dontdieb4september Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Because a GTA female character wouldn't really fit. Do you see women robbing banks in films, hijacking cars and killing everyone on the street? It's not like a woman to do that, because most violent stuff like that in films have been done by men, and now everyone believes it. have you heard of a movie called spring breakers.if not watch it. Howard the duck could play guitar, Didnt make it real. ?????????<<(Wa wa WHAT=//**~)> >>]} ? Spring Breakers making women look tough doesnt make it realistic. They arent, They dont rule the streets. They arent the head of the Mafia or any organised crime. They are rarely mass murderers or experienced life criminals.. They wouldnt be able to intimidate men during a fight.. Saying they did in a film means jack sh*t. Exactly like Howard the duck, An alien duck who came to earth to rock hard with his guitar.. but sure as sh*t isnt realistic. w3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkybub Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 There's a few female involved with the cartels. I think one of the leader or a high member of a cartel was a girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaver guy Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Because a GTA female character wouldn't really fit. Do you see women robbing banks in films, hijacking cars and killing everyone on the street? It's not like a woman to do that, because most violent stuff like that in films have been done by men, and now everyone believes it. have you heard of a movie called spring breakers.if not watch it. Howard the duck could play guitar, Didnt make it real. ?????????<<(Wa wa WHAT=//**~)> >>]} ? Spring Breakers making women look tough doesnt make it realistic. They arent, They dont rule the streets. They arent the head of the Mafia or any organised crime. They are rarely mass murderers or experienced life criminals.. They wouldnt be able to intimidate men during a fight.. Saying they did in a film means jack sh*t. Exactly like Howard the duck, An alien duck who came to earth to rock hard with his guitar.. but sure as sh*t isnt realistic. w3rd oh sh*t. you never been out to much have you. girls get upto all sorts of chaotic mischief these days. they will come in there fwd cars and hunt you down. just now i saw one doing a kick on another girl and its a deadly kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdieb4september Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 There's a few female involved with the cartels. I think one of the leader or a high member of a cartel was a girl Its very much a rarity, No doubt there has been well known female criminals in the past.. Maybe she can sit by the pool and order hits every week while shopping for shoes on ebay .. that would be amazing gameplay. zzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdieb4september Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Because a GTA female character wouldn't really fit. Do you see women robbing banks in films, hijacking cars and killing everyone on the street? It's not like a woman to do that, because most violent stuff like that in films have been done by men, and now everyone believes it. have you heard of a movie called spring breakers.if not watch it. Howard the duck could play guitar, Didnt make it real. ?????????<<(Wa wa WHAT=//**~)> >>]} ? Spring Breakers making women look tough doesnt make it realistic. They arent, They dont rule the streets. They arent the head of the Mafia or any organised crime. They are rarely mass murderers or experienced life criminals.. They wouldnt be able to intimidate men during a fight.. Saying they did in a film means jack sh*t. Exactly like Howard the duck, An alien duck who came to earth to rock hard with his guitar.. but sure as sh*t isnt realistic. w3rd oh sh*t. you never been out to much have you. girls get upto all sorts of chaotic mischief these days. they will come in there fwd cars and hunt you down. just now i saw one doing a kick on another girl and its a deadly kick. Holy sh*t you saw a girl kick another girl, quick call the daily mail.. this is crazy.. women gangs are taking over. What the f*ck are you 12? Did they pull each others hair too?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringerofblood2000 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 OP has a vagina between the legs, no male would complained about NOT having a female protagonist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaver guy Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Because a GTA female character wouldn't really fit. Do you see women robbing banks in films, hijacking cars and killing everyone on the street? It's not like a woman to do that, because most violent stuff like that in films have been done by men, and now everyone believes it. have you heard of a movie called spring breakers.if not watch it. Howard the duck could play guitar, Didnt make it real. ?????????<<(Wa wa WHAT=//**~)> >>]} ? Spring Breakers making women look tough doesnt make it realistic. They arent, They dont rule the streets. They arent the head of the Mafia or any organised crime. They are rarely mass murderers or experienced life criminals.. They wouldnt be able to intimidate men during a fight.. Saying they did in a film means jack sh*t. Exactly like Howard the duck, An alien duck who came to earth to rock hard with his guitar.. but sure as sh*t isnt realistic. w3rd oh sh*t. you never been out to much have you. girls get upto all sorts of chaotic mischief these days. they will come in there fwd cars and hunt you down. just now i saw one doing a kick on another girl and its a deadly kick. Holy sh*t you saw a girl kick another girl, quick call the daily mail.. this is crazy.. women gangs are taking over. What the f*ck are you 12? Did they pull each others hair too?? what you doing in the girls toilets. taking a secret sh*t or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral_City Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 This thread is a whole load of sh*t. The sexism on here is f*cking nuts... why the mods haven't locked it is beyond me. Seriously, 90% of you dickwads need a class on sexism 101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandthefthoughto Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Enedina Arellano Félix de Toledo (born April 12, 1961)[1] is a female Mexican drug lord who leads the criminal organization known as the Tijuana Cartel along with her son Luis Fernando Sánchez Arellano. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enedina_Arellano_F%C3%A9lix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdieb4september Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) This thread is a whole load of sh*t. The sexism on here is f*cking nuts... why the mods haven't locked it is beyond me. Seriously, 90% of you dickwads need a class on sexism 101. Probably because nobody gives a f*ck about the whiney ass feminist agenda on a grand theft auto forum. Boohoo its sexist to say girls in general aren't strong.. Its true get over it. Its sexist to say women are not at the top of the food chain in the criminal world boohoo its true get over it. Either you are a girl or one of these nu age modern day pussywhipped guys who cant take a piss without his gf holding onto his tiny pecker and saying he is allowed to. Grow a pair. "Enedina Arellano Félix de Toledo ince most of her brothers are now either arrested or killed, Enedina has managed the financial aspect of the organization" so she works in admin or like an accountant... case closed. Edited May 21, 2013 by dontdieb4september Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysRight Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 V didn't include multiple protags so they could expand their diversity appeal. They included multiple characters for a new level of immersion into the story, introduce a variety in personalities, replay-value, etc. Therefore, the fact that there are 3 characters is irrelevant on the subject matter of diversity in gender. In general, GTA accurately depicts the criminal landscape of the United States by not having female protagonists. If this was about the Latin American cartels and what not, then maybe it would be a different story. Even then, Latin American cartels have only a sprinkling of prominent female crime bosses. Females seldom become career criminals outside of the realm of white-collar crime. This is especially the case with organized crime. Maybe eventually we'll see one though. I... I'm sorry but I never heard more misinformed BS, while trying to sound articulate in my life. While I can agree with some of the themes of your post, you are clearly misinformed. Just because we don't hear much about women in the United States committing violent and heinous acts all that often, that doesn't mean its the stuff movie legend and feminist fantasy. As some one already posted here in this thread, look up Aileen Wurnos and come back again with this type of argument. Besides that, your not so subtle suggestion that violent females boil down to simply the crazy latina, has to be the biggest logic hole I have ever heard of when discussing women and violence. Not only is it ludicrous but also slightly racist. Also, while the trend may be that females tend to be less likely to venture outside of white collar crimes, they have happened. There was actually a study referenced in A&E's special on Aileen Wurnos just before the biopic, 'Monster', had released which more or less alluded to women being more prone to crimes of passion than men in that they lead a lot of times with their emotions and can be unpredictable. Just like, dare I say... Trevor? So honestly, before you jump on here trying to protect your pseudo male power fantasy while under the guise of sounding well-read, why don't you do some research? @ TheNewBlueGuy You are talking some serious bullsh*t. Canttakemyid did not say that females do not commit very violent and heinous crimes. He's just saying that they are less prone to doing so on a regular basis, especially within the context of organized crime, especially in the United States. It's very rare to hear of women in the States getting heavily involved in gangs/organized crime and rising to such high ranking positions within gangs/organized crime. Yes there are female gang members, but most of the time they are just affiliated or they only play a peripheral part of the gang's activities. He also cited Latina women as an example for the few cases of very violent female gangsters, because that is really all there is to look to. Griselda Blanco, the now deceased former Colombian drug baroness is probably the only female crime boss that reach to such a high level of notoriety and power in the USA in modern times. There have also been smaller instances of women in Hispanic drug cartels having some degree of control. It is not that common to see this among African-American and Caucasian women, hence why he referred to Latinas. It's not racist, it's what it is as the facts show. And look at the woman you brought up to prove your point, you've lost your way already. Aileen Wurnos is a serial killer and not a gangster or drug dealer. The subject is about females in organized crime, not female serial killers. Sorry, that is a bullsh*t example. We know some females can turn crazy in an instant in certain situations and become cold-blooded killers, but that is not the argument here and we don't need you to tell us this. Females are highly unlikely to be career criminals, especially in the form of a gangster - you just don't really hear often of female enforcers, hitwomen, drug cartel bosses, mafia bosses, it's just not common, it's very rare. So please, stop talking so much rubbish. I never said that he said they don't commit those crimes. I said he was misinformed as to how often they happen. Also, I'd argue that the rarity of such a case is irrelevant. The norm tends to be in mass media that if it doesn't happen often enough to a certain, then it more or less never happens. The thing is, even one instance of inspiration is enough. I'd also like to note that the reason I specifically mentioned Aileen Wurnos or in my case being Canadian, Karla Hamolka, was simply to illustrate that violent females can and do exist to the extremes of a Catalina, Elizabetha or even Trevor level of real life intensity. I made no claim whatsoever about females in organized crime especially because I don't believe GTA has really even focused on organized crime since GTA3 and even as heavy an influence as it was on previous games, it was still only a part of the story and could have absolutely nothing to do with shaping such a character. Also, while you may be correct in regards to Latin women being more prominent in organized crime, my point still stands that violent females are everywhere, of every colour, creed or class. So while I didn't call cant a full blown racist, I still standby that he's stereotyping heavily. A large part of the problem with a majority of GTA fans, is their disdain for lack of change. First it was, resistance to playing as anyone that didn't look like an extra from the Godfather, and now this. Simply put, violence is everywhere and can effect anyone so I really don't see the harm or controversy in illustrating another side of that other than "true" GTA fans being thrown for a loop. I mean joking or not, look at the types of comments in these threads. It's sadder when you realize that behind the crude remarks of a keyboard warrior jokingly defending his pastime, there are some of these guys that actually buy into this mentality that's keeps gaming as a whole where it is. I like how you ignored my comment knowing how f*cking retarded it made your whole sh*tty little thread look, not only that but you continued comparing Trevor an ex Vietnam war vet to ex prostitutes and rape victims with guns gone wild, its like you're living in another galaxy full of feminists and feminized soft boys devoid of all logic, you need to check in at your local crazy facility for some rehab, you got issues bro, it, she, whatever you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaver guy Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) no female protag cause they wont focus on game instead on her ass an tits and her special ability is to become a sex machine. Edited May 21, 2013 by beaver guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody112 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 This thread is a whole load of sh*t. The sexism on here is f*cking nuts... why the mods haven't locked it is beyond me. Seriously, 90% of you dickwads need a class on sexism 101. So, we should take a class on being sexist? Nah, I'm already set in those regards. OT: It's not impossible, but I just can't imagine a female doing the things that a GTA protagonist does on a regular basis. That's not to say women aren't involved in organized crime, but I would imagine most of them tend to be in a behind-the-scenes, calling the shots kind of role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral_City Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 This thread is a whole load of sh*t. The sexism on here is f*cking nuts... why the mods haven't locked it is beyond me. Seriously, 90% of you dickwads need a class on sexism 101. So, we should take a class on being sexist? Nah, I'm already set in those regards. OT: It's not impossible, but I just can't imagine a female doing the things that a GTA protagonist does on a regular basis. That's not to say women aren't involved in organized crime, but I would imagine most of them tend to be in a behind-the-scenes, calling the shots kind of role. LOL, SO FUNNY, HAHAHAHHAHA. Man, some of the dummies on this board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaver guy Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 This thread is a whole load of sh*t. The sexism on here is f*cking nuts... why the mods haven't locked it is beyond me. Seriously, 90% of you dickwads need a class on sexism 101. So, we should take a class on being sexist? Nah, I'm already set in those regards. OT: It's not impossible, but I just can't imagine a female doing the things that a GTA protagonist does on a regular basis. That's not to say women aren't involved in organized crime, but I would imagine most of them tend to be in a behind-the-scenes, calling the shots kind of role. LOL, SO FUNNY, HAHAHAHHAHA. Man, some of the dummies on this board... wats wrong with the post. pls dont call people dummies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdieb4september Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 This thread is a whole load of sh*t. The sexism on here is f*cking nuts... why the mods haven't locked it is beyond me. Seriously, 90% of you dickwads need a class on sexism 101. So, we should take a class on being sexist? Nah, I'm already set in those regards. OT: It's not impossible, but I just can't imagine a female doing the things that a GTA protagonist does on a regular basis. That's not to say women aren't involved in organized crime, but I would imagine most of them tend to be in a behind-the-scenes, calling the shots kind of role. Behind the scenes sucking dick for money, Why would they use guns or be involved in organized crime. They got other ways to make money. That should piss off the whiney feminist^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaver guy Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 i think latinas are hot and bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
florisinfernus Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Am I wrong for thinking this? You have your opinion and I have mine but I do need to ask why do you care what sex the protagonists are? Personally I'm fine with any sex. I hope the protagonist has lots of sex! Oh sh*t I misunderstood that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A320 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I need feminism because I shouldn't be forced to play with three male characters when one could clearly be a womyn because womyn are independent and can do anything Trevor can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kesta195 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Do cool female criminals exist outside of movies? Na sexism aside it just wouldn't work. People would see it as a gimmick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdieb4september Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I need feminism because I shouldn't be forced to play with three male characters when one could clearly be a womyn because womyn are independent and can do anything Trevor can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reform Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 sexism aside it just wouldn't work. People would see it as a gimmick. And the current three protags aren't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Asking for a female GTA protagonist would be the equivalent of asking for a male Tomb Raider protagonist. A female's protagonist story would most likely be about overcoming her hardships in a mostly macho universe and affiliated stereotypes. While GTA should go the opposite way and embrace its stereotypes to the fullest. Well said man. RUBBΣR░J♢HNNY (スオッ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Frenzy! Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Why do I want a female as protagonist? Females are useless and sluts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaver guy Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 she needs to be a hot latina. if shes like elizibeta then i take her to mount chiliad and jump off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdieb4september Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 she needs to be a hot latina. if shes like elizibeta then i take her to mount chiliad and jump off How can be she hot man its a f*cking pixel.. What are you smoking tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reform Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 she needs to be a hot latina. if shes like elizibeta then i take her to mount chiliad and jump off How can be she hot man its a f*cking pixel.. What are you smoking tonight? So nothing can be hot unless you're seeing it in front of you in real life? Because even images of real things on your screen are made up of pixels too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaver guy Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 she needs to be a hot latina. if shes like elizibeta then i take her to mount chiliad and jump off How can be she hot man its a f*cking pixel.. What are you smoking tonight? So nothing can be hot unless you're seeing it in front of you in real life? Because even images of real things on your screen are made up of pixels too. he's right.a latina girl in real life is too hot. michelle in gta 4 looked like a robot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reform Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 she needs to be a hot latina. if shes like elizibeta then i take her to mount chiliad and jump off How can be she hot man its a f*cking pixel.. What are you smoking tonight? So nothing can be hot unless you're seeing it in front of you in real life? Because even images of real things on your screen are made up of pixels too. he's right.a latina girl in real life is too hot. michelle in gta 4 looked like a robot. Michelle in real life would have looked fugly anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v17 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 As if someone noticed this as though it was a thing... I'm so sick of all this sexist crap. Girls, get over yourselves. Nobody thinks your the lesser gender. Stfu. Guys, don't be so insecure... I never even thought about the whole staring at a male ass all the time. The fact that you even noticed that or gave it thought shows your insecurity. What the f*ck has happened to the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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