ItsOnlyAce Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 DISPUTE OVER LOUD MUSIC TURNS DEADLY On the evening of Nov. 23, 2012, Davis and three friends were hanging out at the mall before stopping at a gas station for refreshments. Rap music was blaring from the teens' Dodge Durango's stereo system when Dunn, 46, pulled into the adjacent parking spot. His girlfriend went into the store and Dunn rolled down his window to ask the teens to lower the music. "The front seat passenger turned it down a little bit," Phillips said, going on to explain that Davis then either told his friend to raise the volume or leaned forward from his right rear passenger seat to do so himself. The teens and Dunn began yelling at one another, and Dunn — who had a legal carry-conceal permit — claims the boys were speaking to him in a threatening manner and says he saw what he believed to be a shotgun inside their vehicle, apparently pointed in his direction. He said he feared for his life. "Michael Dunn goes to his glove compartment, pulls out his 9 millimeter — 'You're not going to talk to me like that!' — fires three shots right into Jordan's door, killing Jordan," Phillips alleges. Of the 10 shots that Dunn fired, three struck Davis and nine tore through the vehicle. His friends were unharmed and initially began to drive away before realizing their friend was dead. Dozens of witnesses gave accounts to police, including an officer already nearby at the time performing a DUI arrest. Dunn fled the scene, but witnesses took down his license plate number and he was arrested the next day. I don't exactly know what the deal is with Florida lately, but its really turning out to be a sh*t hole. Let's see if the Florida, "Stand Your Ground" law will stand its ground in this case. Here's the link to the article via MSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
018361 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Well, that was a quick transition from one event to the next. It usually takes about a week. Anyway, before I go and give my opinion I should probably wait for the "real" details to emerge from this. The news people try to rush news out so fast now that they don't even care to check if their info is correct anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunWrath Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Well, that was a quick transition from one event to the next. It usually takes about a week. Anyway, before I go and give my opinion I should probably wait for the "real" details to emerge from this. The news people try to rush news out so fast now that they don't even care to check if their info is correct anymore. Seems like a hero to me. I've always wanted to kill the guy that blared his music next to me.. but I agree with your statement there, 018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mordecai Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 DISPUTE OVER LOUD MUSIC TURNS DEADLY On the evening of Nov. 23, 2012, Davis and three friends were hanging out at the mall before stopping at a gas station for refreshments. Rap music was blaring from the teens' Dodge Durango's stereo system when Dunn, 46, pulled into the adjacent parking spot. His girlfriend went into the store and Dunn rolled down his window to ask the teens to lower the music. "The front seat passenger turned it down a little bit," Phillips said, going on to explain that Davis then either told his friend to raise the volume or leaned forward from his right rear passenger seat to do so himself. The teens and Dunn began yelling at one another, and Dunn — who had a legal carry-conceal permit — claims the boys were speaking to him in a threatening manner and says he saw what he believed to be a shotgun inside their vehicle, apparently pointed in his direction. He said he feared for his life. "Michael Dunn goes to his glove compartment, pulls out his 9 millimeter — 'You're not going to talk to me like that!' — fires three shots right into Jordan's door, killing Jordan," Phillips alleges. Of the 10 shots that Dunn fired, three struck Davis and nine tore through the vehicle. His friends were unharmed and initially began to drive away before realizing their friend was dead. Dozens of witnesses gave accounts to police, including an officer already nearby at the time performing a DUI arrest. Dunn fled the scene, but witnesses took down his license plate number and he was arrested the next day. I don't exactly know what the deal is with Florida lately, but its really turning out to be a sh*t hole. Let's see if the Florida, "Stand Your Ground" law will stand its ground in this case. Here's the link to the article via MSN Goddamit, what the hell man? Why are we losin bruthas to the man? Good thing I don't live in Florida anymore. Though, I feel like he's going to go be guilty. Off Topic: HI ACE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 This seems a little more clear cut. Dunn's life was not in danger. Just as was my opinion in that other trial, just because you think you're going to die doesn't mean you should shoot someone. Sounds like in this case, there's enough evidence to convict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I cucked Alex Jones Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 So I can shoot people if I think they have a gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pizza Delivery Guy Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Lots of things I'm sure will turn up on both sides of the case. My only question is which one was the one that played violent video games? That will be the deciding factor on which side wins as it always ends that way. Brilliant judicial system we have. Can't say I have a side on this one yet. We'll have to wait and see what comes up later before I take one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Being a Florida resident, I can assure you that everybody who's lived there for over five years is bound to kill somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunWrath Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 So I can shoot people if I think they have a gun? In Texas you can basically get away with murder. But this will definitely end up with him guilty I'm sure, I mean he only has his word against theirs it seems but that may not be enough to convict, unless of course there's a camera or some eyewitness accounts to state other wise. But just because you 'feel' threatened because he 'thinks' he saw a shotgun pointed at him is not enough to pull the trigger. Which I haven't followed this case much so I really can't share factual statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggsy pls Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 That "shotgun" was probably a hair brush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Don't they have cameras at gas stations? Hopefully they recorded what went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mordecai Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 This reminds me of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackass2009 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 ... Get your sh*t together, Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 So I can shoot people if I think they have a gun? Well, in that case, I'm taking my neighbor to Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscoLehGo Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 So I can shoot people if I think they have a gun? Better safe than sorry, boy! YEEEHAAAWWW!!! *Saddles up on horse and rides off into the Florida sunset* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Sounds like that guy was just a rocking chair on the front porch away from lil weasel's ultimate fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunkyman Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 His case seems extremely week, he'll likely get prison time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mista J Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Yeah, there's no way he's walking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBear Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 You Americans, I swear you have to rely on guns for everything. Over here if someone's threatening you, you don't pull out a gun and kill them, you man up and fight them. Guns aren't necessary, if you're a real man you use what God gave you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 You Americans, I swear you have to rely on guns for everything.Over here if someone's threatening you, you don't pull out a gun and kill them, you man up and fight them. Guns aren't necessary, if you're a real man you use what God gave you. Somehow over the course of history Americans managed to take that exact logic and apply it to guns. Why, I may never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mista J Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 You Americans, I swear you have to rely on guns for everything.Over here if someone's threatening you, you don't pull out a gun and kill them, you man up and fight them. Guns aren't necessary, if you're a real man you use what God gave you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunkyman Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 You Americans, I swear you have to rely on guns for everything.Over here if someone's threatening you, you don't pull out a gun and kill them, you man up and fight them. Guns aren't necessary, if you're a real man you use what God gave you. Anyway, the whole "a real man would do X" style of argument is almost completely devoid of merit. People typically only use this argument when they don't have anything particularly meaningful to say, so they have to use something which sounds nice, makes you inherently seem superior, and is completely unfalsifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBear Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) You Americans, I swear you have to rely on guns for everything.Over here if someone's threatening you, you don't pull out a gun and kill them, you man up and fight them. Guns aren't necessary, if you're a real man you use what God gave you. Meh, I stand by my point, guns are nothing more than over compensation. OK, I understand what you mean, however I'm not trying to make myself look big, my point is perfectly valid though. Edited July 18, 2013 by brownbear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackass2009 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 You Americans, I swear you have to rely on guns for everything.Over here if someone's threatening you, you don't pull out a gun and kill them, you man up and fight them. Guns aren't necessary, if you're a real man you use what God gave you. Meh, I stand by my point, guns are nothing more than over compensation. A little cannon that explodes death at people? Sometimes rapidly? Nah, can't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscoLehGo Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 You Americans, I swear you have to rely on guns for everything.Over here if someone's threatening you, you don't pull out a gun and kill them, you man up and fight them. Guns aren't necessary, if you're a real man you use what God gave you. Somehow over the course of history Americans managed to take that exact logic and apply it to guns. Why, I may never know. One word boy, INJUNS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 This seems a little more clear cut. Dunn's life was not in danger. Just as was my opinion in that other trial, just because you think you're going to die doesn't mean you should shoot someone. Sounds like in this case, there's enough evidence to convict. This. The whole "stand your ground law" is being horribly misinterpreted, even by the so called lawyers... I've read the Florida statute time and time again. No where does it say that a person is justified in using deadly force simply because they fear for their life. What it in fact says is that a person is justified in using force against force and only justifies the use of deadly force if the person has exhausted every last resort. Not to comment on the Zimmerman trial, but at least in this case there can be no mistake that the man had absolutely no reasonable fear for his life. He's a murderer short and simple. brownbear, What about if the other person you have a problem with has a gun? Do you use what "God gave you" then? QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mista J Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 This seems a little more clear cut. Dunn's life was not in danger. Just as was my opinion in that other trial, just because you think you're going to die doesn't mean you should shoot someone. Sounds like in this case, there's enough evidence to convict. brownbear, What about if the other person you have a problem with has a gun? Do you use what "God gave you" then? It's obvious, he'll use his hands and get gunned down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBear Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 This seems a little more clear cut. Dunn's life was not in danger. Just as was my opinion in that other trial, just because you think you're going to die doesn't mean you should shoot someone. Sounds like in this case, there's enough evidence to convict. brownbear, What about if the other person you have a problem with has a gun? Do you use what "God gave you" then? It's obvious, he'll use his hands and get gunned down. Well, in that case I'd condone the use of a gun. Of course, if you're living in an area where you are likely to face gun crime then it may not be a bad idea to own one. However, I was talking about the general idea of a gun, I think they're unnecessary and cowardly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 This seems a little more clear cut. Dunn's life was not in danger. Just as was my opinion in that other trial, just because you think you're going to die doesn't mean you should shoot someone. Sounds like in this case, there's enough evidence to convict. brownbear, What about if the other person you have a problem with has a gun? Do you use what "God gave you" then? It's obvious, he'll use his hands and get gunned down. Well, in that case I'd condone the use of a gun. Of course, if you're living in an area where you are likely to face gun crime then it may not be a bad idea to own one. However, I was talking about the general idea of a gun, I think they're unnecessary and cowardly. Yeah, I'd tend to agree with you, but anymore these days it's to the point where everyone feels like everyone else has a gun, so they need to as well. I remember hearing about police departments in the early 20th century... Apparently it was thought at that time that you weren't a good cop if you needed a gun. QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 You Americans, I swear you have to rely on guns for everything.Over here if someone's threatening you, you don't pull out a gun and kill them, you man up and fight them. Guns aren't necessary, if you're a real man you use what God gave you. Somehow over the course of history Americans managed to take that exact logic and apply it to guns. Why, I may never know. One word boy, INJUNS Gad damn NEGGERS!!! Funny sh*t that America believes in. I just can't wait to hear Everyoneone's mid trial opinions of this whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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