Dismemberment

[Paper Mario]

YAH! Yummy yum *sluuurp*

 

 

Oh I wanna say one thing! If we blow up people with RPGs and such, that doesn't necessarily mean the whole body will blow into pieces. The bodies can still fly away but more with limbs flying off aswell. It would be more hilarious and realistic to watch bodies with only 1 arm and a head to fly with other body parts flying through the sky hitting people! XD

Edited July 19, 2013 by III H1TMaN III

[Mokrie Dela]

It's always bugged me that a grenade can explode underneath someone's feet and they wouldn't have any damage on their body. VC had this iirc, so yes, yes, yes.

 

obviously a .22 in the arm won't do it, but a grenade/rocket would tear them limb for limb

[Mr. Tuna Taco]

I hope you all realize that we won't be able to do this .-.

[Lospuertafreeway]

I hope you all realize that we won't be able to do this .-.

Why not? I figure they took it out of gta 4 because it was a new engine.

[Mr. Sleepy]

Yes, I want to see dismemberment, this sh*t belongs in video games as much as it belongs in movies and cartoons.

[DeafMetal]

I'd rather not see it. Graphics are too realistic nowadays. In VC, the pedestrians didn't even look human, and the way they were dismembered was hilariously arcadey.

[Lospuertafreeway]

i want the guts from the corpse seeping out while i drag it behind my comet.

This lol

[uShield]

i want the guts from the corpse seeping out while i drag it behind my comet.

This lol

i third this rofl

[The Sullinator]

I think it would happen too often, and that it would eventually become annoying. So no.

 

 

i want the guts from the corpse seeping out while i drag it behind my comet.

 

 

Wait, can you actually drag bodies?

[ScottishHeist123]

Of course, as long as it is realistic. It was pretty stupid how in GTA IV people stayed in one piece after being launched by an RPG explosion.

What? I thought it was hilarious watching bodies fly in every which way possible and it never got old. Atleast to me.

 

Having them explode into pieces would be a novelty that would soon get tiring IMO.

This!

[gta5freemode4eva]

GTA has a bit more class than Saw I thought. MP3/RDR style is perfect.

what is this "class" you are talking about? the only limitation here is people cringing over pixel gore. when such limitation desists, realism becomes possible.

Dismemberment doesn't suit GTA now.

GTA has got more style and substance than that and it doesn't need to overwhelm the player with limbs flying off everywhere because it has so much more to offer the gamer. Its a step above other games that need that as a unique selling point.

SA had it, but SA even though it were rated as an Adult game, c'mon, it was a young adolescent version of what we are about to get. Manhunt had all that gore because that is what the game was about. Same goes for Saw.

GTA isn't about hacking off peoples limbs. The game has grown up from that sh*t. It doesn't need it. R* might put it as a cheat code though but I can't see it being in the game as standard.

[ScottishHeist123]

GTA has a bit more class than Saw I thought. MP3/RDR style is perfect.

what is this "class" you are talking about? the only limitation here is people cringing over pixel gore. when such limitation desists, realism becomes possible.

Dismemberment doesn't suit GTA now.

GTA has got more style and substance than that and it doesn't need to overwhelm the player with limbs flying off everywhere because it has so much more to offer the gamer. Its a step above other games that need that as a unique selling point.

SA had it, but SA even though it were rated as an Adult game, c'mon, it was a young adolescent version of what we are about to get. Manhunt had all that gore because that is what the game was about. Same goes for Saw.

GTA isn't about hacking off peoples limbs. The game has grown up from that sh*t. It doesn't need it. R* might put it as a cheat code though but I can't see it being in the game as standard.

Agreed absolutely. GTA doesn't need dismemberment now to be a fun game.

[Lospuertafreeway]

GTA has a bit more class than Saw I thought. MP3/RDR style is perfect.

what is this "class" you are talking about? the only limitation here is people cringing over pixel gore. when such limitation desists, realism becomes possible.

Dismemberment doesn't suit GTA now.

GTA has got more style and substance than that and it doesn't need to overwhelm the player with limbs flying off everywhere because it has so much more to offer the gamer. Its a step above other games that need that as a unique selling point.

SA had it, but SA even though it were rated as an Adult game, c'mon, it was a young adolescent version of what we are about to get. Manhunt had all that gore because that is what the game was about. Same goes for Saw.

GTA isn't about hacking off peoples limbs. The game has grown up from that sh*t. It doesn't need it. R* might put it as a cheat code though but I can't see it being in the game as standard.

Agreed absolutely. GTA doesn't need dismemberment now to be a fun game.

Lets agree to disagree.

[Trund]

I'm pretty sure we will never see dismemberment again in any future GTA games. As the graphics become more and more photorealistic things like that just can't be done anymore without starting a huge controversy and risk the game getting banned in certain regions. R* and TakeTwo aren't that stupid. Even though they make fun games, their main goal is to make money, like every other company, and that can't be done by risking bad sales (because of banned regions or heavy controversies).

[GTAVTheHeat]

Dismemberment is ultraviolent, and while gta does contain violence, it would cripple its standing. Red Dead and Max Payne were violent enough with gunshot wounds being visible but I think thats as far as it needs to go in GTA. This of course is just choice being that I didn't fancy the chainsaw in Vice City or San Andreas.

 

 

I'm pretty sure we will never see dismemberment again in any future GTA games. As the graphics become more and more photorealistic things like that just can't be done anymore without starting a huge controversy and risk the game getting banned in certain regions. R* and TakeTwo aren't that stupid. Even though they make fun games, their main goal is to make money, like every other company, and that can't be done by risking bad sales (because of banned regions or heavy controversies).

 

Good point, couldn't be more right.

Edited July 19, 2013 by GTAVTheHeat

[Lospuertafreeway]

The only reason rockstar stopped using dismemberment is because its really difficult to do with the rage engine not because of controversy and rockstar isnt all about making money because if they were they would release yearly.

[HoleInTheSky]

Without a doubt. Too violent? Look at the game rating. True Crime: NYC had this, in that you could shoot off limbs with heavy weapons or shotguns, legs would go flying in nearby explosions, which GTA is long overdue for. It's not going to turn people into psychos nor will it dominate the game, it's a progression from GTA IV's ragdoll physics which was more violent than previous GTAs. Less cartoonie and more "ouch, that sh*t looks painful".

[GTAVTheHeat]

Without a doubt. Too violent? Look at the game rating. True Crime: NYC had this, in that you could shoot off limbs with heavy weapons or shotguns, legs would go flying in nearby explosions, which GTA is long overdue for. It's not going to turn people into psychos nor will it dominate the game, it's a progression from GTA IV's ragdoll physics which was more violent than previous GTAs. Less cartoonie and more "ouch, that sh*t looks painful".

GTAIVs ragdoll physics were hilarious. And like Trund said, if dismemberment is in the game, it WILL be banned in other countries.

[Trund]

It was said here before anyways, something like this isn't necessary for GTA. If you want dismemberment you can play other games. Most people don't understand that GTA is already at the very edge due to its violence, something like this would push the game completely off it, leading in cut games in certain regions, or even banned, and an AO rating in America.

 

The problem is that GTA is acting as a real-world simulation, and the better the graphics become the more believable all of this gets. The problem isn't even the adults playing it, the people who are meant to buy and play the game, the problem is that A LOT of little kids are also playing this game and the more realistic it looks the more it could affect them, and preventing kids to play the game is inevitable. Not to mention that there are people that play these kind of games that are already not exactly sane.

 

Yeah for many this looks like a very unrealistic scenario, but trust me it's not as silly as it sounds.

[AtomicPunk]

When I chuck a grenade, goddamnit I wanna see body parts!! It's perfectly natural. In that situation.

[Simon_V]

I voted for YES, but actually I would prefer to see this in MANHUNT 3.

[Mr. Sleepy]

Are people really saying that it is too much to have it in V due to photorealistic graphics? What?

Might as well stop watching movies because they portray real like graphics too, you know?

 

This game is an 18+, who doesn't want to see gore then don't buy it.

I for one want to have dismemberment in it and gore and body parts flying around, if you're too much of a pus to handle it in a game then don't buy it.

This sh*t is spread everywhere in the media but if a video game has it, it is too much?

The f*ck kind of a logic is this?

[GTAVTheHeat]

I'd also like to add and remind people of this:

 

"In October 2011, Rockstar creative vice president Dan Houser told Famitsu that Rockstar is intentionally avoiding developing in the first-person shooter genre. "We're deliberately avoiding that right now", he said, according to a 1UP.com translation. "It's in our DNA to avoid doing what other companies are doing. I suppose you could say that Max Payne 3 is something close to an FPS, but there are really unique aspects to the setting and gameplay there, too, not just in the story. You have to have originality in your games; you have to have some kind of interesting message. You could say that the goalpoint of Rockstar is to have the players really feel what we're trying to do". Houser went on to say that Rockstar has "made new genres by ourselves with games like the GTA series. We didn't rely on testimonials in a business textbook to do what we've done. I think we succeeded precisely because we didn't concentrate on profit... If we make the sort of games we want to play, then we believe people are going to buy them"

 

Now to me this translates to having taste while making video games. The focus isn't to have dismemberment, thats tasteless and isn't what they're trying to accomplish. Also playing the "realism" card for this topic isn't viable. Not to mention, if I had to choose to between getting the same great content to everyone and satisfying a tasteless endeavor which would cause unnecessary problems both sales wise and credibility wise. It would be easy to decide. Also it wouldn't make sense, say if a grenade went off and it didn't immediately kill you, but it would take off a limb and then what? You might as well be dead, and for what, the cost of your need for satiated realism? This is not gears of war.

 

 

[ryan_J]

Would it be a nice feature? Yes if implemented properly.

Would it be a necessary feature? Probably not.

[Trund]

 

Are people really saying that it is too much to have it in V due to photorealistic graphics? What?

Might as well stop watching movies because they portray real like graphics too, you know?

 

This game is an 18+, who doesn't want to see gore then don't buy it.

I for one want to have dismemberment in it and gore and body parts flying around, if you're too much of a pus to handle it in a game then don't buy it.

This sh*t is spread everywhere in the media but if a video game has it, it is too much?

The f*ck kind of a logic is this?

With that kind of logic you could put in many things in a game. How about be a terrorist who blows up the city? Why not fly airplanes into buildings that then collaps and kill thousands? Why not have kids in the game? And why can't you eat human flesh in the game, I mean real people do it and it's in movies? Oh yeah, let's also be completely racist to any foreigner in the video game, I mean it happens in real life!

 

Fact is that there are limits to everything, and this is definitely one limit GTA has. I can understand that you want certain things in the game, but some things just won't be in it. And comparing games with movies is a little silly, because movies you watch, in games you are responsible for your actions, something like this is completely different. I'm not against violence in games, and dismemberment fits into some games, it just doesn't with GTA, period. I also believe that some people don't really understand what GTA is about, it seems like many on here think it's a game that's all about violence and killing people, do you people actually know that thinking like this is what makes GTA have a bad reputation to the general audience? Honestly, this thread is as pointless as the threads about kids in the game.

[Lospuertafreeway]

Are people really saying that it is too much to have it in V due to photorealistic graphics? What?

Might as well stop watching movies because they portray real like graphics too, you know?

 

This game is an 18+, who doesn't want to see gore then don't buy it.

I for one want to have dismemberment in it and gore and body parts flying around, if you're too much of a pus to handle it in a game then don't buy it.

This sh*t is spread everywhere in the media but if a video game has it, it is too much?

The f*ck kind of a logic is this?

With that kind of logic you could put in many things in a game. How about be a terrorist who blows up the city? Why not fly airplanes into buildings that then collaps and kill thousands? Why not have kids in the game? And why can't you eat human flesh in the game, I mean real people do it and it's in movies? Oh yeah, let's also be completely racist to any foreigner in the video game, I mean it happens in real life!

 

Fact is that there are limits to everything, and this is definitely one limit GTA has. I can understand that you want certain things in the game, but some things just won't be in it. And comparing games with movies is a little silly, because movies you watch, in games you are responsible for your actions, something like this is completely different. I'm not against violence in games, and dismemberment fits into some games, it just doesn't with GTA, period. I also believe that some people don't really understand what GTA is about, it seems like many on here think it's a game that's all about violence and killing people, do you people actually know that thinking like this is what makes GTA have a bad reputation to the general audience? Honestly, this thread is as pointless as the threads about kids in the game.

What do you mean responsible for your actions? That's ridiculous.

[GTAVTheHeat]

Are people really saying that it is too much to have it in V due to photorealistic graphics? What?

Might as well stop watching movies because they portray real like graphics too, you know?

 

This game is an 18+, who doesn't want to see gore then don't buy it.

I for one want to have dismemberment in it and gore and body parts flying around, if you're too much of a pus to handle it in a game then don't buy it.

This sh*t is spread everywhere in the media but if a video game has it, it is too much?

The f*ck kind of a logic is this?

With that kind of logic you could put in many things in a game. How about be a terrorist who blows up the city? Why not fly airplanes into buildings that then collaps and kill thousands? Why not have kids in the game? And why can't you eat human flesh in the game, I mean real people do it and it's in movies? Oh yeah, let's also be completely racist to any foreigner in the video game, I mean it happens in real life!

 

Fact is that there are limits to everything, and this is definitely one limit GTA has. I can understand that you want certain things in the game, but some things just won't be in it. And comparing games with movies is a little silly, because movies you watch, in games you are responsible for your actions, something like this is completely different. I'm not against violence in games, and dismemberment fits into some games, it just doesn't with GTA, period. I also believe that some people don't really understand what GTA is about, it seems like many on here think it's a game that's all about violence and killing people, do you people actually know that thinking like this is what makes GTA have a bad reputation to the general audience? Honestly, this thread is as pointless as the threads about kids in the game.

What do you mean responsible for your actions? That's ridiculous.

I think he means, there's consequences for your actions, but its not in terms of good and evil like other games. Moral good and evil standing was never a part of gta, but it was in other games. So I'm surprised you'd comment on that out of everything he stated. Also in movies you never go tot choose, you just heard, and saw what story they were conveying, as in games you more or less saw and heard the story at your own pace.

[Lock n' Stock]

 

GTA has a bit more class than Saw I thought. MP3/RDR style is perfect.

what is this "class" you are talking about? the only limitation here is people cringing over pixel gore. when such limitation desists, realism becomes possible.

Dismemberment doesn't suit GTA now.

GTA has got more style and substance than that and it doesn't need to overwhelm the player with limbs flying off everywhere because it has so much more to offer the gamer. Its a step above other games that need that as a unique selling point.

SA had it, but SA even though it were rated as an Adult game, c'mon, it was a young adolescent version of what we are about to get. Manhunt had all that gore because that is what the game was about. Same goes for Saw.

GTA isn't about hacking off peoples limbs. The game has grown up from that sh*t. It doesn't need it. R* might put it as a cheat code though but I can't see it being in the game as standard.

I agree with this. The reason why dismembering was in 3D Era games was because the violence was more cartoonish and exaggerated. GTA V can certainly have a good amount of gritty violence (like RDR or MP3) but decapitations and other dismemberment would feel out of place in a game with this amount of class and style.

 

To be honest though, I wouldn't mind there being decapitations in GTA V if katanas were to return (I hope). It would make a good amount of shock value with the violence being more realistic. I still remember the first time I saw my friend decapitate a prostitute in Vice City when I was about 7. Scared the sh*t out of me.

[Hitmanboss]

Alot of these posts are infuriating me a tad bit. What is this talk of "class" that dismemberment can't be in the game. That's plain bullsh*t, it can be implemented in the game if done in a realistic manner. Realism has nothing to do with not having dismemberment, imagine someone getting hit by a rocket in real life, do you think the body would remain whole after that? No. I have no problem with decapitation and dismemberment because there are realistic ways it can be implemented without the over the top sh*t. RDR and Max payne 3 wounds were cool but it's f*cking corny to see a whole body after a large explosion hits someone, Body parts dont have to disappear from gunshots but explosives would be more realistic.

[Lock n' Stock]

 

Alot of these posts are infuriating me a tad bit. What is this talk of "class" that dismemberment can't be in the game. That's plain bullsh*t, it can be implemented in the game if done in a realistic manner. Realism has nothing to do with not having dismemberment, imagine someone getting hit by a rocket in real life, do you think the body would remain whole after that? No. I have no problem with decapitation and dismemberment because there are realistic ways it can be implemented without the over the top sh*t. RDR and Max payne 3 wounds were cool but it's f*cking corny to see a whole body after a large explosion hits someone, Body parts dont have to disappear from gunshots but explosives would be more realistic.

On second thought, they should bring back dismemberment in GTA V if they're more realistic and less cartoonish. Blowing people up could result in limbs getting torn off, like Becker's grisly fate in Max Payne 3.