trevors685 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 As a console owner, I don't give a f*ck bout graphics. It's just all these stupid PC gamers who think they're high and mighty. They're just upset because they need to wait until 2014 for the game. Can't have everything can you? Actually I believe its more of a "Performance" thing here. Consoles will lag.. a lot. While PCs won't. Easy as that but people just don't use the Performance word anymore. BTW you won't have mods bai. I will if I invest a few hundred in a new graphics card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druffmaul Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 The main reason GTA 1 and 2 never went any higher than "cult status" was that most people thought the graphics sucked. This is not a new thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mordecai Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Yes you should be thankful for PCs, because without PCs there would be no consoles or games at all, so learn to respect PCs.Keep denying it to yourself that you only care about gameplay. I am not saying it ike one should only care for graphics, but those who deny that they don't care at all about graphics are just a bunch of liars. Would you play V with SA graphics if it had the same gameplay? Come on, let's see if you're a true "gamer"... Oh wait, I am pretty sure you wouldn't. Oblvion and Morrowwind have some pretty sh*t graphics. Granted I just started playing them recently And I have the best time playing them. Hell, I clocked in more hours on those two games than on GTA IV. Graphics only matter a tad bit. As long as it looks decent/fluid animation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 We care about the gameplay and already had a GTA that was only for graphics ( GTA IV ). You're being a moron now, no offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sleepy Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Then you PC gamers should be thankful to us console gamers. There would be no way GTA would of got this big and popular just on PC. I do only care about gameplay. I went back and played GTA III and got 100% and had fun. I didn't care about the graphics. There is more too gaming than graphics. Graphics don't make a game better and that's why I don't enjoy GTA IV. Honestly I would cause I know I would still enjoy the gameplay. I bought GTA SA on PSN and having fun again. Graphics don't mean sh*t to me and to most console gamers. Maybe you PC gamers wouldn't but us console gamers don't care as long as we have fun. We should be thankful for GTA? Hahaha, don't make me laugh bro, YOU should be thankful for GTA because afterall, it was BORN ON A PC, not a console. And to be honest, I couldn't give two sh*ts if it never existed, it would've never bothered me as I didn't know about it in the first place, catch my drift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed72o Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 When parents started buying GTA for their children Note: I didn't say teenagers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyg0903 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 When the hardware got better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevors685 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 (edited) Then you PC gamers should be thankful to us console gamers. There would be no way GTA would of got this big and popular just on PC. I do only care about gameplay. I went back and played GTA III and got 100% and had fun. I didn't care about the graphics. There is more too gaming than graphics. Graphics don't make a game better and that's why I don't enjoy GTA IV. Honestly I would cause I know I would still enjoy the gameplay. I bought GTA SA on PSN and having fun again. Graphics don't mean sh*t to me and to most console gamers. Maybe you PC gamers wouldn't but us console gamers don't care as long as we have fun. We should be thankful for GTA? Hahaha, don't make me laugh bro, YOU should be thankful for GTA because afterall, it was BORN ON A PC, not a console. And to be honest, I couldn't give two sh*ts if it never existed, it would've never bothered me as I didn't know about it in the first place, catch my drift? And out of the total 65 million copies, what minuscule percentage went to PC? edit: no console wars. no...f*cking...console wars. We will all enjoy GTA V. Edited July 19, 2013 by trevors685 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis2252 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 people started caring about graphics because this is a new generation of kids who like pretty shiny things, over good story and gameplay. they havent experienced the great games back in the day. they just want things to look good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj2022 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Yknow if it wasn't for all the PC elitists and the fact that the price of a decent PC to run V is about the same as my pedalboard, I'd be a Pc gamer, but I refuse to spend over a grand to play games, I'd rather put £200 on the desk at Argos and walk out with a PS3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan_J Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 When the hardware got better. The hardware didn't get better though its the same as IV was, Rockstar are just putting what they've learned into practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sleepy Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Then you PC gamers should be thankful to us console gamers. There would be no way GTA would of got this big and popular just on PC. I do only care about gameplay. I went back and played GTA III and got 100% and had fun. I didn't care about the graphics. There is more too gaming than graphics. Graphics don't make a game better and that's why I don't enjoy GTA IV. Honestly I would cause I know I would still enjoy the gameplay. I bought GTA SA on PSN and having fun again. Graphics don't mean sh*t to me and to most console gamers. Maybe you PC gamers wouldn't but us console gamers don't care as long as we have fun. We should be thankful for GTA? Hahaha, don't make me laugh bro, YOU should be thankful for GTA because afterall, it was BORN ON A PC, not a console. And to be honest, I couldn't give two sh*ts if it never existed, it would've never bothered me as I didn't know about it in the first place, catch my drift? And out of the total 65 million copies, what minuscule percentage went to PC? Are you seriously aiming with your post and point at the PC sales by the retailers? Retailers don't even sell well bro, go look at digital sales and then talk. You seem to forget that companies such as Steam and Origin never release their sales numbers. Steam ran out of copies of IV during a winter sale. (And FYI, Rockstar gets full price for those keys, Steam choose to do the sales and whatnot, that's what I think at least). You console gamers should be thankful for PCs in the first place, without PCs there would be no consoles or games at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullworthAcademy Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Then you PC gamers should be thankful to us console gamers. There would be no way GTA would of got this big and popular just on PC. I do only care about gameplay. I went back and played GTA III and got 100% and had fun. I didn't care about the graphics. There is more too gaming than graphics. Graphics don't make a game better and that's why I don't enjoy GTA IV. Honestly I would cause I know I would still enjoy the gameplay. I bought GTA SA on PSN and having fun again. Graphics don't mean sh*t to me and to most console gamers. Maybe you PC gamers wouldn't but us console gamers don't care as long as we have fun. We should be thankful for GTA? Hahaha, don't make me laugh bro, YOU should be thankful for GTA because afterall, it was BORN ON A PC, not a console. And to be honest, I couldn't give two sh*ts if it never existed, it would've never bothered me as I didn't know about it in the first place, catch my drift? GTA 1 was on Playstation 1. It is on a console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sleepy Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Then you PC gamers should be thankful to us console gamers. There would be no way GTA would of got this big and popular just on PC. I do only care about gameplay. I went back and played GTA III and got 100% and had fun. I didn't care about the graphics. There is more too gaming than graphics. Graphics don't make a game better and that's why I don't enjoy GTA IV. Honestly I would cause I know I would still enjoy the gameplay. I bought GTA SA on PSN and having fun again. Graphics don't mean sh*t to me and to most console gamers. Maybe you PC gamers wouldn't but us console gamers don't care as long as we have fun. We should be thankful for GTA? Hahaha, don't make me laugh bro, YOU should be thankful for GTA because afterall, it was BORN ON A PC, not a console. And to be honest, I couldn't give two sh*ts if it never existed, it would've never bothered me as I didn't know about it in the first place, catch my drift? GTA 1 was on Playstation 1. It is on a console. I said born, not released. There's quite a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G D Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 When i gave a f*ck. To redx, the comment about IV made my day. You say that you only post "Fakketz" and "onionz" If that's your opinion, that's cool. but say it as a fact makes you look like an idiot. GTA IV have better graphics, (obviously) and GAME-PLAY. #$FAKKT!1 Atleast "sometimes" you don't let your opinion of IV cloud your judgements....unlike most 3 Era hardcores Fans here who can't accept the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backfire6 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 It's a fallacy to say gamers have no care for graphics. If gamers truly didn't care about this stuff, why do they go nuts when new devices like consoles are announced? I never do. In fact my next console will be the RetroN 5. Which will allow to play NES, Famicom, Genesis, Game Gear, Gameboy Advance Cartridges. I could care less about any of these useless boxes that have no backward capability. I'm going back to basics with emulation and The RetroN 5. I don't think I've ever gone insane over a new system ever in my 20 years of gaming. Well I went a little nuts when Snes/Super Famicom was created but after that I didn't really care for N64 or Ps1. In fact I didnt get a ps1 at launch I think I waited two years for the price to drop. Even the Snes was too price back then...I had to wait over a year for the price to drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.P.E Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 (edited) GTA has always been gameplay>graphics also I just wanna have a mini rant at anyone who has a problem with the mysterious dissapearing trees Did you ever think them trees may have dissapeared when they added the deeper customisation and property stuff. The stuff we all wanted and asked for so PLEASE JUST STOP WHINING ABOUT THE GRAPHICS. Just think when you buy your 1st bussiness maybe you will feel different about the graphics, or maybe you will think "F*** this I would rather have more trees on that cliff edge that looks virtually impossible to reach!!!" and even if you could reach it, then what?? What exactly is there to do up there anyway? I suppose you could dry bone the tree seeing as you love them so fu**ing much!! Yes I guess thats what you would do then cos since you started whining about the lack of trees in certain (pointless) parts of the map i have been trying to think of something else you could do up there but aint come up with anything yet?? mini rant over Edited July 19, 2013 by T.P.E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redx165 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 The guys who call others "graphics whores" are just butthurt console kiddies who are jealous of how much better PCs are in performance. Enjoy your port Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mista J Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I mean, it's not all about graphics, but I don't want a game on an Xbox 360 to look like a PS2 game. I'm all for Gameplay>Graphics but there's a limit. If GTA V looked like the pic I posted below I probably won't buy despite all the sh*t to do, looking at outdated sh*t get's boring after while, I can't play San Andreas on my 360, I feel like I'm force my self to play so I just pop it into my PS2 so at least I know the graphics belong to that console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultrabowser Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 GTA has always been gameplay>graphics Except with GTA IV, when the water looked beautifully but you couldn't dive. Also: Since when did we started writing titles like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redx165 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Then you PC gamers should be thankful to us console gamers. There would be no way GTA would of got this big and popular just on PC. I do only care about gameplay. I went back and played GTA III and got 100% and had fun. I didn't care about the graphics. There is more too gaming than graphics. Graphics don't make a game better and that's why I don't enjoy GTA IV. Honestly I would cause I know I would still enjoy the gameplay. I bought GTA SA on PSN and having fun again. Graphics don't mean sh*t to me and to most console gamers. Maybe you PC gamers wouldn't but us console gamers don't care as long as we have fun. We should be thankful for GTA? Hahaha, don't make me laugh bro, YOU should be thankful for GTA because afterall, it was BORN ON A PC, not a console. And to be honest, I couldn't give two sh*ts if it never existed, it would've never bothered me as I didn't know about it in the first place, catch my drift? You do know console is the reason why GTA got popular? You do know the money from the consoles they get out weigh the PC. You should thank Consoles for keeping GTA alive and improving it. They would never put $100 Million just for a PC version. They would however put $100 Million for a PS3/360 and PC. They put around 80-90 Million for RDR and that was just a console version. Max Payne 3 - I heard from the forum they put over $100 million on it for PS3/360 and PC GTA V - Seems like it putting the most in it. Do you really think they would get all that money with PC? Honestly no. So you don't want to be thankful to consoles? Don't become another PC elitist who think PC is king and does everything right. Truth be told Rockstar NEEDS consoles to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I can't help but feel like GTA IV focused more on the graphical detail rather than the amount of stuff to do. Glad GTA V is focusing on both equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafMetal Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 When random non-gta fans started playing GTAIV and never enjoyed the III era. Hate to bitch on people for not playing video games but f*ck, the ones who've only played IV say the stupidest crap ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afusensi Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 As a console owner, I don't give a f*ck bout graphics. It's just all these stupid PC gamers who think they're high and mighty. They're just upset because they need to wait until 2014 for the game. Can't have everything can you? Stupid? We choose to buy a better graphicscard than consoles have.. is that stupid? Betyou you the first that start praising the graphics on your xboxone or ps4. Muddaskunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ninja Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 For the guys saying it should be gameplay over graphics I agree but would you really buy a game from 2013 with sega genesis graphics I wouldn't even though i had one when the ps2 came out we were poor so don't laugh and if you don't know why you should laugh the genesis came out in 1989 and that was the only system I had until christmas 03 cookies cookies for everyone even trolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrassBoy Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Wait... Is this about graphics? Or about failed expectations? We were comparing pictures of the same game, not BF4 or something like that. A promo pic vs a in game pic. R* raised expectations because they've released amazing looking pictures and given the impression that that is what users will see when they play. They do this for two years straight and start showing sh*ttier quality gameplay videos. That's an expectations issue. It's like going to get fast food and your burger is a nasty compressed sh*t thing compared to a perfect picture. In the end it's the taste/texture that matters, but we still feel somewhat cheated by the fact it didn't meet our expectations. What makes it worse is that we're on the advent of a new generation with significantly more power and the promo pics could be achieved, but we don't get that... R* should have kept promo pics to true in-game rendered quality. Then release better quality if they release it for other platforms with more juice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iFight Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 same here...I don't care about the graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrassBoy Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 When random non-gta fans started playing GTAIV and never enjoyed the III era. Hate to bitch on people for not playing video games but f*ck, the ones who've only played IV say the stupidest crap ever... Also, what's with calling each other kids and holding on to age-related elitism. I've played GTA since its inception, I don't see how that gives me some quality above anyone who came to enjoy the series later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audiophile Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Then you PC gamers should be thankful to us console gamers. There would be no way GTA would of got this big and popular just on PC. I do only care about gameplay. I went back and played GTA III and got 100% and had fun. I didn't care about the graphics. There is more too gaming than graphics. Graphics don't make a game better and that's why I don't enjoy GTA IV. Honestly I would cause I know I would still enjoy the gameplay. I bought GTA SA on PSN and having fun again. Graphics don't mean sh*t to me and to most console gamers. Maybe you PC gamers wouldn't but us console gamers don't care as long as we have fun. We should be thankful for GTA? Hahaha, don't make me laugh bro, YOU should be thankful for GTA because afterall, it was BORN ON A PC, not a console. And to be honest, I couldn't give two sh*ts if it never existed, it would've never bothered me as I didn't know about it in the first place, catch my drift? You do know console is the reason why GTA got popular? You do know the money from the consoles they get out weigh the PC. You should thank Consoles for keeping GTA alive and improving it. They would never put $100 Million just for a PC version. They would however put $100 Million for a PS3/360 and PC. They put around 80-90 Million for RDR and that was just a console version. Max Payne 3 - I heard from the forum they put over $100 million on it for PS3/360 and PC GTA V - Seems like it putting the most in it. Do you really think they would get all that money with PC? Honestly no. So you don't want to be thankful to consoles? Don't become another PC elitist who think PC is king and does everything right. Truth be told Rockstar NEEDS consoles to survive. How about both of you stop being fangirls and labeling each other as "PC gamers" and "console gamers". Consider yourselves "gamers". The PC is where GTA started. That is a fact. Without PC GTA would not exist. It is because of consoles that GTA became so popular, another fact. No use arguing about it or wishing that one group of people doesn't get the game because of your own fanboy biases. I don't know what the hell you are going on about redx as the majority of people I have seen whining about the graphics are console players. Most likely not oldtime GTA fans but people that just started with the series about IV. I for one could care less about graphics in V. They are good enough for me and it just matters that the gameplay sounds like it is going to be amazing. No amount of fancy graphics can beat amazing gameplay. Stop blaming PC players for basically everything and viewing them as some foreign entity to gamers in general. Intel i5-4590 3.3GHz | EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB | 16GB Corsair Vengeance RAM | MSI Z97 G-45Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD and Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD | Audioengine A2 Speakers Corsair K70 RGB Rapidfire | Corsair M65 Mouse | Fractal Design R5 Case | EVGA G2 850WAudio-Technica M50x Headphones and Sennheiser HD 558 | LG 34UC88 1440p Ultrawide Curved Monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redx165 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Then you PC gamers should be thankful to us console gamers. There would be no way GTA would of got this big and popular just on PC. I do only care about gameplay. I went back and played GTA III and got 100% and had fun. I didn't care about the graphics. There is more too gaming than graphics. Graphics don't make a game better and that's why I don't enjoy GTA IV. Honestly I would cause I know I would still enjoy the gameplay. I bought GTA SA on PSN and having fun again. Graphics don't mean sh*t to me and to most console gamers. Maybe you PC gamers wouldn't but us console gamers don't care as long as we have fun. We should be thankful for GTA? Hahaha, don't make me laugh bro, YOU should be thankful for GTA because afterall, it was BORN ON A PC, not a console. And to be honest, I couldn't give two sh*ts if it never existed, it would've never bothered me as I didn't know about it in the first place, catch my drift? You do know console is the reason why GTA got popular? You do know the money from the consoles they get out weigh the PC. You should thank Consoles for keeping GTA alive and improving it. They would never put $100 Million just for a PC version. They would however put $100 Million for a PS3/360 and PC. They put around 80-90 Million for RDR and that was just a console version. Max Payne 3 - I heard from the forum they put over $100 million on it for PS3/360 and PC GTA V - Seems like it putting the most in it. Do you really think they would get all that money with PC? Honestly no. So you don't want to be thankful to consoles? Don't become another PC elitist who think PC is king and does everything right. Truth be told Rockstar NEEDS consoles to survive. How about both of you stop being fangirls and labeling each other as "PC gamers" and "console gamers". Consider yourselves "gamers". The PC is where GTA started. That is a fact. Without PC GTA would not exist. It is because of consoles that GTA became so popular, another fact. No use arguing about it or wishing that one group of people doesn't get the game because of your own fanboy biases. I don't know what the hell you are going on about redx as the majority of people I have seen whining about the graphics are console players. Most likely not oldtime GTA fans but people that just started with the series about IV. I for one could care less about graphics in V. They are good enough for me and it just matters that the gameplay sounds like it is going to be amazing. No amount of fancy graphics can beat amazing gameplay. Stop blaming PC players for basically everything and viewing them as some foreign entity to gamers in general. The only console gamers that are complaining are the new comers ( IV was their first GTA ) and the Causal crowd. I really don't see them on this forum. Maybe on other websites. It could be my luck. Who knows? People don't understand that I respect that PC was the one to first have GTA but some need to respect that without consoles GTA wouldn't be this big. I don't blame PC gamers I blame PC elitist, Causal gamers, and new comers for complaining about graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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