Eutyphro Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 People always call the gang Grove St. instead of Families. Because the gang IS called grove street. If you look at your stats early in the game, all 'family' territories belong to Grove Street, even the ones that belong to temple drive families or seville boulevard families. All those territories are named grove street in your stat, and not families. Because the gang is also called Grove street. The game is just contradictory with itself.. Accept it. hahahahahahaha grove st was a set son not a gang the gang was called Families which grove was a set of just like Seville Blvrd and temple drive were No... Families and Grove Street ar mixed up as terms with the same meaning, only thing is that Grove Street also refers to a specific set. You didn't understand my comment. These terms are used inconsistently. Then tell me, are the gang members wearing green at the beginning in the game in temple drive and seville boulevard, when they are still beefing with grove in the story, grove street members? You can actualy recruit them, and those territories do belong to grove in your stats, but not in the storyline. How does this work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddFool Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 People always call the gang Grove St. instead of Families. Because the gang IS called grove street. If you look at your stats early in the game, all 'family' territories belong to Grove Street, even the ones that belong to temple drive families or seville boulevard families. All those territories are named grove street in your stat, and not families. Because the gang is also called Grove street. The game is just contradictory with itself.. Accept it. hahahahahahaha grove st was a set son not a gang the gang was called Families which grove was a set of just like Seville Blvrd and temple drive were No... Families and Grove Street ar mixed up as terms with the same meaning, only thing is that Grove Street also refers to a specific set. You didn't understand my comment. These terms are used inconsistently. Then tell me, are the gang members wearing green at the beginning in the game in temple drive and seville boulevard, when they are still beefing with grove in the story, grove street members? You can actualy recruit them, and those territories do belong to grove in your stats, but not in the storyline. How does this work? there's this thing called set tripping carnal it's when two sets from a specific gang lets say the Crips are beefing wit each other and when there's set trippin there's murder so that's why grove and Seville smoked each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getzmunney Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 People always call the gang Grove St. instead of Families. Because the gang IS called grove street. If you look at your stats early in the game, all 'family' territories belong to Grove Street, even the ones that belong to temple drive families or seville boulevard families. All those territories are named grove street in your stat, and not families. Because the gang is also called Grove street. The game is just contradictory with itself.. Accept it. hahahahahahaha grove st was a set son not a gang the gang was called Families which grove was a set of just like Seville Blvrd and temple drive were No... Families and Grove Street ar mixed up as terms with the same meaning, only thing is that Grove Street also refers to a specific set. You didn't understand my comment. These terms are used inconsistently. Then tell me, are the gang members wearing green at the beginning in the game in temple drive and seville boulevard, when they are still beefing with grove in the story, grove street members? You can actualy recruit them, and those territories do belong to grove in your stats, but not in the storyline. How does this work? WRONG.. all bad lol...they just fucced up and forgot to make those sets non recruitable..which really upset me bacc then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutyphro Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) @MaddFool Yeah, you didn't understand what I said. Forget about it. @Getzmunney But then they also f*cked up the stat that calls the gang GROVE STREET families and not families? Wow.. They f*cked up a lot.. I guess I must believe you in stead of the game itself Edited August 11, 2013 by gtaxpert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddFool Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yeah, you didn't understand what I said. Forget about it. But then they also f*cked up the stat that calls the gang GROVE STREET families and not families? Wow.. They f*cked up a lot.. I guess I must believe you in stead of the game itself damn fool its not even hard to understand CJ was in the grove st SET that's why it shows that they were taking over if he had been Seville Blvrd. then it would've said Seville in your stats it's not hard to understand wat a set is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutyphro Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 damn fool its not even hard to understandCJ was in the grove st SET that's why it shows that they were taking over if he had been Seville Blvrd. then it would've said Seville in your stats it's not hard to understand wat a set is When did he take over seville boulevard and temple drive before the first mission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getzmunney Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 @MaddFool Yeah, you didn't understand what I said. Forget about it. @Getzmunney But then they also f*cked up the stat that calls the gang GROVE STREET families and not families? Wow.. They f*cked up a lot.. I guess I must believe you in stead of the game itself Grove st=set..eight tray(83 street)=set... Families=gang....crips=gang.... Grove street families.........Eight tray gangster crips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddFool Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 damn fool its not even hard to understandCJ was in the grove st SET that's why it shows that they were taking over if he had been Seville Blvrd. then it would've said Seville in your stats it's not hard to understand wat a set is When did he take over seville boulevard and temple drive before the first mission? you're a lost cause carnal and Getzmunney explained perfectly 4 you up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skycloud3x Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 well in franklins trailer you can see graffiti that says grove so i believe grove st is coming back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getzmunney Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 well in franklins trailer you can see graffiti that says grove so i believe grove st is coming back Yea the set will be bacc but im sure its gonna be a llittle further south east from where franklin lives.. I think its gonna be behind the ganton (or whaterver comptons called this time) courthouse by the L.S. River..franklin dont live in ganton hes up in south l.s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Theft Savage Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 well in franklins trailer you can see graffiti that says grove so i believe grove st is coming back CJ - "How'd it get so bad? I thought this was Families' turf?" Sweet - "It's Temple Drive Family. We don't run with them no more" This right here explains everything. There are Sets in the Families Gang. Grove Street is one set. Going by the graffiti we have seen in Families turf in GTA V, Lamar (and Franklin) are from "Killer Hills." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddFool Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 well in franklins trailer you can see graffiti that says grove so i believe grove st is coming back CJ - "How'd it get so bad? I thought this was Families' turf?" Sweet - "It's Temple Drive Family. We don't run with them no more" This right here explains everything. There are Sets in the Families Gang. Grove Street is one set. Going by the graffiti we have seen in Families turf in GTA V, Lamar (and Franklin) are from "Killer Hills." haha damn killing all arguments wit this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getzmunney Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 well in franklins trailer you can see graffiti that says grove so i believe grove st is coming back CJ - "How'd it get so bad? I thought this was Families' turf?" Sweet - "It's Temple Drive Family. We don't run with them no more" This right here explains everything. There are Sets in the Families Gang. Grove Street is one set. Going by the graffiti we have seen in Families turf in GTA V, Lamar (and Franklin) are from "Killer Hills." Yea you just buried gtaxpert with this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skycloud3x Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 well in franklins trailer you can see graffiti that says grove so i believe grove st is coming back CJ - "How'd it get so bad? I thought this was Families' turf?" Sweet - "It's Temple Drive Family. We don't run with them no more" This right here explains everything. There are Sets in the Families Gang. Grove Street is one set. Going by the graffiti we have seen in Families turf in GTA V, Lamar (and Franklin) are from "Killer Hills." I understand the whole set is different than gang argument. i'm with you on that. I was just saying based on the graffiti i saw i believe grove will be back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal7252 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 people get this sht wrong... GROVE STREET= A STREET/ A set of the FAMILIES!!! Families is the gang and lamar is a member of the families. retarted fcking idiots onthis forum man says the British guy talking about a 'ghetto bird'..do u guys even have helicopters for criminals? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Without a Tongue Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Want the real story? It's because they didn't f*cking want to. Period. Worse than some nerdy ass Star Trek fans, god damn. Amen, brother. It'd be like taking them seriously when they said water insta-kills you because "gangsters don't swim". Yeah, that or it's a pain in the ass to program water stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan456 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 people get this sht wrong... GROVE STREET= A STREET/ A set of the FAMILIES!!! Families is the gang and lamar is a member of the families. retarted fcking idiots onthis forum man says the British guy talking about a 'ghetto bird'..do u guys even have helicopters for criminals? lol yeah so what im british? and yeah we do? motherfcker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutyphro Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 well in franklins trailer you can see graffiti that says grove so i believe grove st is coming back CJ - "How'd it get so bad? I thought this was Families' turf?" Sweet - "It's Temple Drive Family. We don't run with them no more" This right here explains everything. There are Sets in the Families Gang. Grove Street is one set. Going by the graffiti we have seen in Families turf in GTA V, Lamar (and Franklin) are from "Killer Hills." Yea you just buried gtaxpert with this one Buried...? Where? And when did I ignore the existence of sets? Families and Grove Street ar mixed up as terms with the same meaning, only thing is that Grove Street also refers to a specific set. You didn't understand my comment. These terms are used inconsistently. Now you won't understand this and will come up with the same sh*t you already brought up, but you can just go read what I said on the first page again, because it's all there. I'll summarize it: My standpoint is that the game uses 'families' and 'grove street' inconsistently, because there are contradictions between how it is used in the storyline, in the fact that temple drive and boulevard families have grove street dialogue and can be recruited, and that the stats marks all families territories as GROVE STREET families. Maybe it's kind of a complicated standpoint for you, but good luck comprehending it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getzmunney Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 well in franklins trailer you can see graffiti that says grove so i believe grove st is coming back CJ - "How'd it get so bad? I thought this was Families' turf?" Sweet - "It's Temple Drive Family. We don't run with them no more" This right here explains everything. There are Sets in the Families Gang. Grove Street is one set. Going by the graffiti we have seen in Families turf in GTA V, Lamar (and Franklin) are from "Killer Hills." Yea you just buried gtaxpert with this one Buried...? Where? And when did I ignore the existence of sets? Families and Grove Street ar mixed up as terms with the same meaning, only thing is that Grove Street also refers to a specific set. You didn't understand my comment. These terms are used inconsistently. Now you won't understand this and will come up with the same sh*t you already brought up, but you can just go read what I said on the first page again, because it's all there. I'll summarize it: My standpoint is that the game uses 'families' and 'grove street' inconsistently, because there are contradictions between how it is used in the storyline, in the fact that temple drive and boulevard families have grove street dialogue and can be recruited, and that the stats marks all families territories as GROVE STREET families. Maybe it's kind of a complicated standpoint for you, but good luck comprehending it. I see what you mean..from a development standpoint not necessarily game world wise. I get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bantri Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Everyone is obsessed with Grove Street. It's annoying. What I would like to see are some of the Midnight Club LA characters as some of the street racing guys. Not many people would make the connection, but it would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutyphro Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I see what you mean..from a development standpoint not necessarily game world wise. I get it Good enough for me let's bury the hatchet. lol. What I wanted to argue was why I think that someone isn't completely in error when he calls the total name of the gang Grove Street Families in stead of Families. Moreover I did this because I much rather call the total of the gang GSF than Families, because it is a much more awesome name.. But yeah, tiring discussion, but I do have to admit that I have gained more insight in your side of the argument as well. And all of this was pretty off topic but I don't give a flying f*ck. I'm going to sleep now. bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73duster Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Everyone is obsessed with Grove Street. It's annoying. What I would like to see are some of the Midnight Club LA characters as some of the street racing guys. Not many people would make the connection, but it would be cool. Grove St. has a special connection for many who've played San Andreas. Nostalgia is a powerful feeling, and the desire to see Grove St., or a connection to Grove St. in this game would add that sense of nostalgia that many of us are seeking. While some would certainly enjoy a tie in to Midnight Club, it would feel out of place. Personally, i'd LOVE to see John Marston pop up in the game, as he is in my opinion, the GREATEST character Rockstar has EVER created, but that would also feel out of place. Imagine running into John Marston running a farm out in Grapeseed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsrow Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) Grove St. has a special connection for many who've played San Andreas. Nostalgia is a powerful feeling, and the desire to see Grove St., or a connection to Grove St. in this game would add that sense of nostalgia that many of us are seeking. Word. Personally, i'd LOVE to see John Marston pop up in the game, as he is in my opinion, the GREATEST character Rockstar has EVER created, but that would also feel out of place. Imagine running into John Marston running a farm out in Grapeseed. It would be interesting to meet an old farmer out in Grapeseed with the last name Marston, with a grandson kind of family resemblance to John Marston. That would tie it together. Edited August 11, 2013 by saintsrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil ski Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Why can't folks just accept the fact that Rockstar can say whatever they want to say and put whatever they want to put in the game cuz they are making it. Hell they can go as far to piss "universers" off by saying that Franklin is CJ's illegitimate son. It's their game! f*ck that universe sh*t. anyways I'm just glad to know that grove street families and ballas are back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss7dm Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Grove St is for pussies it's funny how ppl write sh*t like "Grove 4 Life f*ck a Balla blah blah blah" lool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slumdunder Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Just because they keep the gang's name doesn't mean the alternate universe theory is wrong. Some things keep their names, some don't. Specific storyline characters don't get transferred over, and the locations see a major facelift as well. Just chill out about it; its an art, not a science. Stop trying to put rigid rules on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbunleashed09 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I think the universe thing refers to the important characters in past GTAs, so irrerelevant characters or GTA World known characters (Love Fist) will maybe make a return. Or at least a reference. So things like Ball as, Grove St, Families, Burger Shot, and other GTA world famous characters and places Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceHot100 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Everyone is obsessed with Grove Street. It's annoying. What I would like to see are some of the Midnight Club LA characters as some of the street racing guys. Not many people would make the connection, but it would be cool. Grove St. has a special connection for many who've played San Andreas. Nostalgia is a powerful feeling, and the desire to see Grove St., or a connection to Grove St. in this game would add that sense of nostalgia that many of us are seeking. While some would certainly enjoy a tie in to Midnight Club, it would feel out of place. Personally, i'd LOVE to see John Marston pop up in the game, as he is in my opinion, the GREATEST character Rockstar has EVER created, but that would also feel out of place. Imagine running into John Marston running a farm out in Grapeseed. John is dead so that would make little sense. Jack maybe Though what I really want is, CJ mentioned in the game it is really nostialgic for the faithful Rockstar fans . For instance, there's a convo between Lamar and Frankie, Lamar mentions CJ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73duster Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Everyone is obsessed with Grove Street. It's annoying. What I would like to see are some of the Midnight Club LA characters as some of the street racing guys. Not many people would make the connection, but it would be cool. Grove St. has a special connection for many who've played San Andreas. Nostalgia is a powerful feeling, and the desire to see Grove St., or a connection to Grove St. in this game would add that sense of nostalgia that many of us are seeking. While some would certainly enjoy a tie in to Midnight Club, it would feel out of place. Personally, i'd LOVE to see John Marston pop up in the game, as he is in my opinion, the GREATEST character Rockstar has EVER created, but that would also feel out of place. Imagine running into John Marston running a farm out in Grapeseed. John is dead so that would make little sense. Jack maybe Though what I really want is, CJ mentioned in the game it is really nostialgic for the faithful Rockstar fans . For instance, there's a convo between Lamar and Frankie, Lamar mentions CJ... Not everything HAS to make sense. In FACT, most people keep saying GTAIV was "too serious" or "Too realistic". I don't see any harm in bringing in characters as an easter egg, or just passing through(uninvolved with the story) moment. How about a farmer who is a DESCENDANT of John Marston, who looks and sounds just like him? Where's the harm in THAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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