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Mr.Moffat

The Vape Topic

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Mr.Moffat

Just thought I'd post this to see what others around this form make of these devices.

 

For those who don't know, e cigs are small electronic devices that emit a water vapour that has nicotine added. they are a healthier alternative to traditional cigarettes.

Been using them myself for over 2 months and I haven't touched a real cigarette since nor do have any desire to do so and I feel like a million bucks, so far there has been no side effects from the e-cigs. plus the money im saving is a real bonus.

 

So anyone else tried them or like me actually have quit real cigs because of these?

 

P.s to anyone who is considering trying them out, DO NOT buy those cheap ones from petrol stations, buy a proper decent one for around €40, then after that intial investment it's only 2 to 5 euro to buy the liquid, which again should last for at least a week.

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Shoumaker

So it's something like this?

 

user posted image

 

I have to say this is the first time I've heard of these electronic cigarettes. Never smoked a normal cigarette in my life and I probably never will, just not interested in it.

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Mr.Moffat
So it's something like this?

 

user posted image

 

I have to say this is the first time I've heard of these electronic cigarettes. Never smoked a normal cigarette in my life and I probably never will, just not interested in it.

Pretty much, although the better ones look more like a large pen with a tank on the back, haha, i'll post a pic when I get time.

 

That's cool if you don't smoke, that's not what there meant for, they are for people who do smoke and just provide a better alternative.

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Harley

I had a drag of a friend's e-cig a few years ago. It tasted like popcorn.

 

You say the liquid lasts a week, how many 'cigarettes' is that?

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RoadRunner71

Aren't these to give up smoking?

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GrandMaster Smith

I bought one from the mini mart near by a while back and smoked nearly the entire thing in one night.

 

The battery died before I could finish all but a few drops but it definitely did not seem like 5 packs worth, and if it was then that can't be much better for my health either way. It was only $8 or so so much wasn't expected out of it.

 

 

I did enjoy it though, I like the smoother taste and the exhale is near odor-free.

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Mr.Moffat

 

I had a drag of a friend's e-cig a few years ago. It tasted like popcorn.

 

You say the liquid lasts a week, how many 'cigarettes' is that?

It all depends on how much you smoke, and the tanks come in all different sizes, the one I have atm holds 2.oML, which does me for most of the day, once its empty you jusrt unscrew the top and refill.

 

The thing about ecigs that unlike a normal cig, they don't burn out, you can just puff away on them all day (if you want, plus you won't feel like crap if you do chain smoke it) so that can lash through the stuff, but again if you buy a good quality e liquid ( the refills) and e cig, you'll be fine. the cheap ones claim to equal 40 normal cigs but that is complete BS.

 

As for the popcorn taste, ya there are a huge selection of eliquids in every type of flavour from tobacco to candyfloss! so your friend could have had a popcorn flavoured one tounge.gif on a more serious note, all eliquids taste diff, so two tobacco flavours will not taste the same, plus you can get ones that try to replicate diff tobacco types, eg rolling tobacco or say malboro red. you just need to experiment to find your prefeered choice.

 

It is different to normal smoking, but think of it as just changing brand. I would choose my ecig over a normal cig any day over a normal cig now, because I prefer the taste.

 

 

I bought one from the mini mart near by a while back and smoked nearly the entire thing in one night.

 

The battery died before I could finish all but a few drops but it definitely did not seem like 5 packs worth, and if it was then that can't be much better for my health either way. It was only $8 or so so much wasn't expected out of it.

 

 

I did enjoy it though, I like the smoother taste and the exhale is near odor-free.

 

Those are the crappy gas station ones I was warning about, they suck, as you said barely last the night for a proper smoker, and cost the same as a normal pack, so even more pointless, as I said just invest in a good one, and then tis only about €5 to buy a refill bottle of liquid.

They are healthier, all it is water vapour and nicotine and some flavorings that are commonly used in food. are they 100%% safe? we don't know yet, but they are much better than actual cigs. Plus I can voch, used to smoke 20 plus normal cigs a day, two months off the real fags and now now purley on the e cig, I feel much better and I chain smoke my e cig lol.

 

 

  Aren't these to give up smoking? 

More designed to offer a safer alternative to real cigs, they do not claim to help you quit. but plenty of people I know have quit because of them. I still use mine, but I have no desire for a real cig, and I can go for an entire day now without using my e cig and feel fine, where as before I would be in an awful mood if I din't have my ciggy.

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nightwalker83
So it's something like this?

 

user posted image

 

I have to say this is the first time I've heard of these electronic cigarettes. Never smoked a normal cigarette in my life and I probably never will, just not interested in it.

My uncle told me about them! He used to smoke cigarettes a lot.

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DEALUX

Sounds tempting. I like real cigarettes but I don't smoke anymore. How do these compare to real ones? What are the health disadvantages?

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Mr.Moffat
Sounds tempting. I like real cigarettes but I don't smoke anymore. How do these compare to real ones? What are the health disadvantages?

So far nothing, they have just nicotine and flavouring. And nicotine itself is the same as caffine nol danger.

But if you don't smoke anymore, I'd say stick to that it's my ultimate goal icon14.gif

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ExtremoMania
How much are they if you buy them, same as the normal cigarette and how effective it is?

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rudy

 

How much are they if you buy them, same as the normal cigarette and how effective it is?

Probably between 50€ and 70€ depending on the model, I think. Haven't tasted one myself yet but my mates have did. I heard one of those liquid aromas costs around 5€ but turns out it lasts longer than a normal pack of cigarettes.

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ExtremoMania
How much are they if you buy them, same as the normal cigarette and how effective it is?

Probably between 50€ and 70€ depending on the model, I think. Haven't tasted one myself yet but my mates have did. I heard one of those liquid aromas costs around 5€ but turns out it lasts longer than a normal pack of cigarettes.

Whow that's expensive but it does have some good benefits. And seeing that is still has the same content of that a normal cigarette, it's still has intended health side effects, isn't it?

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Finn 7 five 11

They are cheaper to smoke than cigarettes I believe.

However i've heard there isn't that much regulation around them and that there hasn't been much research into potential health effects.

 

Personally though, if it's just flavoured steam with nicotine, it's probably not worse than smoking.

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Harley

 

I had a drag of a friend's e-cig a few years ago. It tasted like popcorn.

 

You say the liquid lasts a week, how many 'cigarettes' is that?

It all depends on how much you smoke, and the tanks come in all different sizes, the one I have atm holds 2.oML, which does me for most of the day, once its empty you jusrt unscrew the top and refill.

 

The thing about ecigs that unlike a normal cig, they don't burn out, you can just puff away on them all day (if you want, plus you won't feel like crap if you do chain smoke it) so that can lash through the stuff, but again if you buy a good quality e liquid ( the refills) and e cig, you'll be fine. the cheap ones claim to equal 40 normal cigs but that is complete BS.

 

As for the popcorn taste, ya there are a huge selection of eliquids in every type of flavour from tobacco to candyfloss! so your friend could have had a popcorn flavoured one tounge.gif on a more serious note, all eliquids taste diff, so two tobacco flavours will not taste the same, plus you can get ones that try to replicate diff tobacco types, eg rolling tobacco or say malboro red. you just need to experiment to find your prefeered choice.

 

It is different to normal smoking, but think of it as just changing brand. I would choose my ecig over a normal cig any day over a normal cig now, because I prefer the taste.

Yeah just had a good chuckle at some of the liquid names. Pale Mall biggrin.gif

 

So you smoked 20 real cigarettes a day, and about 2ml of the liquid is your equivalent? I noticed they have different strengths, what nicotine dose are you using?

Also, what brand did you used to smoke? I smoke Amber Leaf rollies, and according to pals I roll quite strong cigarettes - I keep imagining this e-cig being too weak to do anything for me.

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GTA_stu

So is this is basically the equivalent of heroin junkies using methadone then?

 

 

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Voodoo

I quit smoking about a year ago by switching to vapor. The cig-alikes are pretty much all crap with short lived batteries and substandard liquids. I started with a couple of eGo style USB passthrough batteries, some Vision style tanks and some decent quality e-liquids from a local vendor. Quitting smoking was ridiculously easy this way. Since then, I've picked up some nice atomizers, tanks, mods and found a few more high quality juice vendors. I feel better and my house, vehicles and clothes don't smell like ass anymore.

 

Here's one of my rigs.

 

user posted image

 

 

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RedDagger
Whow that's expensive but it does have some good benefits. And seeing that is still has the same content of that a normal cigarette, it's still has intended health side effects, isn't it?

What? No, it's just nicotine, steam and flavouring. Though they haven't been studied a huge amount, the health effects are still better than normal smoking.

 

Also, it's helped many people stop smoking. Some stay on e-cigs, some stop using either, but it's still a positive.

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Voodoo

There are hundreds of nasty chemicals in tobacco smoke, many of them added by the manufacturer. E-liquid contains a varying ratio of vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol, flavoring and varying amounts of nicotine. None of these have ever been linked to health risks including the nicotine. There is a lot of disinformation floating around about e-cigs partly due to the financial threat they pose to the tobacco companies.

 

 

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zainzombie

Tried it and hated it. Vegetable liquid makes my throat dry like a bitch and i dont get any kick when I drag (the real fun of smoking for me). Not satisfied and very happy with analogs.

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Majestic81

Meh they're bullsh*t, taste like sh*t and you'll need to keep buying new filters. id rather smoke real cigarettes.

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Voodoo

You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

 

 

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Majestic81

Because i have a different opinion? lol.gif they are a waste of time and like i said you need to constantly buy new filters for them, which can be hard to find in my area. not to mention that they dont taste like real smoke at all. i would rather have a real cigarette than this fake crap. but fine if you wanna pretend to be a smoker then by all means keep buying e-cigs, good for you.

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Toke

My wife smokes them on occasion, if anything it helps cut down on the money she spends on cigarettes.

 

I on the other hand cannot stand them, the taste reminds me of the taste of meth.

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Voodoo
Because i have a different opinion? lol.gif they are a waste of time and like i said you need to constantly buy new filters for them, which can be hard to find in my area. not to mention that they dont taste like real smoke at all. i would rather have a real cigarette than this fake crap. but fine if you wanna pretend to be a smoker then by all means keep buying e-cigs, good for you.

No, your experience appears to be limited to cheap gas station crap. I don't even know WTF you mean by "filters". There are no filters in an e-cig. You don't know what you are talking about because you barely know anything about the subject. There are hundreds if not thousands of different flavors of e-liquids and many different styles of devices. I smoked cigarettes for years and enjoyed it very much. I mainly quit because I was tired of feeling and smelling like sh*t all the time. It took a few tries to find flavors I liked but since the first month it has been much better than smoking. I own several different types of vaporizers and have been vaping exclusively for a year.

 

You don't have an opinion because frankly, you know f*ck all about the subject.

 

 

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Mr.Moffat

 

I had a drag of a friend's e-cig a few years ago. It tasted like popcorn.

 

You say the liquid lasts a week, how many 'cigarettes' is that?

It all depends on how much you smoke, and the tanks come in all different sizes, the one I have atm holds 2.oML, which does me for most of the day, once its empty you jusrt unscrew the top and refill.

 

The thing about ecigs that unlike a normal cig, they don't burn out, you can just puff away on them all day (if you want, plus you won't feel like crap if you do chain smoke it) so that can lash through the stuff, but again if you buy a good quality e liquid ( the refills) and e cig, you'll be fine. the cheap ones claim to equal 40 normal cigs but that is complete BS.

 

As for the popcorn taste, ya there are a huge selection of eliquids in every type of flavour from tobacco to candyfloss! so your friend could have had a popcorn flavoured one tounge.gif on a more serious note, all eliquids taste diff, so two tobacco flavours will not taste the same, plus you can get ones that try to replicate diff tobacco types, eg rolling tobacco or say malboro red. you just need to experiment to find your prefeered choice.

 

It is different to normal smoking, but think of it as just changing brand. I would choose my ecig over a normal cig any day over a normal cig now, because I prefer the taste.

Yeah just had a good chuckle at some of the liquid names. Pale Mall biggrin.gif

 

So you smoked 20 real cigarettes a day, and about 2ml of the liquid is your equivalent? I noticed they have different strengths, what nicotine dose are you using?

Also, what brand did you used to smoke? I smoke Amber Leaf rollies, and according to pals I roll quite strong cigarettes - I keep imagining this e-cig being too weak to do anything for me.

haha, same brand as rollies i used to smoke. I'd use 16mg to 18mg gives good satisfaction to cravings and gives a nice throat hit, as you work down to lower levels of nicotine, the 'hit' will get weaker, so prob try diff flavours then. as for taste, a few brands claim to be 'similar' to real brands, but end of the day they are not going to taste like actual burning tobacco. you just got to experiment with different types to you find one you like. you can buy small sample bottles for like €3.

 

Just one heads up, you won't like them straight away, it'll take a while to adjust to the new flavour. just like switching brands. like you I loved my amber leaf, but last week I took a pull from my buddies rollie and I nearly got sick it was horrible. you just got to wean yourself on to the new flavour. Good luck if you try and make the switch. you will feel better by the end of yhe monyh. Just make sure to do research to get best experience. too many people have given up on ecigs becasue they buy those cheap over the counter ones.

 

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I quit smoking about a year ago by switching to vapor. The cig-alikes are pretty much all crap with short lived batteries and substandard liquids. I started with a couple of eGo style USB passthrough batteries, some Vision style tanks and some decent quality e-liquids from a local vendor. Quitting smoking was ridiculously easy this way. Since then, I've picked up some nice atomizers, tanks, mods and found a few more high quality juice vendors. I feel better and my house, vehicles and clothes don't smell like ass anymore.

 

Here's one of my rigs.

 

Nice, setup, currantly using an ego twist myself.

Relieved to have someone else who knows the topic.

Seems for alot of people there experience are those horrible cig alikes from gas stations, which last the whole of five mins and then you need to spend another €8 on buying new cartimizers. no wonder so many people think they are crap.

 

 

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Voodoo

On the subject of variety and flavor, this one tastes just like absinthe. It's 50/50 PG/VG and 12mg nicotine in a ZEN atomizer.

 

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This one tastes like the top of a blueberry muffin. Also 50/50 PG/VG and 12mg nicotine but in an AGA atomizer.

 

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The cig lookalikes they sell at gas stations and tobacco shops are nothing like a quality atomizer/mod combo.

 

 

 

 

 

QUOTE (Mr.Moffat @ Monday, Aug 19 2013, 11:14)

 

 

 

Nice, setup, currantly using an ego twist myself.

Relieved to have someone else who knows the topic.

Seems for alot of people there experience are those horrible cig alikes from gas stations, which last the whole of five mins and then you need to spend another €8 on buying new cartimizers. no wonder so many people think they are crap.

 

 

 

 

I was going to get a twist last year but ended up with a Provari. VV makes such a difference, now I have two of them. I always recommend eGo setups to anyone looking to try vaping. It's the best way to start, IMO.

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Majestic81
Because i have a different opinion? lol.gif  they are a waste of time and like i said you need to constantly buy new filters for them, which can be hard to find in my area. not to mention that they dont taste like real smoke at all. i would rather have a real cigarette than this fake crap. but fine if you wanna pretend to be a smoker then by all means keep buying e-cigs, good for you.

No, your experience appears to be limited to cheap gas station crap. I don't even know WTF you mean by "filters". There are no filters in an e-cig. You don't know what you are talking about because you barely know anything about the subject. There are hundreds if not thousands of different flavors of e-liquids and many different styles of devices. I smoked cigarettes for years and enjoyed it very much. I mainly quit because I was tired of feeling and smelling like sh*t all the time. It took a few tries to find flavors I liked but since the first month it has been much better than smoking. I own several different types of vaporizers and have been vaping exclusively for a year.

 

You don't have an opinion because frankly, you know f*ck all about the subject.

Yeah because obviously knowing about e-cigs needs a f*cking diploma. and i meant cartridges when i said filters, they refer to them as filters in other languages. anyway im done arguing on this subject, who knew that you could get into a stupid argument with someone on the internet for just for stating your opinion? oh and you should lose the attitude, you sound like an immature little kid.

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Voodoo

Just keep telling yourself that.

 

 

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assmillk
Meh they're bullsh*t, taste like sh*t and you'll need to keep buying new filters. id rather smoke real cigarettes.

You can easily make your own liquid and keep refilling the cartridges. And the taste doesn't even compare to real cigarettes.

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