shadyslady Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 We all all know the Lost and A.O.D. will appear in GTA V. As for the A.O.D., we already know they have chapters across the whole US (in the fictional GTA world). The Lost is only based in the Liberty City Area, meaning Broker and Alderney. During friendship activites with Jim, Clay and Terry in TLAD, Clay suggests: "How about we going nationwide? The Lost across the whole nation." Johnny rejects this idea. However, as we all know the clubhouse got burned down, the Lost Chapter in Sandy Shores at least has to get started by some member from The Lost in Alderney/Broker. Sure Rockstar can just put in there some random members we never heard about. But logically, it must have been someone a little higher in the hierarchy. I'm not expecting Johnny Klebitz to appear. Still, a reference must be there. I wouldn't mind killing them remaining and known members. The best, Jim, is already dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Interesting theroy. Surely we have to see a face or two from TLAD, I'd be a bit disappointed if not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arran B Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 We all all know the Lost and A.O.D. will appear in GTA V. As for the A.O.D., we already know they have chapters across the whole US (in the fictional GTA world).The Lost is only based in the Liberty City Area, meaning Broker and Alderney. During friendship activites with Jim, Clay and Terry in TLAD, Clay suggests: "How about we going nationwide? The Lost across the whole nation." Johnny rejects this idea. However, as we all know the clubhouse got burned down, the Lost Chapter in Sandy Shores at least has to get started by some member from The Lost in Alderney/Broker. Sure Rockstar can just put in there some random members we never heard about. But logically, it must have been someone a little higher in the hierarchy. I'm not expecting Johnny Klebitz to appear. Still, a reference must be there. I wouldn't mind killing them remaining and known members. The best, Jim, is already dead. It was such a shame Jim got killed. I was really hoping he'd reappear in V. He was a decent character. Maybe he didn't actually die after all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solofme Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Well I've said this before, but there must be some talk about the LC chapter. Maybe Angus rolled to LS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyslady Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 It was such a shame Jim got killed. I was really hoping he'd reappear in V. He was a decent character. Maybe he didn't actually die after all? He is dead. Rockstar messed the character models a bit up. While Jim was this fat, white bald biker in GTA IV, the very same model appears also in TLAD along with Jim. But the police identified Jim's corpse. As the other biker is meant to crash into the train (even though you can kill him earlier). However, considering GTA V and the LOST in Sandy Shores. Like I said, it must be started by someone from Broker/Alderney. Otherwise it would be like: Hey, let's start an outlaw MC and call ourselves the LOST, with an eagle as the logo. I have a feeling Rockstar might have overlooked this particular fact. They themselves wrote the script that way, only having an Alderney and Broker Chapter. And Clay asking for this nationwide expansion. I can see how there won't be any familiar names since Rockstar tends to have many plot holes in their stories. I hope 5 years time of development were enough to notice, it must have been someone from TLAD. Terry and Clay got nothing to do anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Johnny, Terry and Brian have a patch that reads "I Rode Mine, Los Santos, 2004", so they must have stopped over in LS at some point so staying at another chapter would make sense, there has to be something out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arran B Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 It was such a shame Jim got killed. I was really hoping he'd reappear in V. He was a decent character. Maybe he didn't actually die after all? He is dead. Rockstar messed the character models a bit up. While Jim was this fat, white bald biker in GTA IV, the very same model appears also in TLAD along with Jim. But the police identified Jim's corpse. As the other biker is meant to crash into the train (even though you can kill him earlier). However, considering GTA V and the LOST in Sandy Shores. Like I said, it must be started by someone from Broker/Alderney. Otherwise it would be like: Hey, let's start an outlaw MC and call ourselves the LOST, with an eagle as the logo. I have a feeling Rockstar might have overlooked this particular fact. They themselves wrote the script that way, only having an Alderney and Broker Chapter. And Clay asking for this nationwide expansion. I can see how there won't be any familiar names since Rockstar tends to have many plot holes in their stories. I hope 5 years time of development were enough to notice, it must have been someone from TLAD. Terry and Clay got nothing to do anyway. Huh. I never noticed this variation of Jim in IV. Can you link me a pic? OT: my money's genuinely on johnny. I really don't see why not. I can imagine him maybe going nomad or entirely just moving to SoCal to start afresh with his remaining brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyslady Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 Johnny, Terry and Brian have a patch that reads "I Rode Mine, Los Santos, 2004", so they must have stopped over in LS at some point so staying at another chapter would make sense, there has to be something out there. Yes, look, in the GTA universe, they wouldn't have it to justify it to me. Rockstar could easily put a LOST MC chapter in Los Santos, Fierro, Venturas, Vice,.... I wouldn't mind. Hell no, I'd welcome it. The thing is, they say there is only the LOST on the east coast in the Liberty City are. I'm not sure about the website, maybe it's stated there, too. but for a fact: Hang out with Jim, Terry and Clay. Clay will start this particular conversation at a time. He says there is only the Lost in the mentioned area and wants to expand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THUNDER-TRUMP Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Johnny's jacket had a patch saying something along the lines of 'I rode mine los santos 2004' Maybe they were already established over there by the time of TLAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paralysic Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I love Clay. ''Bend over bitch!! Youre about to get f*ckED!'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Johnny, Terry and Brian have a patch that reads "I Rode Mine, Los Santos, 2004", so they must have stopped over in LS at some point so staying at another chapter would make sense, there has to be something out there. Beat me to it. It's highly likely, in narrative terms, that the "seeds" were sewn then, and after the Alderney chapter collapsed, one of the senior members - Terry Clay or Angus, doubtful johnny - left the city and went to LS where, in 2004, they made friends. They hooked up with fellow bikers whos own MC was in dire straights. So they hooked up, naming themselves The Lost, out of memory of those fallen. Thus a new chapter was born Plus, iirc, AoD are nationwide? There would be such rivalry there, so that would explain the LS MC's problems. Also possible a chapter of The Lost was started in 2004 during the ride, and it remained tiny. When they mentioned "going nationwide" they merely spoke of building on the two chapters etc. In my fanfic (justice in flames), I had The Lost members return, but with The Lost being dead to Johnny, they named themselves "Remnants of The Lost MC" - a similar thing could happen with LS, eventually becoming the lost again. It could be explained very easily in multiple ways. The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalMilitia Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 i dont want to face the Lost or the AOD, i actually want to help them in their buisness, i always wanted to be in a MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyslady Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 Johnny's jacket had a patch saying something along the lines of 'I rode mine los santos 2004' Maybe they were already established over there by the time of TLAD This is the reference to a motorcycle festival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 i dont want to face the Lost or the AOD, i actually want to help them in their buisness, i always wanted to be in a MC Unfortunately, it looks like Trevor only has an antagonistic relationship wth The Lost MC. Hell, Trevor seems to have an antagonistic relationship with everyone, even his friends. @shadyslady Yeah, it's likely that they were just on a road trip or 'ride' in Los Santos. Can't wait to see which of the remaining members shows up in V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic81 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Why do people keep insisting the AOD are there? this is like people saying Las Venturas and San Fierro is there, when Rockstar cleary said its ONLY Los Santos and the surrounding areas. and what clay says is a mistake on Rockstars part. whether the lost had other chapters outside LC wasn't stated or proved. there was evidence that they not only controlled LC but other cities as well (one of them is the LS patch Johnny, Brian and Terry had) and at the same time it was mentioned that they were an exclusive LC chapter. So saying they are an exclusive liberty city chapter isn't fair and saying they had other chapters isn't fair either. i blame Rockstar for their sh*tty writing. but now im inclined to believe that they did actually have more than one chapter because of what ive seen in V trailers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogy Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 i dont want to face the Lost or the AOD, i actually want to help them in their buisness, i always wanted to be in a MC Ever played Lost and Damned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) Why do people keep insisting the AOD are there? this is like people saying Las Venturas and San Fierro is there, when Rockstar cleary said its ONLY Los Santos and the surrounding areas. and what clay says is a mistake on Rockstars part. whether the lost had other chapters outside LC wasn't stated or proved. there was evidence that they not only controlled LC but other cities as well (one of them is the LS patch Johnny, Brian and Terry had) and at the same time it was mentioned that they were an exclusive LC chapter. So saying they are an exclusive liberty city chapter isn't fair and saying they had other chapters isn't fair either. i blame Rockstar for their sh*tty writing. but now im inclined to believe that they did actually have more than one chapter because of what ive seen in V trailers. Mainly because the AOD is the biggest MC in the GTA universe & is based on the Hell's Angels, which started in California (during the 40's I believe). It would be strange if they weren't there. "Sh*tty writing"? The inconsistencies between IV, TLAD & TBOGT while annoying, shows R*'s DLC was an ongoing & fluid creative process. Not just some dlc which was completed during the initial development phase. This won't be a problem in V, as all three stories will be completed at the same time. Edited May 31, 2013 by jamieleng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corndawg93 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'd love to see Terry and Clay make a return, and if Trevor is forced to kill either of them then that would piss me (and pretty much everyone on this forums) off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalMilitia Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 i dont want to face the Lost or the AOD, i actually want to help them in their buisness, i always wanted to be in a MC Ever played Lost and Damned? yep, best GTA ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicluca Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Great theory, I hope some of the Lost do return. I can't wait to f*ck them up as Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyslady Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 Why do people keep insisting the AOD are there? this is like people saying Las Venturas and San Fierro is there, when Rockstar cleary said its ONLY Los Santos and the surrounding areas. The AOD is the GTA equivalent to the Hell's Angels, and while this doesn't necessarily mean they have to be as present across the whole (fictional) GTA world, it is already stated in TLAD that the AOD has chapters across the whole nation. Just check the website of the AOD and the LOST ingame in TLAD. As for the AOD, their leader in from San Fierro actually. Look up the LCPD databse. and what clay says is a mistake on Rockstars part. whether the lost had other chapters outside LC wasn't stated or proved. there was evidence that they not only controlled LC but other cities as well (one of them is the LS patch Johnny, Brian and Terry had) and at the same time it was mentioned that they were an exclusive LC chapter. Yes. Like I said, me, and I assume anyone wouldn't bother if we don't exactly see anyone familiar from the LOST MC from Alderney. And Rockstar can remain silent about the origin and just put the Sandy Shores chapter there like it ain't no thing. If they keep up the HD universe story though and try to avoid plot holes, it mus have been started by someone from Broker/Alderney, because they are the only ones. -> Like said before, Clay says this. And I guess the Lost website, too. So saying they are an exclusive liberty city chapter isn't fair and saying they had other chapters isn't fair either. i blame Rockstar for their sh*tty writing. but now im inclined to believe that they did actually have more than one chapter because of what ive seen in V trailers. Yes, this can be a pain in the ass. They screw a lot of things up during the plot of GTA IV, for instance: - the whole trinity diamond thing - the diamonds' destination at the end of the story - Jim's character model - many facts about individuals in the LCPD database etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyslady Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 And no hate towards Johnny, Terry and Clay. I like this couple. The dialogue between Clay and Terry is hilarious. Clay:"Let's do this." - shootout starts - Terry:"What EXACTLY are we doin?!" Clay:"Stop asking dumb questions!" (Clay in his whiskey-driven-voice) The end of TLAD is kind of a downer. No more clubhouse and everything feels like a miserable end. Jim is dead. And all you got is biased Johnny and dedicated members Clay and Terry. (Angus doesn't appear, despite in cutscenes and on the phone). The rest is some bunch of silent members who will die right away in the next gang war. While I don't exactly want Klebitz, Clay and Terry to be antagonists, I wouldn't mind them being ones though. At least they would go out with some kind of climax. Victor Vance got taken out at the very beginning of VC. Yet Rockstar decided to dedicate a whole GTA offspring to him. Terry, Clay and Klebitz are expendable. It doesn't have to be like this. But it'll be a neat little easter egg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Roman Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I wish Bill Burrs character wasnt dead. I would have loved for him to return for another voice over in V. Its definitely possible that some secondary Lost and AOD characters will return though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyslady Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 I wish Bill Burrs character wasnt dead. I would have loved for him to return for another voice over in V. Its definitely possible that some secondary Lost and AOD characters will return though As for the voice actor: he can return. Jason Michaels might be dead. But Woozie's voice actor reappears in GTA IV and TLAD as this undercover cop named Charlie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Roman Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I wish Bill Burrs character wasnt dead. I would have loved for him to return for another voice over in V. Its definitely possible that some secondary Lost and AOD characters will return though As for the voice actor: he can return. Jason Michaels might be dead. But Woozie's voice actor reappears in GTA IV and TLAD as this undercover cop named Charlie. Really? Thats pretty cool about the the woozie VO. I didnt know that I know R* said they would keep celeb voices to the minimum if not completely keep them out. Bill Burrs not a huge movie star but fans of stand up would hear his voice in a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyslady Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 I wish Bill Burrs character wasnt dead. I would have loved for him to return for another voice over in V. Its definitely possible that some secondary Lost and AOD characters will return though As for the voice actor: he can return. Jason Michaels might be dead. But Woozie's voice actor reappears in GTA IV and TLAD as this undercover cop named Charlie. Really? Thats pretty cool about the the woozie VO. I didnt know that I know R* said they would keep celeb voices to the minimum if not completely keep them out. Bill Burrs not a huge movie star but fans of stand up would hear his voice in a second. But as Rockstar said themselves, they have quite a hand for scouting good, yet unknown voice actors. I mean, look at Clay, Billy, Terry, Brian,...hell, everyone from the cast has a fitting voice. The only one who is kind of not worthy to be a protagonist's voice is Luis Lopez. He sounds somewhat boring, not distinctive enough to stand out. Back on topic: It'll be nice if the turf war between Trevor and The Lost ends up like this: Trevor will be able to start a business relationship with Lost. It can be an uneasy alliance. Just like Ray Boccino and the Lost. Hire them for certain missions as a backup, as a diversionary tactic. Or it can turn out like with PBX, like, you wipe out the most of the Lost. Trevor gets access to their clubhouse, their weapons, and even their clothing. So Michael, Franklin and Trevor can disguise themselves as members of the Lost for some missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennonNL Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 i dont want to face the Lost or the AOD, i actually want to help them in their buisness, i always wanted to be in a MC Ever played Lost and Damned? yep, best GTA ever I didn't like TLAD, the character and the story line wasn't my cup of tea. Also, the visuals definitely seemed more blurry and less saturated to me, but maybe that's just me - TBOGT seemed to look so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyslady Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 i dont want to face the Lost or the AOD, i actually want to help them in their buisness, i always wanted to be in a MC Ever played Lost and Damned? yep, best GTA ever I didn't like TLAD, the character and the story line wasn't my cup of tea. Also, the visuals definitely seemed more blurry and less saturated to me, but maybe that's just me - TBOGT seemed to look so much better. Good point. This is something that drags down the whole atmosphere, too. The look of it. At first it seems fitting. But when the good missions are done, most people are dead, the game gets kind of ugly. The look of it. It nearly screams: reject the game. TBOGT looks ok so much better in terms of graphics, or well, look. The filter in TLAD is too blurry. TLAD also didn't live up to its potential. It is what it is. A filler. Certainly fun, but with more time, EFLC could have been even more. But that's vain right now. I'm looking forward to smash some bikers' heads with bat playing as Trevor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennonNL Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 i dont want to face the Lost or the AOD, i actually want to help them in their buisness, i always wanted to be in a MC Ever played Lost and Damned? yep, best GTA ever I didn't like TLAD, the character and the story line wasn't my cup of tea. Also, the visuals definitely seemed more blurry and less saturated to me, but maybe that's just me - TBOGT seemed to look so much better. Good point. This is something that drags down the whole atmosphere, too. The look of it. At first it seems fitting. But when the good missions are done, most people are dead, the game gets kind of ugly. The look of it. It nearly screams: reject the game. TBOGT looks ok so much better in terms of graphics, or well, look. The filter in TLAD is too blurry. TLAD also didn't live up to its potential. It is what it is. A filler. Certainly fun, but with more time, EFLC could have been even more. But that's vain right now. I'm looking forward to smash some bikers' heads with bat playing as Trevor. Yeah, that's something they drastically improved for TBOGT, and even more in RDR and MP3. If GTA V is anything like RDR in terms of sharpness and saturation, I'll be very happy! (and it looks like it will be) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyslady Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 Yeah, that's something they drastically improved for TBOGT, and even more in RDR and MP3. If GTA V is anything like RDR in terms of sharpness and saturation, I'll be very happy! (and it looks like it will be) Sure. Graphics look very good in GTA V. I mean, we already see they look great. GTA V will not step back from RDR. RDR's graphics already look amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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