Grove Street

[Capricornus]

Why is it impossible for GSF to be in GTA V???

 

Serious question. 

People tend to believe that an entire gang = one character, so in their little minds, it would not make much sense for GSF to be in. V Section logic man it never gets old.

I have never seen anyone referring to GSF as one character, it is a group of characters, ones that were important to SA's story, even if only a few of them were given names. (please let's not turn this into a flamewar)

What I meant was, because it surrounds CJ, people think its impossible for the GSF to be in GTA V...

[Lil_B_The Basedgod]

With Grove Street Families returning hows it gonna work.Cj or Sweet or the Johnson family have to be mentioned.They're the ones who made it so..........

NO CHARACTERS FROM THE III ERA ARE RETURNING!!! ALL YOU POCKET "GANGSTAS" NEED TO STOP JERKING OFF THINKING ABOUT GROVE STREET! JUST BECAUSE WE SEE CERTAIN COLORS DOES NOT MEAN THE FAMILIES AND BALLAS ARE BACK!!! LET IT GO DAMMIT!!

 

P.S. - I also like crispy french fries, with white gravy

Families and ballas are in gta V. Not the same ones.from the 3 era.though. Wont be no grove set.

Proof. Show me proof right f*ckin NOW.

 

And I do not want to hear "HEZ WARNG GR33N!!!11!!! HEZ MYST BEE GR0V STR3T !!1!! THYT GYZ WARNG PYRPL!!!11!! HEZ TOTLY BALLAZZZ!!!1!!"

 

Show me where Rockstar has CONFIRMED that the GROVE STREET FAMILIES and the BALLAS are going to be in V.

 

Will there be gangs in V that have green or purple for thier colors? Yes. Will they be Grove street or Ballas? WE DONT KNOW.

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/grand_th...eft-auto-v.aspx

 

'Gangland' section

Look yourself next time.

 

"Rockstar has confirmed that the Ballas are still going strong."

 

Ok thats proof for the Ballas

But is it though? There was an Spanish article that said the SWAT was "very confirmed" to be in the game, and it's very doubtful R* would go with a non-parody name after we already have the NOoSE, FIB and IAA. And it seems weird they'd just say Ballas and not say anything else about other gangs and it's also the only article that mentions Ballas, so I'd take this with a grain of salt.

 

But if it does turn out Ballas are confirmed to be in the game, I think it's safe to assume Families are as well.

SWAT IS very confirmed. You apparently think "SWAT" is a proper noun, its not. Its a generic discriptor for a TYPE of police unit.

I don't see how that's a reason to miss an opportunity of creating another parody, maybe that generic descriptor is something else in the GTA universe? Something more fitting?

Actually, in gta iv the SWAT teams are called N.O.O.S.E. and that is NOT the only article to confirm ballas. Its been pretty clear in other articles I.e. the latest GI

[loony979]

 

1.Franklin may tell the story of how the Johnsons made history for grove street By teaching his fellow grove street gang members . Who knows - how are we going to know this ?

 

2.CJ may be in the game as some 1 you work for ( a Franklin ) mission ? that would be cool

& his brother .

 

I seriously don't know ,nor does any 1 in this forum .

They won't even mention JOHNSON FAMILY AT ALL TEHY DONT EXIST IN THIS ERA. if GSF i sback its just gonna be a new leader who was "always their" if they even mentioned CJ/Sweet that means they are still alive,we will only see this in graffiti on the walls and easter eggs and sh*t like that.

No need to scream ,i was just stating the - If it could

I also don't think it would be .Also have in mind that Mutiplayer we can be Niko if we wanted

& as GTA.NET has confirmed . It may be interesting to see if we can play as other main characters from other leading GTA games ...

 

P.S. i wasn't trying to push the idea out ,but more of having a thought to share .

& in my original post i did say: I seriously don't know ,nor does any 1

[_L1pE_]

With Grove Street Families returning hows it gonna work.Cj or Sweet or the Johnson family have to be mentioned.They're the ones who made it so..........

NO CHARACTERS FROM THE III ERA ARE RETURNING!!! ALL YOU POCKET "GANGSTAS" NEED TO STOP JERKING OFF THINKING ABOUT GROVE STREET! JUST BECAUSE WE SEE CERTAIN COLORS DOES NOT MEAN THE FAMILIES AND BALLAS ARE BACK!!! LET IT GO DAMMIT!!

 

P.S. - I also like crispy french fries, with white gravy

Families and ballas are in gta V. Not the same ones.from the 3 era.though. Wont be no grove set.

Proof. Show me proof right f*ckin NOW.

 

And I do not want to hear "HEZ WARNG GR33N!!!11!!! HEZ MYST BEE GR0V STR3T !!1!! THYT GYZ WARNG PYRPL!!!11!! HEZ TOTLY BALLAZZZ!!!1!!"

 

Show me where Rockstar has CONFIRMED that the GROVE STREET FAMILIES and the BALLAS are going to be in V.

 

Will there be gangs in V that have green or purple for thier colors? Yes. Will they be Grove street or Ballas? WE DONT KNOW.

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/grand_th...eft-auto-v.aspx

 

'Gangland' section

Look yourself next time.

 

"Rockstar has confirmed that the Ballas are still going strong."

 

Ok thats proof for the Ballas

But is it though? There was an Spanish article that said the SWAT was "very confirmed" to be in the game, and it's very doubtful R* would go with a non-parody name after we already have the NOoSE, FIB and IAA. And it seems weird they'd just say Ballas and not say anything else about other gangs and it's also the only article that mentions Ballas, so I'd take this with a grain of salt.

 

But if it does turn out Ballas are confirmed to be in the game, I think it's safe to assume Families are as well.

SWAT IS very confirmed. You apparently think "SWAT" is a proper noun, its not. Its a generic discriptor for a TYPE of police unit.

I don't see how that's a reason to miss an opportunity of creating another parody, maybe that generic descriptor is something else in the GTA universe? Something more fitting?

Actually, in gta iv the SWAT teams are called N.O.O.S.E. and that is NOT the only article to confirm ballas. Its been pretty clear in other articles I.e. the latest GI

The NOoSE (National Office of Security Enforcement) is actually a parody of the US Department of Homeland Security and it replaced both SWAT and the military ( http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/Noose ), they didn't have a parody of SWAT in IV, which I thought was a really weird decision, they could have had a SWAT-parody come at 4 stars and NOoSE at 6, but whatever. Also, the article mentioned IS the latest GI, and I haven't seen any other article mention Ballas besides that one, if you have seen them, could you link me to them?

[ThatOneDork]

This thread is a mess for a few reasons.

 

The first reason is some people don't understand that Grove Street is a smaller set within the Families gang. So if you were to talk about the gang wars that occurred in San Andreas overall, you would be talking about the Families vs. the Ballas; as opposed to Grove Street vs. the Ballas.

 

The second reason is that people are trying to use too much common sense to reach their personal verdict. Since some have spotted Grove Street graffiti, they automatically assume the Grove Street set of the Families still runs strong. This does make sense to some degree, because anybody would see this and assume that they have a presence within the game, but the graffiti could be just subtle nods to the Grove Street set and just that. After all, if it were that GTA V made sense, there would virtually be no Ballas gang in the game; considering the Families broke them down throughout GTA SA. But they're back and seem to be running strong, so it could go any way they want it to.

 

 

My personal thought is that Grove Street is a retired set that is now forgotten, but still mentioned in various graffiti murals and tags around Los Santos. I believe that is how CJ will be mentioned within this era, by dedications on the walls and around the city and nothing else. It doesn't make much sense for R* to totally rewrite their background by saying someone else controlled the Grove Street set, and it doesn't make much sense for CJ to be in GTA V based on what he came to be at the end of SA. Franklin is affiliated with the Families, but not to the Grove Street set specifically.

[BlackNoise]

Why is it impossible for GSF to be in GTA V???

 

Serious question. 

People tend to believe that an entire gang = one character, so in their little minds, it would not make much sense for GSF to be in. V Section logic man it never gets old.

I have never seen anyone referring to GSF as one character, it is a group of characters, ones that were important to SA's story, even if only a few of them were given names. (please let's not turn this into a flamewar)

What I meant was, because it surrounds CJ, people think its impossible for the GSF to be in GTA V...

Yeah, I'm thinking this.

 

I think people forget GSF was the start of the Families. The other sets broke off from GSF. I'm thinking since we see "Grove" in the trailer, it's possible there's an actual Grove st in GTA V.

 

GSF came before CJ and the events in SA, and it's much bigger than the characters/events in that game. On that level, I honestly don't see what makes it any different from "Vinewood" or anything else that carried over.

[ChrisMathers3501]

The main annoying thing about these topics isn't just the fact that they are repeat topics, but its these fake ass wannabee R* representatives and spokespersons that keep running around here with the whole "different universe" crap. However, I understand that the wannabees constantly throw that around because of the repeat topics.

 

While there names specifically don't have to be mentioned, Lamar or Franklin could say something like "Back in the early 90s, 2 brothers started this sh*t, and it never stop growing" or something to that affect. I don't think its that far-fetched. People are only hooked on to this whole universal crap because it came from R*, stating the obvious.

Hey, people are just trying to be informative, like it or not, the different universe bullsh*t was made by R*, I also think it is stupid and that they should've found an alternative, like saying the cities just grew a lot very quick over the years and the events of past games just not being 100% accurate if they wanted everything to be more believable instead of saying the past games never existed in the newer games universe, but oh well, they didn't, so we gotta deal with it.

THANK YOU!

 

God, I mean, I love GTAIV, EFLC and Chinatown Wars as much as the next guy but I was beginning to think I was the only one who realized just how GODAWFULLY RETARDED it was to just write off everything from the older games. It doesn't "liberate" or "free up" the writers to "explore new material," they were already going to have to do that sh*t anyway! All that it DOES do is restrict them whenever they want to bring back a fan favorite from yesteryear to make us feel at home again.

[FutoDriver]

 

 

How do we know GTA III characters aren't returning? Did you never look at Roman's apartment wall?

 

[_L1pE_]

 

How do we know GTA III characters aren't returning? Did you never look at Roman's apartment wall?

 

That is just an easter egg referencing old protagonists that will never return (hence the "RIP"s on that graffiti), just like the OG Loc cd and Fido's clothes in GTA IV.

 

To ThatOneDork, I hate to sound like a broken record but it seems some people still don't get it, time has nothing to do with this, R* stated that there are multiple GTA universes, 2D, 3D and HD, 3D is GTA III up to GTA VCS, HD is GTA IV onwards, the events of the 3D universe never happened in the HD universe, and we'll most likely never have a 3D universe gta game again as the HD universe has effectively replaced it (even Chinatown Wars which isn't HD by any sense of the word follows the HD universe), the 1992 events of GTA San Andreas never happened in 1992 of GTA V, CJ and anyone else from that game never existed, the only things that can pass universes are brands, city names and unimportant background characters like radio DJs. I know this is stupid but it's the way R* decided to do it, another reason I hate it is because it's annoying how there's always someone who still doesn't get it (not blaming you ThatOneDork, R* is at fault for this bullsh*t since this information isn't obvious to anyone just plays the games).

 

To Chris, yeah, but I think they were justified in dumping the 2D games since those are way too different, not very defined and with their time lines it just wouldn't work, but they still could have made it work with the 3D games.

[greenrock]

For crying out loud

 

R* said their are 2 different universes

 

the GTA 3 Universe, and the HD universe..

 

2 completely different timelines, continuities

 

 

I don't get how people can't understand it, and process it through their brains...

 

its not that hard to understand

[FutoDriver]

 

That is just an easter egg referencing old protagonists that will never return (hence the "RIP"s on that graffiti), just like the OG Loc cd and Fido's clothes in GTA IV.

 

 

 

Correct, which is why I posted it for OP and others. Old characters in physical form won't return. Granted, I probably should of made that point clearer (doh!)

[Chukkles]

For crying out loud

 

R* said their are 2 different universes

 

the GTA 3 Universe, and the HD universe..

 

2 completely different timelines, continuities

 

 

I don't get how people can't understand it, and process it through their brains...

 

its not that hard to understand

R* say a lot of things that aren't true.

[AuSsIeThUnDeR36]

I understand the whole IV universe vs III era stuff I'm just saying the closest we will get to see of Grove St is easter eggs or maybe even a statue of CJ in a park, maybe cemetary or something.