They said GTA V is bigger than GTA SA right?

[bfett21]

So....from what i'm seeing, people think SA is Larger than  RDR. really?  *shrugs* I mean both are fictional, so does it really matter?

Doesn't really matter I just really have a bone to pick with people so Naive you know what I am saying dog?

 

I've got a card up my sleeve for the upcoming battle though.

SA was small compared to RDR in my opinion. I'm sorry, but the layout of SA wasn't all that great. RDR felt larger. But that's one mans opinion. someone who has played both games, for dozens of hours.

[GlitzyTomb]

I agree RDR felt larger, but then in RDR you didn't have cars or planes. The fastest thing you had was a horse (one of the Undead Nightmare horses was the fastest wasn't it?) rather than a car or even a plane.

 

 

[justgettinridiculous]

Dan Houser: "This world(RDR) is two times larger than the one presented in GTA: San Andreas."

This quote is unreliable. It was in a foreign language article, which means it was translated from Houser's English to another language and now back to English indirectly.

 

It's also irrelevant, because even if Dan Houser said it, it's proved wrong by Red Dead Redemption's own in-game distance measurements.

 

 

In the context of deductive arguments, the appeal to authority is an logical fallacy, though it can be properly used in the context of inductive reasoning. It is deductively fallacious because, while sound deductive arguments are necessarily true, authorities are not necessarily correct about judgments related to their field of expertise. Though reliable authorities are correct in judgments related to their area of expertise more often than laypersons, they can still come to the wrong judgments through error, bias or dishonesty. Thus, the appeal to authority is at best a probabilistic rather absolute argument for establishing facts.

Did you measure the Game? Zomg, RDR is actually bigger.. But if the SA Lovers want to continue to showcase there love by looking very dumb in the process then ok. Go right ahead..

amen

i dont guess these dipsh*ts have ever heard of games being scaled differently. "the in game measurement said san andreas is 100000 square miles" a mile is whatever they say it is every time they make a game. it isnt the real world. its a world that is fabricated by rockstar. if they want you to believe the map is 10miles wide then they can scale everything down and f*ck with the in game measurements and make it seem 10miles wide. they had much more limited hardware back then and probably used this as a trick to make the games feel bigger. good for them. red dead redemption is much much bigger. it is a fact that its bigger. dan houser specifically told us this in two different articles, one being in spanish and another in english. choco taco can color maps with crayons until his fingers blister and its not going to change anyones mind that knows rdr is bigger. we have played the games. they are both good games. red dead just happens to be bigger. big deal

[Choco Taco]

SA + IV + RDR

 

has to be close to

 

5 x RDR

 

Find the numbers for all 3 games that will make the above correct. Don't do anything stupid like suggesting "room to spare" equals the size of 2 GTA IV maps either.

[TripleRob]

Lol these so pointless ....

[TheGodDamnMaster]

Does it really matter that RDR may or may not be bigger/smaller than SA? No it doesn't.

 

All we need to know is that it's stated the game has an explorable area equivalent to 5 RDR maps. Why can't people just be content with that? That's MASSIVE.

[justgettinridiculous]

SA + IV + RDR

 

has to be close to

 

5 x RDR

 

Find the numbers for all 3 games that will make the above correct. Don't do anything stupid like suggesting "room to spare" equals the size of 2 GTA IV maps either.

we have been through this before ice cream sandwich. you know the quote was bigger than sa, iv, and rdr with room to spare. they didnt say the size of the map equaled sa plus iv plus rdr. the said the game is BIGGER than those three combined WITH ROOM TO SPARE! nice try though. you figure the math out on that one you let me know. im guessing youre probably running low on crayons

[Choco Taco]

we have been through this before ice cream sandwich. you know the quote was bigger than sa, iv, and rdr with room to spare. they didnt say the size of the map equaled sa plus iv plus rdr. the said the game is BIGGER than those three combined WITH ROOM TO SPARE! nice try though. you figure the math out on that one you let me know. im guessing youre probably running low on crayons

Give us your numbers so we can all have a good laugh when you suggest 30 square miles is "room to spare".

 

 

P.S. I see you're still mad that I made you search the internet for 2 hours for something I didn't even care about.

[ChocoFrosty]

Rockstar confirmed that SA is bigger then RDR.

prove it!lol RRock star confirmed the exact opposite. Rdr is roughly twice the size of San andreas

Compare the size of buildings on the RDR map to similarly sized ones on SA's map.

 

Yeah. You're horribly mistaken.

I'm fairly sure it's just trolling at this stage.

Yeah, I hope so.

 

It's still pretty annoying.

[Killerdude]

SA's size is purely illusion.

Because of the tiny draw distance and all that fog, makes the game seem big because you can't see it all at once.

 

San Andreas is tiny as f*ck.

[justgettinridiculous]

 

we have been through this before ice cream sandwich. you know the quote was bigger than sa, iv, and rdr with room to spare. they didnt say the size of the map equaled sa plus iv plus rdr. the said the game is BIGGER than those three combined WITH ROOM TO SPARE! nice try though. you figure the math out on that one you let me know. im guessing youre probably running low on crayons

Give us your numbers so we can all have a good laugh when you suggest 30 square miles is "room to spare".

 

 

P.S. I see you're still mad that I made you search the internet for 2 hours for something I didn't even care about.

see little man... you are delusional. i already told you i searched google and found my 1st source on the first page. it literally took less than 10 seconds. you and a few other sa fanboys kept bitching so i searched again and found my second source on the third or fourth page of results. i didnt have to click on any unwanted articles because the ones i didnt need all had gta v in the title. finding both sources and posting them took maybe MAYBE 5 minutes. i was more than happy to do so. ive already informed you of this, but as usual you choose to ignore the facts and make sh*t up. im sorry i dont like your crayon maps.

 

 

 

@killerdude

[Grand_Theft_Coupe]

I believe that GTA V is bigger than the world of Red Dead Redemption, GTA IV and GTA: SA combined. Now that could sound totally ridiculous, but majority of you people should realize that it isn't about precise measurements or anything beyond that matter. I believe it's about how you see the in-game world individually. Scale-wise, GTA V looks very spacious, detailed and very vast (and no I'm not talking about the size of Just Cause 2, but big enough). At the end of the day, when 9/17/2013 gets here, mathematics won't even matter because, it's about enjoying everything for what it has to offer! Like a person once said before... "Majority of people set themselves up for disappointment when it comes to open-world games!"

[Choco Taco]

justgettinridiculous,

 

The fact that you can't provide numbers that fit the statements about the GTA V map size says everything we need to know about you and your claims.

[justgettinridiculous]

justgettinridiculous,

 

The fact that you can't provide numbers that fit the statements about the GTA V map size says everything we need to know about you and your claims.

you listed "gta v = gta san andreas+ gta iv +red dead redmption"... where you got this formula no one knows...

 

the real formula would look more like (gta v) > (gta san andreas)+(gta iv)+(red dead redemption)+(x).

 

as was stated before rockstar said that gta v is BIGGER (>) than the three games mentioned WITH ROOM TO SPARE (x).

 

it was also stated that the land mass was 3.5x bigger than red dead redemptions map. the entire explorable map (water included) was 5x bigger than rdr.

 

how any of these statements prove any point you are trying to make is beyond me and it appears beyond you as well which is why you try to twist these statements to make them sound like what you want. i dont have to twist sh*t around. i didnt have to when i posted two links of dan houser stating rdr was roughly twice as big as san andreas. i didnt have to twist sh*t around when i posted these last statements. they are what they are. the formula i posted above is impossible to solve because x is unknown and gta v wouldnt equal whatever numbers you came up with even if you knew the value of x and the other three maps because they said gta was bigger. how much room to spare they meant and how much bigger gta v is... none of us know til the game is released. once again, you wasted a post and added nothing to the conversation. go color or something.

[dxbrandon]

SA's size is purely illusion.

Because of the tiny draw distance and all that fog, makes the game seem big because you can't see it all at once.

 

San Andreas is tiny as f*ck.

I love gta Sa, but i have to agree, the map was pretty small. At that time i really didn't care but now the map size is meh, but still my all time favorite.

[Ferocious Banger]

SA + IV + RDR

 

has to be close to

 

5 x RDR

 

Find the numbers for all 3 games that will make the above correct. Don't do anything stupid like suggesting "room to spare" equals the size of 2 GTA IV maps either.

Exactly. There is a mathematical impossibility in his argument.

[justgettinridiculous]

 

SA's size is purely illusion.

Because of the tiny draw distance and all that fog, makes the game seem big because you can't see it all at once.

 

San Andreas is tiny as f*ck.

I love gta Sa, but i have to agree, the map was pretty small. At that time i really didn't care but now the map size is meh, but still my all time favorite.

san andreas is a great game! i like it more than iv. i like red dead about the same as san andreas. maybe slightly less. it makes me chuckly though when these dipsh*ts get on here and say dan houser was wrong and choco tacos finger paintings prove so. every number pulled out on these threads about map size is covered in the sh*t of the guy that pulled them out of their ass. no one knows how the games are scaled. no one knows how different objects are sized. the only people that knows these unknown variables work at rockstar. thats why there is 100 different "scales" of los santos vs liberty city in the mapping and size thread. everyone sizes it different and no one knows whos right still.

 

@ferocious... did you not read anything rockstar released? as ive already stated that formula you posted means nothing. no one ever said gta=gta sa+gta iv+rdr.... no one... especially not rockstar

[Choco Taco]

justgettinridiculous,

 

Thank you for proving to everyone that you can't provide the numbers.

[justgettinridiculous]

justgettinridiculous,

 

Thank you for proving to everyone that you can't provide the numbers.

thank you for proving to everyone reading this thread that you either a) cant read b) ignore all logic on a regular basis. the formula you provided was made up by you. i provided the real formula.

 

here you go

 

(gta v) > (gta san andreas) + (gta iv) + (red dead redemption) + (x)

 

please choco.... pllllllleeeeeeaaaaassssse provide us the numbers that prove to all of us that you are correct...

[Magic_Al]

 

Dan Houser: "This world(RDR) is two times larger than the one presented in GTA: San Andreas."

This quote is unreliable. It was in a foreign language article, which means it was translated from Houser's English to another language and now back to English indirectly.

 

It's also irrelevant, because even if Dan Houser said it, it's proved wrong by Red Dead Redemption's own in-game distance measurements.

 

 

In the context of deductive arguments, the appeal to authority is an logical fallacy, though it can be properly used in the context of inductive reasoning. It is deductively fallacious because, while sound deductive arguments are necessarily true, authorities are not necessarily correct about judgments related to their field of expertise. Though reliable authorities are correct in judgments related to their area of expertise more often than laypersons, they can still come to the wrong judgments through error, bias or dishonesty. Thus, the appeal to authority is at best a probabilistic rather absolute argument for establishing facts.

Did you measure the Game? Zomg, RDR is actually bigger.. But if the SA Lovers want to continue to showcase there love by looking very dumb in the process then ok. Go right ahead..

Yes, I started posting about my RDR measuring project in fall 2011 and I've described the process many times, most recently here.

 

Anyone who takes an unbiased, scientific approach will get the same result I and others have: under 6 square miles for the accessible area of the game. If you ignore any numbers others have given and use the in-game distance stats and the map to figure the area mathematically yourself, the answer is there.

[justgettinridiculous]

Dan Houser: "This world(RDR) is two times larger than the one presented in GTA: San Andreas."

This quote is unreliable. It was in a foreign language article, which means it was translated from Houser's English to another language and now back to English indirectly.

 

It's also irrelevant, because even if Dan Houser said it, it's proved wrong by Red Dead Redemption's own in-game distance measurements.

 

 

In the context of deductive arguments, the appeal to authority is an logical fallacy, though it can be properly used in the context of inductive reasoning. It is deductively fallacious because, while sound deductive arguments are necessarily true, authorities are not necessarily correct about judgments related to their field of expertise. Though reliable authorities are correct in judgments related to their area of expertise more often than laypersons, they can still come to the wrong judgments through error, bias or dishonesty. Thus, the appeal to authority is at best a probabilistic rather absolute argument for establishing facts.

Did you measure the Game? Zomg, RDR is actually bigger.. But if the SA Lovers want to continue to showcase there love by looking very dumb in the process then ok. Go right ahead..

Yes, I started posting about my RDR measuring project in fall 2011 and I've described the process many times, most recently here.

 

Anyone who takes an unbiased, scientific approach will get the same result I and others have: under 6 square miles for the accessible area of the game. If you ignore any numbers others have given and use the in-game distance stats and the map to figure the area mathematically yourself, the answer is there.

false... you have no way of knowing whether or not the in game measurements are reliable and how the games are scaled. in fact the chances are worse than slim to none. the games were developed nearly a decade apart on different hardware and running on different engines. how on earth could you pretend that there is any accuracy in what you are saying?

[Choco Taco]

justgettinridiculous,

 

Proof that Houser exaggerates:

 

 

You lose.

[justgettinridiculous]

justgettinridiculous,

 

Proof that Houser exaggerates:

 

 

You lose.

i didnt lose anything but respect for you!lol that proves nothing. everyone knew they were gonna make a 1:1 scale madel of los angeles. that would be more boring than your finger paint projects! you have nothing to prove to me that rdr is smaller than san andreas. nothing......... im still waiting on that math you were so concerned about btw

[Choco Taco]

i didnt lose anything but respect for you!lol that proves nothing. everyone knew they were gonna make a 1:1 scale madel of los angeles. that would be more boring than your finger paint projects! you have nothing to prove to me that rdr is smaller than san andreas. nothing......... im still waiting on that math you were so concerned about btw

The in-game stats prove RDR is smaller than SA.

 

All you have backing your claim is a quote from a man who has been proven to exaggerate.

 

Like I said, you lose. Go to bed.

[justgettinridiculous]

i didnt lose anything but respect for you!lol that proves nothing. everyone knew they were gonna make a 1:1 scale madel of los angeles. that would be more boring than your finger paint projects! you have nothing to prove to me that rdr is smaller than san andreas. nothing.........  im still waiting on that math you were so concerned about btw

The in-game stats prove RDR is smaller than SA.

 

All you have backing your claim is a quote from a man who has been proven to exaggerate.

 

Like I said, you lose. Go to bed.

in game measurements measure the game you are playing... i didnt know rockstar came out with rdr and san andreas on the same map on the same disc in the same game. you can measure all you want in san andreas, and you can measure all you want in red dead redemption. the comparison of the two in game measurements proves nothing. the executive produce for red dead redemption is on record as saying rdr is roughly twice the size of san andreas. thats a fact. im not interested in any map estimates you and your butt buddies come up with. ill stick with rockstar, and go to bed... really?lol you gonna me me little man?

 

btw i noticed how you ignored that little math problem i gave you for homework... thats kinda what i figured you would do. you dont like facts much

[MikeyBelic]

Dan Houser writes games, he doesn't 'MAKE' them.

boy thats weird... he was the executive producer for red dead redemption.... read up first before you make stupid comments. he was a writer for san andreas. maybe if they had let him produce that one the map wouldnt have been so much smaller than red dead!

Meh. I'm hardly butthurt.

[Mr.Arrow]

i didnt lose anything but respect for you!lol that proves nothing. everyone knew they were gonna make a 1:1 scale madel of los angeles. that would be more boring than your finger paint projects! you have nothing to prove to me that rdr is smaller than san andreas. nothing.........  im still waiting on that math you were so concerned about btw

The in-game stats prove RDR is smaller than SA.

 

All you have backing your claim is a quote from a man who has been proven to exaggerate.

 

Like I said, you lose. Go to bed.

in game measurements measure the game you are playing... i didnt know rockstar came out with rdr and san andreas on the same map on the same disc in the same game. you can measure all you want in san andreas, and you can measure all you want in red dead redemption. the comparison of the two in game measurements proves nothing. the executive produce for red dead redemption is on record as saying rdr is roughly twice the size of san andreas. thats a fact. im not interested in any map estimates you and your butt buddies come up with. ill stick with rockstar, and go to bed... really?lol you gonna me me little man?

 

btw i noticed how you ignored that little math problem i gave you for homework... thats kinda what i figured you would do. you dont like facts much

You're not making any sense

[MikeyBelic]

And honestly, will you all shut up? RDR was 3 and a half years ago and San Andreas was nearly a decade, it has nothing to do with GTA V whatsoever and you can't change any of this hence it's just a waste of space.

[Ferocious Banger]

 

 

 

@ferocious... did you not read anything rockstar released? as ive already stated that formula you posted means nothing. no one ever said gta=gta sa+gta iv+rdr.... no one... especially not rockstar

 

Since you like "official stats" yourself, let me explain the mathematical impossibility ( at least, improbability ) here.

 

Officially, San Andreas is 13.9 square miles.;GTA IV is 6.25 square miles and, if "Officially", RDR is 27.8 square miles,

 

You get a size of 47.95

 

But GTA V is also 3.5 times * RDR. That would mean a size of 97.3 square miles, if RDR is 27.8 square miles.

 

The two equations simply do not gel with each other.

 

If RDR is 27.8 square miles ( twice as big as San Andreas ), GTA IV has to be.. 43.1 square miles.

 

[justgettinridiculous]

@ferocious... did you not read anything rockstar released? as ive already stated that formula you posted means nothing. no one ever said gta=gta sa+gta iv+rdr.... no one... especially not rockstar

 

Since you like "official stats" yourself, let me explain the mathematical impossibility ( at least, improbability ) here.

 

Officially, San Andreas is 13.9 square miles.;GTA IV is 6.25 square miles and, if "Officially", RDR is 27.8 square miles,

 

You get a size of 47.95

 

But GTA V is also 3.5 times * RDR. That would mean a size of 97.3 square miles, if RDR is 27.8 square miles.

 

The two equations simply do not gel with each other.

 

If RDR is 27.8 square miles ( twice as big as San Andreas ), GTA IV has to be.. 43.1 square miles.

 

wrong again... he said roughly twice as big!lol good try though