Burchmore500 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 The plane moving really changes nothing to be honest. There is no blurring. Look at the rails of the bridge. The plane is A LOT closer to it, yet its rails are way harder to see - because the textures are cut in half for consoles, and the, later to be called "high" settings, are used for the promo shots - though it is harder to see, it is still crisp and not blurred from motion. And motion blur doesn't noticeably drop the texture resolution/texel density of every single object in the scene in half lol, "console optimization measures" do that The plane is much closer to the train itself, yet in the "pc version/high settings" promotional shot, you clearly can count the detailed polygons of the train sides and see much more detail on it, even though the plane is right up on it. These are just the beginning. More screenshots will emerge, more comparisons will be made between the "high settings/pc version" gta v promo screenshots and actual 720p gameplay. More examples. Many more. The people not really looking at reality as usual will be on the wrong side of history, but it is inevitable: More gameplay videos and screenshots will be able to be compared to the suped up DX11 screenshots we've seen so far The foliage density is adjusted. Foliage means "trees". You are calling it the "PC Version" but i hope you realise it is far more likely that there is going to be a next-gen version than a PC version, though I believe both will be coming. But nevertheless a next-gen version and no PC version is far more likely than a PC version and no next-gen version. Rockstar will want to make the most they can out of GTA V. GTA IV made 10 million sales between March 2010 and September 2012 even though it came out in 2008 and there is no reason to believe GTA V will be any different. Considering the next-gen consoles launch at the end of the year most people will have moved on from current-gen by 2015 and I imagine Rockstar would like to make the same sort of sales a few years after GTA V's release, and they won't do that with current-gen and PC versions only, not to mention the amount of people that would re-buy GTA V for next-gen having already owned it on current-gen considering they are not backwards compatible. These high detail screenshots are far more confirmation of a next-gen version than a pc version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusRIP Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) The only people bitching in here are the jealous PC gamers, taking their frustrations out and trying to make themselves feel better about how much they'll be missing out on come September 17. Also, nobody knows for sure how much time had passed between screenshots and gameplay video. They could have been recording clips of gameplay progressively over the past 3-4 months and the screenshots are at a later stage. Who knows really... we won't know 100% until release day but obviously, we should brace ourselves for a slightly performance enhanced version of the game. I'd much rather smooth gameplay than a few extra trees and stuttering all the way through. Everyone just needs to shut up and enjoy the game. It looks brilliant, even with less trees and "worse" textures... it's amazing. Edited July 14, 2013 by LotusRIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsix Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) It's not taken from the same angle. Take a closer look. The plane is going the opposite way from where the picture was taken. Look which way the train is going in both pictures. Maybe that side of the mountain doesn't have as many trees. The only thing different from the picture is more contrast and bloom. If I'm wrong then the reason the trees aren't there is probably because of the models not loading yet. It'll probably be the same as gta iv, if you get a bit closer you'll see the objects. I also just noticed something odd. Why is the red trailer part of the train so far away from it in the gameplay? o.o Edited July 14, 2013 by matsix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burchmore500 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) It's not taken from the same angle. Take a closer look. The plane is going the opposite way from where the picture was taken. Look which waythe train is going in both pictures. Look at this GIF http://makeagif.com/i/10R3Ii#.UeIuLY1ANBl The plane screenshot is taken from the gameplay video just a second later after it flies over the bridge. You cannot be serious in saying it is not the same place. The mountain's silhouette, the bridge in the distance, the stream, they all match. Do you really think that if it hadn't loaded yet then they would have used it in the trailer? It's not just the trees anyway. The amount of geometry and texture detail is far better in the screenshot than the gameplay video. Edited July 14, 2013 by Burchmore500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsix Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 It's not taken from the same angle. Take a closer look. The plane is going the opposite way from where the picture was taken. Look which waythe train is going in both pictures. Look at this GIF http://makeagif.com/i/10R3Ii#.UeIuLY1ANBl The plane screenshot is taken from the gameplay video just a second later after it flies over the bridge. You cannot be serious in saying it is not the same place. The mountain's silhouette match the bridge in the distance the stream they all match. Do you really think that if it hadn't loaded yet then they would have used it in the trailer? It's not just the trees anyway. The amount of geometry and texture detail is far better in the screenshot than the gameplay video. Yeah I just realized it's from the same angle. I just find it really odd that only those trees have been taken out. Because in other parts of where it shows gameplay near the mountains you can see a lot of trees still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burchmore500 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 It's not taken from the same angle. Take a closer look. The plane is going the opposite way from where the picture was taken. Look which waythe train is going in both pictures. Look at this GIF http://makeagif.com/i/10R3Ii#.UeIuLY1ANBl The plane screenshot is taken from the gameplay video just a second later after it flies over the bridge. You cannot be serious in saying it is not the same place. The mountain's silhouette match the bridge in the distance the stream they all match. Do you really think that if it hadn't loaded yet then they would have used it in the trailer? It's not just the trees anyway. The amount of geometry and texture detail is far better in the screenshot than the gameplay video. Yeah I just realized it's from the same angle. I just find it really odd that only those trees have been taken out. Because in other parts of where it shows gameplay near the mountains you can see a lot of trees still. It's likely that this specific area wasn't running well on consoles so they had to take them out. How well the game runs depends on how much stuff the system can 'see' onscreen. If there is too much onscreen, yeah it will look nice but it will run like crap. On the parts where there ARE trees, it is likely that there is not as much else going on onscreen in comparison to this valley. Rockstar have to go through the laborious process of basically playing the game looking at it from many angles to make sure there is no place or angle in the game where a player could look and suddenly it would run like poo. This valley is likely one of those places. Although I do not believe this is why here we can see such a big difference. I mean seriously look at how much detail there is in the screenshot. I extremely doubt that Rockstar overestimated how much stuff the current consoles could show onscreen by this much. This is leads me to believe that there is going to be a next-gen version and maybe a PC version because, why would they create all that detail just for one promotional screenshot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliceFarm Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 It's not taken from the same angle. Take a closer look. The plane is going the opposite way from where the picture was taken. Look which waythe train is going in both pictures. Look at this GIF http://makeagif.com/i/10R3Ii#.UeIuLY1ANBl The plane screenshot is taken from the gameplay video just a second later after it flies over the bridge. You cannot be serious in saying it is not the same place. The mountain's silhouette, the bridge in the distance, the stream, they all match. Do you really think that if it hadn't loaded yet then they would have used it in the trailer? It's not just the trees anyway. The amount of geometry and texture detail is far better in the screenshot than the gameplay video. Even though it doesn't look as pretty, that makes it look like that area is more freely traversable. The spot to the left of the path on the right cliff face now looks like a spot that can be used as a ramp, instead of just a place for trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAaLEX117 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) It's not taken from the same angle. Take a closer look. The plane is going the opposite way from where the picture was taken. Look which waythe train is going in both pictures. Look at this GIF http://makeagif.com/i/10R3Ii#.UeIuLY1ANBl The plane screenshot is taken from the gameplay video just a second later after it flies over the bridge. You cannot be serious in saying it is not the same place. The mountain's silhouette, the bridge in the distance, the stream, they all match. Do you really think that if it hadn't loaded yet then they would have used it in the trailer? It's not just the trees anyway. The amount of geometry and texture detail is far better in the screenshot than the gameplay video. It's pretty funny, the shadows and contrast actually make the right mountain sight look a lot better. It's all in the lighting. Regarding the left side, I have to remind people that we haven't actually got a close look on it (the plane was flying much lower in the gameplay trailer). It's this side: Edited July 14, 2013 by GTAaLEX117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkmariolink Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Those of you saying the VIDEO gameplay looks blurry and unploished.. Let me give you a lesson.. ITS A F*UCKING VIDEO. A youtube video to be more exact. Play the game in person on your (hopefully) HD tv's, then come back to the fourm. If you still bitch, then go play on your master race PC, elitist pricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtom Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 Those of you saying the VIDEO gameplay looks blurry and unploished.. Let me give you a lesson.. ITS A F*UCKING VIDEO. A youtube video to be more exact. Play the game in person on your (hopefully) HD tv's, then come back to the fourm. If you still bitch, then go play on your master race PC, elitist pricks. I never knew youtube cuts trees from games and downgrade its textures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highnrich Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 even some smartphone games are prettier then this bluury mess, ps360 is 8 year old tech tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trund Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 even some smartphone games are prettier then this bluury mess, ps360 is 8 year old tech tho Yeah? Go play a smartphone game on a TV, and then say that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highnrich Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 even some smartphone games are prettier then this bluury mess, ps360 is 8 year old tech tho Yeah? Go play a smartphone game on a TV, and then say that again. ugh 640p / 720p on a 50 inch tv is just boooom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorPhillipsEnterprise Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 even some smartphone games are prettier then this bluury mess, ps360 is 8 year old tech tho Typical 12 year old handicapped kids like you don't even know anything about Lighting and texture pop ins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwinterj Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Take a look at Watch Dogs. The promotional screens don't look like the game does in game. GTA V is no different and R* are not the first devs to do this. As for the "missing" trees and whatever it's obvious that the screen were taken from a later/earlier build then the gameplay trailer thus things change with each build. Maybe the one with more trees is closer to the final build. Who knows? Some of the gameplay trailer was taken from the demo the press was shown a while back so it's safe to say that's a old build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquireAustralia Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Wow...just...wow. no threes!!! Yep. This right here hurts me, big time. Very disappointed that they had to strip a lot of the forests. Look how barren things look in the gameplay trailer Where's our forests R*???? It's BETA. BETA means NOT FINISHED. So don't judge too quickly. This must be the demo that was shown to the press back Nov 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayd80 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 It's BETA. BETA means NOT FINISHED. So don't judge too quickly. This must be the demo that was shown to the press back Nov 2012. If they are showing video gameplay it's because they want people to see the game and how good it is, they're not that stupid to record an 8 months old build who has " ugly " textures / missing objects when they almost have the final build .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwinterj Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 If they are showing video gameplay it's because they want people to see the game and how good it is, they're not that stupid to record an 8 months old build who has " ugly " textures / missing objects when they almost have the final build .. As it's been said before the press was shown a demo months back and this demo has the very same stuff we see in some of the gameplay trailer. I don't think it's the recent build or at least not the build we will be playing come launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrSQUADKINGS Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 It's not taken from the same angle. Take a closer look. The plane is going the opposite way from where the picture was taken. Look which way the train is going in both pictures. Maybe that side of the mountain doesn't have as many trees. The only thing different from the picture is more contrast and bloom. If I'm wrong then the reason the trees aren't there is probably because of the models not loading yet. It'll probably be the same as gta iv, if you get a bit closer you'll see the objects. I also just noticed something odd. Why is the red trailer part of the train so far away from it in the gameplay? o.o If people still thinks this is not the same place then theyr retarded. ITS THE SAME PLACE. the plane is just flying lower than the cameraview on the top picture is taken from. everything fits traight in. only diffrense is the texture & trees!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugotsmoked Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I don't care that is has less trees, I am not a pc fanboy. Plus I wanna see those animals coming at me so I can get off a clean shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kai824 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 May well be that R* just decided that this area looked better without the the trees (shows the mountains better IMO), hence the fact that in other areas there still are trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandrixco Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Only difference is that the textures are not loaded...All you doubters and haters out there will have to wait until you actually play the game and see what your missing out on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAaLEX117 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Only difference is that the textures are not loaded...All you doubters and haters out there will have to wait until you actually play the game and see what your missing out on. Indeed. The LOD distance seems to have shrunken (which was expected), but the textures are pretty much the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalgaryJay Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 some people think it's better to play on a chair with mouse / keyboard Ugh, no way. I could not imagine a much worse, more horrible thought than this when it comes to gaming. I would never wanna play games with a mouse and keyboard, that would totally ruin my gaming experience. You PC gamers can keep that sh*t. @ CalgaryJay I'm talking about the same ones as you are. Oh haha my bad dude, I misread. What was I smokin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tuna Taco Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 The xbox 360 pic you chose is just ridiculous, it doesn't look like that, atleast let the map load up properly before making it like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnderWeb Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Can somebody sum up ? I just can't read all the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sleepy Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Can somebody sum up ? I just can't read all the thread. People complaining back and forth about R* removing trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevors685 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Looks good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnderWeb Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Can somebody sum up ? I just can't read all the thread. People complaining back and forth about R* removing trees. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gta5freemode4eva Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Those xbox shots looked like the computer was still rendering them... once its fully loaded it looked like the PC shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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