The inevitable Rockstar Pass

[bfett21]

In addition to the full set of dlc, is wager an exclusive MP car and exclusive guns. What do you think? And mind you this would be separate from the se or ce perks. Sorry the spelling errors. On my phone getting ready for work.

[DlZZEE]

I hope there won't be a DLC pass for GTAV.

[Bertanius]

Probably 6,000 DLC packs they will pump out. I thought Rockstar were nice and cared about what their fans got in a game...

[ugotsmoked]

Probably 6,000 DLC packs they will pump out. I thought Rockstar were nice and cared about what their fans got in a game...

They do care, they are offering us more stuff to play with.

[Bertanius]

Probably 6,000 DLC packs they will pump out. I thought Rockstar were nice and cared about what their fans got in a game...

They do care, they are offering us more stuff to play with.

But they're cutting it out and will eventually make us buy it back. I remember when a game came with 100% of it, not this 'buy back stuff you bought' thing.

[Quackerz Gamerz]

I don't understand why people are so mad about R* having DLC for V. Sure, it's annoying that we don't get everything in the original game, but R* are a company, and their primary goal is to make money, not matter how much they care about the fans.

 

Sorry if a came off a bit snobbish, I understand that not everyone can afford to pay for all DLC, but sadly it's the truth.

[From B With Love]

These are the times we're in. Sure it sucks a little bit but that's just how it is and for a game like this dlc IMO is actually a good thing it keeps the game alive longer.

[ugotsmoked]

Think of it this way...17 hrs for The Last of US and its $60! I bet it is a very good game but $60 for 17 hrs and then trade it in? Spank you very much...

 

"Hello Rockstar, I would like to pay $150 for 1000 hrs of fun. Do you take debit cards over the phone ?"

[Ultim8 Z0mb13]

Rockstar DLC is some of the best on the market, at least for their single-player content. A game like Uncharted shouldn't have DLC, as the multiplayer packs are expensive (overpriced, maybe?) and they do not produce any offline content. Rockstar proved DLC can be a true extension with EFLC and Undead Nightmare. There is no way in hell that these were "cut" from the game, they're just too big and more than worth their money.

 

And people forget the most important thing about DLC: it's OPTIONAL.

 

[Finn 7 five 11]

Season pass will have CE/SE perks, and whatever other DLC is released. The season pass won't have exclusive content, it simply enables you to purchase all the DLC that releases in one fee, if you bought all DLC separately and had the SE or CE you would have everything the season pass has, you'd probably spend a bit more though.

 

Multiplayer exclusive guns can f*ck off, I hope they don't include those, that would be really, really lame.

 

 

[Ultim8 Z0mb13]

Multiplayer exclusive guns can f*ck off, I hope they don't include those, that would be really, really lame.

Do you mean DLC exclusives or guns that are in MP only in general?

[Quackerz Gamerz]

Multiplayer exclusive guns can f*ck off, I hope they don't include those, that would be really, really lame.

This and exclusive vehicles. This would be the only thing that would put me off V's DLC.

[bfett21]

I'm 99% sure there will be a Rockstar pass based on LA Noire and MP3.

[Guest]

 

These are the times we're in.  Sure it sucks a little bit but that's just how it is and for a game like this dlc IMO is actually a good thing it keeps the game alive longer.

That's a silly thing to say.

 

So by your logic, paying £100 for 200 hours of content is better than paying £60 for 200 hours of content.

 

It's the thought that you have that makes developers cut content and re-sell as DLC. Instead of paying a set fee for everything, you'd rather pay the set fee for less gameplay, then pay more to finish the game.

 

 

And at "it's optional"

 

Again, a silly thing to say. That's like buying a car with no engine or wheels, because "they're optional."

[Celticfang]

 

These are the times we're in.  Sure it sucks a little bit but that's just how it is and for a game like this dlc IMO is actually a good thing it keeps the game alive longer.

That's a silly thing to say.

 

So by your logic, paying £100 for 200 hours of content is better than paying £60 for 200 hours of content.

 

It's the thought that you have that makes developers cut content and re-sell as DLC. Instead of paying a set fee for everything, you'd rather pay the set fee for less gameplay, then pay more to finish the game.

 

 

And at "it's optional"

 

Again, a silly thing to say. That's like buying a car with no engine or wheels, because "they're optional."

No, that's more like buying a car that doesn't have a decent sound system because it's 'optional', or leather seats or a turbo on the engine.

 

Think of it like this. The actual car bits, wheels, engine are there. That's the base V game.

 

Then you got the stuff like leather seats, better stereo. Those are optional, that's the cosmetic DLC packs. Just as you don't need leather seats to drive a car, or a better stereo, you don't 'need' the DLC packs, given they are smaller ones now.

 

EDIT: Going to point out here too that publishers can (and do) dictate what is DLC and what is in the main game. DLC has its own set of issues too.

[JOSEPH X]

In addition to the full set of dlc, is wager an exclusive MP car and exclusive guns. What do you think? And mind you this would be separate from the se or ce perks. Sorry the spelling errors. On my phone getting ready for work.

If they had extras in the Rockstar pass, they'd need another Rockstar pass to cover the Rockstar pass.

[K.Walters]

I would most likely buy it. Paying 60$ for the game itself and maybe another 60$ for every single downloadable content is not much since a new GTA is released every 5 or so years. It`s not CoD that comes out every year and in order to get everything you need to spend 120$. So I`m completely fine if the Season Pass thing is done for games that don`t come out every year. And I also think GTA is worth it.

Edited June 8, 2013 by Zoidbergs_LV

[Celticfang]

In addition to the full set of dlc, is wager an exclusive MP car and exclusive guns. What do you think? And mind you this would be separate from the se or ce perks.  Sorry the spelling errors. On my phone getting ready for work.

If they had extras in the Rockstar pass, they'd need another Rockstar pass to cover the Rockstar pass.

Rockstarpasslikelike then!

 

(For those of you who don't get it....Roguelikes have spawned a subgenre called roguelikelike)

[wwinterj]

 

I hope there won't be a DLC pass for GTAV.

Why? DLC is inevitable and this pass just lets people pay for the DLC in advance. Not sure your problem with that.

 

On topic the DLC includes all DLC save for pre order DLC. The only pre order DLC we have is the blimp. Not sure if the SE/CE DLC is included. I think it was with Max Payne 3 but I could be wrong.

 

IF the DLC is good enough I might buy the R* pass. If it's like Max Payne 3 with not much single player DLC then I don't think I'll bother.

Edited June 8, 2013 by wwinterj

[bfett21]

 

I hope there won't be a DLC pass for GTAV.

Why? DLC is inevitable and this pass just lets people pay for the DLC in advance. Not sure your problem with that.

 

On topic the DLC includes all DLC save for pre order DLC. The only pre order DLC we have is the blimp. Not sure if the SE/CE DLC is included. I think it was with Max Payne 3 but I could be wrong.

It wasn't I believe. The only R* pass I've bought so far was LA Noire's.

[Len Lfc]

I don't get it why are people against getting a discount?

[Grand Theft Savage]

I hope there won't be a DLC pass for GTAV.

Well, there's going to be DLC, so hoping for R* not to release a pass is just idiotic. Don't buy it.

[wwinterj]

It wasn't I believe. The only R* pass I've bought so far was LA Noire's.

I bought the L.A Noire pass and thought that included "The Broderick Detective Suit, The Sharpshooter Detective Suit, The Badge Pursuit Challenge and The Button Man Suit." but I guess my memory is a little fuzzy. With Max Payne 3 I was going on this:

http://www.rockstargames.com/maxpayne3/dlc

 

"The Rockstar Pass grants you access to download all Max Payne 3 DLC"

 

They had a "Special Edition Pack" and "pre-order pack". Been as GTA V only has one pre order bonus I believe the two will be merged.

 

[tmac9wr]

My only problem with the DLC is that most of it won't add anything to the game outside of weapons, clothes, etc. IV's DLC was the best ever (admittedly I've only bought CoD DLC outside of GTA, but still) because it added characters and expanded on a fantastic core story from different perspectives. It really was fantastic. As long as eventually we get DLC that adds new stories (perhaps taking advantage of LA's large Asian/Mexican populations), I'll be happy.

[Guest]

These are the times we're in.  Sure it sucks a little bit but that's just how it is and for a game like this dlc IMO is actually a good thing it keeps the game alive longer.

That's a silly thing to say.

 

So by your logic, paying £100 for 200 hours of content is better than paying £60 for 200 hours of content.

 

It's the thought that you have that makes developers cut content and re-sell as DLC. Instead of paying a set fee for everything, you'd rather pay the set fee for less gameplay, then pay more to finish the game.

 

 

And at "it's optional"

 

Again, a silly thing to say. That's like buying a car with no engine or wheels, because "they're optional."

No, that's more like buying a car that doesn't have a decent sound system because it's 'optional', or leather seats or a turbo on the engine.

 

Think of it like this. The actual car bits, wheels, engine are there. That's the base V game.

 

Then you got the stuff like leather seats, better stereo. Those are optional, that's the cosmetic DLC packs. Just as you don't need leather seats to drive a car, or a better stereo, you don't 'need' the DLC packs, given they are smaller ones now.

 

EDIT: Going to point out here too that publishers can (and do) dictate what is DLC and what is in the main game. DLC has its own set of issues too.

And then a car without leather seats or turbo isn't as good as a car that already comes with them. Why buy that car when I can buy the car with leather seats and turbo for a lower price?

[BlackNoise]

Probably 6,000 DLC packs they will pump out. I thought Rockstar were nice and cared about what their fans got in a game...

They do care, they are offering us more stuff to play with.

But they're cutting it out and will eventually make us buy it back. I remember when a game came with 100% of it, not this 'buy back stuff you bought' thing.

Yeah, but episodic content never existed back then either.

 

Games cost much more to develop nowadays. I don't mind paying for extra content. You can believe " they're cutting it out" and maybe you're right, but it doesn't change anything. If the game works, it works. You don't need the extra sh*t. If you honestly want it, you already understand why there's a market for it.

 

If you want the DLC, pay for it. If you don't, you still get to play the full game. You get to choose how you look at it. Why didn't you buy the Minigun for GTA IV? Cutting content isn't always about financial gain and sometimes developers sell extra content that was never supposed to be in the game in the first place.

 

 

[Bertanius]

Thing is, I've never, ever bought DLC, I never want to support the way games are going nowadays. GTA V is the only game in the past few years that I'm actually buying... I've pirated all the other games I play. I still plan to buy the game, but knowing every time I start up the game on PC, some home screen it has with a news section is going to spam me with news on DLC. Which makes me wonder, does pirating DLC for a paid game do anything? I for one, never go near multiplayer in anything, so I don't mind if it's 'broken' from doing so.

 

If Rockstar want to go down the EA path, fine, but I won't support it. Nothing will change my mind, I can't stand DLC. Sure it makes extra, but it gives a bad name to games, knowing they cut so much just to pull more from fans... If they could make amazingly successful games a decade ago that have more playing time than modern day games (and were more fun), then why should they need to pump out so much DLC to try and earn as much? Games have changed a lot, mostly for the worst... What you pay for is not what you get now. They think 'the more you pay, the better the game', which is not true at all. Most games are the same too, they just want to appeal to what the market wants, not what they know would be unique, since they know doing the same thing as every other company will sell good. It doesn't matter how cheap the piece of DLC is, it's still content they decided to either remove or plan to do later just so they can earn more, and for many, we don't want to spend everything we have to buy back the game we bought.

 

One other thing, GTA IV's episodes weren't DLC, they were expansion packs, there's a big difference. I don't mind expansions, so long as they're not pumped out and add quite a lot. Oh, and um, sorry for the long post, I mean, I just hope many of you here on the forum understand how bad DLC is, and what it does to games...

[bfett21]

Thing is, I've never, ever bought DLC, I never want to support the way games are going nowadays. GTA V is the only game in the past few years that I'm actually buying... I've pirated all the other games I play. I still plan to buy the game, but knowing every time I start up the game on PC, some home screen it has with a news section is going to spam me with news on DLC. Which makes me wonder, does pirating DLC for a paid game do anything? I for one, never go near multiplayer in anything, so I don't mind if it's 'broken' from doing so.

 

If Rockstar want to go down the EA path, fine, but I won't support it. Nothing will change my mind, I can't stand DLC. Sure it makes extra, but it gives a bad name to games, knowing they cut so much just to pull more from fans... If they could make amazingly successful games a decade ago that have more playing time than modern day games (and were more fun), then why should they need to pump out so much DLC to try and earn as much? Games have changed a lot, mostly for the worst... What you pay for is not what you get now. They think 'the more you pay, the better the game', which is not true at all. Most games are the same too, they just want to appeal to what the market wants, not what they know would be unique, since they know doing the same thing as every other company will sell good. It doesn't matter how cheap the piece of DLC is, it's still content they decided to either remove or plan to do later just so they can earn more, and for many, we don't want to spend everything we have to buy back the game we bought.

 

One other thing, GTA IV's episodes weren't DLC, they were expansion packs, there's a big difference. I don't mind expansions, so long as they're not pumped out and add quite a lot. Oh, and um, sorry for the long post, I mean, I just hope many of you here on the forum understand how bad DLC is, and what it does to games...

This isn't the EA Path, this is like GTA: London 1969 coming out when the OG GTA came out. They are expansion pack DLC. This is actually relevant. Hell, Blood Dragon DLC is in the same ilk. This is the kind of DLC I appreciate, 1 dollar transactions to unlock cheats is the EA model.

[-Morbid-]

 

But they're cutting it out and will eventually make us buy it back. I remember when a game came with 100% of it, not this 'buy back stuff you bought' thing.

 

When has Rockstar really tried to screw us on DLC? I see no reason to be making such a big deal out of this like some of you are.

 

Just because DLC comes out, it does not mean that it was cut from the original game. Some companies do that kind of stuff, like THQ and EA, but that doesn't mean that ALL DLC is just charging for cut content.

 

 

That's a silly thing to say.

 

So by your logic, paying £100 for 200 hours of content is better than paying £60 for 200 hours of content.

 

It's the thought that you have that makes developers cut content and re-sell as DLC. Instead of paying a set fee for everything, you'd rather pay the set fee for less gameplay, then pay more to finish the game.

 

 

And at "it's optional"

 

Again, a silly thing to say. That's like buying a car with no engine or wheels, because "they're optional."

 

That isn't great logic. Obviously paying less for something is better. Unless you are implying you are going to wait until there is a GOTY version or something with all the DLC for $60, I really don't see what the point of your argument is, as you don't have the option to pay less for the same thing that others are getting.

 

I get the feeling that you are trying to blabber about content being cut or that you aren't getting the "full game" because there is DLC but that is off, and as I said above, when has Rockstar really tried to screw us on DLC like many of the other game companies? Again, not all developers cut content for DLC, and as far as I can tell so far, that hasn't been the case with any of the Rockstar games so far.

 

That's a poor and inaccurate analogy with the car even if it was accurate it would be a pretty blatant exaggeration of the situation.

 

 

No, that's more like buying a car that doesn't have a decent sound system because it's 'optional', or leather seats or a turbo on the engine.

 

Think of it like this. The actual car bits, wheels, engine are there. That's the base V game.

 

Then you got the stuff like leather seats, better stereo. Those are optional, that's the cosmetic DLC packs. Just as you don't need leather seats to drive a car, or a better stereo, you don't 'need' the DLC packs, given they are smaller ones now.

 

EDIT: Going to point out here too that publishers can (and do) dictate what is DLC and what is in the main game. DLC has its own set of issues too.

 

That's not quite accurate really either, as those things would be options that are available when you originally purchase a car from the dealership, but I get what you are trying to say.

 

I think a better vehicular analogy would be comparing the DLC packs to aftermarket upgrades: things you can purchase separately at a later time to improve your car, but they are not mandatory.

 

 

And then a car without leather seats or turbo isn't as good as a car that already comes with them. Why buy that car when I can buy the car with leather seats and turbo for a lower price?

 

No sh*t, but again where exactly are you going to get a copy of the game with all of the DLC for the same price as the base game?

 

 

 

The unreasonable/paranoid attitude towards this subject shown by some in this thread is somewhat surprising to me as I would think people around here would have noticed the quality of the other DLC that Rockstar has done. We have no reason to expect them to try to "nickle and dime" us with DLC.

 

 

 

On the topic of DLC, I imagine we will get some extra heists, or they will do the episodic thing again.

 

Heist packs could have a new heist that includes just as much of the planning and preparation of the vanilla heists, as well as a new vehicle or two and a few weapons and costumes, and maybe a relevant property to purchase. Not sure what they could do for an episodic DLC as we would probably need to know more about the story before we could see know what to expect if the the DLC was going to be tied in like in GTA IV.

 

I don't mind the smaller packs that include a few weapons or vehicles or costumes as long as they don't flood us with them, although Rockstar has given me no reason to expect them to try to milk me. I figure I'm going to be sinking hundreds of hours into this game, so if a DLC includes a car that I really like and a gun that is cool, then I will easily be driving that car all over the place and shooting lots of people with the gun and therefore getting some hours of enjoyment out of them.

 

If it is episodic though, I hope they add in the new stuff across all versions of the game, unlike they did in GTA IV. If I have to take Niko's friends out all the damn time, I'd at least prefer to be taking them to air hockey instead of the boring bowling or broken pool, and it would be great to play with some of the new guns/motorcycles/cars in Niko's story, and use some of weapons from TBoGT in TLaD.

[ivarblaauw]

even if R* creates a DLC pass, it will be about 40% cheaper than to buy all the dlc. SO it's a insta buy for all of us.

 

It is not confirmed by R* that they will use a pass. So tread closed