Heat Seeking Missiles

[EvilFuture]

I don't know about any of you, but I really hope the heat seeking missles are back. Not because they are fun to use or anything, but because of one of the worst things that us GTA fans can agree on...

 

The stupid pieces of sh*t online who ruin everything with their stupid ass helicopters

 

This gets so annoying, especially on TBoGT because of the Buzzard. This has happened to me countless number of times. I'm usually just riding around, minding my own business when all of the sudden some big f*cking helicopter comes out of nowhere and blows me up. The reason I want heat seeking missiles, rather than the RPG, is because if the little cowards try to fly away, that isn't going to help them. I think it's hilarious when you are equipped with an RPG and they fly up to you all big and bad like the floppy meat flaps they are, but when they see you pull that mother f*cker out of your shirt pocket, they get out of there.

 

So, heat seeking missiles... good idea or not?

[minwager]

Then you'd have the guys who shoot down aircraft just to be dicks. A battlefield-style flare system would be nice.

[redx165]

I don't know about any of you, but I really hope the heat seeking missles are back. Not because they are fun to use or anything, but because of one of the worst things that us GTA fans can agree on...

 

The stupid pieces of sh*t online who ruin everything with their stupid ass helicopters

 

This gets so annoying, especially on TBoGT because of the Buzzard. This has happened to me countless number of times. I'm usually just riding around, minding my own business when all of the sudden some big f*cking helicopter comes out of nowhere and blows me up. The reason I want heat seeking missiles, rather than the RPG, is because if the little cowards try to fly away, that isn't going to help them. I think it's hilarious when you are equipped with an RPG and they fly up to you all big and bad like the floppy meat flaps they are, but when they see you pull that mother f*cker out of your shirt pocket, they get out of there.

 

So, heat seeking missiles... good idea or not?

I say bring it back.

[EvilFuture]

Then you'd have the guys who shoot down aircraft just to be dicks. A battlefield-style flare system would be nice.

Hmm... I didn't think about that. lol I guess there's just gonna be douche bags no matter what way you turn!

[EvilFuture]

Well, this thread was a flop. lol

[GlitzyTomb]

I'd like that, so long as it was possible to out run them.

 

If they were just instant death to anyone in a heli/jet I wouldn't like them. If you're flying away from the guy who shoots it at you you should be able to continue on and by performing sufficiently daring maneuvers lose the missile.

 

If you're hovering though, yeah you should be dusted. If you're going at a moderate speed, dusted. If you suck at flying, dusted.

 

 

[minwager]

I'd like that, so long as it was possible to out run them.

 

If they were just instant death to anyone in a heli/jet I wouldn't like them. If you're flying away from the guy who shoots it at you you should be able to continue on and by performing sufficiently daring maneuvers lose the missile.

 

If you're hovering though, yeah you should be dusted. If you're going at a moderate speed, dusted. If you suck at flying, dusted.

As I said, a Battlefield style flare system would work well too.

[EvilFuture]

I'd like that, so long as it was possible to out run them.

 

If they were just instant death to anyone in a heli/jet I wouldn't like them.  If you're flying away from the guy who shoots it at you you should be able to continue on and by performing sufficiently daring maneuvers lose the missile.

 

If you're hovering though, yeah you should be dusted.  If you're going at a moderate speed, dusted.  If you suck at flying, dusted.

As I said, a Battlefield style flare system would work well too.

Can you please explain that to me? I don't play Battlefield, so I don't know what that is.

[datboishad]

floppy meat flaps

[MikeyBelic]

I don't know about any of you, but I really hope the heat seeking missles are back. Not because they are fun to use or anything, but because of one of the worst things that us GTA fans can agree on...

 

The stupid pieces of sh*t online who ruin everything with their stupid ass helicopters

 

This gets so annoying, especially on TBoGT because of the Buzzard. This has happened to me countless number of times. I'm usually just riding around, minding my own business when all of the sudden some big f*cking helicopter comes out of nowhere and blows me up. The reason I want heat seeking missiles, rather than the RPG, is because if the little cowards try to fly away, that isn't going to help them. I think it's hilarious when you are equipped with an RPG and they fly up to you all big and bad like the floppy meat flaps they are, but when they see you pull that mother f*cker out of your shirt pocket, they get out of there.

 

So, heat seeking missiles... good idea or not?

Maybe.

If jets and helicopters had a pair of flares that reloaded every 2 minutes after using them.

[Goneinfiveseconds]

i think its back

 

 

 

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[minwager]

 

I'd like that, so long as it was possible to out run them.

 

If they were just instant death to anyone in a heli/jet I wouldn't like them.  If you're flying away from the guy who shoots it at you you should be able to continue on and by performing sufficiently daring maneuvers lose the missile.

 

If you're hovering though, yeah you should be dusted.  If you're going at a moderate speed, dusted.  If you suck at flying, dusted.

As I said, a Battlefield style flare system would work well too.

Can you please explain that to me? I don't play Battlefield, so I don't know what that is.

In BF, when a player is locking on to you, you hear a beeping sound. You can press the flare button to send a flare out that the missile will target instead of you, giving you a chance to escape before he fires another missile (you only get one flare). This provides a good balance because it doesn't mean insta-death for the person being shot at, but it's still possible to shoot the aircraft down. It worked perfectly there, so I don't see why it wouldn't work in GTA.

[EvilFuture]

I'd like that, so long as it was possible to out run them.

 

If they were just instant death to anyone in a heli/jet I wouldn't like them.  If you're flying away from the guy who shoots it at you you should be able to continue on and by performing sufficiently daring maneuvers lose the missile.

 

If you're hovering though, yeah you should be dusted.  If you're going at a moderate speed, dusted.  If you suck at flying, dusted.

As I said, a Battlefield style flare system would work well too.

Can you please explain that to me? I don't play Battlefield, so I don't know what that is.

In BF, when a player is locking on to you, you hear a beeping sound. You can press the flare button to send a flare out that the missile will target instead of you, giving you a chance to escape before he fires another missile (you only get one flare). This provides a good balance because it doesn't mean insta-death for the person being shot at, but it's still possible to shoot the aircraft down. It worked perfectly there, so I don't see why it wouldn't work in GTA.

That actually sounds perfect. I think it would work well. And for the people who are sh*t pilots... oh well

[_L1pE_]

I'd like that, so long as it was possible to out run them.

 

If they were just instant death to anyone in a heli/jet I wouldn't like them.  If you're flying away from the guy who shoots it at you you should be able to continue on and by performing sufficiently daring maneuvers lose the missile.

 

If you're hovering though, yeah you should be dusted.  If you're going at a moderate speed, dusted.  If you suck at flying, dusted.

As I said, a Battlefield style flare system would work well too.

Can you please explain that to me? I don't play Battlefield, so I don't know what that is.

In BF, when a player is locking on to you, you hear a beeping sound. You can press the flare button to send a flare out that the missile will target instead of you, giving you a chance to escape before he fires another missile (you only get one flare). This provides a good balance because it doesn't mean insta-death for the person being shot at, but it's still possible to shoot the aircraft down. It worked perfectly there, so I don't see why it wouldn't work in GTA.

You also had that in SA, though it was infinite there, that's the only thing I don't like about the vehicle weapons, they have infinite ammo, they're much more powerful than anything we can carry on our person, but we still gotta have ammo for our guns while the vehicle weapons don't, they should really change that, places to refill vehicle ammo for a price, make us have more use for our money as well if we want to use nigh unstoppable killing machines (well, nigh unstoppable if you use it against the NPCs in SP).

[BlackNoise]

"No" because I'm not a fan of GMs. I just don't like the idea of "Fire-and-forget". Maybe if they went oldschool and forced you to continue to aim at the target to guide it. That way it would be a much bigger risk to use it.

[GlitzyTomb]

Flares are chunks of reflective metal that jets jettison (drop out) as a decoy.

 

The targeting systems of the missiles have a chance of locking onto them instead of the jet.

 

That would be fun too...but I personally would prefer it to just be a matter of piloting. Sooner or later you will run out of flares, don't want to be defenseless when that happens.

 

Plus how fun would it be to be driving along when you see some guy in a plane performing acrobatics in the air trying to keep from blowing up.

 

Do a Barrel Roll!

[MuXu96]

noob weapon, at least you should be able to disable this crap in multiplayer on some servers

[_L1pE_]

"No" because I'm not a fan of GMs. I just don't like the idea of "Fire-and-forget". Maybe if they went oldschool and forced you to continue to aim at the target to guide it. That way it would be a much bigger risk to use it.

In SA guided missiles were much slower than dumb-fired ones, they could have that again to balance it, and while I also don't like fire-and-forget stuff, wouldn't your idea basically make it a laser-guided missile? Not that I would be opposed to have that instead of heat seaking ones.

[MikeyBelic]

Flares are chunks of reflective metal that jets jettison (drop out) as a decoy.

 

The targeting systems of the missiles have a chance of locking onto them instead of the jet.

 

That would be fun too...but I personally would prefer it to just be a matter of piloting. Sooner or later you will run out of flares, don't want to be defenseless when that happens.

 

Plus how fun would it be to be driving along when you see some guy in a plane performing acrobatics in the air trying to keep from blowing up.

 

Do a Barrel Roll!

I suggested they reload every 2 minutes (rl time)

[5000 Staples]

Just like to point out there is two different questions in this thread.

 

1/ are heat seeking missiles back.

2/ Should there be Heat Seeking Missiles to get rid of the douchebags online?

 

Yes to both as long as there is plane flares to lose them, limited online. unlimited offline.

[MuXu96]

well we will see how complex the dogfights will be, if they but in heat seekers they need flares, then they have to balance it.. if they do a good job it's fine, even tho heat seekers are always annoying^^

 

EDIT: Just saw this screenshot from the trailer again

 

And it kinda looks to me like these missiles ARE guided, don't you guys think?^^

[richard1997jones]

Every time someone repeatedly kicks one person or goes around kicking everybody at once deserves that special treatment.

[tenpennyisplainevil]

Stingers should be exclusive to SP. In multiplayer you will either get douchebags that shoot at any aircraft or you will have the pilots use their flares and return within 10 seconds, rendering the stingers useless and more of a means to scare off pilots for a limited time than a means to kill them.

[Mokrie Dela]

The "online" argument is a complex one. ANY weapon, used online, will be abused. Any vehicle, or tactic too.

Should heat seekers return? Yes. Should they be omitted because people will abuse them online? No. Instead they should be restricted online. Each spawn containing only one missile. Same with the aircraft.

 

Everyone's going on about how the jets will be abused online, but tbh, i don't see that as a problem. Jets are too fast to be a threat to the footsoldiers on the ground. Even cars too. Thats what helicopters are for. No, jets are only a real threat to other aircraft, and it'll take skill to take one specific target out on ground.

 

 

A solution i see R* doing is limiting the ammo of aircraft weapons. 5 rockets and 100 machinegun rounds. It wouldnt solve it completely but it'd help.

 

 

 

tl;dr - Yes they should return, but R* needs to be smart with it all.

 

 

[Goneinfiveseconds]

 

Stingers should be exclusive to SP. In multiplayer you will either get douchebags that shoot at any aircraft or you will have the pilots use their flares and return within 10 seconds, rendering the stingers useless and more of a means to scare off pilots for a limited time than a means to kill them.

maybe they will make the flares fail like in BF3 sometimes i still got hit with missiles when i deploy flares

[MuXu96]

Stingers should be exclusive to SP. In multiplayer you will either get douchebags that shoot at any aircraft or you will have the pilots use their flares and return within 10 seconds, rendering the stingers useless and more of a means to scare off pilots for a limited time than a means to kill them.

maybe they will make the flares fail like in BF3 sometimes i still got hit with missiles when i deploy flares

that's a bug as far as I know, or if the missiles are to close when you use the flares it still hits

[Chris Fromage]

Then you'd have the guys who shoot down aircraft just to be dicks. A battlefield-style flare system would be nice.

OMG! not everything is from BF!

GTA San andreas had it too! Why do you people always think your game got everything!?

 

That's how it would sound if he said COD instead of BF

[Patrizio]

Well it begs the question how it will work at 5 stars when we're flying around the sky - how will they shoot us down? Police jets? Heat seeking missiles? It has to be one of the two.

[The Scottish Guy]

From another thread:

 

(thought it would be quite fitting here )

 

 

After I finish the SP campaign first, I'm going to totally master piloting all the fighter jets (the buzzards handling will most likely be the same as TBoGT, and I'm already a pro in that thing). Then the first thing I'm going to do in MP Free Mode is completely troll the sh*t out of everyone with the jets. If I see a couple of guys trying to have a round of golf, guess what, they'll be shouting more than "four" when I come for them. If I see a group of friends hiking and exploring the mountains, I'm going to do my utter best to blow them off the cliff edges.

 

It's going to be one hell of a party!

 

*trollface gif*

I can see it now.

 

All quiet on the green as xXpoonpounderXx attempts to make this birdie...

 

*BOOM BOOM*

 

Scottish Guy atomized xXpoonpounderXx

Scottish Guy blew up iiSnipez

Scottish Guy f*cked up Mike Hawk

 

 

 

 

But yeah, there are some pretty good ideas in here to balance it out more, and give us "heli-fags" more of a challenge.

Edited May 30, 2013 by The Scottish Guy

[Stephan90]

they are in the game, trust me.