No Body Out GTA's GTA

[TrevorSpeed914]

Saints Row 2 and 3 were superior to the recent GTAs. I had so much more fun with that series than the DLCs and IV.

lol

Wow, what a great argument.

 

Now go back to sucking your mom's tit, little kid.

[Eliston]

 

It's that magic.

Really? I had guessed that it was the weather.

Edited June 10, 2013 by Eliston

[Lock n' Stock]

Yeah, GTA seems to have a certain style about it that makes it a better sandbox. Saints Row 2 was the only SR game as good as any GTA game imo, Saints Row 3 took a step backwards.

[Homemade Dynamite]

Saints Row 2 and 3 were superior to the recent GTAs. I had so much more fun with that series than the DLCs and IV.

lol

Wow, what a great argument.

 

Now go back to sucking your mom's tit, little kid.

How ironic that you would say that considering it's YOU who likes SR3.

[TrevorSpeed914]

Saints Row 2 and 3 were superior to the recent GTAs. I had so much more fun with that series than the DLCs and IV.

lol

Wow, what a great argument.

 

Now go back to sucking your mom's tit, little kid.

How ironic that you would say that considering it's YOU who likes SR3.

Because it's a fantastic game, and has been universally acclaimed. If you don't like it, that's your problem. Don't be a dolt and "lol" without an argument like a thirteen year old. You're probably not even old enough to place the GTA series.

[Homemade Dynamite]

 

Saints Row 2 and 3 were superior to the recent GTAs. I had so much more fun with that series than the DLCs and IV.

lol

Wow, what a great argument.

 

Now go back to sucking your mom's tit, little kid.

How ironic that you would say that considering it's YOU who likes SR3.

Because it's a fantastic game, and has been universally acclaimed. If you don't like it, that's your problem. Don't be a dolt and "lol" without an argument like a thirteen year old. You're probably not even old enough to place the GTA series.

Dude, the majority of fans HATED that game, viewing it as a massive step backwards for the series.

 

Also, I am old enough, thank you very much.

[TrevorSpeed914]

A newb too.

[TakinThyBacon]

Agreed, no other game has come close to topping the GTA franchise, I do not see how could ever for me personally either. The appeal is the freedom to do anything and everything you want to do in a game, but for some reason other manufacturers seem to limit there so called open world games.

[Happyness]

 

Sorry to burst your bubbles guys, but I played a lot of games that are open-world and I didn't get bored of them within five minutes, I guess it's just how your mentality accepts those games. You hate everything else because it is not the BRAND GTA. That's it, that's my opinion.

Then your opinion is wrong.

 

I have tried so hard to like the non-GTA open world games. I even tell to myself that "this is better than GTA" to enjoy my playing experience.

 

But no, I always end up realizing that the game has that "emptiness" that GTA doesn't. There is..that, that magic.

Sorry but your opinion about my opinion being wrong is wrong.

 

My opinion is my opinion, it is not a fact.

 

There's no magic in GTA V, get it? It's just a game that contains features and it parodies America, that's it. It's more feature-packed than any other game, there's no "magic" to it.

[jpalmer2004]

I am replaying Sleeping Dogs. I played through it the first time too fast and was comparing it too GTA. Some of the smallest mundane things were irritating me. Like the boats in the water not bouncing with the waves. They were just static. The flare of Hong Kong was lacking. There was no color in the game and the draw distance is bad. They didn't capture the environment like rockstar does. Stop in RDR or GTAV or even L.A Noire. Just listen and watch the environment. That is what most games are lacking. That immersion that GTA series games has.

 

Sleeping Dogs does have a pretty badass fighting system though.

[ChrisMathers3501]

GTA has the magic, but...

 

Red Dead Redemption was a good western game.

The Saboteur was a good WW2 game.

The Godfather and LA Noire were good post-WW2 games. One was Mafia, the other was police.

And I'm sure True Crime, The Getaway, Driver, Midnight Club and Saint's Row are all good too in their own right.

 

But GTA is GTA, man. A spade is a spade, and you sure as sh*t don't hear a song about the ace of clubs or diamonds or hearts, now do you?

[Mário César Baldessar Moro]

In my opinion GTA IV isn't the less cloying open world game.

 

SA have much more lifetime than GTA IV, and even III and VC have.

 

I'm playing The Saboteur only from the last month, but i guess I can stay thousands hours

admiring the countryside and exploding nazis. But GTA IV is boring to me now. Just my opinion.

 

but GTA V will be a game to play forever. Based in all information we already have I guarantee it.

[WildBrick142]

 

GTA = comedy, action, violence, music, cutscenes, dialogue, story!

 

That's a bad example because every game has music, cutscene, dialouge and story.

That's not true. Minecraft has no cutscenes, dialogue and story. So it's not every game, it's most of games.

 

On Topic: It all depends on the taste. I get bored of most games because they go repetitive. I used to use Jetpack in SA as primary form of transport. Now I dont want to be even near the Jetpack because it's gone boring. Blowing up a fleet of Vortexes and Hotring Racers got a bit boring too. I wanted to complete GTA IV 100% but it's impossible for me now because I replayed the entire, never changing story over 20 times. I guess that same thing will happen in V if I will be flying the Atomic Blimp into buildings every 30 minutes.

 

GTA has the magic that still gets me to play it.

[Druffmaul]

I am replaying Sleeping Dogs. I played through it the first time too fast and was comparing it too GTA. Some of the smallest mundane things were irritating me. Like the boats in the water not bouncing with the waves. They were just static. The flare of Hong Kong was lacking. There was no color in the game and the draw distance is bad. They didn't capture the environment like rockstar does. Stop in RDR or GTAV or even L.A Noire. Just listen and watch the environment. That is what most games are lacking. That immersion that GTA series games has.

 

Sleeping Dogs does have a pretty badass fighting system though.

I was with you until you said "There was no color in the game". Sleeping Dogs was very colorful, I'd say it was more colorful than any previous GTA, including VC.

[Homemade Dynamite]

A newb too.

How is the time that I've been on these forums any way relevant to this discussion?

[AuSsIeThUnDeR36]

The things I like about gta games are the sometimes goofy missions like in the early gtas, IV had mainly serious missions but they fit 'the scene' and other things like when you find weapon and armor locations you just go back to them to collect instead of spending money and also how the missions just flow nicely like you finish one mission and then the next one is just a short drive away. No other game does it quite like a gta game

[tinman187]

I am replaying Sleeping Dogs. I played through it the first time too fast and was comparing it too GTA. Some of the smallest mundane things were irritating me. Like the boats in the water not bouncing with the waves. They were just static. The flare of Hong Kong was lacking. There was no color in the game and the draw distance is bad. They didn't capture the environment like rockstar does. Stop in RDR or GTAV or even L.A Noire. Just listen and watch the environment. That is what most games are lacking. That immersion that GTA series games has.

 

Sleeping Dogs does have a pretty badass fighting system though.

I was with you until you said "There was no color in the game". Sleeping Dogs was very colorful, I'd say it was more colorful than any previous GTA, including VC.

Sleeping Dogs was pretty damn colourful dude There was plenty of Hong Kong flare: The pedestrian A.I's were hilarious, Fleamarkets, Chicken Fights, Underground Fight Clubs, Triad Gang Warfare, Street Racing, Monk Temples, The Soundtrack etc... There was plenty. I thought it was one of the better open world games. My only gripes with it was the main story. Could've been a lot longer.

 

[Ferocious Banger]

Ah! WD is here. Saw the E3 demo, guys?

 

I'm happy because competition is only good for us.

[drsmelly]

I posted this topic knowing that I was mostly preaching to the converted and to all those apposed your on the wrong forum.

GTA will always be the game that other open world games aspire to be.

 

[Happyness]

I posted this topic knowing that I was mostly preaching to the converted and to all those apposed your on the wrong forum.

GTA will always be the game that other open world games aspire to be.

No, GTA will always be the open-world game that has parodies in it and stuff like these. But there are games that are better than GTA.

And just because there are open-world games it doesn't mean they aspire to be like GTA. f*cking GTA.

[dxbrandon]

Ah! WD is here. Saw the E3 demo, guys?

 

I'm happy because competition is only good for us.

Agree 100%

[GlitzyTomb]

You're wrong Happyness.

 

That is all.

[Phil Collin]

Iv played Scarface, Driv3r, True Crime Both, 50 Cent, Saints Row,Just Case And alot of more i dont remember and ofcoruse Rockstargames other Bully etc

[DODI3OG]

IDK why posts like this w/c don't speak about GTA V in general stays on when in fact, this should be posted in the gaming section.

This subforum must have topics about GTA V and not GTA in comparison to other games.

[GlitzyTomb]

Discussing a game about which much remains a mystery often involves comparisons to other games.

 

GTA in comparison to other games is perfectly suitable to this subforum.

[NikoBellic1993]

Sorry to burst your bubbles guys, but I played a lot of games that are open-world and I didn't get bored of them within five minutes, I guess it's just how your mentality accepts those games. You hate everything else because it is not the BRAND GTA. That's it, that's my opinion.

It's funny how your username is happyness yet you're a hating grumpy,constipated,ass.

[kesta195]

Yeah, whatever [Franklin's voice]

 

I'm still waiting for Red Dead Redemption to be topped. GTA V better bring even more of that magic.

RDR is my favourite game, but I agree with OP that GTA has that sense of quality that I can't even define that ensures it always comes out on top. These 'GTA clones' lack this, no matter how pretty they look or how many features they try to stuff in. It's like R* are Pixar and all these other animation films are trying but failing to match their standards.

[AndreyKva]

Guys, you should stop comparing every open world game to GTA. AC is NOTHING like GTA. Nor is RDR, really. Assassin's Creed is an open world parkour simulator. Red Dead Redemption is an open world wild west action-adventure, the only GTA element being the fact you can steal horses.

 

Anyway, here are my opinions on the games.

 

GTA3 was kind of boring and overrated. Nothing to do really and not very fun.

 

Vice City was kinda better, in some ways, but that only made it an average game.

 

Then San Andreas... that was where the money went. It was huge and the roleplaying elements drew me in and it was great. The three cities were all great and here is my list: Los Santos>Las Venturas>San Fierro. I loved SA.

 

And then GTAIV, and it was cool, it was incredibly realistic and there was this certain magic that drew me in to never let go. The city, in fact everything, was so realistic, I always got immersed immediately. So much that whenever I killed some innocent pedestrian in the game, I actually felt guilt and remorse. I felt sorry for doing that because I actually felt that this was a real city and these were real people.

 

Anyway, the GTA clones.

 

Saints Row was pretty good. One thing most of the GTA fans here don't seem to notice is that Saints Row introduced a lot of these cool features that are now in GTA. GPS, mobile phone, phone cheat codes and such. So you have to respect Saints Row for what it did. Then, Saints Row 2 was revolutionary. It was basically Saints Row 1, but everything was improved. The map was larger, more customisation, better clothes, you could play as a female this time, it was great and I felt it was better than GTAIV (please don't judge me) but it still didn't have that magic. Saints Row The Third was alright, but a major step back in the series. Whereas the humor in the first games was kind of interesting and witty (IE when Pierce always tried to make strategic plans and Johnny would just be an ass and dismiss them for some ass kicking, because he is a prick, but the good kind) the humour in Saints Row The Third was incredibly, maybe even too much, slapstick. With the slapstick being a giant dildo being equipped by a naked fat man with no penis... I mean, I can appreciate the silliness, but not Saints Row! Go make a new series instead and make that incredibly strange and silly and comedic. SRTT was good, but it ruined the franchise.

 

LA Noire was not really a GTA clone, but it kinda was. I mean, you could "jack" cars and run around for miles in a huge open world. But you couldn't commit crimes like randomly kill people because you were a good guy now. Personally, I think it is a puzzle game, but the open world things were put in there since it is the R* trademark and quality stamp. And it is great, a huge immersive world full of cars to legally jack, crimes to solve and landmarks to explore. Basically, a beggar's ticket to LA, but it was even better.

 

Just Cause 2 was good. But the map is too big (bigger than every GTA game since 3, LA Noire and RDR combined) and it barely has any interesting details. It is still a good game, but R* is advancing onto making bigger worlds with more detail, so I say that R* can definitely beating Just Cause 2.

 

I think that some GTA clones can be even better than GTA, but GTA still has that magic, and what R* will do with that magic in GTAV will determine whether R* are truly the king of the open world genre, or just another company trying to make a buck off the successful formula, only they invented the formula, so they will obviously get mor sales.

Edited June 15, 2013 by AndreyK

[mulder84]

And then there's Mafia. In my opinion that's one game that comes close to having everything as good as GTA, even better than GTA in some segments. Both Mafia games had better ped animations than GTA. If you just stand and look at them, they walk so natural it unbelievable. Mafia's flaw is basically having no sandbox (there is actually sandbox but nothing to do really), so you're focused on the story and once the story is finished, that's it. With more features added to make it enjoyable to just play around in sandbox, Mafia would be just as good as any GTA.

I think you're the only guy around here who isn't actively hating on Mafia II. Sure they many flaws, more than GTA IV in my opinion, but it was honestly better than expected once you look over those flaws, in some cases I dare say was on par with GTA IV, if not better. They nailed the mood pretty well too (though slightly anachronistic to their story).

 

Back to topic, I think what attributes to Rockstar's successes are their attention to detail. Their best work so far is RDR, and I don't think any other developers put so much in so little environment. What you could do in RDR's little towns and countryside was more than True Crime could put in the entire 1:1 size of New York City.

Another would be they rarely disappoint. Many other games, like NFS:The Run and ACIII, had so much potential, but they end up as "meh". Which is why I'm worried about Watch Dogs, although their previews and trailers look extremely good, they could always end up as lackluster in the end. But Rockstar's games are entirely different, they try as much as possible and mostly deliver as promised.

[TheKrigeron]

I'm on BOARD... hehe...he... ah f*ck myself

 

Anyway, GTA is simply big, detailed, you don't find a lot of copy asted locations, and it is simply GTA