Is V taking notes from Saints Row?

[Lucky32]

I got Saints Row III about 4 weeks ago. I'd been playing for a while when i noticed a few things. Quite a bit of things that were set to be in V, saints row already had. Heres a list of things thats been confirmed for V, but Saints Row III already had. (Back in 2011 mind you.)

 

• Taunts, or 'flipping people off' to get different reactions.
• Pedestrians filming videos of you, be it beating people or shooting a cop.
• Car handling is more 'arcadish'. Cars hold better to the ground.

Now, i'm not accusing R* of taking ideas, after all, Saints Row was pretty much a GTA clone in the first place. I just thought it was wierd R* would confirm this stuff, as Saints Row had already done it. Now, i like GTA more than saints row, thats a fact. I'm not trying to get reactions, or 12-year olds typing in caps lock "LOL NU U N00B SANTS R0W IS DUM". What do you think, did they take a page for Saints Row?

[Aqsin]

No way...

[GTAaLEX117]

*Car handling is more 'arcadish'. Cars hold better to the ground.

 

Please tell me this is a joke...

[bluetops]

No. I don't know. I don't think so. I think they're taking a page from their own book. Flipping people is like RDR, except the one in RDR is saying 'howdy'. They just reversed it, since GTA is more rude. More disrespectful. And, I forgot. We also got farting and burping in GTA 2.

 

Pedestrians filming videos. That's taken from popular culture. That doesn't mean they took it from Saints Row because Saints Row basically took it from real life. It doesn't mean that GTA copied Saints Row. Plus it's a little detail.

 

'Arcadish' handling. Play Midnight Club Plus we don't know if GTA V has actually arcadish handling. They just said that it handled better than GTA IV.

 

And seeing the trailer for Saints Row IV, I'm gonna say they better take a page from R*'s book.

Edited May 28, 2013 by bluetops

[GlitzyTomb]

Flipping off has been in the series, it just hasn't been something you controlled

 

Pedestrians filming videos is new, yeah.

 

Car handling being "arcadish" has nothing to do with GTAV controlling better

 

 

 

You're really reaching here. Each of these is logical progressions.

 

If GTAV had purple oddly shaped bats and exploding rounds and all the stupid gimmicky crap Saints Row has...maybe then you would have a point.

[Lucky32]

 

No. I don't know. I don't think so. I think they're taking a page from their own book. Flipping people is like RDR, except the one in RDR is saying 'howdy'. They just reversed it, since GTA is more rude. More disrespectful.

 

Pedestrians filming videos. That's taken from popular culture. That doesn't mean they took it from Saints Row because Saints Row basically took it from real life. It doesn't mean that GTA copied Saints Row. Plus it's a little detail.

 

'Arcadish' handling. Play Midnight Club Plus we don't know if GTA V has actually arcadish handling. They just said that it handled better than GTA IV.

They claimed, and this is a direct quote:

 

 

The cars in V will be less big and boatlike.

 

I understand fixing something from an earlier game doesn't mean they're stealing ideas, but still.

[MikeyBelic]

The lot of you wake up. They will have taken something minor they've probably seen in the SR games and edited it and crafted into one of there own babies, all companies do this. SR had potential but they f*ck it up everytime.

[bluetops]

 

 

The cars in V will be less big and boatlike.

 

 

I don't see the word 'arcadish'. Not literally nor implied.

 

But anyway. I just hope they won't go too far with the driving.

Edited May 28, 2013 by bluetops

[GTAaLEX117]

They claimed, and this is a direct quote:

 

The cars in V will be less big and boatlike.

I understand fixing something from an earlier game doesn't mean they're stealing ideas, but still.

You realize the ps2 era GTA games all had arcade driving? Same for MCLA, another R* game.

It's exactly what it sounds like, fixing something that they were aware of.

Considering the millions of games on the market with arcade driving and the fact that SR is definitely not well known because of it's arcade driving, this is nothing but a coincidence.

[quechus13]

Saints Row is no longer something to compare to GTA.

 

Have you seen the fourth one yet?

[GlitzyTomb]

I agree with that.

 

Saints Row 1 and Saints Row 2? Yeah they could be competitors. They weren't equals but they could have at least gotten closer.

 

Once Saints Row 3 hit though?

 

Game Over.

 

 

 

 

Now you've got a game 4 years in the making with a brand new environment going against a game that's been in development a maximum of 2 years, based on a DLC, and using the same environment as the previous game

 

It's no competition.

 

Doesn't even deserve mention in the same sentence

[Vortexz0r]

All game developers take notes from eachother get over it!

I dont know if they took notes from SR but i dont really care because this topic will lead to a fanboy-war lol

[d3ex2]

Nah, you're wrong.

 

• taunts - are f*cking stupid in Saint's Row. There are various taunts but we've only hear of 1 for GTA V. It'll probably be taken out the game but if not...it doesn't mean Rockstar copied SR.

• peds filming - this is 2013...loads of people have smartphones and feel the need to whip it out to film/take photos of every stupid little thing that happens. Rockstar will mock this in their usual classic humour.

• driving - where did it say GTA V was more arcade-ish? They've just improved it to make them feel more realistic. Driving in SR is horrible.

[BoyzNGroveStreet]

It seems R* have taken inspiration from a few movies & games, so i wouldnt be suprised if they did with SR3.

 

Wasnt it also confirmed the first mission was a heist? just like SR3? I guess R* saw the SR3 & GTA IV first mission comparisons lol

[Darkgamr]

In IV they straight up stole the GPS directions from Saint's Row but none of these are what I would consider stolen. In saint's row none of these things had any purpose, in V pedestrians with phones will actually alert the cops, flipping off isn't exactly new and the different handling might be somewhat like saint's row but will likely have no similarities whatsoever. No one who doesn't work for Rockstar has even handled the new cars anyway.

[Chris Fromage]

Maybe not from SR, but I am sure R* saw something in other games what they really liked, changed it a bit and placed it in GTA V.

[United_Stealth]

If anyone thinks they didn't look at SR for some ideas/inspiration/features are fooling themselves.

[.kiwi_4]

Well, GTA V has a couple of similarities e.g melee weapons like sledgehammers. Also, from what we've heard, the garage system will most likely resemble Saints Row's.

However, if it's from Saints Row, it's not stealing, it's showing them how to do it right!

[GTAaLEX117]

Well, GTA V has a couple of similarities e.g melee weapons like sledgehammers. Also, from what we've heard, the garage system will most likely resemble Saints Row's.

However, if it's from Saints Row, it's not stealing, it's showing them how to do it right!

Didn't Vice City have a hammer?

I read somewhere that IV was supposed to have a sledgehammer but it was cut.

[Algonquin Assassin]

It doesn't look like sh*t dipped in glitter so no.

[gta5freemode4eva]

Lol - If you guys out there compare GTA to Saints Row then you have no idea about quality. Saints Row is a kids game, if you wanna piss with the big boys come play GTA.

[B_Live]

They might have taken an idea or two but considering the the fact that every Saints Row game is basically a GTA ripoff i think Rockstar have the right to 'borrow' a few ideas.

[Don_Corleone]

It doesn't look like sh*t dipped in glitter so no.

[Sean5]

I don't think they are, if anything Saints row ripped off GTA, then made it go over the top for their ~12 year old fanbase.

Of course, this is a GTA forum, and anything you say against GTA is practically blasphemy. Same as if you went on the SR forums (I doubt there is one, what could they talk about? Big floppy sex toys?) they'd be biased towards SR.

[MosquitoSmasher]

It doesn't look like sh*t dipped in glitter so no.

Hahahah THIS SO MUCH!!!

 

Cars hold better to the ground? Well if 'horribly sh*tty driving, boring me to hell' is also called 'Cars hold better to the ground' then i hope that's not in GTA V.

 

Seriously though. The driving will be like GTA IV, i'd bet money on it that there's still weight to these cars and that the handling is just a bit better. It could actually be perfect now.

[AZAZEL]

*Car handling is more 'arcadish'. Cars hold better to the ground.

 

Please tell me this is a joke...

No matter what changes they make to the car handling, I very much doubt they would be able to make it as terrible as it is in the Saints Row games, even if they wanted to. Worst driving physics ever.

 

This is what was said about the driving in that GI preview last year:

 

 

"The cars hold to the ground a bit better. We thought they were big and boatlike in GTA IV, and we feel like it has really leaped forward because we're able to run a little more physics on them. It feels more like a racing game. There are not a lot of high-level racing games out there at the moment, and that itch is going to be scratched by this game in a way maybe it hasn't been in previous GTAs."

That's not exactly the recipe for 'arcadish' driving physics - rather the opposite. Not sure where you got that impression?

[Raavi]

 

Car handling is more 'arcadish'. Cars hold better to the ground.

 

So you've played the game? This is utter cockamamy. GTA is anything but arcade-ish.

[BeardedxMic]

I agree with that.

 

Saints Row 1 and Saints Row 2? Yeah they could be competitors. They weren't equals but they could have at least gotten closer.

 

Once Saints Row 3 hit though?

 

Game Over.

 

 

 

 

Now you've got a game 4 years in the making with a brand new environment going against a game that's been in development a maximum of 2 years, based on a DLC, and using the same environment as the previous game

 

It's no competition.

 

Doesn't even deserve mention in the same sentence

You get two.

[FranticFatality]

Lol - If you guys out there compare GTA to Saints Row then you have no idea about quality. Saints Row is a kids game, if you wanna piss with the big boys come play GTA.

Saints Row 2 is way better than most GTA games.

[ClaudeSpeed1911]

No. I don't know. I don't think so. I think they're taking a page from their own book. Flipping people is like RDR, except the one in RDR is saying 'howdy'. They just reversed it, since GTA is more rude. More disrespectful.

 

 

Actually if you had low honor then John would start to taunt people.