Thoughts on the dialogue?

[ChrisAndy]

So I wanted to get a post out there about the dialogue, either what's heard from the trailer and what was posted about from the previews.

 

I might be alone in thinking this but wanted to get some thoughts in the downtime. GTA III/Vice City/ and San Andreas were all decidedly mimicking Hollywood movies of the era. They were very on-the-nose send ups/copies of Scarface, Goodfellas, Miami Vice, etc. The dialogue reflects that - it's often pretty hokey but decidedly very memorable. Playing through San Andreas again, I remembered how hilarious it was and ridiculous. "Grove Street. Home." "Follow the damn train CJ!" I think part of came from having actual professionals do the voice acting. I know R* commented to this effect saying it would be distracting, but I think it's more they just don't want to pay talent millions of dollars to voice act when they could pay a no-name $200,000 to voice act and do mocap. I'm not taking sides, but I think that's really the decisionmaking process.

 

My thing is that the dialogue now sounds flat as hell. I think this comes from the Housers writing the scripts, and it just sounds incredibly fake and *trying* to sound cool. But it doesn't. The first two Max Paynes had ridiculous dialogue but they connected with the very bizarre, cartoony tone. They knew it came off as emo and way too serious. With Max Payne 3, the game takes itself so seriously that it just sounds melodramatic. With GTA IV, it's simply not how a Serb with those life experiences would sound. He wouldn't use American idioms if he's never been to the country before, and simply put he wouldn't tell someone whose gay "That's your lifestyle choice". Or in Ballad of Gay Tony with the nonstop dialogue during the Drug Wars missions that cycles itself after the first 4 times. It stops sounding funny and just becomes annoying. In GTA V it sounds like they're trying really hard to write for these 3 characters but it doesn't sound that interesting.. like it'll come off as stiff. I can't help but think that part of that is just from taking the dialogue at face value. But like I said before, you can still quote GTA Vice City. When's the last time anyone quoted GTA IV?

 

Anyways - long post, I know, but just wanted to get some thoughts.

[minwager]

BEEG AMERICAN TEETEES

[TheDeaconBosco]

BEEG AMERICAN TEETEES

"You don't need me to tell you that it's all Fugazi... faker than a pair of Vinewood Tits!"

[GrandTheftEllboy]

I wouldn't really say it sounds flat or boring, if anything it seems memorable and funny. Who knows what it's like when you have whole conversations, as we've only seen/heard snippets from various points.

[Murad96]

THEES are the American peetees my cousin told me about.

[wwinterj]

Honestly the preview dialogue means nothing as you can't hear it for yourself. As for the trailers there is great dialogue in abundance. The Trevor trailer as a example. It doesn't seem stiff at all to me or like it's trying to hard.

[NikoBellic1993]

 

So I wanted to get a post out there about the dialogue, either what's heard from the trailer and what was posted about from the previews.

 

I might be alone in thinking this but wanted to get some thoughts in the downtime. GTA III/Vice City/ and San Andreas were all decidedly mimicking Hollywood movies of the era. They were very on-the-nose send ups/copies of Scarface, Goodfellas, Miami Vice, etc. The dialogue reflects that - it's often pretty hokey but decidedly very memorable. Playing through San Andreas again, I remembered how hilarious it was and ridiculous. "Grove Street. Home." "Follow the damn train CJ!" I think part of came from having actual professionals do the voice acting. I know R* commented to this effect saying it would be distracting, but I think it's more they just don't want to pay talent millions of dollars to voice act when they could pay a no-name $200,000 to voice act and do mocap. I'm not taking sides, but I think that's really the decisionmaking process.

 

My thing is that the dialogue now sounds flat as hell. I think this comes from the Housers writing the scripts, and it just sounds incredibly fake and *trying* to sound cool. But it doesn't. The first two Max Paynes had ridiculous dialogue but they connected with the very bizarre, cartoony tone. They knew it came off as emo and way too serious. With Max Payne 3, the game takes itself so seriously that it just sounds melodramatic. With GTA IV, it's simply not how a Serb with those life experiences would sound. He wouldn't use American idioms if he's never been to the country before, and simply put he wouldn't tell someone whose gay "That's your lifestyle choice". Or in Ballad of Gay Tony with the nonstop dialogue during the Drug Wars missions that cycles itself after the first 4 times. It stops sounding funny and just becomes annoying. In GTA V it sounds like they're trying really hard to write for these 3 characters but it doesn't sound that interesting.. like it'll come off as stiff. I can't help but think that part of that is just from taking the dialogue at face value. But like I said before, you can still quote GTA Vice City. When's the last time anyone quoted GTA IV?

 

Anyways - long post, I know, but just wanted to get some thoughts.

You sound like a pretentious idiot . GTA IV's dialogue was way better than the cliche trash of the 3D era .

Edited June 23, 2013 by NikoBellic1993

[wwinterj]

You sound like a pretentious idiot . GTA IV's dialogue was way better tnan the cliche trash of the 3D era .

I find this funny because you sound like a fanboy. It's ok to like both you know.

[mattfab]

I think gta v will have good voice acting. Out of the little bit of dialogue we've seen in the trailers, i can tell it will be just fine.

[NikoBellicGTAIV]

So I wanted to get a post out there about the dialogue, either what's heard from the trailer and what was posted about from the previews.

 

I might be alone in thinking this but wanted to get some thoughts in the downtime. GTA III/Vice City/ and San Andreas were all decidedly mimicking Hollywood movies of the era. They were very on-the-nose send ups/copies of Scarface, Goodfellas, Miami Vice, etc. The dialogue reflects that - it's often pretty hokey but decidedly very memorable. Playing through San Andreas again, I remembered how hilarious it was and ridiculous. "Grove Street. Home." "Follow the damn train CJ!" I think part of came from having actual professionals do the voice acting. I know R* commented to this effect saying it would be distracting, but I think it's more they just don't want to pay talent millions of dollars to voice act when they could pay a no-name $200,000 to voice act and do mocap. I'm not taking sides, but I think that's really the decisionmaking process.

 

My thing is that the dialogue now sounds flat as hell. I think this comes from the Housers writing the scripts, and it just sounds incredibly fake and *trying* to sound cool. But it doesn't. The first two Max Paynes had ridiculous dialogue but they connected with the very bizarre, cartoony tone. They knew it came off as emo and way too serious. With Max Payne 3, the game takes itself so seriously that it just sounds melodramatic. With GTA IV, it's simply not how a Serb with those life experiences would sound. He wouldn't use American idioms if he's never been to the country before, and simply put he wouldn't tell someone whose gay "That's your lifestyle choice". Or in Ballad of Gay Tony with the nonstop dialogue during the Drug Wars missions that cycles itself after the first 4 times. It stops sounding funny and just becomes annoying. In GTA V it sounds like they're trying really hard to write for these 3 characters but it doesn't sound that interesting.. like it'll come off as stiff. I can't help but think that part of that is just from taking the dialogue at face value. But like I said before, you can still quote GTA Vice City. When's the last time anyone quoted GTA IV?

 

Anyways - long post, I know, but just wanted to get some thoughts.

Nobody gives a sh*t, it's all supposed to be satire, it doesn't need to sound 100% real.

 

[Paper Mario]

Random ped: WHY'D YOU SHOT ME?!

 

Michael: I guess it was the weather?

[Dope_0110]

I only agree with IV. They screwed up a lot of things about Niko's character. Especially voice acting (when he speaks ''serbian'') and his attitude which would be much more harsh like that gay thing you used as an example.

 

But all other sounded great and judging by the trailers, the dialogue is just right in V. We'll see yet if it's anything special, but so far it's the same old Rockstar quality.