R* replied about driving physics concern

[GTAaLEX117]

 

 

 

"We're sure driving is more fun than it's ever been in a GTA" - Rockstar

From how it looks that is a lie. Arcade handling sucks.

 

They think arcade = fun

 

Any type of handling can be fun but IV's handling -- some what realistic to these people -- wasn't fun. Rockstar feels they need to dumb down the handling and make it effortless to be fun. I guess Forza isn't fun because it's too realistic huh? Thats why millions play the damn game.

 

 

Exactly, you don't need to master the driving skills in this game and there's no satisfaction out of driving... at all. When I first played SRIII I literally quit out after hopping in a car. Granted, V doesn't look that bad but it looks fairly close.

 

Also, over time I think they'd adapt to it and learn how good it really was - to drive realistically. Arcade sh*t gets boring, fast. No replay value for me because there's nothing to learn, or master.

 

Just because it's a little less exaggerated than IV doesn't mean that driving skill is gone, even in the III era, cars were notoriously hard to control under certain circumstances.

Also, IV's driving wasn't really realistic...excessive body roll? Incredibly soft suspension? No grip? Slow acceleration?

Edited September 16, 2013 by GTAaLEX117

[Cinoy]

 

 

 

 

"We're sure driving is more fun than it's ever been in a GTA" - Rockstar

From how it looks that is a lie. Arcade handling sucks.

 

They think arcade = fun

 

Any type of handling can be fun but IV's handling -- some what realistic to these people -- wasn't fun. Rockstar feels they need to dumb down the handling and make it effortless to be fun. I guess Forza isn't fun because it's too realistic huh? Thats why millions play the damn game.

 

 

Exactly, you don't need to master the driving skills in this game and there's no satisfaction out of driving... at all. When I first played SRIII I literally quit out after hopping in a car. Granted, V doesn't look that bad but it looks fairly close.

 

Also, over time I think they'd adapt to it and learn how good it really was - to drive realistically. Arcade sh*t gets boring, fast. No replay value for me because there's nothing to learn, or master.

 

Just because it's a little less exaggerated than IV doesn't mean that driving skill is gone, even in the III era, cars were notoriously hard to control udner certain circumstances.

Also, IV's driving wasn't really realistic...excessive body roll? Incredibly soft suspension? No grip? Slow acceleration?

 

 

thats realistic grip. If you forgot in GTA IV you usually floor the acelerator... In real life the car would skid too when cornering at full speed........... trust me its more realistic

[mooonlights]

 

 

 

 

"We're sure driving is more fun than it's ever been in a GTA" - Rockstar

From how it looks that is a lie. Arcade handling sucks.

 

They think arcade = fun

 

Any type of handling can be fun but IV's handling -- some what realistic to these people -- wasn't fun. Rockstar feels they need to dumb down the handling and make it effortless to be fun. I guess Forza isn't fun because it's too realistic huh? Thats why millions play the damn game.

 

 

Exactly, you don't need to master the driving skills in this game and there's no satisfaction out of driving... at all. When I first played SRIII I literally quit out after hopping in a car. Granted, V doesn't look that bad but it looks fairly close.

 

Also, over time I think they'd adapt to it and learn how good it really was - to drive realistically. Arcade sh*t gets boring, fast. No replay value for me because there's nothing to learn, or master.

 

Just because it's a little less exaggerated than IV doesn't mean that driving skill is gone, even in the III era, cars were notoriously hard to control under certain circumstances.

Also, IV's driving wasn't really realistic...excessive body roll? Incredibly soft suspension? No grip? Slow acceleration?

 

 

I was expecting an improvement over IV..

[exe_order_66]

you know whats funny people complained but did any video you saw have the player customize the car to its max settings and see how it does on an open road. I havent YET! I have an idea on what Rockstar is trying to do.

 

I think that at first yes the car's handling would be crappy but the more you upgrade and customize it the car would be more responsive. faster. more agile.

 

It's a F-ing learning curve people. when you play the game, customize the car to the max and then come back here and tell us what happened.

 

All these videos have people playing and yet their not doing any customizing on the cars.

 

PERIOD! if your a getaway driver id think that would be important. the Transporter does it! lol.

[mooonlights]

This is perfect driving physics to me - completely realistic.

 

 

[celozzip]

 

 

I was expecting an improvement over IV..

 

does it feel as bad as people seem to think?

[GTAaLEX117]

thats realistic grip. If you forgot in GTA IV you usually floor the acelerator... In real life the car would skid too when cornering at full speed........... trust me its more realistic

 

Actually, it's more likely that the car would lift on two wheels rather than skid on ice. It depends a lot on the tires. From what I've seen, cars in V still skid a lot when cornering at high speed, especially low and medium end cars.

Edited September 16, 2013 by GTAaLEX117

[bish0p2004]

This is perfect driving physics to me - completely realistic.

 

 

Damn, that looks really good actually...better than IV and MUCH better than V.

Edited September 16, 2013 by bish0p2004

[Skeloton]

Bish0p, that's because its using the Cryengine (well one of them at least.)

[bish0p2004]

Bish0p, that's because its using the Cryengine (well one of them at least.)

Yeah, this is the first time I've seen it. The damage looks fantastic too.

[Skeloton]

I think that was modded because when I last played Crysis I banged the cars up something rotten and the damage was insignificant.

 

 

Well until I blew the car up and turned it into a smouldering wreck.

Edited September 16, 2013 by Skeloton

[mooonlights]

 

Bish0p, that's because its using the Cryengine (well one of them at least.)

Yeah, this is the first time I've seen it. The damage looks fantastic too.

 

 

For whatever reason developers seem adamant that you cannot have realistic driving/damage in a game because it isn't 'fun' or gets 'annoying'. I think if they implemented it the reaction would be overwhelmingly positive (at least, from people who can actually/want to learn to master something). People who say they like V's driving are just trying to make the best of a sh*tty situation and have an optimistic outlook on it.

[KillaDanny]

 

 

 

 

 

"We're sure driving is more fun than it's ever been in a GTA" - Rockstar

From how it looks that is a lie. Arcade handling sucks.

 

They think arcade = fun

 

Any type of handling can be fun but IV's handling -- some what realistic to these people -- wasn't fun. Rockstar feels they need to dumb down the handling and make it effortless to be fun. I guess Forza isn't fun because it's too realistic huh? Thats why millions play the damn game.

 

 

Exactly, you don't need to master the driving skills in this game and there's no satisfaction out of driving... at all. When I first played SRIII I literally quit out after hopping in a car. Granted, V doesn't look that bad but it looks fairly close.

 

Also, over time I think they'd adapt to it and learn how good it really was - to drive realistically. Arcade sh*t gets boring, fast. No replay value for me because there's nothing to learn, or master.

 

Just because it's a little less exaggerated than IV doesn't mean that driving skill is gone, even in the III era, cars were notoriously hard to control udner certain circumstances.

Also, IV's driving wasn't really realistic...excessive body roll? Incredibly soft suspension? No grip? Slow acceleration?

 

 

thats realistic grip. If you forgot in GTA IV you usually floor the acelerator... In real life the car would skid too when cornering at full speed........... trust me its more realistic

 

If you are saying that GTA IV's handling was realistic than you obviously never drived a car in real life..

 

 

 

For whatever reason developers seem adamant that you cannot have realistic driving/damage in a game because it isn't 'fun' or gets 'annoying'. I think if they implemented it the reaction would be overwhelmingly positive (at least, from people who can actually/want to learn to master something). People who say they like V's driving are just trying to make the best of a sh*tty situation and have an optimistic outlook on it.

Or it's because they actually played the game and they liked it...

Edited September 16, 2013 by KillaDanny

[IDredMan]

 

 

Bish0p, that's because its using the Cryengine (well one of them at least.)

Yeah, this is the first time I've seen it. The damage looks fantastic too.

 

 

For whatever reason developers seem adamant that you cannot have realistic driving/damage in a game because it isn't 'fun' or gets 'annoying'. I think if they implemented it the reaction would be overwhelmingly positive (at least, from people who can actually/want to learn to master something). People who say they like V's driving are just trying to make the best of a sh*tty situation and have an optimistic outlook on it.

 

 

Or they just like the game, because ..You know, they're playing it.

[GTAaLEX117]

People who say they like V's driving are just trying to make the best of a sh*tty situation and have an optimistic outlook on it.

 

Or...they simply like it? God forbid people like something that you don't...

[Skeloton]

Moonlight, Your opinion isn't fact. Just pointing that out, for you is a "sh*tty situation" for others is "okay" or "amazing".

[KemistiOMG]

the driving looks fine, why do people expect that the driving should be like in Gran Turismo?

[RandomNoun]

In truth the bad driving is all just part of the decoy games Rockstar sent out early to ... erm ... something.

 

[mariana_dm1989]

bump

[Echolex]

bump

why

[aaronimpact]

I personally think driving isn't the problem, I actually like the driving. It's the fact all vehicles have bodies like tanks.

[BettyBlueGT]

Honestly I think we all should stfu over the driving and yell at them over giving us half a game... And lying about features and not telling us about the ones they took out till we paid for the game and found out.

[IDredMan]

Honestly I think we all should stfu over the driving and yell at them over giving us half a game... And lying about features and not telling us about the ones they took out till we paid for the game and found out.

 

What?

[mikeinthahouse]

I love the driving, It feels to responsive and like i'm actually in control of the vehicle. Heck, I finally feel like racing my car down city streets and swerving between traffic. Another thing- I don't crash every minute ether.

Edited September 22, 2013 by mikeinthahouse

[BettyBlueGT]

 

Honestly I think we all should stfu over the driving and yell at them over giving us half a game... And lying about features and not telling us about the ones they took out till we paid for the game and found out.

 

What?

 

Look I get it.. You love the game and any negative talk of it is just the worst news ever but if you truly don't get what a lot of us have been talking about... I'm not bothering filling you in.

[IDredMan]

 

 

Honestly I think we all should stfu over the driving and yell at them over giving us half a game... And lying about features and not telling us about the ones they took out till we paid for the game and found out.

 

What?

 

Look I get it.. You love the game and any negative talk of it is just the worst news ever but if you truly don't get what a lot of us have been talking about... I'm not bothering filling you in.

 

 

No, seriously.

What did they lie about?

The only thing I can think of is ATM robberies and safehouses... How does that make it half a game?

[BettyBlueGT]

Half a game because they took away so many of the small features from GTA 4 like arcade machines, pool, bowling, CANNOT BUY FOOD EXCEPT IN A CONVENIENCE STORE OR VENDING MACHINE! Cannot buy apartments or safe houses. They kinda lied... And a lot of the cooler features will be saved for GTA Online. So yeah we bought half a game.

[TJGM]

Half a game because they took away so many of the small features from GTA 4 like arcade machines, pool, bowling, CANNOT BUY FOOD EXCEPT IN A CONVENIENCE STORE OR VENDING MACHINE! Cannot buy apartments or safe houses. They kinda lied... And a lot of the cooler features will be saved for GTA Online. So yeah we bought half a game.

And you have half a brain. About 90% of the players on IV didn't play the arcade machines, pool and most hated bowling. You couldn't buy apartments in IV yet you can buy businesses in V and you guys are still complaining.

[mariana_dm1989]

It's pretty clear that r* did not intend to make arcade controls. It's just that the turning is more fast, responsive.

[IDredMan]

Half a game because they took away so many of the small features from GTA 4 like arcade machines, pool, bowling, CANNOT BUY FOOD EXCEPT IN A CONVENIENCE STORE OR VENDING MACHINE! Cannot buy apartments or safe houses. They kinda lied... And a lot of the cooler features will be saved for GTA Online. So yeah we bought half a game.

 

1. They never said arcade machines and the GTA 4 activities were returning, now you're just feeding them words and making them puke them out.

2. "Cooler features will be saved for GTA Online" I can only think of organizing your own heist, which is pretty much compensation for it not having an intense storyline, and honestly ...You can't make a heist with 1-2 people, it's called a robbery, which we can already do in singleplayer.

3. Those reasons make it half a game? I think someone needs to introduce you to ...Any single f*cking game that isn't GTAV that was released in 2009-2013.