scene inspired by No Country for Old Men. Basically a circle of vehicles and npc's dead or dying. go over the hill to find two more npc's and a briefcase with $25,000. It's spawns every time I drive by it. Sometimes members of one of the sides come after you but you can avoid this by switching characters after you get the loot.

 

Good call...will add. I actually came across that today for the first time which was pretty awesome because I love that film.

 

 

Thank you very much for the cool tips. How do you skip the cutscenes when playing on Xbox 360?

 

Just keep pressing the A button.

 

With regard to the stocks you need to invest in on BAWSAQ, how will this change once the Social Club actually works? Will these investments be less predictable when BAWSAQ starts responding to player actions? Or will that only be Online?

 

I was wondering the same myself and I have no idea. IMO these stocks should be on the LCN not the BAWSAQ if in game events are manipulating them. They should be moved.

 

 

Great guide! Only problem I had was where you said to invest in AUG after the last mission. Once the game credits rolled my characters spawned with their 35 million and as I was about to immediately invest in AUG I noticed it already spiked 100%. I guess you don't have time to invest your final heist cash into it you must invest before final mission

 

Invest in AUG after the final score but before the last mission (so in between). You are correct that you can't use the final score earnings on this stock increase unfortunately but if you did everything I had mentioned you should have about 4-5 million per character aside from the last score to put into AUG.

[Jozzborne]

Uh yeah, if the game even lets me do that. It is kind of hard to make an investment when you have a clock counting down on how much time you have to kill your targets.

 

Even then, things are left a mystery. Like the last assassination mission I did was on a bus, but Lester never told me who the competing company was, so I had no idea who to invest in. RIght now, I have only invested in Ammunation, Gold something or other, and whatever HJK is.

 

BTW, hopefully the last heist is not the final mission, because I am not doing the final mission until that mission is the one that will give me my 100%.

 

 

You should invest all the money you have into the stock prior to starting the assassination not after you answer the pay phone or speak with Lester. That's why it's important to know the order of the missions so you invest in the correct company.

[Jozzborne]

Another last few tips that I will add to the OP...the Sonar Dock station on the northwest portion of the map can be bought for $250,000 and then you can go around and grab the 30 nuclear waste objects with the submarine. You get $23K per pickup and then a $25K bonus when you finish all 30 so you end up making $715,000 when its all said and done minus the $250,000 you put into it so you get netting you a pretty huge profit ($465,000). It takes a solid 90 minutes to do though.

 

There is also a string of Epsilon missions you can do that will net you over $2 MM in the end. Here is a guide

 

http://www.ign.com/wikis/gta-5/Seeking_the_Truth

Edited September 27, 2013 by Jozzborne

[OhLongJohnson]

This is a solid guide, except for three things.

 

Vangellico, Bilkinton, and Redwood don't reliably recover. I've done three playthroughs, and only on one did that ever happen. I tried reloading, waiting for literally 200+ in game days, switching characters, dying, etc. They sometimes never recover. This seems to be one of the dynamics that is random and only seems guaranteed through correlation and confirmation bias. It does happen sometimes so it's certainly worth trying, but isn't guaranteed.

 

Everything else seems to work every single time (so far at least,) including Augury. Because Redwood isn't reliable you can end up with far less than the billions described here, but should still net enough to buy every property by end game.

 

It should also be noted that the charts and highs and lows are largely for show in the game. They can suggest vaguely which way a stock may soon go, but they aren't literal representations of what happens. For instance, I got a maximum 49.99 % return on Betta Pharmaceuticals, but the actual stock said it had only risen 33%, and the chart for it still showed it as being flat after crashing following the heist. So don't rely on those numbers when investing in the game. They are only vague indicators, not accurate data.

 

So in a nut shell, only the mission related stock changes are reliable, some of the recoveries aren't reliable, and the charts and data are largely a façade and for show, so be careful.

[rjhsteel2001]

I Agree with most stated in this thread but diagree with the characters, i did what you stated with the heists because i was greedy, in the end i don't believe it will pay out better i just restarted and have completed the jewlery heist when i picked the best members i recieved a nearly 800k payout when i used the worse characters i lost a guy and couldn't clean out the store. It also states the better the crew the better the payout Skills or not. just a hint for anyone attmepting this currently.

I used the cheapest crew and still managed a £1.1m amount. Just remember to pick up the dropped cash!

[Poker2012chu]

 

 

It should also be noted that the charts and highs and lows are largely for show in the game. They can suggest vaguely which way a stock may soon go, but they aren't literal representations of what happens. For instance, I got a maximum 49.99 % return on Betta Pharmaceuticals, but the actual stock said it had only risen 33%, and the chart for it still showed it as being flat after crashing following the heist. So don't rely on those numbers when investing in the game. They are only vague indicators, not accurate data.

 

On my game, some of the charts are way, way off and downright wrong when it comes to recent trends. Yes, they'll show what has happened; however, what the graph shows as what happened Tuesday in the game is something that actually happened over an in-game month ago. Also, sometimes the last stock value vs current stock value don't match at all,

[Jozzborne]

This is a solid guide, except for three things.

 

Vangellico, Bilkinton, and Redwood don't reliably recover. I've done three playthroughs, and only on one did that ever happen. I tried reloading, waiting for literally 200+ in game days, switching characters, dying, etc. They sometimes never recover. This seems to be one of the dynamics that is random and only seems guaranteed through correlation and confirmation bias. It does happen sometimes so it's certainly worth trying, but isn't guaranteed.

 

Everything else seems to work every single time (so far at least,) including Augury. Because Redwood isn't reliable you can end up with far less than the billions described here, but should still net enough to buy every property by end game.

 

It should also be noted that the charts and highs and lows are largely for show in the game. They can suggest vaguely which way a stock may soon go, but they aren't literal representations of what happens. For instance, I got a maximum 49.99 % return on Betta Pharmaceuticals, but the actual stock said it had only risen 33%, and the chart for it still showed it as being flat after crashing following the heist. So don't rely on those numbers when investing in the game. They are only vague indicators, not accurate data.

 

So in a nut shell, only the mission related stock changes are reliable, some of the recoveries aren't reliable, and the charts and data are largely a façade and for show, so be careful.

 

 

 

 

 

It should also be noted that the charts and highs and lows are largely for show in the game. They can suggest vaguely which way a stock may soon go, but they aren't literal representations of what happens. For instance, I got a maximum 49.99 % return on Betta Pharmaceuticals, but the actual stock said it had only risen 33%, and the chart for it still showed it as being flat after crashing following the heist. So don't rely on those numbers when investing in the game. They are only vague indicators, not accurate data.

 

On my game, some of the charts are way, way off and downright wrong when it comes to recent trends. Yes, they'll show what has happened; however, what the graph shows as what happened Tuesday in the game is something that actually happened over an in-game month ago. Also, sometimes the last stock value vs current stock value don't match at all,

 

 

 

To both: Agreed. I have no idea why the graphs are even included if they have no actual meaning. I have done two playthroughs myself and all three recovered on both. The only stubborn one was the Vapid stock on my second time around. I ended up reloading a previous save and redoing the assassination over and got it to drop and recover. I think it has to do with it being on BAWSAQ instead of LCN which makes no sense.

[voad1]

Doing the last heist the obvious way, or B gets you the most starting money for investing with these missions. Find the female driver on the road side and maybe have her do a heist with you before this one to raise her stats. Go with all the cheapest guys you can get. I think just about 20 to 21% went to my crew total. Trev, Mike, and Frank all got 40 mil from that heist.

[voad1]

Also, my game broke once I got to 2.147 billion. Showed up as negative so I reloaded a save before I did the investment in tinkle. I guess that is where it tops out at.

[chainsoar]

Great guide. I keep telling people I refuse to play through the whole damn game all over again just to exploit the stock market but I'm pretty close to 100% now so I might well do just that when I'm finished.

[Jozzborne]

Doing the last heist the obvious way, or B gets you the most starting money for investing with these missions. Find the female driver on the road side and maybe have her do a heist with you before this one to raise her stats. Go with all the cheapest guys you can get. I think just about 20 to 21% went to my crew total. Trev, Mike, and Frank all got 40 mil from that heist.

 

 

Also, my game broke once I got to 2.147 billion. Showed up as negative so I reloaded a save before I did the investment in tinkle. I guess that is where it tops out at.

 

 

Nice man. I chose the obvious way my second time around and I noticed a much larger payout than the subtle way I opted for in play through one. I think it helps that it requires one less crew member if I'm not mistaken. I agree with using low cut people early on and saving them for the big score. That's odd yours crashed though. I had over $2.2 Billion with Trevor and had no issues.

[Saikou]

Best guide I've seen thus far, great job.

 

I just finished the game with the following (not yet invested in Tinkle)

- 1,5XX,XXX,XXX with Michael

- 1,4XX,XXX,XXX with Trevor

- 1,3XX,XXX,XXX with Franklin (spent about 60-100K on the Getaway for the last heist)

 

Thanks for sharing this. i had only about 26 Mill across all characters on my first playthrough.

Cheers!

Edited September 27, 2013 by iEdwin

[Dragon082]

I had two of my characters at 2.147 billion. It seems that is the limit for money in this game. They cannot carry more. I actually got that amount BEFORE the tinkle stock with the airport guy which is the last step. So it was a bit of a waste since I gained no money from him.

 

Instead I reloaded a save and bought a bunch of stuff including the gold course. Then I did the tinkle stock and maxed my money out at 2.147 billion again. I guess you can't have more than that per character.

[Ice1980]

Looking for a little help here. Before my first heist, the jewel store one and before the stock tinkle tip from Lester, I want to have a least a 1 million in cash to use for investment. I'm have not continued the story yet to unlock Michael. I wish t explore and hunt down the money cases hidden in the waters. Besides these and robbing 24/7, how can I make money before my first heist and by lesters tinkle tip? Thank

[Poker2012chu]

Looking for a little help here. Before my first heist, the jewel store one and before the stock tinkle tip from Lester, I want to have a least a 1 million in cash to use for investment. I'm have not continued the story yet to unlock Michael. I wish t explore and hunt down the money cases hidden in the waters. Besides these and robbing 24/7, how can I make money before my first heist and by lesters tinkle tip? Thank

 

It would make your life much easier if you wait to become a billionare after the main story line. Don't get me wrong, you can get over 3 million an hour doing the treasure trick (found out it's easiest to do it on the 20k in the east) that way, but the real capital to become a billionaire won't come unless you're investing over 30 million. You're not going to get much money to invest that would give you the big bucks until literally the last mission. I would keep most of the money you earn and use it in conjunction with what you get in all of the story missions on the Lester mission investments.

[Ice1980]

 

Looking for a little help here. Before my first heist, the jewel store one and before the stock tinkle tip from Lester, I want to have a least a 1 million in cash to use for investment. I'm have not continued the story yet to unlock Michael. I wish t explore and hunt down the money cases hidden in the waters. Besides these and robbing 24/7, how can I make money before my first heist and by lesters tinkle tip? Thank

 

It would make your life much easier if you wait to become a billionare after the main story line. Don't get me wrong, you can get over 3 million an hour doing the treasure trick (found out it's easiest to do it on the 20k in the east) that way, but the real capital to become a billionaire won't come unless you're investing over 30 million. You're not going to get much money to invest that would give you the big bucks until literally the last mission. I would keep most of the money you earn and use it in conjunction with what you get in all of the story missions on the Lester mission investments.

 

Thanks for the tip. I will have to finish the story first I guess.

[lilvipr05]

To OP,

 

I just completed the Jewelery store heist and dumped everything into VAG on all characters and atleast a week has gone by and that stock has yet to go up enough to make me any profit. The lowest mine went ot was $65 a share. The hisgest it has gone is to $66 a share. How long should one have to wait to see a return on investment.

Edited September 27, 2013 by lilvipr05

[Selwood24]

 

Example-- Betta investment for first assasination mission can return up to about 82% (it rises steadily over about an in game day then drops off suddenly)

 

Spuds

Not for me, BET didn't rise above 50% and that's after waiting 3 days, and that's when it started to go down.

 

So it's obvious you don't get the same results everytime.

[jaskdavis]

Just did my first assassination of Bilkinton's CEO, I put ALL MY MONEY between all 3 characters on "Betta Pharmaceutical" then Killed the CEO and after about 10 game hours the stock peaked at 82.8% and I almost doubled my money and sold all shares! Thanks OP

[Swiss Made]

I have a question regarding the Vangelico heist: do I invest my money from both characters into VAG before I get the heist's pay or after I've receive the pay?

[OhLongJohnson]

 

 

Example-- Betta investment for first assasination mission can return up to about 82% (it rises steadily over about an in game day then drops off suddenly)

 

Spuds

Not for me, BET didn't rise above 50% and that's after waiting 3 days, and that's when it started to go down.

 

So it's obvious you don't get the same results everytime.

 

Yep, mine tends to do this as well. Only in one of three different games did it rise above 49.99% for me before beginning to depreciate. In one it peaked at 76%.

[TeeSoprano]

Im doing my 2nd play through and after the jewellery store heist Vangelico has gone down 22% or so to $212. Will it go down more? Im with Trevor now playing through a bunch of his missions, did I miss the boat on this one?

 

I used the expensive crew on the first heist too and reallt dont want to start over, lol

[TeeSoprano]

I have a question regarding the Vangelico heist: do I invest my money from both characters into VAG before I get the heist's pay or after I've receive the pay?

+1

[lazedout]

Question: Whats the point of this? There is no use for the money. 150 mil for the golf course, is really the only big chunk of money if you want that, other than that its useless. If the $ carried over to GTAO it would be a different story, but am I missing something?

[meth.]

i just finished the main missions with 21mil on Frank. i'm not redoing the story but i did save the assassination missions til the end. just wish i saw the bit on the security stock between the final missions but oh well

[Jozzborne]

Best guide I've seen thus far, great job.

 

I just finished the game with the following (not yet invested in Tinkle)

- 1,5XX,XXX,XXX with Michael

- 1,4XX,XXX,XXX with Trevor

- 1,3XX,XXX,XXX with Franklin (spent about 60-100K on the Getaway for the last heist)

 

Thanks for sharing this. i had only about 26 Mill across all characters on my first playthrough.

Cheers!

 

Thanks man glad it worked!

 

To OP,

 

I just completed the Jewelery store heist and dumped everything into VAG on all characters and atleast a week has gone by and that stock has yet to go up enough to make me any profit. The lowest mine went ot was $65 a share. The hisgest it has gone is to $66 a share. How long should one have to wait to see a return on investment.

 

It takes quite a while, I think doing some missions makes it go by much quicker than just waiting/saving. I would hold off a little longer. I personally didn't make much on this stock mine only went up a bit and I still made all the money in the long run. I just included it because I know others have claimed it made them a lot but it seems to vary.

 

 

 

Example-- Betta investment for first assasination mission can return up to about 82% (it rises steadily over about an in game day then drops off suddenly)

 

Spuds

Not for me, BET didn't rise above 50% and that's after waiting 3 days, and that's when it started to go down.

 

So it's obvious you don't get the same results everytime.

 

 

Right, I got about 81% and I have heard others getting over 100%. That's why I didn't include %'s to watch for on some of these because you never know what the peak will be for your game.

 

Just did my first assassination of Bilkinton's CEO, I put ALL MY MONEY between all 3 characters on "Betta Pharmaceutical" then Killed the CEO and after about 10 game hours the stock peaked at 82.8% and I almost doubled my money and sold all shares! Thanks OP

 

Don't forget to invest back into Bilkinton after you cash out on Betta!

 

 

I have a question regarding the Vangelico heist: do I invest my money from both characters into VAG before I get the heist's pay or after I've receive the pay?

 

After definitely. The key here is to buy low and wait for it to recover. If you buy beforehand it will crash and while it does go back up it won't go up 100% to what it used to be.

 

 

Im doing my 2nd play through and after the jewellery store heist Vangelico has gone down 22% or so to $212. Will it go down more? Im with Trevor now playing through a bunch of his missions, did I miss the boat on this one?

 

I used the expensive crew on the first heist too and reallt dont want to start over, lol

 

This is the one that seems to vary the most. My first playthrough it didn't really go down much but on my second it hit $40. I would wait a little bit and see if it goes down. If not I wouldn't bother with it. You will still make $2B without this part. Also, the crew thing doesn't matter too much again you still still make bank. You can follow the IGN guide for the Epsilon if you want in the OP that will get you a few million to make up for it.

[Trevkillz]

I wouldn't bother with Vangelico unless it drops below 50$. It seems pretty unreliable, only dropped to 119$ for me and only raised to 120$ after many missions and sleep/death hrs. and I'm now to the first Lester assassination so gave up on it and sold for 9k total. Also you can't go all in right away since that is when they introduce Trevor and you don't get your payout from the jewelry heist until after his intro missions. The other tips are good though, I didn't invest in Redwood first time around and that seems like where the $'s at, tks for this.

 

 

@Selwood make sure you invest before you start the Lester missions except during the bus assassination, it does make a difference I only got around 50% first time using sleep hours and investing afterwards, reloaded and invested before and did some freeroam instead and it went to 81%

 

 

Edit: You also say to invest in Bilkinton after BettaPharms? I thought Bilkintons rival was DollarPillz, should we invest in both? Reason I ask is Bawsaq is seperate from LCN right? Do changes in Bawsaq effect LCN stock?

Edited September 28, 2013 by Trevkillz