GTAfan786 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 f*ck me, that is f*cking amazing! It's also one of the best companies along with Rockstar. I'm definitely getting Phantom Pain and GZ. Phantom pain IS ground zeroes. And it will be awesome! OT: it would be amazing if the next gta would use the fox engine though unlikely. Maybe in the future rockstar and kojima productions will collaborate and mix the RAGE engine with the FOX engine. It's not lol. GZ is actually a spin-off, nothing to do with the actual series. Some people say the game takes place before Phantom Pain, which has nothing to do with the original series. I thought that ground zeroes was the prologue mission. Like how in mgs 3 they had the virtuous mission which was a prologue to project snake eater. Ground Zeroes takes place 9 years before Phantom Pain and serves as prologue of events that lead up to The Phantom Pain. Both are part of Metal Gear Solid V according to Kojima himself. -Wheatley Ahh ok. It's confusing, since Big Boss is in a coma for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwinterj Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) Ground Zeroes takes place 9 years before Phantom Pain and serves as prologue of events that lead up to The Phantom Pain. Both are part of Metal Gear Solid V according to Kojima himself. -Wheatley Phantom Pain is MGS V. Thank you for clearing that up. As for GZ I believe it's unclear how that will be distributed but I hope it comes with MGS V. Edited June 9, 2013 by wwinterj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distrom Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Since I don't think FOX Engine is made for making Sandbox games in a huge scale like RAGE does, then I don't see GTA V running in FOX Engine, It could be optimized tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tori_95 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 GTA will probably not have those graphics for another 4 years at least. you mean 7 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theworldfamous Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I'm not gonna call it a great engine if it's not out there performing great for actual people on actual systems. But as a sexy innovation type thing.. it's pretty damn sexai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuXu96 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 pre rendered so what? looks good, like every render trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenpennyisplainevil Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 f*ck me, that is f*cking amazing! It's also one of the best companies along with Rockstar. I'm definitely getting Phantom Pain and GZ. Phantom pain IS ground zeroes. And it will be awesome! OT: it would be amazing if the next gta would use the fox engine though unlikely. Maybe in the future rockstar and kojima productions will collaborate and mix the RAGE engine with the FOX engine. It's not lol. GZ is actually a spin-off, nothing to do with the actual series. Some people say the game takes place before Phantom Pain, which has nothing to do with the original series. I thought that ground zeroes was the prologue mission. Like how in mgs 3 they had the virtuous mission which was a prologue to project snake eater. Ground Zeroes takes place 9 years before Phantom Pain and serves as prologue of events that lead up to The Phantom Pain. Both are part of Metal Gear Solid V according to Kojima himself. -Wheatley Ahh ok. It's confusing, since Big Boss is in a coma for a long time. Yeah, GZ is immediately after Peace Walker (1975), something happens that causes Snake to go into a coma. Phantom Pain, he wakes up and the story continues in 1984 (but we'll probably get to know what happened in those 9 years). Big fan of MGS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 RAGE is purpose built for Rockstar's style of games. For what Rockstar wants and needs, there's probably not a better engine to use than their own RAGE right now. It's not difficult to create great graphics on any engine, the reason why GTA V might not be as good looking as the next MGS or whatever is because of the style of game. Open world games aren't gonna be as pretty as linear games, it's just not possible because of hardware limitations. If Rockstar did end up using the FOX engine for GTA V, it's likely it wouldn't look much, if any, better than it does now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poklane Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I hate to do this, but also look at the difference between the new Activision engine and the CoD Ghosts gameplay. The difference it's huge. The engine can accomplish that in a room where nothing happens, no way it can achieve that in a big open world game with tons of different cars, gun, explosions, pedestrians, dialogues etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.Walters Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 GTA will probably not have those graphics for another 4 years at least. Enough time for GTa VI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeFox Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Even more beautiful with Unreal engine or Frostbite 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenpennyisplainevil Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 @Vidiz MGS is also open world @Poklane The gameplay trailers look just as impressive @Weshinator No, and on top of that this demo is current-gen while those are next-gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeThaL AsSeT Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 GTA will probably not have those graphics for another 4 years at least. which is pretty much when the next game after GTA V will most likely come out, so you never know a new Engine from Rockstar could be in the works for there next Gen titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP3CTR3 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 f*ck me, that is f*cking amazing! It's also one of the best companies along with Rockstar. I'm definitely getting Phantom Pain and GZ. Phantom pain IS ground zeroes. And it will be awesome! OT: it would be amazing if the next gta would use the fox engine though unlikely. Maybe in the future rockstar and kojima productions will collaborate and mix the RAGE engine with the FOX engine. It's not lol. GZ is actually a spin-off, nothing to do with the actual series. Some people say the game takes place before Phantom Pain, which has nothing to do with the original series. some game sites are saying that Ground Zeroes is a prologue to V so its part of the story in the same game. so you would play GZ then it would go into Phantom Pain. like Mgs3 did with its"Virtuous Mission" as a prologue and then it went to "Operation Snake Eater" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelhere9901 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerdude Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 If there's any engine out there, it's definitely gonna be Frostbite. FOX looks nice and all, but I'd imagine that's it, I don't think it can do things the other engines can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelhere9901 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 If there's any engine out there, it's definitely gonna be Frostbite.FOX looks nice and all, but I'd imagine that's it, I don't think it can do things the other engines can do. Such as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdude167 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Ho-ly f*ck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsdayFAN Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 GTA VI is going to be f**king amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelhere9901 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I find it interesting how physics and actual gameplay were never demonstrated in that tech demo. Just "Ooh look at our pretty cutscenes". Look, you can make the best looking car around, but without wheels it's not going anywhere. I don't give a f*ck about lighting tricks, just show me the damn game in action. Konami's MGSV focuses on photorealism. This is their intention. They used the FLOPS for graphics instead of 50/50 for physics and graphics, unlike what the majority of the developers are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUT THE BENZ Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I find it interesting how physics and actual gameplay were never demonstrated in that tech demo. Just "Ooh look at our pretty cutscenes". Look, you can make the best looking car around, but without wheels it's not going anywhere. I don't give a f*ck about lighting tricks, just show me the damn game in action. there. Flight of the Valkyries ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Tbh, I firmly believe that Rockstar could build an engine of this equal fidelity. Its no doubt the fox engine looks better. But yeah, npcs, open world game, traffic, etc. Kojima can put aside more memory for graphics with the Fox engine then the GTA engine. Maybe next gen Rockstar will create something similar. Ground Zero is open world. Maybe not GTA scale but it is still an open world game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal Moonshine Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 It would suck. GTA is not a stealth game. FOX engine is not meant for open world games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerdude Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 If there's any engine out there, it's definitely gonna be Frostbite.FOX looks nice and all, but I'd imagine that's it, I don't think it can do things the other engines can do. Such as? Such as Frostbite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelhere9901 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) If there's any engine out there, it's definitely gonna be Frostbite.FOX looks nice and all, but I'd imagine that's it, I don't think it can do things the other engines can do. Such as? Such as Frostbite. Well I was referring to "things". No need for an answer, I realized where you're coming from. Photorealism can be achieved even with a 2006 Engine. With static environments and static lighting, with little to no interaction. Edited June 9, 2013 by nigelhere9901 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKMoneyShizzle Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Mgs v looks amazing and people are correct ground Zeroes takes place right after peace walker and then leads into phantom pains via coma (which i think he gets from a helicopter crash) also ground zeroes will be purhased separately than lhantom pains. Kojima said ground zeroes is like a big tutorial for the phantom pain my guess digital dwonload, cant wait to play this beast on my ps4 also new trailer for the game on the 11th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fail_At_GTA Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 To me, next gen is currently only about graphics. A while after the next gen consoles are released, I'll probably buy one, as the game variety will be greater, system bugs would be fixed, and it will be cheaper. But, although I am a gameplay person, I can't deny that those graphics are indeed amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mista J Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Nah, I think next gen will be about physics within the game. No doubt the graphics will improve, but this time a rounds I think the leaps are going to be on how everything moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelhere9901 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Nah, I think next gen will be about physics within the game. No doubt the graphics will improve, but this time a rounds I think the leaps are going to be on how everything moves. In contrast, Kojima seems to be following the otherwise itinerary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazloisdavrock Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 thats running on PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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