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Feurian42

Again, the playoffs were not about the most deserving, its about the best of the best in a playoff. In the old system, yeah they looked at who deserved it. Look at what that got them. Ohio State gets waxed 2 years straight because they were clearly not the better team. The playoff was supposed to remedy that. It was supposed to take the 4 BEST, as I stated already.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think Fla.St. DESERVED a chance to prove themselves. But all year they proved they were no longer the unbeatable. Giving them that chance in the playoff just proved that who you play against needs more consideration. Louisville took them to the wire. Do you see Alabama fighting it out with Louisville?, Ohio State?, Oregon, or more importantly TCU? If the un beaten means so much, why were you not on here all year griping about Marshall getting snubbed? Point blank, Fla.St. lost too much last year talent wise. They struggled to make up for it, and no matter how good Winston is, you need a great team effort to prove you are the best. Fla.St. proved all year they are not great, borderline good, most likely 65 guys riding on the coat tails of one great QB. Hence, without question, NOT one of the best teams in college football. Therefore, should not have gone to the playoffs.

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Jonesizzle

A win is a win at the end of the day. If you're the only team out of the power 5 conference to go unbeaten then you should be held in higher regard of any other team getting into the playoff... that's why Rakeem Cato and Marshall didn't get any credit, small school/small conference.

 

We'll agree to disagree.

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I Love Anna Kournikova

A win is a win at the end of the day. If you're the only team out of the power 5 conference to go unbeaten then you should be held in higher regard of any other team getting into the playoff

 

I agree, Especially a team coming off a National Championship season. You can not leave them out, that would be insane.

 

That being said, I do believe TCU would beat FSU in a head to head. Doesnt mean they should get the nod over FSU though.

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Jonesizzle

Speaking of TCU my Sooners are interviewing the Horned Frogs o-coordinator (or co-offensive coordinator) Sonnie Cumbie for the same position. Josh Hueple will forever be a Sooner legend, but his ass needs to go somewhere else, his offensive hasn't been right for 3 years. I love Bob Stoops as a head coach, but I truly think his achilles hill is hiring a staff who he is close to or former players. He needs to stretch out and bring in something fresh like a Cumbie.

 

Forget Trevor Knight, I'm telling you now that Baker Mayfield will be a known name this time next year.

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I Love Anna Kournikova

Was Trevor Knight a senior this year?

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Jonesizzle

Nope, only a sophmore... he still has a lot of potential. Everyone seen what he did against Alabama, but he hasn't performed like that since that game.

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I Love Anna Kournikova

Wow, I had no idea he was that young. Honestly, if he didn't have the same first name as me and Katy Perry didn't want his D, I would have know idea who he was lol.

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Dumb guy

Good luck Ducks & Bucks.

Make it a good one please.

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iBUCKEYE

Well Duck fans, in the immortal words of Michael Keaton-- "You wanna get NUTS?!!"

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Dumb guy

Great game so far.

I grew up watching the Dicks win 5 games and that was a success.

That Buck QB SURE IS QUICK on his feet.

Gimme some more of these two also ran teams!!

Btw. I think Urban is one great coach.

I'll take the Ducks being the bills of the ncaa if I have to.

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iBUCKEYE

Yea Cardale Jones is a baaaaad man!

 

We gotta watch out for those turnovers though. Defense really saved the offense's ass.

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Dumb guy

It's soooooooo much better than Bama/Fla st.

New teams etc etc. Looking forward to Ducks conditioning vs Ohio st big boys.

Not looking good for me.

Don't tell the wife and nieces.

I would have liked to face any coach but that Ute coach.

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GTA3Rockstar

Turnovers turnover turnovers.

 

 

Finally got a score after a turnover for the Duckies.

 

 

BARELY, though. Dipsh*ts need to stop doing that before they cross the goalline.

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iBUCKEYE

Super Mario just got BOWSERED(or Bosa'd)

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iBUCKEYE

OH-IO baby!!!!!

 

Damn good game.

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N4TE

Not really a Ohio State fan or college fan for that matter, but I had to root for the home state.

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GTA3Rockstar

OH-IO baby!!!!!

 

Damn good game.

 

O HI O sounds better than OH YO :p

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Dumb guy

Well done Ohio.

Hope to do it again next year.

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I Love Anna Kournikova

I was not expecting that at all.

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Jonesizzle

Great game to watch, Cardale Jones has a NFL quality arm and mobility, man they'll have one hell of a QB showdown if the yall decide to stay, which would baffle me because all 3 of them could start for any major college program.

 

Mariota was exposed this game, and I wouldn't be surprised if his draft stock takes a hit after this game. He has a lot of upside but isn't "NFL ready" like Winston is.. as far as a QB skill set goes.

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I think this will be one of the weakest Drafts for QB's in a while.

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Jonesizzle

Indeed, and the bad part for a lot of teams is that they need a franchise QB and there is none in this draft. Regardless, I think it'll force teams hand to go out and make Mariota and Winston top 5-10 draft picks.

 

That's assuming Mariota declares for the draft, I think he'd be able to lead the Ducks back to the playoff at least, and work on some of his skills if he were to stay at Oregon.

 

Now rumor has it Cardale Jones is thinking about entering the draft. In the past 3 games, games against successful-winning programs, he has shined and looked absolutely tremendous, but would that be enough of a showcasing to justify spending a possible high draft pick on the kid?

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GTA3Rockstar

I think this will be one of the weakest Drafts for QB's in a while.

 

Since 2013 lol

 

EJ Manuel, pft

Geno Smith, pft

 

Noone else to mention.

 

Great game to watch, Cardale Jones has a NFL quality arm and mobility, man they'll have one hell of a QB showdown if the yall decide to stay, which would baffle me because all 3 of them could start for any major college program.

 

Mariota was exposed this game, and I wouldn't be surprised if his draft stock takes a hit after this game. He has a lot of upside but isn't "NFL ready" like Winston is.. as far as a QB skill set goes.

 

Exposed????? 26/36 for 338 yards 2td/1int seems like a nicely done performance. Ohio just held that offense in check, especially how many turnovers they gave Oregon.

 

 

And Winston over Mariota? HA!

 

I don't see how, especially when he has thrown 18 interceptions to 25 touchdowns. Mariota has thrown 14... in his three years. 42/4 ratio this year, 31/4 and 32/6 the others

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El Dildo

my dad is Florida alumni so I've been watching Urban Meyer since the days that Tebow was still starting games, it was easy rooting for Ohio last night. for the first ever playoff-based national title game, I feel like the system delivered. we got a great game between 2 of the more exciting offensive teams in the country.

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And that 1 INT was the last play of the game just trying tpo make shti happen.

 

Mariota should go to the NFL. he is a top 5 pick according to every draft expert.

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Indeed, and the bad part for a lot of teams is that they need a franchise QB and there is none in this draft. Regardless, I think it'll force teams hand to go out and make Mariota and Winston top 5-10 draft picks.

That's assuming Mariota declares for the draft, I think he'd be able to lead the Ducks back to the playoff at least, and work on some of his skills if he were to stay at Oregon.

Now rumor has it Cardale Jones is thinking about entering the draft. In the past 3 games, games against successful-winning programs, he has shined and looked absolutely tremendous, but would that be enough of a showcasing to justify spending a possible high draft pick on the kid?

I could see him being taken in the 4th or 5th round as a luxury pick. Have him sit behind and learn for a few years. The guy is a lot like Big Ben, just more athletic.

 

 

EDIT: Now there are rumors about Braxton transferring, which tbh doesn't really bug me. I like the guy, but I'd rather have both J.T. and '12 gauge over him.

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I Love Anna Kournikova

Jones said today he isnt ready for the NFL.

 

Braxton should go to Oregon. Wouldnt that be insane? Braxton transfers to Oregon and then Beats Ohio State in a Double revenge game.

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Jonesizzle

 

 

I think this will be one of the weakest Drafts for QB's in a while.

Since 2013 lol

 

EJ Manuel, pft

Geno Smith, pft

 

Noone else to mention.

 

Great game to watch, Cardale Jones has a NFL quality arm and mobility, man they'll have one hell of a QB showdown if the yall decide to stay, which would baffle me because all 3 of them could start for any major college program.

 

Mariota was exposed this game, and I wouldn't be surprised if his draft stock takes a hit after this game. He has a lot of upside but isn't "NFL ready" like Winston is.. as far as a QB skill set goes.

Exposed????? 26/36 for 338 yards 2td/1int seems like a nicely done performance. Ohio just held that offense in check, especially how many turnovers they gave Oregon.

 

 

And Winston over Mariota? HA!

 

I don't see how, especially when he has thrown 18 interceptions to 25 touchdowns. Mariota has thrown 14... in his three years. 42/4 ratio this year, 31/4 and 32/6 the others

Yes... exposed. PA read, PA Option, option which usually leads to him throwing to wide open receivers, which he missed some easy passes inside the pocket. Not only that the system he is in will drop his draft stock. Jamesis Winston has a better QB skill set, don't understand what you don't get, the guy would be a no-brainer over Mariota if it wasn't for his off-the-field issue(s). You know, from a guy who watches NFL a bit I'd figure you would know this by now.

 

Winston has the NFL arm, he has been in a NFL system, he checks defensive sets almost every play and the most important is that he can throw his receivers open and throw into tight spaces accurately. He is more NFL ready, but that really isn't saying much.

 

Cardale Jones did say he wasn't ready for the NFL but that was before sources said he was going to talk to Meyer about his future. If he is going to sit behind Miller/Barrett, why not go to the NFL and get paid to sit behind someone and learn?

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GTA3Rockstar

Yes... exposed. PA read, PA Option, option which usually leads to him throwing to wide open receivers, which he missed some easy passes inside the pocket. Not only that the system he is in will drop his draft stock. Jamesis Winston has a better QB skill set, don't understand what you don't get, the guy would be a no-brainer over Mariota if it wasn't for his off-the-field issue(s). You know, from a guy who watches NFL a bit I'd figure you would know this by now.

 

Winston has the NFL arm, he has been in a NFL system, he checks defensive sets almost every play and the most important is that he can throw his receivers open and throw into tight spaces accurately. He is more NFL ready, but that really isn't saying much.

 

Cardale Jones did say he wasn't ready for the NFL but that was before sources said he was going to talk to Meyer about his future. If he is going to sit behind Miller/Barrett, why not go to the NFL and get paid to sit behind someone and learn?

No, no, nope. And lol at the, "a bit" part. Don't even question my football knowledge.

 

Mariota is the best option, which is why Mcshay and Kiper have him going number one. Even Kiper has Winston going 6th on his new board. He doesn't turn the ball over, doesn't make any bone headed mistakes, on or off the field. You're correct about the "no brainer" part, but its definitely picking Mariota over Loseton.

 

Just because the Buckeyes defense played outstanding, doesn't mean he was exposed either. Lol

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Jonesizzle

I'll question it if you say questionable things, sorry.

 

So yes, yes and yes. He was exposed because of the offense he is/was running, which will drop his draft stock regardless of who has him going number one. There is only one team in the NFL who runs the same exact offense, and if that team gets Mariota I think he could be a overnight star like RGIII was.

 

If you're really basing his stock off of his td - int ratio, or his ability to not turn the ball over against college teams then I have every right to question your creditability on this matter. He's no where close to Winston as far as arm strength and arm accuracy, which are two main factors, not to include his awarness of the defense and his familiarity with a pro system. We will know for sure after the combine which could make or break certain players. You can't base stats and collegiate achievements on the stock of a football player, you know damn well it doesn't work like that.

 

Like I said, if Winston didn't have off-the-field issues then you'd be retarded to choose Mariota over Winston, unless your Chip Kelly or maybe Tampa Bay (just for the fact that I'd be wary of keeping Jamesis any where close to Tallahassee, I'd keep him out of the state of Florida).

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