mubd Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 As we've seen, the Australian Classification Board will refuse classification on games which show proscribed drugs as providing a benefit. This means that the game will likely be censored. What does everyone think about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMG Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=524454 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I don't care if it's censored aslong as it doesn't get banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Shanahan Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Damn, the classification board over there are a load of pussbags, they introduced an R18 rating and still refuse to give it to some games. Yeah, it will be censored, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hate Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 San Andreas had a strong anti-drug vibe. (CJ refused to smoke) It won't be banned if V takes the same approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallo92 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 refuse classification on games which show proscribed drugs as providing a benefit. Marijuana is not a proscribed drug within Australia so it shouldn't be a problem right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMG Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Smallo' date='Wednesday, Jul 10 2013, 02:15'] refuse classification on games which show proscribed drugs as providing a benefit. Marijuana is not a proscribed drug within Australia so it shouldn't be a problem right? It is proscribed, not prescribed, in Australia. I'm hoping that it fit's into "Context" as this being in context of a parody of Southern California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucie_suckyou Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I saw this in the video and felt a bit sad that it would be censored. Trevor also cooks crystal meth. Will that, and any mini games associated with that also be censored? hmmm....I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Justice Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 As long as it doesn't give you gameplay benefits like stat boosts, the board won't have an issue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusRIP Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 We could take drugs in Saints Row 2 but... which gave super powered punches.... and that wasn't censored?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I don't care if it's censored aslong as it doesn't get banned. Surely you can buy a copy online anyway? ＲＵＢＢΣＲ░Ｊ♢ＨＮＮＹ （スオッ） Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucie_suckyou Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 We could take drugs in Saints Row 2 but... which gave super powered punches.... and that wasn't censored?? Were they real drugs like cocaine etc? or made up drugs with made up names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mubd Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 The previous MA15+ rating seems more relaxed than the current R18+ rating. Insane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 You can bet that's not the only drugs that the player will take, steal, deal etc. I would definitely order it from abroad if I lived there. I've sent eBay items to Australia before & there are plenty of reputable UK sellers on there. I can't see Customs taking an interest in every DVD sized case coming into the country, seeing as there must be hundreds of thousands every day. Your government acts as more of a nanny state than ours & that's saying something. It totally goes against your history & what your country was founded upon 'The Oppression of the majority by the British Crown & unfair taxes & restrictions on its people'. If they aren't going to treat you as sensible adults who can distinguish between fantasy & reality, then just circumvent them & try to remove them from power come voting time (I know the Aussie Classification Board probably isn't directly run by the government but I've seen some politicians weighing in on the subject). Sort of Off-topic: I bought the Predator Trilogy DVD box set the other day (for a nice low £5) & noticed that the last film 'Predators' was rated 15 & the other two 18. If Predators had been classified back when the other two were released, it would've got an 18 as well. So ratings in this country has actually relaxed over time, it's about the only thing that has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Smallo,Wednesday, Jul 10 2013, 02:15] refuse classification on games which show proscribed drugs as providing a benefit. Marijuana is not a proscribed drug within Australia so it shouldn't be a problem right? The guidelines state: "Computer games will be Refused Classification if they contain: (i) illicit or proscribed drug use related to incentives or rewards; (ii) interactive drug use which is detailed and realistic." Red Dead Redemption had rewards/effects for chewing tobacco (restores dead eye). Max Payne 3 has painkillers (which can be classified as a prescribed drug and restores health). Alcohol features extensively in both games; particularly Max Payne 3. This is purely on the basis of context. Whether the characters can actually smoke to gain an incentive or reward (such as being able to slow down the perception of time; similar to a dead-eye slowmotion effect) or not. If not, there will be no problems. If yes, I don't know how the classification board will react to marijuana if it can be used for incentive or reward, and I predict that it will probably overstep the mark knowing how ridiculously sensitive the Australian Classification Board is; and the fact that marijuana is illegal in Australia. With that being said, California has legalized marijuana and GTA V's setting is based on California (or part of it), so it can be arguably justified by context on the basis that it is legal in the region of which the game is based on, like tobacco and alcohol - which hasn't caused a game to be refused classification because of their legality; so based on that - the use of marijuana might just make it through without the game needing to be refused classification and censored. Not holding my breath though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masher8559 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 What's the point of the adult rating if they are still going to ban or censor your games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mubd Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 I'm guessing the ACB had to severely cut down on the proposed freedom the R rating would give game developers in order to get all state Attorney-Generals, especially the ones from more conservative states (Queensland, Western Australia), to agree to the R18+ rating. The resulting mess is this crazy ratings system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryder15 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Saints row 2 had joints you brought or found and all you had to do was simply select the joint and lite it up, and everything went a wavy and blurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chukkles Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 San Andreas had a strong anti-drug vibe. (CJ refused to smoke) It won't be banned if V takes the same approach. Franklin walks out of marijuana shop, takes a sniff, "damn", "I ain't smoking this sh*t". Yah really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias_Rieper Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Saints row 2 had joints you brought or found and all you had to do was simply select the joint and lite it up, and everything went a wavy and blurry The original Saints Row (best one...) also had joints, blunts, bongs, spliffs, 40s, and everything else under the sun. I don't believe that was banned either, was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chukkles Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Saints row 2 had joints you brought or found and all you had to do was simply select the joint and lite it up, and everything went a wavy and blurry The original Saints Row (best one...) also had joints, blunts, bongs, spliffs, 40s, and everything else under the sun. I don't believe that was banned either, was it? 40's? 40 ounce bottle of beer has nothing to do with smoking bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben73 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I absolutely f*cking hate the ACB. If they censor this game Ill be pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assmillk Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 San Andreas had a strong anti-drug vibe. (CJ refused to smoke) It won't be banned if V takes the same approach. Franklin walks out of marijuana shop, takes a sniff, "damn", "I ain't smoking this sh*t". Yah really. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay33 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 So they sliced and diced people to hot dogs before and the drugs are the thing that matters on now? omg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I don't care if it's censored aslong as it doesn't get banned. Surely you can buy a copy online anyway? Yes, but to get a collectors edition you'd have to buy here. So that means buying the game twice if you want the collectors edition and an uncensored copy which is lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedweather Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Wow thats lame!!! Thats jus silly....dont you guys have porn in commercials there? lol crap...I'm stoned! God help me!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Mantis Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) I don't think it will be banned, probably not even censored. I believe, Aussie gamers correct me, the law says, "If an illegal drug is depicted or used to give the player benefits," but in this sense Franklin is buying a completely legal pharmaceutical. It can't be messed with since Medical Marijuana is legal In California and Franklin must have had a card to buy it. So it's fine, right? EDIT: The official law says, ""...elements of illicit or proscribed drug use related to incentives or rewards...", so basically what I said. Edited July 11, 2013 by Monty Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Wow I'm glad that the censorship here is well, there is none the worse they can do here is slap the AO rating which the only game of note I rember geting that for any ammount of time was San Andreas with the Hot Coffee and that was because of Air heads like Jack Thompson freaking out about a removed feature the moders unearthed on one system, still being buried in the code. Grasping at straws and such. Say what you will about America (there's plenty of stupid sh*t here as well no doubt) but at least there's minimalistic oversight to the entertainment industry, seeing as due to the constitution they can't do to much to stop it. Anyhow Franklin did buy it legaly. I mean down in Cali and even elsewhere, geting a card for it isn't exacly hard with some Doctors, but still legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Intrusion Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I don't care if it's censored aslong as it doesn't get banned. what? are you serious? I as a german certainly feel for the australians we have to deal with the censors aswell though not nearly to the same extent the Aussie has to deal with them. And only when it comes to violence (gore ect). Sex and drugs are not an issue here in germany. But I feel your pain. I ALWAYS import if there is any even the slightest censorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_rocz Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 i don't understand.. They censor just the game brought to Australia, or all the copies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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