GTA V PC Petition reaches 300,000 signatures

[Paper Mario]

Better not release it on the PC, it will get pirated very heavily and R* will lose money.

 

Not really wanting to start an argument here, but that's a really bad example. Look at the amount of leachers/seeders.

Yeah, that's because IV is ancient. Go type in a game recently released, at least 10k leechers at any time.

And yet GTA V will most likely be leaked early on the Xbox 360 since that ALWAYS happens with every 360 game, enjoy having GTAV spoiled a week before it's even in your hands thanks to pirates that "only do it on PC".

Geez can you guys stop for once with the pc vs console war? You guys shouldn't even be allowed to have them. Be glad you have the luxury to play games..

[Korisselys]

300,000 pirates lul

[M_Redfield]

Better not release it on the PC, it will get pirated very heavily and R* will lose money.

 

Compared to:

 

 

Not the best route to take, if we're being honest here.

[DS 17]

All the people signed so far (300,233) have a buying power of 18,010,977.67 Euro (59.99 Euro each game).

That's 23,920,379.40 US$.

[Member#1]

Maybe better to just ignore all those childish and/or trolling "Please R* don't bring GTAV to PC, because I don't want PC gamers to be able to play the game." remarks in here.

[davetopper]

People are always saying that GTA IV was a shytti port, so why do you believe that GTA V will not be one as well? And on that note what also makes you believe that GTA V will be released for the PC? Because as far as I know Red Dead Redemption was never released for the PC.

 

I take it that is the reason that the online Red Dead is still vanilla after all this time.

 

I have seen what PC people do to a game. Mainly turn a MIchelangelo into an Andy Warhol.

 

Want a fÛcked up GTA V, hack the shysa out of Saints Row the turd instead, it deserves it more.

[Paper Mario]

People are always saying that GTA IV was a shytti port, so why do you believe that GTA V will not be one as well? And on that note what also makes you believe that GTA V will be released for the PC? Because as far as I know Red Dead Redemption was never released for the PC.

 

I take it that is the reason that the online Red Dead is still vanilla after all this time.

 

I have seen what PC people do to a game. Mainly turn a MIchelangelo into an Andy Warhol.

 

Want a fÛcked up GTA V, hack the shysa out of Saints Row the turd instead, it deserves it more.

No game deserves to be hacked/modded in a bad way. Hackers should just be banned by the company of the game. And I don't mind if GTA V comes out on PC, but a lot of people who play legit online would really love it. So why not? It wouldn't be cool either if it wouldn't be released on 360 or PS3.

 

Something like the cheaters pool.

[œaœa]

People are always saying that GTA IV was a shytti port, so why do you believe that GTA V will not be one as well? And on that note what also makes you believe that GTA V will be released for the PC? Because as far as I know Red Dead Redemption was never released for the PC.

 

I take it that is the reason that the online Red Dead is still vanilla after all this time.

 

I have seen what PC people do to a game. Mainly turn a MIchelangelo into an Andy Warhol.

 

Want a fÛcked up GTA V, hack the shysa out of Saints Row the turd instead, it deserves it more.

Why do we think V will run better than IV? Max Payne 3 PC ran just fine.

[I Luke]

People are always saying that GTA IV was a shytti port, so why do you believe that GTA V will not be one as well? And on that note what also makes you believe that GTA V will be released for the PC? Because as far as I know Red Dead Redemption was never released for the PC.

 

I take it that is the reason that the online Red Dead is still vanilla after all this time.

 

I have seen what PC people do to a game. Mainly turn a MIchelangelo into an Andy Warhol.

 

Want a fÛcked up GTA V, hack the shysa out of Saints Row the turd instead, it deserves it more.

Haha, Makes me laugh. They don't want to bring it to PC? Their loss not ours. People can live without a game idiot.

 

So what If PC mod the game? It's been around for years. It makes it last longer and there really are no restrictions.

It's like MS trying to get rid of pre-owned games, Not going to happen. We buy it, it's our property.

[Andreas]

 

People are always saying that GTA IV was a shytti port, so why do you believe that GTA V will not be one as well? And on that note what also makes you believe that GTA V will be released for the PC? Because as far as I know Red Dead Redemption was never released for the PC.

There are two Rockstar titles that were released for PC since IV in 2008, and that are L.A. Noire and Max Payne 3. While the fomer one may not be the best port, it was alright and they did a decent job considering that the game doesn't even use the Rockstar Advanced Game Engine. It certainly was a better port than IV. MP3 on the other hand, does use RAGE, and it's the best optimized title from them yet. It runs great on a large range of PC's; it runs decently on low-end PC's and it uses the full capabilities of High-End PC's. The fact that RDR wasn't released for PC is not an argument. There are even more titles that weren't released for PC. There are several reasons for it, for example, the titles were either developed by the San Diego studio, or they are platform or console-manufacturer exclusives.

 

Why will V not be a crappy port on PC? Well, let's put it in that way: why would they do a great job with MP3, a title that is far less popular than GTA, and then go back to old habits with the newest installment of the GTA series? Let's be honest, that makes no sense whatsoever.

[kb8618]

I don't get why people bother. The PC edition always comes a few moths later and R* always declines to make a clear yes or no comment until after the initial release. I expect the PC version out by late spring early summer 2014.

[K.Walters]

Cool, but what`s the point of making a petition for something that they will release anyways.

[V_GTA_V]

PC petition reaches insanity! Petition for something that gonna happen ?

 

 

And did i ever tell u the definiton of insanity?

 

 

[Burchmore500]

They're just want to let it sell on current-gen consoles first. If they announced a next-gen/PC version, a lot of people would probably just wait until that comes out.

 

If you look at the comparison of graphics between the screenshots released and what we have seen in the gameplay trailer it is pretty clear that the screenshots are from a next-gen version so they are likely to port the next-gen version to PC instead of the current-gen version.

[TakinThyBacon]

Online petitions get nothing accomplished

[Nemesis2252]

oh my god this is still around, and still being updated? this is pathetic!

[polosistealth]

i think it will be delayed to Q4 2014 because of the XboxOne and PS4 release.... PC will be last i'm afraid

[K.Walters]

i think it will be delayed to Q4 2014 because of the XboxOne and PS4 release.... PC will be last i'm afraid

Probably but since Next gen and PC coding or something is similar it wouldn`t take too long. Like I would expect a PC release around 2 weeks to 1 month after Next gen version, since consoles are a priority.

[S1LV3R_W0LF]

i think it will be delayed to Q4 2014 because of the XboxOne and PS4 release....  PC will be last i'm afraid 

Probably but since Next gen and PC coding or something is similar it wouldn`t take too long. Like I would expect a PC release around 2 weeks to 1 month after Next gen version, since consoles are a priority.

The game is first created to PC then ported to consoles, not the other way around. Even if it was priority thats how they code it, so an announcement for next gen and not PC would be stupid, because people would know of its existence, the only problem was the wait for the official release day, basically the same that is happening now with the PC version.

[Closson]

it's coming to PC in october or december! 2013 for sure!

Ha! It would have already been announced...

they'd never announce it before the console version released.

 

it forces pc gamers to buy both

 

more profit

[BlademanX]

Not so sure about a next gen version, If anything Rockstar are better off focusing on a new project for next gen then a possible sequel to GTA down the line for PS4 and Xbox One, It would be a lot of work to release GTA 5 for next gen as well as PC.

 

They can save time by porting the console version over to PC and getting to work on Agent for 2015 then once that is done possibly Red dead redemption 2 March 2016 and GTA 6. Which i dont expect before 2018 lol

[justin428]

Conservatively, I think rocks tar could EASILY sell 300k copies of the pc version worldwide. In fact, I'd expect it to be closer to 800k.

 

Now, a conservative pc price of $50 X 300k copies = $15,000,000.

 

How expensive can is possibly be to convert it to pc? I'd say its worth their time.

[Killerdude]

People are always saying that GTA IV was a shytti port, so why do you believe that GTA V will not be one as well? And on that note what also makes you believe that GTA V will be released for the PC? Because as far as I know Red Dead Redemption was never released for the PC.

There are two Rockstar titles that were released for PC since IV in 2008, and that are L.A. Noire and Max Payne 3. While the fomer one may not be the best port, it was alright and they did a decent job considering that the game doesn't even use the Rockstar Advanced Game Engine. It certainly was a better port than IV. MP3 on the other hand, does use RAGE, and it's the best optimized title from them yet. It runs great on a large range of PC's; it runs decently on low-end PC's and it uses the full capabilities of High-End PC's. The fact that RDR wasn't released for PC is not an argument. There are even more titles that weren't released for PC. There are several reasons for it, for example, the titles were either developed by the San Diego studio, or they are platform or console-manufacturer exclusives.

 

Why will V not be a crappy port on PC? Well, let's put it in that way: why would they do a great job with MP3, a title that is far less popular than GTA, and then go back to old habits with the newest installment of the GTA series? Let's be honest, that makes no sense whatsoever.

MP3 was developed simultaneously along with the Console versions, It was not a Port.

 

V will be a port.

[AlexJonesConspiracy]

its all a bit silly really isn't it. it's only a video game and some 300,000 sad acts are signing petitions. lol. f*cking hell....

[brian.]

Ports do not get better settings, higher resolution textures, more cars and peds.

 

it is not a port. It is the actual game Rockstar North has developed.

 

Iron Man 2 or Hulk are ports to PC. Nothing changed but platform. No new options menu, etc - just ported. Those are ports. IV is not a port, and neither will V be, unless you turn it on and go right into game and get the exact same ported experience. Since we will have to go through a menu, and can change many settings, and get an experience you cannot get on consoles (much more cars and peds, much higher fidelity and clearer image) - it is not a port.

 

On the other hand - GTA IV, and now V due to screenshots as proof, are OPTIMIZED versions to run on the consoles - in other words, it's not even the "full game" - you can do all the same stuff, but not see all the same stuff, as screenshots vs gameplay video proves to me (others entitled to their opinion) - what is 16gb on the console will be 32 gb of data on the PC - double the texture size, half the audio compression, much further draw distance due to massive frame buffer in comparison to what the consoles have to use for it.

 

So, just for the record, GTA IV, and the coming V, are not ports. They are enhanced, if you look at it one way, and complete if you look at it another. In no way was IV a mere port, V won't be either.

Edited August 6, 2013 by brian.

[S1LV3R_W0LF]

How can you say that? IV was a port, in fact Rockstar Vancouver said it here, reason why they couldn't include features that were only available for DX10 API, they said the game was ported from the consoles that were DX9 and that why the PC version had so many problems. In fact the codding had a lot of lines for the consoles and that was also the reason why the game needed a QUADCORE to run decently, because the code was for a 3 Cores device.

 

It had better textures and a few extras that allowed you to control the content and options, but the "skeleton" of the game, was meant to be for consoles and the game was first made for XBOX360 and then ported to PS3, reason why there was a delay because of the problems they had.

 

The only game that wasn't a port was Max Payne 3, that had features and capabilities not available on consoles, and I believe the same is being done with V,specially business wise. If they have a PC version made to take advantage of PC's capabilities they can port it to next gen consoles, if they have a console version that is later ported to PC it can't be ported for next gen consoles, people don't expect a game with DX9 features in a next gen console. So if Rockstar thought about all this they been working in it for quite some time, reason why there were leaks of people saying they were working on a PC version alongside consoles, which never happened before.

[brian.]

Bull the game needed quad core only for noobs with bad sysadmin skills and dirty PC's and pirates who got bad performance and glitches as a planned and programmed feature of the game. Game only needed a dual core. I had a 1.86ghz core 2 duo and ran just fine on medium settings at the time. I did not understand the gripes and chalked it up to people who simply have something wrong on their own end, because my computer was "the" minimum computer on the list, with slightly better gfx card at the time, and it ran fine for me. I couldn't max it, but I knew I couldn't anyway.

 

The quad core is a must to enable clip capture - nothing more - That was my only limitation, aside from obvious that I would have to sacrifice settings like high textures and such.

 

You are missing the point entirely. A port is an exact porting. Nothing changes - people are treating IV like a straight port. In fact, the fact that it was changed, and had to change, in order to use things for example that are only DX10 extensions to help the consoles stay afloat in a world where PC is 7 generations beyond them, yes, they could not just port it - so in your own words, mate, no offense at all, but it can't be a port.

 

Ports do not come with bigger textures and better, completely different shadow systems and shadow capabilities not found at all on the consoles (like dynamic shadows cast by all lights in the scene) - definition of a port is not compatible with GTA IV. It comes with many features not found in the original version, like clip recording, completely different shadow system, extra shadow system exclusive to itself, and so on - it is not a port, it is the pc version. Just like the xbox version and ps3 version are different from each other, in both technical terms and that they set on different platforms, pc version also is different - it is not a port.

 

Hulk is a port from ps2. With no changes. No advanced options. No better textures or anything like better shadows or lighting or anything like that - just a straight port. And that is not the case for IV. Some things port, sure. But people can't treat IV like a straight port - that is console fanboyism and denial and ignorance to reality of what makes a port to call IV a port, because it isn't one my friend, pure and simple, it does not qualify to be a straight port because it improves upon the original version, and removes optimizations (like shrunken textures = half the detail to make it run fast on consoles).

 

I've seen enough of people calling GTA IV a port or ragging on Rockstar Toronto. Problems with GTA IV were on the end user's side. Because my PC was minimum requirements and I was satisfied from day one. Those who complained A: were bad at computers B: were using laptops (unsupported for all gaming, all companies, laptops are unsupported) C: they were not meeting requirements. Doesn't matter if you have 4 gigs of ram when it's only DDR, etc. If you met the requirements, and your system is not a mess, the game was fine.

 

And performance has NOTHING to do with this discussion anyway. NOTHING. The question is whether IV is a port - and it is NOT. It is more advanced than its console cousins in many ways and comes with more featues - it is not a port, and neither will V be.

 

IT has to be the EXACT SAME GAME to be called a Port, and it will not be the exact same game. When you run IV on consoles you get no options other than limited control settings. You go splash screens then load right into the game, there is no chance for you to edit rendering settings or gameplay settings like traffic and ped density or anything like that - you go right into the game. When you load up IV on PC, you first must go to the menu. Be on a flash enabled social club updates and videos page, on the main menu. You can start game, or you can change settings. You can set it to run like the consoles, or you can set it to run much, much more fidelity and rendering features, like the affore mentioned completely different newer shadow technique for very high shadows and the shadows that are PC-exclusive in night shadows.

 

Having all of that means, by very definition, that IV is not a port. Hulk is a port. Go look at hulk, it is a straight port - no one put extra in hulk, just port it to work - that is what porting is. IV is not a port. V will not be either.

 

And V will have a lot more PC-exclusive sh*t than new shadows and a clip capture and higher reflective surfaces count. it will be a much more different thing, because 5 generations of PC hardware have come along.

 

And Rockstar GAMES NYC may be targeting the consoles people own right now, but the DEVELOPERS at Rockstar NORTH and whoever is tasked with getting the game on PC, is NOT. They are focused on the the 7 generations older tech that we have right now. So I fully expect V to be called a port like IV was, and I fully expect myself to have to explain why it is not, with a much longer list of added/exclusive features (like foliage density or phys-x for example) in the future.

 

Not going to be a port. You could call GTA V console a optimized port before you can deny GTA V is developed for newer hardware:

 

Edited August 7, 2013 by brian.

[jordy-w92]

I'm signer 301,244 ;-)

[MaddFool]

will this sh*t even get anything accomplished besides make all those signatures look like a 5 year old begging for a candy

[brian.]

Maddfool, good point. Probably more like a convicted criminal begging to go to jail or hoping that when the sun comes up it will become bright outside - because it's a given this game is going to PC lol. Rockstar North did not stop growing their knowledge and skills to wait for new consoles to come out. They kept growing with the times, attending sigraph, learning to put tesselation and stuff - it's an absolute given that the first time we understand why "V" is a new number, will be the PC version - because it is the only platform that has changed since IV. People say it takes a new generation for a number so they don't understand why V - well, PC is 7 generations beyond 7800gt now, so, it's time for a new number, we can see why in the Direct X 11 promo screens, just not in the dx9 to dx10ish equivilent opengl playstation gameplay video

 

 

Edited August 7, 2013 by brian.