DEALUX Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I drove for the first time in the city two days ago and it was much better\easier than I expected. For some reason I always seem to be nervous before I get behind the wheel, but once I start driving I am the calmest I have ever been. This happens because I have to really focus on what's happening when I drive and I become very calm as a result. It's like meditation for me. The Audiophile Thread XB271HU | TESORO Gram XS | Xtrfy MZ1 | Xbox Elite v2 | Hifiman Sundara | Fiio K9 Pro i7 4790K 4.4 GHz | GTX 1080 Ti | 32 GB Crucial DDR3 | ADATA 256GB | Samsung 860 PRO 2TB Xbox | Xbox 360 | Xbox Series X | PS2 | PS3 | Google Pixel 6 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) Rule #1: Men drive “so the woman knows where his hands are.” Driving schools don’t teach basic driving, on stick shifts, because it is very expensive to repair manual transmissions. Special class held for stick training. About the ‘Driving Test’ with the vehicle (in the 60s): You drive around the block and parallel park. Marks for adjusting the seat and mirrors, looking before pulling away from the curb, using the mirrors while driving, speed maintenance. parking postion and distance from curb. No seatbelts in those days. However for the motorcycle endorsement, we had to accelerate on a 50 yard straight line course and brake quickly so as to not hit the Inspector (who stood at the end of the course), then negotiate a surpintine cone course as slowly as possible. The final bit was to drive to the end of the block and return alive. It was raining the day I took my test. Seat belts? In the days when I and my friends were first driving there weren’t any. But, I had a Renault Daphine which did have them. We all used them. They were so much more comfortable than bouncing around. Side note: I once had a passenger who got really angry at me because I would not look at her when talking while I was driving. Best accident I wasn’t in: It was snowing. A collision was spread across the Interstate Highway on a curving bridge. I stopped a good distance away after pulling to the rail. I looked in the mirror and saw a tractor trailer coming fast (too fast). I watched as the cab jackknived and the trailer was coming down the iced highway across all three traffic lanes. The cab hit the rail and bounced back across the road. It missed me, ending up along the rail on the other side. Edited September 16, 2013 by lil weasel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 The "stick shift is more expensive than automatic" stuff is pretty questionable IMO, manual boxes are much cheaper to build, repair and maintain. Much simpler by design and in many cases much less fragile. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 The "stick shift is more expensive than automatic" stuff is pretty questionable IMO, manual boxes are much cheaper to build, repair and maintain. Much simpler by design and in many cases much less fragile. When the students are grinding them all day long the manual doesn't last nearly as long as an automatic. Unless towing a trailer the automatic rarely needs service before 100,000 miles. It takes skill to get the best out of a manual. Anyone can make an automatic move without problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) I'd offer that, if students are consistently grinding gears, their teacher is a bit sh*t. As for automatics rarely needing servicing unless towing, perhaps in redneck yankland but in the rest of the world we have these things called "service intervals" that are between 15k and 30k depending on vehicle and transmission. I'll concede that manuals take more time to master but I really don't buy the whole idea of automatics being cheaper to maintain. Basically the entire world sans the US runs majority manuals. You may well go through more clutches, especially in a learner car, but a new clutch every 40,000 miles costs about the same as keeping to the service plan on an auto car, just without the chance of your torque converter suddenly deciding to pack in or the associated massive costs of changing one. Most cars you can do a clutch with basic tools by the side of the road. I wouldn't want to try that with most automatic cars. Edited September 15, 2013 by sivispacem AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mehoe123 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) Seeing how I was taught how to drive in my dads old 2007 Porsche 911 Carrera 4s manual. Ya I was scared, first car I ever drove at 15. I was terrified of wrecking it seeing how much he spent for it. That's the old girl. But now at 21 I am a fantastic driver, not afraid to drive anything. Edited September 15, 2013 by mehoe123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 If anyone else wants to laugh about the above poster lying about his vehicle history and otherwise making sh*t up, please follow the following link. http://gtaforums.com/topic/566400-list-of-vehicles-we-owned/?do=findComment&comment=1063336475 Dingdongs and GTA_stu 2 AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mehoe123 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 If anyone else wants to laugh about the above poster lying about his vehicle history and otherwise making sh*t up, please follow the following link. http://gtaforums.com/topic/566400-list-of-vehicles-we-owned/?do=findComment&comment=1063336475 Woah bud you have some jealousy issues, yes I admit you caught that my R8 only has a V8 whoopty doo. By the read of your signature your computer has more power then mine I'll give ya that. GTA36362355 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) If anyone else wants to laugh about the above poster lying about his vehicle history and otherwise making sh*t up, please follow the following link. http://gtaforums.com/topic/566400-list-of-vehicles-we-owned/?do=findComment&comment=1063336475 Woah bud you have some jealousy issues, yes I admit you caught that my R8 only has a V8 whoopty doo. By the read of your signature your computer has more power then mine I'll give ya that. Next time you pretend to own cars, don't use images that hotlink straight back to Ebay. Oh look, so does the Porsche! Seriously, if you want to pretend to have things on the internet, at least do a half-decent job of it. Edited September 15, 2013 by sivispacem trip 1 AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith John Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 If anyone else wants to laugh about the above poster lying about his vehicle history and otherwise making sh*t up, please follow the following link. http://gtaforums.com/topic/566400-list-of-vehicles-we-owned/?do=findComment&comment=1063336475 Haha busted! What a tosser. bash the fash m8s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 LOL. the backdrop isn't even consistent. the Dodge Ram is sitting in front of a completely different house than the Audi. totally busted. trip and Dingdongs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Oh shoot. That is funny stuff. I like to boast about how much I don't drive. I bough my car new in the fall of '98. I have yet to break 40k miles. Today I put a brand new battery in her and was the first time I started her in months. My crappy games at MyCrappyGames.com Free copy of Save The Puppies and Kittens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdongs Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) you need to stop being a pussy and just drive dude. eventually it becomes second nature. When I started driving my neighbor across the street said "in a month of driving consistently it'll be just like riding a bike" and he was absolutely right. Edited September 16, 2013 by Irviding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Let's face it American's are a Shiftless society, so Automatic Transmissions are the norm. Scheduled maintenance is something for the moderately rich. So other than L.O.F. most maintenance is left for the next buyer. Yes, the Redneck's and Motorhead's live in manual land, because they love puttin' the ride under the Oak tree for repairs and modifications. Yes, I imagine that in 'backwards' counties like the U.K. and most of the rest of the world a Manual Transmission is almost a must because, as said, roadside repairs may be a necessity what with a service centre not being on every corner. I consider the Clutch Pack a part of the Transmission, and therefore didn't make special mention of it in my previous posts. Regarding the Instructor being incompetent, a student doesn't need to grind the gears more than once when you have 60 or more students each doing it once. There is no way the Instructors can prevent it. And some student's are plainly the cause doing it multiple times. What do you expect of the Instructor, that (s)he should stomp the clutch foot of the student? U.S. cars have the clutch on the away side of the Passenger, and on the duel control cars the student isn't going to learn much with the Instructor interfering with the learning process. But, all this has little to do with the Fear of Driving, other than the worry of a breakdown on the highway. Edited September 16, 2013 by lil weasel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Agreed in regard to the US favouring the AT, as well as ignoring scheduled maintenance for the most part. Totally disagree in regard to there not being a service centre on every corner- in urban and suburban areas there are plenty and I reckon those people living in rural areas probably have less distance to travel to on than in the 'states. Hence why we don't really have a culture of tinkering ourselves. Have you ever, y'know, actually been outside of the 'states in order to make judgements like this? As for "grinding the gears" and other such malarkey, I genuinely don't think that instructor cars here in the UK get much more abuse than your average city runabout. Sure, shorter clutch life than vehicles used for long journeys, but clutches are service items anyway. I suppose it might be different here in that it is rare for instructors to actually own their own cars- many are leased. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Like I've previously stated in here, I cycle. I do prefer it, but there is one thing that a car definitely holds the advantage on. And that is the power, not raw horse power, my steely calves do just fine. I'm talking about the feeling of power. If someone cuts you off in a car you can aggressively honk your horn at them and get right up behind them and stuff. Trinkling your bell and gesticulating wildly in your fluorescent gear doesn't really have the same affect. Edited September 16, 2013 by GTA_stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA36362355 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) I am not scared to drive as long as the steering wheel is on the right side and not the wrong side. Edited September 16, 2013 by deepthroatgta6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcquiz Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Well I was when I was in driving school. I failed my driving test twice too. Then I got it so I could drive with my mother in the passegner seat. I drove like that to everywhere for about a month, passed my driving test and I have now driven alone for a week and actually I'm feeling really comfortable. I don't stall behind traffic lights, I spot dangers better and so on. Only problem is that when I get a bit distracted I can still f*ck up heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 If anyone else wants to laugh about the above poster lying about his vehicle history and otherwise making sh*t up, please follow the following link. http://gtaforums.com/topic/566400-list-of-vehicles-we-owned/?do=findComment&comment=1063336475 Woah bud you have some jealousy issues, yes I admit you caught that my R8 only has a V8 whoopty doo. By the read of your signature your computer has more power then mine I'll give ya that. Next time you pretend to own cars, don't use images that hotlink straight back to Ebay. Oh look, so does the Porsche! Seriously, if you want to pretend to have things on the internet, at least do a half-decent job of it. I just spat out my tea laughing at that sh*t! XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Unit_G_Unit Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 i dont like driving because i dont trust myself as im a bad driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEALUX Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 If someone cuts you off in a car you can aggressively honk your horn at them and get right up behind them and stuff. Except that you are not allowed to do that. I drove for the third time in the (busy) city today and I'm getting a lot better. The instructor didn't even have to intervene to correct me or anything like that. Seeing the other beginners drive as well made me realize that focusing and being calm is really important to drive well. The Audiophile Thread XB271HU | TESORO Gram XS | Xtrfy MZ1 | Xbox Elite v2 | Hifiman Sundara | Fiio K9 Pro i7 4790K 4.4 GHz | GTX 1080 Ti | 32 GB Crucial DDR3 | ADATA 256GB | Samsung 860 PRO 2TB Xbox | Xbox 360 | Xbox Series X | PS2 | PS3 | Google Pixel 6 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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