Franklin is the Son of Cesar Vialpando and Kendl

[Leafy Hollow]

just like buying property wasn't in the game right?

[Distrom]

 

just like buying property wasn't in the game right?

Pull it

If you actually think Franklin is the son of Cesar and Kendl, then you're gonna get a surprise

[Lil ski]

[simonp92]

not even going to read your post for one simple reason: all characters from the SD universe do not, and have never existed in the HD universe. meaning all characters from GTA 3, Vice City, San Andreas, LCS, and VCS never existed in IV, V, or any other future title.

just like buying property wasn't in the game right?

Well if common sense doesn't work, why not play GTA IV? There are no relatives of any character from III or VC or SA in IV. Proof enough?

[Distrom]

That's (probably) Lamar's momma.

f*ck it, she's Kendl.

[kibbutz1]

 

Rockstar says the two universes are different...people still do this

 

Rockstar is adamant on the fact that the two universes are different...still people do this sh*t

 

Again...and again...and again

 

(insert quote about insanity)

 

Just because the two universes are physically separate, doesn't mean to say that R* wouldn't throw in a possibility like this as an easter egg. I actually think that while we know it's not true, it's still an entertaining theory. Maybe that R* used a similar idea to OP's in designing Franklin even if it's not literally true.

[Backfire6]

More like seems impossible.

[Distrom]

Rockstar says the two universes are different...people still do this

 

Rockstar is adamant on the fact that the two universes are different...still people do this sh*t

 

Again...and again...and again

 

(insert quote about insanity)

 

Just because the two universes are physically separate, doesn't mean to say that R* wouldn't throw in a possibility like this as an easter egg. I actually think that while we know it's not true, it's still an entertaining theory. Maybe that R* used a similar idea to OP's in designing Franklin even if it's not literally true.

Easter eggs aren't a possibility, they are a fact, but we are not saying there won't be easter eggs, we are saying there won't be any characters from 3D era in GTA V.

[kibbutz1]

Rockstar says the two universes are different...people still do this

 

Rockstar is adamant on the fact that the two universes are different...still people do this sh*t

 

Again...and again...and again

 

(insert quote about insanity)

 

Just because the two universes are physically separate, doesn't mean to say that R* wouldn't throw in a possibility like this as an easter egg. I actually think that while we know it's not true, it's still an entertaining theory. Maybe that R* used a similar idea to OP's in designing Franklin even if it's not literally true.

Easter eggs aren't a possibility, they are a fact, but we are not saying there won't be easter eggs, we are saying there won't be any characters from 3D era in GTA V.

And all I'm saying is that Franklin's similarity to what you'd expect the child of Kendl and Cesar to be like could be an easter egg. Although when I say it like that it seems unlikely they'd make the design of a whole protag purely as an easter egg.

[Fisciletti]

Man... I would hope III era story continued in V/VI/VII. The old characters such as CJ, Cesar, etc don't have to appear. They just have to be mentioned. It would be f*cking perfect.

 

ROCKSTAR, READ THIS.

[meson1]

 

Just like buying property wasn't in the game right?

Nothing personal against you, Garganda, this is to everybody.

 

This is a cheap response. I'm seeing this particular response far too often of late.

 

Person1: blah blah blah something I want to be true blah blah blah

Person2: Rockstar say blah blah blah absolute proof it can't possibly be true blah blah blah

Person1: What? Like they said buying property wasn't going to be in the game?

 

Seriously, I wish people would give this particular piece of lame-ass reasoning a rest. No offence intended. Please, just find a genuine argument of your own instead of using the "buying property therefore Rockstar lie about everything" line. You've got brains. You're reasonably intelligent. Please think of something better to say.

 

Peace, people.

[Distrom]

Guy above me: Thank you.

[Brr_]

I thought we were over this...

[Fail_At_GTA]

You know, I would have thought GTA fans would be smart but damn, you guys are seriously retarded. I'll repeat what literally everyone has said already. The 3D and HD eras are completely different universes. Characters such as Tommy, CJ, Claude, Kendl, Cesar, Sweet, are all non-existant in the HD era. However, they can be referenced like the graffiti in GTA 4 (which was simply saying that the 3D era is dead) and a billboard outside of Nikos Algonquin apartment with someone who looks suspiciously like CJ on it.

 

Kendl and Cesar being Franklins parents as an easter egg wouldn't work as well. Franklin technically wouldn't exist. Chances are, we wont even figure out who Franklins parents are, as its not important. However, I can see Michaels dad being a mission giver of some sort.

 

The only things that can cross universes are brands, Lazlow, musicians (including Love Fist, but we wont see their character models ingame), buildings, cars, and locations. Characters who have appeared in the flesh in previous GTAs (this doesn't apply to GTA 4 at this time) cannot appear again in a GTA game based upon a different era, hence no CJ, Claude, blah blah being in GTA 4.

 

Rockstar changing their minds about properties is completely different, so don't even bring it up, and it doesn't need any explanation.

 

Now that this is all cleared up, this thread can either die in the depths of pages or be locked by a mod.

[Freezer89]

God damnit.. how this topic is still open is beyond my comprehension. The first reply alone is /thread worthy.

[kibbutz1]

You know, I would have thought GTA fans would be smart but damn, you guys are seriously retarded. I'll repeat what literally everyone has said already. The 3D and HD eras are completely different universes. Characters such as Tommy, CJ, Claude, Kendl, Cesar, Sweet, are all non-existant in the HD era. However, they can be referenced like the graffiti in GTA 4 (which was simply saying that the 3D era is dead) and a billboard outside of Nikos Algonquin apartment with someone who looks suspiciously like CJ on it.

 

Kendl and Cesar being Franklins parents as an easter egg wouldn't work as well. Franklin technically wouldn't exist. Chances are, we wont even figure out who Franklins parents are, as its not important. However, I can see Michaels dad being a mission giver of some sort.

 

The only things that can cross universes are brands, Lazlow, musicians (including Love Fist, but we wont see their character models ingame), buildings, cars, and locations. Characters who have appeared in the flesh in previous GTAs (this doesn't apply to GTA 4 at this time) cannot appear again in a GTA game based upon a different era, hence no CJ, Claude, blah blah being in GTA 4.

 

Rockstar changing their minds about properties is completely different, so don't even bring it up, and it doesn't need any explanation.

 

Now that this is all cleared up, this thread can either die in the depths of pages or be locked by a mod.

What if his parents just had the same names as Kendl and Cesar. That'd f*ck up everything in your little rant quite badly wouldn't it? (By the way, I'm just playing Devil's advocate here and don't think it'll happen either.)

[Fail_At_GTA]

You know, I would have thought GTA fans would be smart but damn, you guys are seriously retarded.  I'll repeat what literally everyone has said already.  The 3D and HD eras are completely different universes.  Characters such as Tommy, CJ, Claude, Kendl, Cesar, Sweet, are all non-existant in the HD era.  However, they can be referenced like the graffiti in GTA 4 (which was simply saying that the 3D era is dead) and a billboard outside of Nikos Algonquin apartment with someone who looks suspiciously like CJ on it.

 

Kendl and Cesar being Franklins parents as an easter egg wouldn't work as well.  Franklin technically wouldn't exist.  Chances are, we wont even figure out who Franklins parents are, as its not important.  However, I can see Michaels dad being a mission giver of some sort.

 

The only things that can cross universes are brands, Lazlow, musicians (including Love Fist, but we wont see their character models ingame), buildings, cars, and locations.  Characters who have appeared in the flesh in previous GTAs (this doesn't apply to GTA 4 at this time) cannot appear again in a GTA game based upon a different era, hence no CJ, Claude, blah blah being in GTA 4.

 

Rockstar changing their minds about properties is completely different, so don't even bring it up, and it doesn't need any explanation.

 

Now that this is all cleared up, this thread can either die in the depths of pages or be locked by a mod.

What if his parents just had the same names as Kendl and Cesar. That'd f*ck up everything in your little rant quite badly wouldn't it? (By the way, I'm just playing Devil's advocate here and don't think it'll happen either.)

They wouldn't be the Kendl and Cesar the OP is talking about, making my post 100% relevant.

[killahmatic]

Edit: For some people who think that Kendl and Cesar cant be in Grand Theft Auto 5 -

they dont need to be in there, maybe they are dead.

 

...except, for the 100th time, R* said its two different universes. Kendl and Cesar never existed in V's world.

[kibbutz1]

You know, I would have thought GTA fans would be smart but damn, you guys are seriously retarded.  I'll repeat what literally everyone has said already.  The 3D and HD eras are completely different universes.  Characters such as Tommy, CJ, Claude, Kendl, Cesar, Sweet, are all non-existant in the HD era.  However, they can be referenced like the graffiti in GTA 4 (which was simply saying that the 3D era is dead) and a billboard outside of Nikos Algonquin apartment with someone who looks suspiciously like CJ on it.

 

Kendl and Cesar being Franklins parents as an easter egg wouldn't work as well.  Franklin technically wouldn't exist.  Chances are, we wont even figure out who Franklins parents are, as its not important.  However, I can see Michaels dad being a mission giver of some sort.

 

The only things that can cross universes are brands, Lazlow, musicians (including Love Fist, but we wont see their character models ingame), buildings, cars, and locations.  Characters who have appeared in the flesh in previous GTAs (this doesn't apply to GTA 4 at this time) cannot appear again in a GTA game based upon a different era, hence no CJ, Claude, blah blah being in GTA 4.

 

Rockstar changing their minds about properties is completely different, so don't even bring it up, and it doesn't need any explanation.

 

Now that this is all cleared up, this thread can either die in the depths of pages or be locked by a mod.

What if his parents just had the same names as Kendl and Cesar. That'd f*ck up everything in your little rant quite badly wouldn't it? (By the way, I'm just playing Devil's advocate here and don't think it'll happen either.)

They wouldn't be the Kendl and Cesar the OP is talking about, making my post 100% relevant.

But it would be an easter egg, so you were wrong there. Also, you say that Lazlow and Love Fist cross universes, but who's says that they are physically the same and not just new characters with the same names (and possibly same personalities).

[Distrom]

 

You know, I would have thought GTA fans would be smart but damn, you guys are seriously retarded.  I'll repeat what literally everyone has said already.  The 3D and HD eras are completely different universes.  Characters such as Tommy, CJ, Claude, Kendl, Cesar, Sweet, are all non-existant in the HD era.  However, they can be referenced like the graffiti in GTA 4 (which was simply saying that the 3D era is dead) and a billboard outside of Nikos Algonquin apartment with someone who looks suspiciously like CJ on it.

 

Kendl and Cesar being Franklins parents as an easter egg wouldn't work as well.  Franklin technically wouldn't exist.  Chances are, we wont even figure out who Franklins parents are, as its not important.  However, I can see Michaels dad being a mission giver of some sort.

 

The only things that can cross universes are brands, Lazlow, musicians (including Love Fist, but we wont see their character models ingame), buildings, cars, and locations.  Characters who have appeared in the flesh in previous GTAs (this doesn't apply to GTA 4 at this time) cannot appear again in a GTA game based upon a different era, hence no CJ, Claude, blah blah being in GTA 4.

 

Rockstar changing their minds about properties is completely different, so don't even bring it up, and it doesn't need any explanation.

 

Now that this is all cleared up, this thread can either die in the depths of pages or be locked by a mod.

What if his parents just had the same names as Kendl and Cesar. That'd f*ck up everything in your little rant quite badly wouldn't it? (By the way, I'm just playing Devil's advocate here and don't think it'll happen either.)

They wouldn't be the Kendl and Cesar the OP is talking about, making my post 100% relevant.

But it would be an easter egg, so you were wrong there. Also, you say that Lazlow and Love Fist cross universes, but who's says that they are physically the same and not just new characters with the same names (and possibly same personalities).

Edit: Srry, missunderstood.

they can name them like that and still being and easter egg, since it would be just the names, and no the characters.

But why would R* name them like that in the first place.

Edited June 24, 2013 by Distrom

[BattleExel]

As I've said: the OP hasn't say a word about that Cesar and/or Kendl will be in GTA:V, so what the f*** are you guys talking about with this ''different universe, HD universe (or how you want to call it)'' bullsh*t?

[Distrom]

 

As I've said: the OP hasn't say a word about that Cesar and/or Kendl will be in GTA:V, so what the f*** are you guys talking about with this ''different universe, HD universe (or how you want to call it)'' bullsh*t?

Are you sure he didn't?

 

 

Franklin has in the Poster the same clothing and haircut like Cesar,

but he looks like African-American. (thats maybe why the most people thing, that he is black or hispanic)

 

So when the Story of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas plays in 1992

and Cesar and Kendl had sex, then Franklin must be 21 or 22 years old.

Edited June 24, 2013 by Distrom

[kibbutz1]

You know, I would have thought GTA fans would be smart but damn, you guys are seriously retarded.  I'll repeat what literally everyone has said already.  The 3D and HD eras are completely different universes.  Characters such as Tommy, CJ, Claude, Kendl, Cesar, Sweet, are all non-existant in the HD era.  However, they can be referenced like the graffiti in GTA 4 (which was simply saying that the 3D era is dead) and a billboard outside of Nikos Algonquin apartment with someone who looks suspiciously like CJ on it.

 

Kendl and Cesar being Franklins parents as an easter egg wouldn't work as well.  Franklin technically wouldn't exist.  Chances are, we wont even figure out who Franklins parents are, as its not important.  However, I can see Michaels dad being a mission giver of some sort.

 

The only things that can cross universes are brands, Lazlow, musicians (including Love Fist, but we wont see their character models ingame), buildings, cars, and locations.  Characters who have appeared in the flesh in previous GTAs (this doesn't apply to GTA 4 at this time) cannot appear again in a GTA game based upon a different era, hence no CJ, Claude, blah blah being in GTA 4.

 

Rockstar changing their minds about properties is completely different, so don't even bring it up, and it doesn't need any explanation.

 

Now that this is all cleared up, this thread can either die in the depths of pages or be locked by a mod.

What if his parents just had the same names as Kendl and Cesar. That'd f*ck up everything in your little rant quite badly wouldn't it? (By the way, I'm just playing Devil's advocate here and don't think it'll happen either.)

They wouldn't be the Kendl and Cesar the OP is talking about, making my post 100% relevant.

But it would be an easter egg, so you were wrong there. Also, you say that Lazlow and Love Fist cross universes, but who's says that they are physically the same and not just new characters with the same names (and possibly same personalities).

Edit: Srry, missunderstood.

they can name them like that and still being and easter egg, since it would be just the names, and no the characters.

But why would R* name them like that in the first place.

I don't know, I'm fairly sure they would never do that. However, I'm just trying to challenge everyone who goes crazy every time someone even mentions a III era character. And that was just one way I could think of where R* could purposefully nod to III era characters, showing the same ideas as OP, whilst not breaking the golden rule of universe crossover.

[Distrom]

You know, I would have thought GTA fans would be smart but damn, you guys are seriously retarded.  I'll repeat what literally everyone has said already.  The 3D and HD eras are completely different universes.  Characters such as Tommy, CJ, Claude, Kendl, Cesar, Sweet, are all non-existant in the HD era.  However, they can be referenced like the graffiti in GTA 4 (which was simply saying that the 3D era is dead) and a billboard outside of Nikos Algonquin apartment with someone who looks suspiciously like CJ on it.

 

Kendl and Cesar being Franklins parents as an easter egg wouldn't work as well.  Franklin technically wouldn't exist.  Chances are, we wont even figure out who Franklins parents are, as its not important.  However, I can see Michaels dad being a mission giver of some sort.

 

The only things that can cross universes are brands, Lazlow, musicians (including Love Fist, but we wont see their character models ingame), buildings, cars, and locations.  Characters who have appeared in the flesh in previous GTAs (this doesn't apply to GTA 4 at this time) cannot appear again in a GTA game based upon a different era, hence no CJ, Claude, blah blah being in GTA 4.

 

Rockstar changing their minds about properties is completely different, so don't even bring it up, and it doesn't need any explanation.

 

Now that this is all cleared up, this thread can either die in the depths of pages or be locked by a mod.

What if his parents just had the same names as Kendl and Cesar. That'd f*ck up everything in your little rant quite badly wouldn't it? (By the way, I'm just playing Devil's advocate here and don't think it'll happen either.)

They wouldn't be the Kendl and Cesar the OP is talking about, making my post 100% relevant.

But it would be an easter egg, so you were wrong there. Also, you say that Lazlow and Love Fist cross universes, but who's says that they are physically the same and not just new characters with the same names (and possibly same personalities).

Edit: Srry, missunderstood.

they can name them like that and still being and easter egg, since it would be just the names, and no the characters.

But why would R* name them like that in the first place.

I don't know, I'm fairly sure they would never do that. However, I'm just trying to challenge everyone who goes crazy every time someone even mentions a III era character. And that was just one way I could think of where R* could purposefully nod to III era characters, showing the same ideas as OP, whilst not breaking the golden rule of universe crossover.

Listen, I've been here for 10 months and I ASSUME, because of your join date, that you haven't been here for very long.

We get really mad and crazy about this threads because, R* confirmed some years ago, that 3D era Characters don't belong to the HD era, and even after that, people always make threads about their theories, of those characters being in the game, this has been disscussed to death, and is really frustrating to see members making these threads, even when R* themselves confirmed this "era thing"

[PHOENIXZERO]

FFS, yes I'm quite sure Rockstar or more specifically Dan Houser first commented on this years before GTA IV was even released. People need to get the **** over the fact that they'll likely never revisit the GTA III universe. This isn't like Rockstar changing their mind over a couple features (if they actually changed their minds at all and just didn't want to confirm it at that time) it's goddamn rule they set as they moved on from the "3D era" into the "HD era". There's zero point in going back and reusing old characters that wouldn't just look like a lame gimmick especially in such a throw away matter that doesn't even work chronologically.

[Fail_At_GTA]

As I've said: the OP hasn't say a word about that Cesar and/or Kendl will be in GTA:V, so what the f*** are you guys talking about with this ''different universe, HD universe (or how you want to call it)'' bullsh*t?

So Franklins parents are Kendl and Cesar, but Kendl and Cesar don't exist. I guess you're saying Kendls vagina is a magical portal to the HD universe?

[kibbutz1]

You know, I would have thought GTA fans would be smart but damn, you guys are seriously retarded.  I'll repeat what literally everyone has said already.  The 3D and HD eras are completely different universes.  Characters such as Tommy, CJ, Claude, Kendl, Cesar, Sweet, are all non-existant in the HD era.  However, they can be referenced like the graffiti in GTA 4 (which was simply saying that the 3D era is dead) and a billboard outside of Nikos Algonquin apartment with someone who looks suspiciously like CJ on it.

 

Kendl and Cesar being Franklins parents as an easter egg wouldn't work as well.  Franklin technically wouldn't exist.  Chances are, we wont even figure out who Franklins parents are, as its not important.  However, I can see Michaels dad being a mission giver of some sort.

 

The only things that can cross universes are brands, Lazlow, musicians (including Love Fist, but we wont see their character models ingame), buildings, cars, and locations.  Characters who have appeared in the flesh in previous GTAs (this doesn't apply to GTA 4 at this time) cannot appear again in a GTA game based upon a different era, hence no CJ, Claude, blah blah being in GTA 4.

 

Rockstar changing their minds about properties is completely different, so don't even bring it up, and it doesn't need any explanation.

 

Now that this is all cleared up, this thread can either die in the depths of pages or be locked by a mod.

What if his parents just had the same names as Kendl and Cesar. That'd f*ck up everything in your little rant quite badly wouldn't it? (By the way, I'm just playing Devil's advocate here and don't think it'll happen either.)

They wouldn't be the Kendl and Cesar the OP is talking about, making my post 100% relevant.

But it would be an easter egg, so you were wrong there. Also, you say that Lazlow and Love Fist cross universes, but who's says that they are physically the same and not just new characters with the same names (and possibly same personalities).

Edit: Srry, missunderstood.

they can name them like that and still being and easter egg, since it would be just the names, and no the characters.

But why would R* name them like that in the first place.

I don't know, I'm fairly sure they would never do that. However, I'm just trying to challenge everyone who goes crazy every time someone even mentions a III era character. And that was just one way I could think of where R* could purposefully nod to III era characters, showing the same ideas as OP, whilst not breaking the golden rule of universe crossover.

Listen, I've been here for 10 months and I ASSUME, because of your join date, that you haven't been here for very long.

We get really mad and crazy about this threads because, R* confirmed some years ago, that 3D era Characters don't belong to the HD era, and even after that, people always make threads about their theories, of those characters being in the game, this has been disscussed to death, and is really frustrating to see members making these threads, even when R* themselves confirmed this "era thing"

I'm well aware of the situation, despite my join date, I have been watching these forums and following GTA V for at least as long as you have. I can understand getting frustrated at people saying characters will re appear, but that is NOT what I have been saying. Re read my posts about how it's possible (even though I'm 99.99999% sure it won't happen) that R* could name Franklin's parents after Kendl and Cesar as an easter egg.

 

Anyway, I'm tired of playing devil's advocate, and I don't want to keep pushing my point to the point of pissing people off, so I shall leave it here. Have a nice evening (or morning/afternoon/night depending on where you are)

[jamieleng]

 

Edit: For some people who think that Kendl and Cesar cant be in Grand Theft Auto 5 -

they dont need to be in there, maybe they are dead.

 

...except, for the 100th time, R* said its two different universes. Kendl and Cesar never existed in V's world.

What, like Rockstar said there was no buying properties. Sorry, couldn't resist. I think the delay gave them an opportunity to re-introduce some things that were left out due to time constraints.

 

I knew there had to be a downside to Rockstar changing their minds about implementing that feature. That's giving moronic GTA fans a stupid reason to disbelieve everything Rockstar ever says about anything they don't agree with. So to people using that lame reasoning, why believe anything they ever say?

 

 

I guess you're saying Kendls vagina is a magical portal to the HD universe?

 

Gives a whole new meaning to the term 'Black Hole'.

Edited June 24, 2013 by jamieleng

[Distrom]

 

You know, I would have thought GTA fans would be smart but damn, you guys are seriously retarded.  I'll repeat what literally everyone has said already.  The 3D and HD eras are completely different universes.  Characters such as Tommy, CJ, Claude, Kendl, Cesar, Sweet, are all non-existant in the HD era.  However, they can be referenced like the graffiti in GTA 4 (which was simply saying that the 3D era is dead) and a billboard outside of Nikos Algonquin apartment with someone who looks suspiciously like CJ on it.

 

Kendl and Cesar being Franklins parents as an easter egg wouldn't work as well.  Franklin technically wouldn't exist.  Chances are, we wont even figure out who Franklins parents are, as its not important.  However, I can see Michaels dad being a mission giver of some sort.

 

The only things that can cross universes are brands, Lazlow, musicians (including Love Fist, but we wont see their character models ingame), buildings, cars, and locations.  Characters who have appeared in the flesh in previous GTAs (this doesn't apply to GTA 4 at this time) cannot appear again in a GTA game based upon a different era, hence no CJ, Claude, blah blah being in GTA 4.

 

Rockstar changing their minds about properties is completely different, so don't even bring it up, and it doesn't need any explanation.

 

Now that this is all cleared up, this thread can either die in the depths of pages or be locked by a mod.

What if his parents just had the same names as Kendl and Cesar. That'd f*ck up everything in your little rant quite badly wouldn't it? (By the way, I'm just playing Devil's advocate here and don't think it'll happen either.)

They wouldn't be the Kendl and Cesar the OP is talking about, making my post 100% relevant.

But it would be an easter egg, so you were wrong there. Also, you say that Lazlow and Love Fist cross universes, but who's says that they are physically the same and not just new characters with the same names (and possibly same personalities).

Edit: Srry, missunderstood.

they can name them like that and still being and easter egg, since it would be just the names, and no the characters.

But why would R* name them like that in the first place.

I don't know, I'm fairly sure they would never do that. However, I'm just trying to challenge everyone who goes crazy every time someone even mentions a III era character. And that was just one way I could think of where R* could purposefully nod to III era characters, showing the same ideas as OP, whilst not breaking the golden rule of universe crossover.

Listen, I've been here for 10 months and I ASSUME, because of your join date, that you haven't been here for very long.

We get really mad and crazy about this threads because, R* confirmed some years ago, that 3D era Characters don't belong to the HD era, and even after that, people always make threads about their theories, of those characters being in the game, this has been disscussed to death, and is really frustrating to see members making these threads, even when R* themselves confirmed this "era thing"

I'm well aware of the situation, despite my join date, I have been watching these forums and following GTA V for at least as long as you have. I can understand getting frustrated at people saying characters will re appear, but that is NOT what I have been saying. Re read my posts about how it's possible (even though I'm 99.99999% sure it won't happen) that R* could name Franklin's parents after Kendl and Cesar as an easter egg.

 

Anyway, I'm tired of playing devil's advocate, and I don't want to keep pushing my point to the point of pissing people off, so I shall leave it here. Have a nice evening (or morning/afternoon/night depending on where you are)

Yes, thats why I said, I ASSUME, I've been following the game since they announced it (im pretty sure you too) and I also said in one of my posts that they can give those names to Franklin's parents, but Im 100% sure they wont.

Here is the quote.

 

they can name them like that and still being and easter egg, since it would be just the names, and no the characters.

But why would R* name them like that in the first place.

[cp1dell]

Just f*cking accept it. PS2 characters are not coming back. Rockstar has brought it up two times.

 

"El Burro is referenced as he was also referenced in GTA 1, so it felt appropriate that he should cross “universes” – the “universes” are the worlds interpreted at different definitions, 2d, 3d and high definition, so we felt brands and radio / back ground characters would exist in both, but 3 dimensional characters would not.

 

This is the logic (as far as it could be considered logical) behind it – so no, we don’t believe any GTA3 characters could exist in the GTA4 universe."

 

On a Q&A on the Newswire.

 

And paraphrased in multiple articles when journalists got to see a preview of the game.

 

"The game will be based on the same world as Grand Theft Auto 4. This means players may encounter character cameos from that game and its expansions, but should not expect to see returning characters from last generation's Grand Theft Auto titles."

 

Just let it go. They're not coming back. Come up with a real argument instead of "Rockstar lies all the time." You're in denial.