Ex hardcore US Navy SEAL becomes transgender

[Lil ski]

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/transgender-...31#.Ua2Jc7VwqSp

 

yup...discuss.

 

OP NOTE: Just like to make it clear, I don't think its anything bad or have anything against it. Dude- err..chick fought like a muthaf*ckin warrior for her country. I just thought it was an interesting article.

Edited June 4, 2013 by Lil ski

[Fnorg]

He's no Buck Angel, I tell ya what.

[EvilFuture]

Well, this is interesting...

[nightwalker83]

Some of the comments are hilarious. Good on her for doing what she thought was best.

[AKalashnikov]

I'll be impressed when she re-enlists.

[rudy]

I'd hit it.

 

Whoops! did I say that out loud?

 

Ok. it would hit me back. I mean dude....er...former dude was a seal. It would be al fun-and-games until she broke out the anal beads hooked together with barbed wire.

[Clem Fandango]

Can someone explain to me why this individual is any different from every other transgender person? What exactly is notable about this case?

[Fnorg]

Can someone explain to me why this individual is any different from every other transgender person? What exactly is notable about this case?

The fact that he was a butch Navy SEAL who killed bad dudes for 20 years? Usually traps don't have cool backgrounds like that.

[Cosmic Gypsy]

Can someone explain to me why this individual is any different from every other transgender person? What exactly is notable about this case?

The most notable thing about this case is the resemblance to Quagmires dad.

[GunWrath]

Bad case of PTSD?

[Clem Fandango]

The fact that he was very masculine only makes it less remarkable. There's a reason androgynous people tend not feel like they're trapped in the wrong gender. Only people who feel a great deal of pressure to conform to gender roles can feel that they're one is the wrong one.

 

That explains the "butch" aspect, the fact that he's a soldier has little to do with anything; there are women soldiers.

[rudy]

Can someone explain to me why this individual is any different from every other transgender person? What exactly is notable about this case?

The most notable thing about this case is the resemblance to Quagmires dad.

Nope, the most notable thing about this case is he WON'T be giving you a boner anymore.

[GTA_Loco]

Full of the lord's forgiveness I suppose.

[tuff_luv_capo]

It really bugs me when people say "she" or "her" when referring to this guy. People can do whatever they want, but you can't ACTUALLY change your gender.

[Cosmic Gypsy]

Can someone explain to me why this individual is any different from every other transgender person? What exactly is notable about this case?

The most notable thing about this case is the resemblance to Quagmires dad.

Nope, the most notable thing about this case is he WON'T be giving you a boner anymore.

No, i'll think you find my statement is far more notable/funny/relevant.

[Jimmy_Leppard]

I bet he's a Lady Gaga fan.

[Gtaghost22]

Like Melchior said, I don't see how this solider is any different from other transgenders. So, I'm not sure what do you want us to discuss exactly.

 

It really bugs me when people say "she" or "her" when referring to this guy. People can do whatever they want, but you can't ACTUALLY change your gender.

Why do you care so much?

Edited June 4, 2013 by Gtaghost22

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

Can someone explain to me why this individual is any different from every other transgender person? What exactly is notable about this case?

The fact that he was a butch Navy SEAL who killed bad dudes for 20 years? Usually traps don't have cool backgrounds like that.

And also how most Navy guys who are of other sexualities other than straight are usually completely closeted.

I actually know a lady who used to come to my work who worked in Defence, I remember we had emails from him stating something like;

 

"Reserving a place for defence force cadets on so and so date

Yours Sincerely; Michael.

 

(Michelle)"

 

I remember the lady was full of personality, it was quite funny because she would tell us how she forgot sometimes how she knew people, as a man, or as a woman, and it would cause a fair bit of confusion haha! I have nothing against trans-gendered people, I will however admit that I don't see it as normal just yet, since it's not something that I have always known.

Most people don't see it as normal, there is no animosity towards trans-genders, but it's still a bit of a foreign thing, it shouldn't be like that, but it is, over time it will change of course.

Edited June 4, 2013 by finn4life

[Clem Fandango]

It really bugs me when people say "she" or "her" when referring to this guy. People can do whatever they want, but you can't ACTUALLY change your gender.

Well if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, is referred to as a duck by others, looks like a duck and has the hormones and brain structure of a duck, then you are a bigot.

[tuff_luv_capo]

 

Like Melchior said, I don't see how this solider is any different from other transgenders. So, I'm not sure what do you want us to discuss exactly.

 

It really bugs me when people say "she" or "her" when referring to this guy. People can do whatever they want, but you can't ACTUALLY change your gender.

Why do you care so much?

It's not like I went out of my way to share my opinion. This is a discussion forum and this is the topic, I'm sharing my opinion. Otherwise I'd never have said anything about it. In my opinion we are adults now, and we are responsible for our decisions, but we can't actually alter our circumstances to fit them.

 

Even the most diehard straight supporter of this would be bothered if they found out they had slept with a transgendered man.

Edited June 4, 2013 by Tuff Luv Capo

[Finn 7 five 11]

Like Melchior said, I don't see how this solider is any different from other transgenders. So, I'm not sure what do you want us to discuss exactly.

 

It really bugs me when people say "she" or "her" when referring to this guy. People can do whatever they want, but you can't ACTUALLY change your gender.

Why do you care so much?

It's not like I went out of my way to share my opinion. This is a discussion forum and this is the topic, I'm sharing my opinion. Otherwise I'd never have said anything about it. In my opinion we are adults now, and we are responsible for our decisions, but we can't actually alter our circumstances to fit them.

But that's the hypocrisy. Everyone else's opinion is that you're a bigot, and it's their choice to share that opinion just like you have the choice to share your own.

[tuff_luv_capo]

 

Like Melchior said, I don't see how this solider is any different from other transgenders. So, I'm not sure what do you want us to discuss exactly.

It really bugs me when people say "she" or "her" when referring to this guy. People can do whatever they want, but you can't ACTUALLY change your gender.

Why do you care so much?

It's not like I went out of my way to share my opinion. This is a discussion forum and this is the topic, I'm sharing my opinion. Otherwise I'd never have said anything about it. In my opinion we are adults now, and we are responsible for our decisions, but we can't actually alter our circumstances to fit them.

But that's the hypocrisy. Everyone else's opinion is that you're a bigot, and it's their choice to share thaapologize fornion just like you have the choice to share your own

This is probably the dumbest conversation I've ever been in on this site. I never said he couldn't have an opinion, there is no hypocrisy. Also, I never said I don't support it, I brought up the FACT that genetically this person is still a man, regardless of what they want or feel. I apologize for using the word opinion falsely.

 

For the record, I work with a transgendered guy, and I think it's pretty cool that he had the balls (no pun intended) to go through with it because we work in basically the most redneck environment humanly possible. But he is still a he.

Edited June 4, 2013 by Tuff Luv Capo

[Gtaghost22]

 

But he is still a he.

But looks, sounds, feels and wants to be called a She.

[tuff_luv_capo]

But he is still a he.

But looks, sounds, feels and wants to be called a She.

Yup.

[Typhus]

I wonder, will they one day be able to give these women an artificial womb? I'm not being flippant, I'm genuinely asking.

I can't help but wonder how someone who was born a man would react to the sensation of giving birth.

 

They can do as they please. If they want to be a woman, let them be a woman, but I have always felt that true equality of the genders will only emerge from the destruction of gender identity itself. I would very much like to see the creation of a third gender, combining elements of the other two into a single being.

[Gtaghost22]

But he is still a he.

But looks, sounds, feels and wants to be called a She.

Yup.

Why does it bother you that people use 'She' or 'Her' to refer to ''guys'' like this, then?

[Finn 7 five 11]

Like Melchior said, I don't see how this solider is any different from other transgenders. So, I'm not sure what do you want us to discuss exactly.

 

It really bugs me when people say "she" or "her" when referring to this guy. People can do whatever they want, but you can't ACTUALLY change your gender.

Why do you care so much?

It's not like I went out of my way to share my opinion. This is a discussion forum and this is the topic, I'm sharing my opinion. Otherwise I'd never have said anything about it. In my opinion we are adults now, and we are responsible for our decisions, but we can't actually alter our circumstances to fit them.

But that's the hypocrisy. Everyone else's opinion is that you're a bigot, and it's their choice to share thaapologize fornion just like you have the choice to share your own

This is probably the dumbest conversation I've ever been in on this site. I never said he couldn't have an opinion, there is no hypocrisy. Also, I never said I don't support it, I brought up the FACT that genetically this person is still a man, regardless of what they want or feel. I apologize for using the word opinion falsely.

 

For the record, I work with a transgendered guy, and I think it's pretty cool that he had the balls (no pun intended) to go through with it because we work in basically the most redneck environment humanly possible. But he is still a he.

I dunno, i'd say there are many dumber convos to have here, but okay, that's your opinion haha!

 

I see what you mean now, I thought you quoted Melchior and said that, and I thought you were saying like "Don't hate on me, it's just my opinion." A lot of people do that.

I still think your opinion is stupid, but whatever, You probably can't change it in an instant.

[GTASAddict]

Here's what appalls me beyond belief: transgenders (transsexuals, transvestites, whatever the proper term in this case is) as young as 16 can receive these "reassignment" surgeries (with "parental consent", of course) whereas I'm 20 and surgeons refuse to perform a vasectomy on me.

[rudy]

I wonder, will they one day be able to give these women an artificial womb? I'm not being flippant, I'm genuinely asking.

I can't help but wonder how someone who was born a man would react to the sensation of giving birth.

 

They can do as they please. If they want to be a woman, let them be a woman, but I have always felt that true equality of the genders will only emerge from the destruction of gender identity itself. I would very much like to see the creation of a third gender, combining elements of the other two into a single being.

Here's hoping the same.

 

There has been several attempts in recent years to transplant uterus, but it hasn't been successful. But even if they manage to transplant one, unless they find a new hormone that makes the body re-develop as female (not likely) the bone shape will most likely not allow the birth of a child. This is not an ideal situation, but it's still an improvement.

 

It's still a while away but there's a great possibility that someday (who knows when), a transgender woman would be able to concieve a child.

[Saggy]

The only thing that really gets me about this kind of thing is why would you mutilate your genitals? I mean sure, if you could trade in for a real functioning vagina or penis or vise versa why not, but all we basically know how to do is hack bits and pieces and sew it together so it resembles a vagina or a penis. I mean, this girl's vagina will essentially be what's left of her dickhead as a clitoris, and her scrotum transformed into a vagina. Then on top of that, it's not self-cleaning like a real vagina... Can you imagine what that things going to do, it's going to be like a a giant smelly navel. And how the hell do they get the hair to stop growing... Okay going a little too far here, but sh*t it's like science experiments.

 

Now that's just what I don't understand about it. I mean, if you're a guy and you want to be a girl... Buy some tits and some cute dresses, change your name to something and start going by "she" and stuff but holy crap don't mutilate your genitals. I mean I guess if you looked down and every time you saw a penis where you thought there should be a vagina, that'd probably bum you out... But that's no reason to get rid of a perfectly working penis for a friggin' nutsack beaver. I don't know what they do to a woman's vagina to turn it into a penis but probably something equally as horrifying and out of Frankenstein's Monster.

 

I'm not even trying to be gross or shocking, the whole field of genital reconstruction surgery just seems to border on malpractice to me. I've seen shows where people have had the surgeries and had complications and had to continue to get more and more surgeries, and I mean it's like these people are guinea pigs--and best case scenario you get something that kind of looks like what it should and always has diminished sexual function. Meanwhile the people pushing for this type of operation are usually plastic surgeons who like with other body modification surgeries will pressure a client to believe that if they modify their body then they will feel better about themselves.