tom_p1980 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) And if Grove Street and CJ isn't mentioned or even hinted at via an easter egg in GTA5 will the San Andreas fanboys cry? will they send death threats to Rockstar "y did u do dis Rokstarr? we luv CJ!", form a cult, wear green robes and burn your copies of GTAV which has been crudely built together into a giant Wicker Man, with Sam and Dan Houser locked inside. Will they form a circle around it and watch this Wicker Man burn, holding each others hands and humming the GTA San Andreas theme tune. Personally I hope there is no mention of Grove Street, CJ or that game from 2005, just to p*ss the San Andreas clique right off. These people are stuck in 2005. Edited September 9, 2013 by tom_p1980 INFYN and 98 in 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sossy Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) OK here's my shot at trying to explain this. GTA V is like a different movie that takes place in Los Santos. Still with me? Now since these are different movies you can't expect to run into the same characters from other stories just because they take place in the same setting. Take a breather now. It be stupid to tell a story with all these characters existing in the same place as it would raise too many questions. Since R* has no interest in rehashing old storylines you thus get an "alternate universe". Yep a universe that doesn't have all the big events from the SanAn storyline, What you're talking about is different movies sharing the same real world city, like how Godfather and Bronx Tale both share New York. Los Santos is a fictional location thats part of its author's canon/lore (whether he likes it or not). Its like saying you can set a story in The Shire and make no reference to Hobbits or anything Tolkienesque and expect it to hang together. And it isnt stupid to tell a story that way, its just expansive and in need of some proof-reading. And mentioning or even cameoing characters from past iterations is hardly rehashing old storylines. Whats actually going on is just the laziest form of retconning by way of simply getting rid of everyone that came before. Edited September 9, 2013 by Sossy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPAH JD Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 And if Grove Street and CJ isn't mentioned or even hinted at via an easter egg in GTA5 will the San Andreas fanboys cry? will they send death threats to Rockstar "y did u do dis Rokstarr? we luv CJ!", form a cult, war green robes and burn your copies of GTAV which has been crudely built together into a giant Wicker Man, with Sam and Dan Houser locked inside. Will they watch this Wicker Man burn, form a circle around the burning heal, hold each others hands and sing the GTA San Andreas theme tune. Personally I hope there is no mention of Grove Street, CJ or that game from 2005, just to p*ss the San Andreas clique right off. Grow up. You're already overreacting more than anyone else in this thread did. People are asking for a mention of CJ. It's not wrong. The fact you care that much about it, is actually weird, given the fact you supposedly hate it so much. mrob23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrAnomalous Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 SideBurn dewd is relentless. I guess you got give him that much. Completely stupid argument, but you gotta give credit where credit is due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rklc Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 SideburnGuru, you are starting to top greenrock. You don't want to do that. I'll start using your "logic" now. Grove Street Families cant use the colour green in the HD universe because they did in the 3D universe, right? Well, I guess cars shouldn't have tires or doors because that was in the 3D universe. The US Bank Tower shouldn't return either because it was in the 3D universe. Why stop there? Lets remove all the windows from the HD universe because windows existed in the 3D universe as well. So as you can see, all of your posts sound utterly retarded. No, that's the logic of every ass here. I have no issue with them doing that personally, but I'm striking down on that "NOTHING FROM THE OTHER UNIVERSE" rule, that gets so frequently changed without the users on this board. So tell me, what would honestly stop them from doing some kind of MENTIONING. NOT f*ckING APPEARANCE, of CJ in this game? It doesn't have to be the CJ we all knew. It could just be in the dialouge about CJ, or Big Smoke. As you said though, it's just a name, right? Doesn't mean they can't use it. Look at this whole entire topic and find how many people are agreeing with your flawed idea. and the video he posted how is that rockstar way of not wanting to let go of them? It says RIP forf*ckinsakes. stfu already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realistic Steak Cult Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Best thread ever lol. Pin this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fail_At_GTA Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 SideburnGuru, you are starting to top greenrock. You don't want to do that. I'll start using your "logic" now. Grove Street Families cant use the colour green in the HD universe because they did in the 3D universe, right? Well, I guess cars shouldn't have tires or doors because that was in the 3D universe. The US Bank Tower shouldn't return either because it was in the 3D universe. Why stop there? Lets remove all the windows from the HD universe because windows existed in the 3D universe as well. So as you can see, all of your posts sound utterly retarded. No, that's the logic of every ass here. I have no issue with them doing that personally, but I'm striking down on that "NOTHING FROM THE OTHER UNIVERSE" rule, that gets so frequently changed without the users on this board. So tell me, what would honestly stop them from doing some kind of MENTIONING. NOT f*ckING APPEARANCE, of CJ in this game? It doesn't have to be the CJ we all knew. It could just be in the dialouge about CJ, or Big Smoke. As you said though, it's just a name, right? Doesn't mean they can't use it. They cant talk about a character who didn't exist. Did anyone from GTA 4 talk about Claude? The answer is no. Claude doesn't exist in GTA 4, just like CJ doesn't exist in GTA 5. How can you possibly make a reference to something that doesn't exist? Also, once again, you missed my point. I never said names of characters cross universes. If you actually knew how to read, you would see I clearly said BRANDS. Lazlow is a radio brand name. Grove Street Families is a gang brand name. CJ and Big Smoke are character names. Brands cross universes, but names of specific storyline characters wont cross universes. Buildings can cross universes as well, as they are based on real life things. I recommend you do more research instead of posting the same link to a page about Lazlow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPAH JD Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 SideburnGuru, you are starting to top greenrock. You don't want to do that. I'll start using your "logic" now. Grove Street Families cant use the colour green in the HD universe because they did in the 3D universe, right? Well, I guess cars shouldn't have tires or doors because that was in the 3D universe. The US Bank Tower shouldn't return either because it was in the 3D universe. Why stop there? Lets remove all the windows from the HD universe because windows existed in the 3D universe as well. So as you can see, all of your posts sound utterly retarded. No, that's the logic of every ass here. I have no issue with them doing that personally, but I'm striking down on that "NOTHING FROM THE OTHER UNIVERSE" rule, that gets so frequently changed without the users on this board. So tell me, what would honestly stop them from doing some kind of MENTIONING. NOT f*ckING APPEARANCE, of CJ in this game? It doesn't have to be the CJ we all knew. It could just be in the dialouge about CJ, or Big Smoke. As you said though, it's just a name, right? Doesn't mean they can't use it. Look at this whole entire topic and find how many people are agreeing with your flawed idea. and the video he posted how is that rockstar way of not wanting to let go of them? It says RIP forf*ckinsakes. stfu already. If R* wanted to let it go, they would've have included Grove St in the first place. Nor would they have brought back the two exclusives parents in one of those pre-order packs. Nor would they give Niko, Claude's clothing. It's convient how and when R* chooses to "let things go". When it comes to sales though, you better be damned if they won't bring it back. SideBurn dewd is relentless. I guess you got give him that much. Completely stupid argument, but you gotta give credit where credit is due. Stupid argument? Amazing. It seems more like a circle of stupidity coming from everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooz Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) It would be cool if R* added a celebrity character that looks like CJ but of course isn't him with a different and history and we'd have to do some missions for him and hear some references to SA, it would be more like an easter egg but would be dope. Edited September 9, 2013 by TomiaxMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rklc Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 You can talk about Claude and Tommy as much as you want. You can say that Vice City was your favorite game and that would be cool but as soon as you mention CJ and/or San Andreas, these guys start attacking you. Stop telling us to let it go, it's part of the lore of the franchise. Just because Rockstar pushed their imaginary reset button does not mean that we're going to pretend that San Andreas never happened. It's reasonable that there should be some reference to CJ even in this new version of Los Santos. this We aren't pretending like it didnt happen. It did happen. But not in this dimension =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_p1980 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) And if Grove Street and CJ isn't mentioned or even hinted at via an easter egg in GTA5 will the San Andreas fanboys cry? will they send death threats to Rockstar "y did u do dis Rokstarr? we luv CJ!", form a cult, war green robes and burn your copies of GTAV which has been crudely built together into a giant Wicker Man, with Sam and Dan Houser locked inside. Will they watch this Wicker Man burn, form a circle around the burning heal, hold each others hands and sing the GTA San Andreas theme tune. Personally I hope there is no mention of Grove Street, CJ or that game from 2005, just to p*ss the San Andreas clique right off. Grow up. You're already overreacting more than anyone else in this thread did. People are asking for a mention of CJ. It's not wrong. The fact you care that much about it, is actually weird, given the fact you supposedly hate it so much. I don't hate GTA SA, I actually enjoyed it. But the past is the past, it's gone. That was then, and this is the now and a different gaming universe as everyone at Rockstar and in this thread has stated, yet there is a minority of people who seem to want to hang onto something from 2005. And lets just say CJ/Grove Street was mentioned, people will still lose their minds over it because the mention CJ/Grove Street, wasn't the one they wanted or didn't fit etc. I'm a big Vice City fan, huge in fact. But Im not bothered about a mention of the past in a future game, why? because I can accept it's a different gaming universe. I won't cry over it. Edited September 9, 2013 by tom_p1980 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPAH JD Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 SideburnGuru, you are starting to top greenrock. You don't want to do that. I'll start using your "logic" now. Grove Street Families cant use the colour green in the HD universe because they did in the 3D universe, right? Well, I guess cars shouldn't have tires or doors because that was in the 3D universe. The US Bank Tower shouldn't return either because it was in the 3D universe. Why stop there? Lets remove all the windows from the HD universe because windows existed in the 3D universe as well. So as you can see, all of your posts sound utterly retarded. No, that's the logic of every ass here. I have no issue with them doing that personally, but I'm striking down on that "NOTHING FROM THE OTHER UNIVERSE" rule, that gets so frequently changed without the users on this board. So tell me, what would honestly stop them from doing some kind of MENTIONING. NOT f*ckING APPEARANCE, of CJ in this game? It doesn't have to be the CJ we all knew. It could just be in the dialouge about CJ, or Big Smoke. As you said though, it's just a name, right? Doesn't mean they can't use it. They cant talk about a character who didn't exist. Did anyone from GTA 4 talk about Claude? The answer is no. Claude doesn't exist in GTA 4, just like CJ doesn't exist in GTA 5. How can you possibly make a reference to something that doesn't exist? Also, once again, you missed my point. I never said names of characters cross universes. If you actually knew how to read, you would see I clearly said BRANDS. Lazlow is a radio brand name. Grove Street Families is a gang brand name. CJ and Big Smoke are character names. Brands cross universes, but names of specific storyline characters wont cross universes. Buildings can cross universes as well, as they are based on real life things. I recommend you do more research instead of posting the same link to a page about Lazlow. Again, you said names. What's to say they were talking about that CJ, and not another CJ? Just like those people on the walls, right? They could just be talking about the myth. Y'know, the video YOU posted, right? Where it has all their names on the walls. What's to stop two civilians to talk about a "Man named CJ" or "Man named Big Smoke". Could be completely different people. Or they could be talking about a myth/urban legend. Yeah, and if you learned how to click a link and read the damn story about how Lazlow's story still carries on from 3D to HD, you'd understand too. Instead, you rely on witty remarks. It's cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasir_Jones Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Please explain to me how can CJ live in two different San Andreas, one with three cities and one with only one city and countryside? Go on... Explain to me how Groove Street apparently is going to look the same, but amazingly be in two different San Andreas. Going off what someone posted on IGN said about it. Yeah, smart ass, no one really knows how this is all going down. And from what IGN said, it's groove street. You'll know it. So, it's technically a contradiction. Infact, if this is a whole other universe, why even include The Ballas? Or why even include Lazlow? Why the hell does Lazlow get to return, I'd love to see a CJ instead of wack a** Lazlow. Two different universes my a**. Same city, just 20+ years later, f*ck yo universes, R* is making a db decision with this universe crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPAH JD Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 And if Grove Street and CJ isn't mentioned or even hinted at via an easter egg in GTA5 will the San Andreas fanboys cry? will they send death threats to Rockstar "y did u do dis Rokstarr? we luv CJ!", form a cult, war green robes and burn your copies of GTAV which has been crudely built together into a giant Wicker Man, with Sam and Dan Houser locked inside. Will they watch this Wicker Man burn, form a circle around the burning heal, hold each others hands and sing the GTA San Andreas theme tune. Personally I hope there is no mention of Grove Street, CJ or that game from 2005, just to p*ss the San Andreas clique right off. Grow up. You're already overreacting more than anyone else in this thread did. People are asking for a mention of CJ. It's not wrong. The fact you care that much about it, is actually weird, given the fact you supposedly hate it so much. I don't hate GTA SA, I actually enjoyed it. But the past is the past, it's gone. That was then, and this is the now and a different gaming universe as everyone at Rockstar and in this thread has stated, yet there is a minority of people who seem to want to hang onto something from 2005. And lets just say CJ/Grove Street was mentioned, people will still lose their minds over it because the mention CJ/Grove Street, wasn't the one they wanted or didn't fit etc. Jumping to conclusions. This thread was meant to just be considered a "mention", until everyone else blew it out of porportion. I repeat myself. GTA goes back to the past, and mentions previous characters alot more than they should. The myths on the walls about the past protags who died. Niko getting Claud's clothing. Grove St even being mentioned in the game, as proved by the source I put up earlier. The fact that in one of the preorders, the parents are two former protags apparently. Yeah, R* acknowledges the past. As I said, they'll make subtle hints at other universes when it's convient for them. And it's their game, that's fine. But let's not pretend the universe rule wasn't broken a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rklc Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Please explain to me how can CJ live in two different San Andreas, one with three cities and one with only one city and countryside? Go on... Explain to me how Groove Street apparently is going to look the same, but amazingly be in two different San Andreas. Going off what someone posted on IGN said about it. Yeah, smart ass, no one really knows how this is all going down. And from what IGN said, it's groove street. You'll know it. So, it's technically a contradiction. Infact, if this is a whole other universe, why even include The Ballas? Or why even include Lazlow? Why the hell does Lazlow get to return, I'd love to see a CJ instead of wack a** Lazlow. Two different universes my a**. Same city, just 20+ years later, f*ck yo universes, R* is making a db decision with this universe crap. Yeah, and they changed GTA 3 LC into GTA IV LC in just 7 years! f*ckin idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPAH JD Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Please explain to me how can CJ live in two different San Andreas, one with three cities and one with only one city and countryside? Go on... Explain to me how Groove Street apparently is going to look the same, but amazingly be in two different San Andreas. Going off what someone posted on IGN said about it. Yeah, smart ass, no one really knows how this is all going down. And from what IGN said, it's groove street. You'll know it. So, it's technically a contradiction. Infact, if this is a whole other universe, why even include The Ballas? Or why even include Lazlow? Why the hell does Lazlow get to return, I'd love to see a CJ instead of wack a** Lazlow. Two different universes my a**. Same city, just 20+ years later, f*ck yo universes, R* is making a db decision with this universe crap. Yeah, and they changed GTA 3 LC into GTA IV LC in just 7 years! f*ckin idiot. Did you just conviently jump around everything the guy you quoted brought up, or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_p1980 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Please explain to me how can CJ live in two different San Andreas, one with three cities and one with only one city and countryside? Go on... Explain to me how Groove Street apparently is going to look the same, but amazingly be in two different San Andreas. Going off what someone posted on IGN said about it. Yeah, smart ass, no one really knows how this is all going down. And from what IGN said, it's groove street. You'll know it. So, it's technically a contradiction. Infact, if this is a whole other universe, why even include The Ballas? Or why even include Lazlow? Why the hell does Lazlow get to return, I'd love to see a CJ instead of wack a** Lazlow. Two different universes my a**. Same city, just 20+ years later, f*ck yo universes, R* is making a db decision with this universe crap. Why Lazlow? Because he's been in nearly all of the games, he is part of the fixtures and fittings. He's gone beyond just being a character on the radio. CJ the whiney ass moron was a character in one game. His story has been told, it's over. INFYN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrAnomalous Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Please explain to me how can CJ live in two different San Andreas, one with three cities and one with only one city and countryside? Go on... Explain to me how Groove Street apparently is going to look the same, but amazingly be in two different San Andreas. Going off what someone posted on IGN said about it. Yeah, smart ass, no one really knows how this is all going down. And from what IGN said, it's groove street. You'll know it. So, it's technically a contradiction. Infact, if this is a whole other universe, why even include The Ballas? Or why even include Lazlow? Why the hell does Lazlow get to return, I'd love to see a CJ instead of wack a** Lazlow. Two different universes my a**. Same city, just 20+ years later, f*ck yo universes, R* is making a db decision with this universe crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPAH JD Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Please explain to me how can CJ live in two different San Andreas, one with three cities and one with only one city and countryside? Go on... Explain to me how Groove Street apparently is going to look the same, but amazingly be in two different San Andreas. Going off what someone posted on IGN said about it. Yeah, smart ass, no one really knows how this is all going down. And from what IGN said, it's groove street. You'll know it. So, it's technically a contradiction. Infact, if this is a whole other universe, why even include The Ballas? Or why even include Lazlow? Why the hell does Lazlow get to return, I'd love to see a CJ instead of wack a** Lazlow. Two different universes my a**. Same city, just 20+ years later, f*ck yo universes, R* is making a db decision with this universe crap. Why Lazlow? Because he's been in nearly all of the games, he is part of the fixtures and fittings. He's gone beyond just being a character on the radio. CJ the whiney ass moron was a character in one game. His story has been told, it's over. Yeah. His mother died, he left the streets that raised him, he couldn't save his old family and friends from back-stabbing him, his "brothers" turned on him. He was just a whinny ass for no reason, right? That's irrelevant though. And no, he's a character on the radio too. Let's not do double standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realistic Steak Cult Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 LAZLOW HAS DIFFERENT STORIES IN HD AND SD UNVERSE ITS WRITTEN IN THE GODDAMN WIKI ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fail_At_GTA Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 SideburnGuru, you are starting to top greenrock. You don't want to do that. I'll start using your "logic" now. Grove Street Families cant use the colour green in the HD universe because they did in the 3D universe, right? Well, I guess cars shouldn't have tires or doors because that was in the 3D universe. The US Bank Tower shouldn't return either because it was in the 3D universe. Why stop there? Lets remove all the windows from the HD universe because windows existed in the 3D universe as well. So as you can see, all of your posts sound utterly retarded. No, that's the logic of every ass here. I have no issue with them doing that personally, but I'm striking down on that "NOTHING FROM THE OTHER UNIVERSE" rule, that gets so frequently changed without the users on this board. So tell me, what would honestly stop them from doing some kind of MENTIONING. NOT f*ckING APPEARANCE, of CJ in this game? It doesn't have to be the CJ we all knew. It could just be in the dialouge about CJ, or Big Smoke. As you said though, it's just a name, right? Doesn't mean they can't use it. They cant talk about a character who didn't exist. Did anyone from GTA 4 talk about Claude? The answer is no. Claude doesn't exist in GTA 4, just like CJ doesn't exist in GTA 5. How can you possibly make a reference to something that doesn't exist? Also, once again, you missed my point. I never said names of characters cross universes. If you actually knew how to read, you would see I clearly said BRANDS. Lazlow is a radio brand name. Grove Street Families is a gang brand name. CJ and Big Smoke are character names. Brands cross universes, but names of specific storyline characters wont cross universes. Buildings can cross universes as well, as they are based on real life things. I recommend you do more research instead of posting the same link to a page about Lazlow. Again, you said names. What's to say they were talking about that CJ, and not another CJ? Just like those people on the walls, right? They could just be talking about the myth. Y'know, the video YOU posted, right? Where it has all their names on the walls. What's to stop two civilians to talk about a "Man named CJ" or "Man named Big Smoke". Could be completely different people. Or they could be talking about a myth/urban legend. Yeah, and if you learned how to click a link and read the damn story about how Lazlow's story still carries on from 3D to HD, you'd understand too. Instead, you rely on witty remarks. It's cute. I didn't say names. I even put BRANDS in capitals, just so you could see it. Apparently that attempt to make you read has failed. Oh well. I didn't post a video. Once again, read the names of people who are posting things. I'm seeing a pattern here. If you read the wall, you would notice it also said Claude, Tommy, and I think Vic (VCS protag). And once again, character names don't cross universes. Lazlow was a radio brand name and he is also a reference to someone who works for Rockstar. Lazlow's story, as I mentioned before, can cross universes because he never appeared in the 3D era. Since he didn't appear in the flesh, he and his story can cross universes. If you actually read this, you will get a cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasir_Jones Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Please explain to me how can CJ live in two different San Andreas, one with three cities and one with only one city and countryside? Go on... Explain to me how Groove Street apparently is going to look the same, but amazingly be in two different San Andreas. Going off what someone posted on IGN said about it. Yeah, smart ass, no one really knows how this is all going down. And from what IGN said, it's groove street. You'll know it. So, it's technically a contradiction. Infact, if this is a whole other universe, why even include The Ballas? Or why even include Lazlow? Why the hell does Lazlow get to return, I'd love to see a CJ instead of wack a** Lazlow. Two different universes my a**. Same city, just 20+ years later, f*ck yo universes, R* is making a db decision with this universe crap. Why Lazlow? Because he's been in nearly all of the games, he is part of the fixtures and fittings. He's gone beyond just being a character on the radio. CJ the whiney ass moron was a character in one game. His story has been told, it's over. His whole story hasn't been told? You must be dumb. We don't know what happened after we left Los Santos (SA) back to LC. It's a mystery, R* wouldn't implement those messages about CJ and that big poster if his story is "over". Yeah he got rich and got b*tches but we don't know what he's up too now. Gta V could easily give out clues on to how his story ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPAH JD Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) LAZLOW HAS DIFFERENT STORIES IN HD AND SD UNVERSE ITS WRITTEN IN THE GODDAMN WIKI ! THEY'RE NOT EVEN DIFFERENT STORIES. They just make a huge damn jump. It's not like they're saying his origins have changed. Except in the HD version, he just has a reason for being an angst bastard. SideburnGuru, you are starting to top greenrock. You don't want to do that. I'll start using your "logic" now. Grove Street Families cant use the colour green in the HD universe because they did in the 3D universe, right? Well, I guess cars shouldn't have tires or doors because that was in the 3D universe. The US Bank Tower shouldn't return either because it was in the 3D universe. Why stop there? Lets remove all the windows from the HD universe because windows existed in the 3D universe as well. So as you can see, all of your posts sound utterly retarded. No, that's the logic of every ass here. I have no issue with them doing that personally, but I'm striking down on that "NOTHING FROM THE OTHER UNIVERSE" rule, that gets so frequently changed without the users on this board. So tell me, what would honestly stop them from doing some kind of MENTIONING. NOT f*ckING APPEARANCE, of CJ in this game? It doesn't have to be the CJ we all knew. It could just be in the dialouge about CJ, or Big Smoke. As you said though, it's just a name, right? Doesn't mean they can't use it. They cant talk about a character who didn't exist. Did anyone from GTA 4 talk about Claude? The answer is no. Claude doesn't exist in GTA 4, just like CJ doesn't exist in GTA 5. How can you possibly make a reference to something that doesn't exist? Also, once again, you missed my point. I never said names of characters cross universes. If you actually knew how to read, you would see I clearly said BRANDS. Lazlow is a radio brand name. Grove Street Families is a gang brand name. CJ and Big Smoke are character names. Brands cross universes, but names of specific storyline characters wont cross universes. Buildings can cross universes as well, as they are based on real life things. I recommend you do more research instead of posting the same link to a page about Lazlow. Again, you said names. What's to say they were talking about that CJ, and not another CJ? Just like those people on the walls, right? They could just be talking about the myth. Y'know, the video YOU posted, right? Where it has all their names on the walls. What's to stop two civilians to talk about a "Man named CJ" or "Man named Big Smoke". Could be completely different people. Or they could be talking about a myth/urban legend. Yeah, and if you learned how to click a link and read the damn story about how Lazlow's story still carries on from 3D to HD, you'd understand too. Instead, you rely on witty remarks. It's cute. I didn't say names. I even put BRANDS in capitals, just so you could see it. Apparently that attempt to make you read has failed. Oh well. I didn't post a video. Once again, read the names of people who are posting things. I'm seeing a pattern here. If you read the wall, you would notice it also said Claude, Tommy, and I think Vic (VCS protag). And once again, character names don't cross universes. Lazlow was a radio brand name and he is also a reference to someone who works for Rockstar. Lazlow's story, as I mentioned before, can cross universes because he never appeared in the 3D era. Since he didn't appear in the flesh, he and his story can cross universes. If you actually read this, you will get a cookie. Yeah, don't worry champ, I read it. He's not a BRAND name. Sooner you realize that, the better you'll be. He's a character. R* pretty much considers him a character too. He's a radio host. He's a character. He is not the radio station. He is the character who has amazingly moved from station to station to broadcast his ranting. Once again, I ask you the harm of random civilians mentioning "A ,man named CJ." CJ is a common name. It would be a nod towards the people constantly wanting him. People should realize, I'm not asking for anything spectacular. I'm asking for them to pull what they did with GTA 4. Names. They don't have to show them in character. I'm asking for names. Easter eggs, like everyone else throws around. Two civilians in a convo, and they bring up "The CJ myth." or "That one guy named CJ". Just an old nod towards the fans. Is there really much harm in that? Just answer me that. Edited September 9, 2013 by SideburnGuru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realistic Steak Cult Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) Its up to player to use his imagination to complete his story. Just like we dont know how Tommy continued his life or Claude. And again, Lazlow has different storylines. He wasnt physically in previous games. He is working with R* since beginning. Its a nod to have him in the game. Hes real person, CJ is not. Edited September 9, 2013 by Jesse Pinkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fail_At_GTA Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 LAZLOW HAS DIFFERENT STORIES IN HD AND SD UNVERSE ITS WRITTEN IN THE GODDAMN WIKI ! THEY'RE NOT EVEN DIFFERENT STORIES. They just make a huge damn jump. It's not like they're saying his origins have changed. Except in the HD version, he just has a reason for being an angst bastard. SideburnGuru, you are starting to top greenrock. You don't want to do that. I'll start using your "logic" now. Grove Street Families cant use the colour green in the HD universe because they did in the 3D universe, right? Well, I guess cars shouldn't have tires or doors because that was in the 3D universe. The US Bank Tower shouldn't return either because it was in the 3D universe. Why stop there? Lets remove all the windows from the HD universe because windows existed in the 3D universe as well. So as you can see, all of your posts sound utterly retarded. No, that's the logic of every ass here. I have no issue with them doing that personally, but I'm striking down on that "NOTHING FROM THE OTHER UNIVERSE" rule, that gets so frequently changed without the users on this board. So tell me, what would honestly stop them from doing some kind of MENTIONING. NOT f*ckING APPEARANCE, of CJ in this game? It doesn't have to be the CJ we all knew. It could just be in the dialouge about CJ, or Big Smoke. As you said though, it's just a name, right? Doesn't mean they can't use it. They cant talk about a character who didn't exist. Did anyone from GTA 4 talk about Claude? The answer is no. Claude doesn't exist in GTA 4, just like CJ doesn't exist in GTA 5. How can you possibly make a reference to something that doesn't exist? Also, once again, you missed my point. I never said names of characters cross universes. If you actually knew how to read, you would see I clearly said BRANDS. Lazlow is a radio brand name. Grove Street Families is a gang brand name. CJ and Big Smoke are character names. Brands cross universes, but names of specific storyline characters wont cross universes. Buildings can cross universes as well, as they are based on real life things. I recommend you do more research instead of posting the same link to a page about Lazlow. Again, you said names. What's to say they were talking about that CJ, and not another CJ? Just like those people on the walls, right? They could just be talking about the myth. Y'know, the video YOU posted, right? Where it has all their names on the walls. What's to stop two civilians to talk about a "Man named CJ" or "Man named Big Smoke". Could be completely different people. Or they could be talking about a myth/urban legend. Yeah, and if you learned how to click a link and read the damn story about how Lazlow's story still carries on from 3D to HD, you'd understand too. Instead, you rely on witty remarks. It's cute. I didn't say names. I even put BRANDS in capitals, just so you could see it. Apparently that attempt to make you read has failed. Oh well. I didn't post a video. Once again, read the names of people who are posting things. I'm seeing a pattern here. If you read the wall, you would notice it also said Claude, Tommy, and I think Vic (VCS protag). And once again, character names don't cross universes. Lazlow was a radio brand name and he is also a reference to someone who works for Rockstar. Lazlow's story, as I mentioned before, can cross universes because he never appeared in the 3D era. Since he didn't appear in the flesh, he and his story can cross universes. If you actually read this, you will get a cookie. Yeah, don't worry champ, I read it. He's not a BRAND name. Sooner you realize that, the better you'll be. He's a character. R* pretty much considers him a character too. He's a radio host. He's a character. He is not the radio station. He is the character who has amazingly moved from station to station to broadcast his ranting. Once again, I ask you the harm of random civilians mentioning "A ,man named CJ." CJ is a common name. It would be a nod towards the people constantly wanting him. Do I need to start putting all keywords in capitals for you? Lazlow WAS a radio brand name. I mentioned earlier that he appears as a character in GTA 5. I'm asking you to read, but you seem to skip over everything. No cookie for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPAH JD Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Its up to player to use his imagination to complete his story. Just like we dont know how Tommy continued his life or Claude. And again, Lazlow has different storylines. He wasnt physically in previous games. He is working with R* since beginning. Its a nod to have him in the game. Hes real person, CJ is not. He's a real person, AND a character in GTA. I thought he was a brand. Wasn't it considered amongst you all he was a brand, nothing more, nothing less? Why does a Brand have a history in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPAH JD Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) LAZLOW HAS DIFFERENT STORIES IN HD AND SD UNVERSE ITS WRITTEN IN THE GODDAMN WIKI ! THEY'RE NOT EVEN DIFFERENT STORIES. They just make a huge damn jump. It's not like they're saying his origins have changed. Except in the HD version, he just has a reason for being an angst bastard. SideburnGuru, you are starting to top greenrock. You don't want to do that. I'll start using your "logic" now. Grove Street Families cant use the colour green in the HD universe because they did in the 3D universe, right? Well, I guess cars shouldn't have tires or doors because that was in the 3D universe. The US Bank Tower shouldn't return either because it was in the 3D universe. Why stop there? Lets remove all the windows from the HD universe because windows existed in the 3D universe as well. So as you can see, all of your posts sound utterly retarded. No, that's the logic of every ass here. I have no issue with them doing that personally, but I'm striking down on that "NOTHING FROM THE OTHER UNIVERSE" rule, that gets so frequently changed without the users on this board. So tell me, what would honestly stop them from doing some kind of MENTIONING. NOT f*ckING APPEARANCE, of CJ in this game? It doesn't have to be the CJ we all knew. It could just be in the dialouge about CJ, or Big Smoke. As you said though, it's just a name, right? Doesn't mean they can't use it. They cant talk about a character who didn't exist. Did anyone from GTA 4 talk about Claude? The answer is no. Claude doesn't exist in GTA 4, just like CJ doesn't exist in GTA 5. How can you possibly make a reference to something that doesn't exist? Also, once again, you missed my point. I never said names of characters cross universes. If you actually knew how to read, you would see I clearly said BRANDS. Lazlow is a radio brand name. Grove Street Families is a gang brand name. CJ and Big Smoke are character names. Brands cross universes, but names of specific storyline characters wont cross universes. Buildings can cross universes as well, as they are based on real life things. I recommend you do more research instead of posting the same link to a page about Lazlow. Again, you said names. What's to say they were talking about that CJ, and not another CJ? Just like those people on the walls, right? They could just be talking about the myth. Y'know, the video YOU posted, right? Where it has all their names on the walls. What's to stop two civilians to talk about a "Man named CJ" or "Man named Big Smoke". Could be completely different people. Or they could be talking about a myth/urban legend. Yeah, and if you learned how to click a link and read the damn story about how Lazlow's story still carries on from 3D to HD, you'd understand too. Instead, you rely on witty remarks. It's cute. I didn't say names. I even put BRANDS in capitals, just so you could see it. Apparently that attempt to make you read has failed. Oh well. I didn't post a video. Once again, read the names of people who are posting things. I'm seeing a pattern here. If you read the wall, you would notice it also said Claude, Tommy, and I think Vic (VCS protag). And once again, character names don't cross universes. Lazlow was a radio brand name and he is also a reference to someone who works for Rockstar. Lazlow's story, as I mentioned before, can cross universes because he never appeared in the 3D era. Since he didn't appear in the flesh, he and his story can cross universes. If you actually read this, you will get a cookie. Yeah, don't worry champ, I read it. He's not a BRAND name. Sooner you realize that, the better you'll be. He's a character. R* pretty much considers him a character too. He's a radio host. He's a character. He is not the radio station. He is the character who has amazingly moved from station to station to broadcast his ranting. Once again, I ask you the harm of random civilians mentioning "A ,man named CJ." CJ is a common name. It would be a nod towards the people constantly wanting him. Do I need to start putting all keywords in capitals for you? Lazlow WAS a radio brand name. I mentioned earlier that he appears as a character in GTA 5. I'm asking you to read, but you seem to skip over everything. No cookie for you. Yeah, you wanna talk about reading? You're being more dense than I am. He WAS a brand name. It DID change, after GTA 3. When he became a character with a story. He stopped being a brand name there. He became a character. Also, I'm asking you to read, AND ANSWER. Comprehend that? ANSWER. Answer me, would two random civilians bringing up the name "CJ", in some random form be that much of harm? Would it really make your universe come shattering down? Answer the damn question. And yes, this is going to be a double post, because I messed up with this one and forgot to edit this point into the previous post. Edited September 9, 2013 by SideburnGuru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realistic Steak Cult Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I love how you went from - "CJ will be in the game" over " I hope they will mention him in the game " to " I hope some random ped will mention random name CJ" I seriously hope you are just a bad troll, otherwise I suggest you to seek proffesional help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fail_At_GTA Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 LAZLOW HAS DIFFERENT STORIES IN HD AND SD UNVERSE ITS WRITTEN IN THE GODDAMN WIKI ! THEY'RE NOT EVEN DIFFERENT STORIES. They just make a huge damn jump. It's not like they're saying his origins have changed. Except in the HD version, he just has a reason for being an angst bastard. SideburnGuru, you are starting to top greenrock. You don't want to do that. I'll start using your "logic" now. Grove Street Families cant use the colour green in the HD universe because they did in the 3D universe, right? Well, I guess cars shouldn't have tires or doors because that was in the 3D universe. The US Bank Tower shouldn't return either because it was in the 3D universe. Why stop there? Lets remove all the windows from the HD universe because windows existed in the 3D universe as well. So as you can see, all of your posts sound utterly retarded. No, that's the logic of every ass here. I have no issue with them doing that personally, but I'm striking down on that "NOTHING FROM THE OTHER UNIVERSE" rule, that gets so frequently changed without the users on this board. So tell me, what would honestly stop them from doing some kind of MENTIONING. NOT f*ckING APPEARANCE, of CJ in this game? It doesn't have to be the CJ we all knew. It could just be in the dialouge about CJ, or Big Smoke. As you said though, it's just a name, right? Doesn't mean they can't use it. They cant talk about a character who didn't exist. Did anyone from GTA 4 talk about Claude? The answer is no. Claude doesn't exist in GTA 4, just like CJ doesn't exist in GTA 5. How can you possibly make a reference to something that doesn't exist? Also, once again, you missed my point. I never said names of characters cross universes. If you actually knew how to read, you would see I clearly said BRANDS. Lazlow is a radio brand name. Grove Street Families is a gang brand name. CJ and Big Smoke are character names. Brands cross universes, but names of specific storyline characters wont cross universes. Buildings can cross universes as well, as they are based on real life things. I recommend you do more research instead of posting the same link to a page about Lazlow. Again, you said names. What's to say they were talking about that CJ, and not another CJ? Just like those people on the walls, right? They could just be talking about the myth. Y'know, the video YOU posted, right? Where it has all their names on the walls. What's to stop two civilians to talk about a "Man named CJ" or "Man named Big Smoke". Could be completely different people. Or they could be talking about a myth/urban legend. Yeah, and if you learned how to click a link and read the damn story about how Lazlow's story still carries on from 3D to HD, you'd understand too. Instead, you rely on witty remarks. It's cute. I didn't say names. I even put BRANDS in capitals, just so you could see it. Apparently that attempt to make you read has failed. Oh well. I didn't post a video. Once again, read the names of people who are posting things. I'm seeing a pattern here. If you read the wall, you would notice it also said Claude, Tommy, and I think Vic (VCS protag). And once again, character names don't cross universes. Lazlow was a radio brand name and he is also a reference to someone who works for Rockstar. Lazlow's story, as I mentioned before, can cross universes because he never appeared in the 3D era. Since he didn't appear in the flesh, he and his story can cross universes. If you actually read this, you will get a cookie. Yeah, don't worry champ, I read it. He's not a BRAND name. Sooner you realize that, the better you'll be. He's a character. R* pretty much considers him a character too. He's a radio host. He's a character. He is not the radio station. He is the character who has amazingly moved from station to station to broadcast his ranting. Once again, I ask you the harm of random civilians mentioning "A ,man named CJ." CJ is a common name. It would be a nod towards the people constantly wanting him. Do I need to start putting all keywords in capitals for you? Lazlow WAS a radio brand name. I mentioned earlier that he appears as a character in GTA 5. I'm asking you to read, but you seem to skip over everything. No cookie for you. Yeah, you wanna talk about reading? You're being more dense than I am. He WAS a brand name. It DID change, after GTA 3. When he became a character with a story. He stopped being a brand name there. He became a character. Cutting the post off where I stopped reading. To be a character, they must appear in the flesh. Lazlow didn't appear in the flesh until GTA 5 on Fame or Shame. Since he appeared in the flesh, he's officially a character rather than a radio brand name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPAH JD Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 @Jesse You mean, after the fact everyone else misinterepted the meaning of the thread to begin with and had to slam a fist down OP's throat for dare mentioning CJ? LAZLOW HAS DIFFERENT STORIES IN HD AND SD UNVERSE ITS WRITTEN IN THE GODDAMN WIKI ! THEY'RE NOT EVEN DIFFERENT STORIES. They just make a huge damn jump. It's not like they're saying his origins have changed. Except in the HD version, he just has a reason for being an angst bastard. SideburnGuru, you are starting to top greenrock. You don't want to do that. I'll start using your "logic" now. Grove Street Families cant use the colour green in the HD universe because they did in the 3D universe, right? Well, I guess cars shouldn't have tires or doors because that was in the 3D universe. The US Bank Tower shouldn't return either because it was in the 3D universe. Why stop there? Lets remove all the windows from the HD universe because windows existed in the 3D universe as well. So as you can see, all of your posts sound utterly retarded. No, that's the logic of every ass here. I have no issue with them doing that personally, but I'm striking down on that "NOTHING FROM THE OTHER UNIVERSE" rule, that gets so frequently changed without the users on this board. So tell me, what would honestly stop them from doing some kind of MENTIONING. NOT f*ckING APPEARANCE, of CJ in this game? It doesn't have to be the CJ we all knew. It could just be in the dialouge about CJ, or Big Smoke. As you said though, it's just a name, right? Doesn't mean they can't use it. They cant talk about a character who didn't exist. Did anyone from GTA 4 talk about Claude? The answer is no. Claude doesn't exist in GTA 4, just like CJ doesn't exist in GTA 5. How can you possibly make a reference to something that doesn't exist? Also, once again, you missed my point. I never said names of characters cross universes. If you actually knew how to read, you would see I clearly said BRANDS. Lazlow is a radio brand name. Grove Street Families is a gang brand name. CJ and Big Smoke are character names. Brands cross universes, but names of specific storyline characters wont cross universes. Buildings can cross universes as well, as they are based on real life things. I recommend you do more research instead of posting the same link to a page about Lazlow. Again, you said names. What's to say they were talking about that CJ, and not another CJ? Just like those people on the walls, right? They could just be talking about the myth. Y'know, the video YOU posted, right? Where it has all their names on the walls. What's to stop two civilians to talk about a "Man named CJ" or "Man named Big Smoke". Could be completely different people. Or they could be talking about a myth/urban legend. Yeah, and if you learned how to click a link and read the damn story about how Lazlow's story still carries on from 3D to HD, you'd understand too. Instead, you rely on witty remarks. It's cute. I didn't say names. I even put BRANDS in capitals, just so you could see it. Apparently that attempt to make you read has failed. Oh well. I didn't post a video. Once again, read the names of people who are posting things. I'm seeing a pattern here. If you read the wall, you would notice it also said Claude, Tommy, and I think Vic (VCS protag). And once again, character names don't cross universes. Lazlow was a radio brand name and he is also a reference to someone who works for Rockstar. Lazlow's story, as I mentioned before, can cross universes because he never appeared in the 3D era. Since he didn't appear in the flesh, he and his story can cross universes. If you actually read this, you will get a cookie. Yeah, don't worry champ, I read it. He's not a BRAND name. Sooner you realize that, the better you'll be. He's a character. R* pretty much considers him a character too. He's a radio host. He's a character. He is not the radio station. He is the character who has amazingly moved from station to station to broadcast his ranting. Once again, I ask you the harm of random civilians mentioning "A ,man named CJ." CJ is a common name. It would be a nod towards the people constantly wanting him. Do I need to start putting all keywords in capitals for you? Lazlow WAS a radio brand name. I mentioned earlier that he appears as a character in GTA 5. I'm asking you to read, but you seem to skip over everything. No cookie for you. Yeah, you wanna talk about reading? You're being more dense than I am. He WAS a brand name. It DID change, after GTA 3. When he became a character with a story. He stopped being a brand name there. He became a character. Cutting the post off where I stopped reading. To be a character, they must appear in the flesh. Lazlow didn't appear in the flesh until GTA 5 on Fame or Shame. Since he appeared in the flesh, he's officially a character rather than a radio brand name. Yeah, of course you did. Here, I'll ignore your post now. Since you're going to ignore the question "WOULD IT SHATTER YOUR UNIVERSE IF THEY DID ONE LITTLE MENTIONING OF A MAN NAMED CJ?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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