Silent 15,836 Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 OK, so chopper model is now overridden by tweaked Police Maverick: Link to post Share on other sites
GTASanAndreas12345 3 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 OK, so chopper model is now overridden by tweaked Police Maverick: Excellent. The dull, original model with the crappy rotor blades looked out of place with the addition of your flyable helicopters. Link to post Share on other sites
RandomIII 0 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 No offense, but your last helicopter looks awful, it's too HD since gta3 has no antialiasing, it would be better to convert some helicopter from SA like Raindance or Cargobob. If this is too HD for GTA3, then Rockstar messed up as it's from VCS. In VCS it's ok, because it's in super shiny and colorful 80's, but in grey concrete jungle in 2001 there is just too many small details, that looks like a random bugged polygons from distace and none of gta3 vehicle has so small details so it doesn't looks like something that R* made, if they would add helicopters to gta3. I will convert SA heli for myself some day. Link to post Share on other sites
SomeGuy86 89 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I once converted Cessna 152 plane mod from San Andreas to III, I still have the files in-game... Since I kinda suck with handling and other config. data, I was never able to take off, plane was stuck to the ground but I might look into it again & see if I can take advantage from this mod. I'd even be willing to release Cessna for everyone, as long as I can get in touch with the original author & ask for permission... Link to post Share on other sites
Ash_735 17,113 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 No offense, but your last helicopter looks awful, it's too HD since gta3 has no antialiasing, it would be better to convert some helicopter from SA like Raindance or Cargobob. If this is too HD for GTA3, then Rockstar messed up as it's from VCS. In VCS it's ok, because it's in super shiny and colorful 80's, but in grey concrete jungle in 2001 there is just too many small details, that looks like a random bugged polygons from distace and none of gta3 vehicle has so small details so it doesn't looks like something that R* made, if they would add helicopters to gta3. I will convert SA heli for myself some day. ...What? The colours have been tweaked to use the gta3 carcols, the model quality has been altered slightly to fit in more with gta3, all of them have but they are still higher quality than gta3s helicopters obviously. If you think it looks bad due to the lack of aa in that screenshot, then just dont spawn it. Link to post Share on other sites
RandomIII 0 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 No offense, but your last helicopter looks awful, it's too HD since gta3 has no antialiasing, it would be better to convert some helicopter from SA like Raindance or Cargobob. If this is too HD for GTA3, then Rockstar messed up as it's from VCS. In VCS it's ok, because it's in super shiny and colorful 80's, but in grey concrete jungle in 2001 there is just too many small details, that looks like a random bugged polygons from distace and none of gta3 vehicle has so small details so it doesn't looks like something that R* made, if they would add helicopters to gta3. I will convert SA heli for myself some day. ...What? The colours have been tweaked to use the gta3 carcols, the model quality has been altered slightly to fit in more with gta3, all of them have but they are still higher quality than gta3s helicopters obviously. If you think it looks bad due to the lack of aa in that screenshot, then just dont spawn it. Maybe add a bit alpha? Link to post Share on other sites
Silent 15,836 Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 Add alpha? Where? Link to post Share on other sites
nkjellman 1,715 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) Add alpha? Where? Don't worry about it man. The heli exists in the III universe, with that look too. Its not like your using GTA IV helicopters. Also the paint color argument is also invalid because vehicles in real life are not darker colors in New York, and colorful in Miami. They are the colors the manufactures make them. So its too bright for LC isn't a reason. Also, whats left? I really wanna play this thing. Edit: Not sure how much ASI modding was done on the full wing Dodo, but I think I may know how to get one working on GTA III 10th Anniversary Edition (but not as well as your Dodo of course). Some of this may not be possible with out ASI, if vehicles work differently on this game than on IV. I think in III era GTA's (not sure about SA), there is some stuff you can't change in the ide that you can on GTA IV. -Plane uses the ID 154 -Rotors will have to work like the stripped wing Dodo. Their always running (If possible, if not it would just have to be static. Or the plane could be a lear jet like the Shamal so it doesn't need all the animations, but then you got sound). -Plane would sound like the Dodo. But on mobile, it wouldn't be able to spawn. So there are a few solutions. Solution 1: Seeing if it can spawn well keeping old saves working. -Replace one of the two Dodo spawns (would be better if it was the one by the helipad) to the full wing Dodo -See if its possible to keep it so the main.scm size doesn't change. I'm not sure, but this may allow old saves to work. Solution 2: Old saves won't work. -Spawns added to the airport. -Though Bridges and Tunnels are blocked, there are boats available so you can get to all the islands from the start. Bridges and tunnels unlock like normal to keep it correct. I might look into this at some point. Edit: I hope this can be fixed. Editing the insane stunt jumps would require scm editing, so you might be able to make it so your aircraft can't trigger insane stunt jumps, and maybe so the clipped wing Dodo can't ether. I think GTA LC had this issue as well. Edited August 14, 2013 by nkjellman Link to post Share on other sites
Silent 15,836 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Also, whats left? I really wanna play this thing. Last testing and spawning aircraft on the map Link to post Share on other sites
MrMateczko 3,325 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 How much time to fly through the whole map? 1 minute? 30 seconds? Link to post Share on other sites
nkjellman 1,715 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) Also, whats left? I really wanna play this thing. Last testing and spawning aircraft on the map Great! That shouldn't take long. Do you think it could be out today or tomorrow? Edit: I get this feeling that we will be able to access the LCPD HQ roof via teliport. Edited August 15, 2013 by nkjellman Link to post Share on other sites
Silent 15,836 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) Do you think it could be out today or tomorrow? Wouldn't be hoping for today's release ("today" CET-time wise). Probably tomorrow, unless something really bad happens or I suddenly forget how to write in English and won't manage to make a proper ReadMe. Edited August 15, 2013 by SilentPL Link to post Share on other sites
nkjellman 1,715 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Do you think it could be out today or tomorrow? Wouldn't be hoping for today's release ("today" CET-time wise). Probably tomorrow, unless something really bad happens or I suddenly forget how to write in English and won't manage to make a proper ReadMe. Lol, you will be fine. Can't wait to try it out. I've always wanted to have working aircraft in III. GTA III's LC actually looks nice from the air in my opinion (minus the missing rooftops). I hope someone will make a mod like this for Watch Dogs. The game isn't gonna have aircraft but should. The black out hack would be a fun one to watch from the air. Link to post Share on other sites
lerche88 2 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Is it done? Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Kostelecky 435 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Pretty sure that asking for it won't get it to you any faster. Link to post Share on other sites
lerche88 2 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Pretty sure that asking for it won't get it to you any faster. Now, now, don't get all nowty like a little child. It IS done anyway, literally. I was trying to get a yes or no answer, which I obviously didn't get, looking at your reply. Link to post Share on other sites
johnny404 22 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Remember when Silent's widescreen fix for SA was going to come out in June/July? Link to post Share on other sites
Ash_735 17,113 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 He's just ran into some problems regarding dummy/map helis, removing them now causes a crash for some reason, so the planned spawn points for certain Heli's had to be changed, and original places he was going to put other's are buildings which are not solid, so again, deciding where to spawn them in places that make sense. Link to post Share on other sites
nkjellman 1,715 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 He's just ran into some problems regarding dummy/map helis, removing them now causes a crash for some reason, so the planned spawn points for certain Heli's had to be changed, and original places he was going to put other's are buildings which are not solid, so again, deciding where to spawn them in places that make sense. If he cant remove them, why doesn't he move them to a spot where they cant be seen? Link to post Share on other sites
Silent 15,836 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 If he cant remove them, why doesn't he move them to a spot where they cant be seen? More specifically, they don't want to hide when using a CLEO script. Moving them would be even harder. Remember when Silent's widescreen fix for SA was going to come out in June/July? I'm not focusing on it much as ThirteenAG's mod is good enough - mine will only expand it to be just like VCSPC's fix - it'll look similarly though. Link to post Share on other sites
=OG4life= 57 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 This is so nice, I was hoping so long for a mod like this to happen. Really, beautifully done! If only it was possible to implement the other three abilities to III - crouching, popping tires and jumping out of vehicle BTW would the rooftop at Kenji's Casino make a good spawn point or what? Link to post Share on other sites
nkjellman 1,715 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 If he cant remove them, why doesn't he move them to a spot where they cant be seen? More specifically, they don't want to hide when using a CLEO script. Moving them would be even harder. Remember when Silent's widescreen fix for SA was going to come out in June/July? I'm not focusing on it much as ThirteenAG's mod is good enough - mine will only expand it to be just like VCSPC's fix - it'll look similarly though. Alright then. How about swapping them with an object that wont be visible? Link to post Share on other sites
Silent 15,836 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 This is so nice, I was hoping so long for a mod like this to happen. Really, beautifully done! If only it was possible to implement the other three abilities to III - crouching, popping tires and jumping out of vehicle BTW would the rooftop at Kenji's Casino make a good spawn point or what? It would... if I were able to hide the static helicopter properly. Something seems wrong with doing it via CLEO. Link to post Share on other sites
=OG4life= 57 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Oh and BTW does anyone know a mod to cover all the missing rooftops? Damn, R* was sloppy while making buildings, but I guess they didn't expect helis to happen Link to post Share on other sites
nkjellman 1,715 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 This is so nice, I was hoping so long for a mod like this to happen. Really, beautifully done! If only it was possible to implement the other three abilities to III - crouching, popping tires and jumping out of vehicle BTW would the rooftop at Kenji's Casino make a good spawn point or what? It would... if I were able to hide the static helicopter properly. Something seems wrong with doing it via CLEO. Well, how do the destroyed buildings work? They swap a model with a different model. So, you could make a new object, where the model would be under the map if it were to use the dummy heli cords. You could use the destroyed buildings method, or even use the same method you used to swap out the chase heli and Catalina's heli. If I were creating the spawns, the dummy heli's would really only be in the way of the Maverick. Here is how I'd do the spawns. Its kinda like how GTA LC did them. -Maverick *Airport helipad *Casino helipad -LCPD Maverick *On top of the Staunton Island Police HQ (with a teliport to take you to the top) -LC News Maverick *On top the news building in Portland -Hunter (with functional weapons) *At Phill's Compound *Maybe by typing in "OHDUDE" and it will spawn in front of you. (Cheat from San Andreas) -Armadillo *Maybe a few by where the dummy helicopters are. -Dodo (full-winged) *Right next to the clipped Dodo by the helipad *In one of the airport hangers -Skimmer *At the Docks in Staunton Island -Biplane *In one of the airport hangers Link to post Share on other sites
Silent 15,836 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 You mostly guessed them right Link to post Share on other sites
Sir-Ivan 42 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Or you spawn te Hunter in Antlantic Quays " Near Vincenzo's House ". Same thing like GTA LC. Link to post Share on other sites
Silent 15,836 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 I'd like to avoid duplicating all GTA LC spawns, although they're pretty intuitive and some of them WILL be duplicated. Link to post Share on other sites
xNCx 154 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Okay, so it's 2:13 when I write this, I wanted to go sleep, but after I saw this topic I am speechless. Really. Silent, zajebiste! Helis in gta3 are something that I would have never ever expected. I just jumped through the topics sites quickly... If I got it right, in gta3 there are some codes/scripts in the game engine for helis, but they were never used (have been hidden by Rockstar)? Link to post Share on other sites
Silent 15,836 Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 It's 2:51 when I write this and... RELEASED! http://www.gtagarage.com/mods/show.php?id=24533 For detailed description on what these two installation methods are, refer to GTAGarage news. Enjoy your flight! Link to post Share on other sites
