GTA-King Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 26:13 "He was a man who was used. Used certainly by the FBI to build their reputation..." Maybe this is what the FIB is doing to Michael? Using him to build their reputation. I mean, maybe that's what the kidnapping mission is all about? Maybe the FIB will actually help Michael with his heists. He scratches their back, they scratch his. Although, I can really see them hating Trevor. That could complicate things. So what do you guys think Michael's relationship to the FIB is going to be like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omer19992010 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 The FIB will Probably be Like Mike Toreno from San Andreas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZerrickiShadow Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Michael will most likely be bitter towards the FIB. I just don't see him enjoying being under the watchful eye of the feds, he wants to be free and in control of his own life. What exactly do you mean by helping him with his heists? Sounds a little far fetched, I don't see the Feds helping him out with his crimes, maybe a few corrupt FIB agents but that would be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) The FIB will Probably be Like Mike Toreno from San Andreas. That would be awesome! Toreno was a great character. @ZerrickiShadow: Hmmm. Well, we know Michael is miserable. Maybe after years of being watched, he cuts a deal with them saying that he will help them with certain things (like the kidnapping mission). This could fuel his lust for adrenaline, and he will want more. Eventually he will start constructing heists behind their back. I don't know. I have a strong feeling they are going to be a big part of the story though... at least for Michael. Remember the 2 corrupt agents in the leaked casting call? Edited May 19, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracksuit Hitman Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 The FIB will Probably be Like Mike Toreno from San Andreas. That would be awesome! Toreno was a great character. Toreno was a snake. aka geobst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogy Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Well when his FIB contact finds out he's been involved in heists it certainly will complicate things. Every robber has a signature in style. I think it will not take long before the FIB sees the pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kesta195 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Just like John Marston was used by the FBI in their early days. I think they will serve as the main antagonistic force in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogy Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Just like John Marston was used by the FBI in their early days. I think they will serve as the main antagonistic force in the game. Something like that yes. But I think they dont kill him. Maybe take some of his money forcing Michael to do one last (six) job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kesta195 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Just like John Marston was used by the FBI in their early days. I think they will serve as the main antagonistic force in the game. Something like that yes. But I think they dont kill him. Maybe take some of his money forcing Michael to do one last (six) job? Yeah doubt there will be any deaths within the three main characters. But there could be a situation where one of Michael's family members is kidnapped by them until Michael and the other two agree to cooperate. Or not. Could lead to one of the many multiple endings we are getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 The FIB will Probably be Like Mike Toreno from San Andreas. That would be awesome! Toreno was a great character. Toreno was a snake. Toreno kept his word about Sweet at least. I'm hoping we have a corrupt agent like this in V: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogy Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Just like John Marston was used by the FBI in their early days. I think they will serve as the main antagonistic force in the game. Something like that yes. But I think they dont kill him. Maybe take some of his money forcing Michael to do one last (six) job? Yeah doubt there will be any deaths within the three main characters. But there could be a situation where one of Michael's family members is kidnapped by them until Michael and the other two agree to cooperate. Or not. Could lead to one of the many multiple endings we are getting. Dont think the FIB will go that far to kidnap Tracy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 Just like John Marston was used by the FBI in their early days. I think they will serve as the main antagonistic force in the game. Something like that yes. But I think they dont kill him. Maybe take some of his money forcing Michael to do one last (six) job? Yeah doubt there will be any deaths within the three main characters. But there could be a situation where one of Michael's family members is kidnapped by them until Michael and the other two agree to cooperate. Or not. Could lead to one of the many multiple endings we are getting. Dont think the FIB will go that far to kidnap Tracy? If Michael can't control Trevor, who knows what the f*ck will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getzmunney Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Maybe michael comes from a long lineage of bank robbers . And there is a mythical gta version of dillinger, who actually was michaels grand father.. Imagine they have a documentary parody that you can watch on tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogy Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Just like John Marston was used by the FBI in their early days. I think they will serve as the main antagonistic force in the game. Something like that yes. But I think they dont kill him. Maybe take some of his money forcing Michael to do one last (six) job? Yeah doubt there will be any deaths within the three main characters. But there could be a situation where one of Michael's family members is kidnapped by them until Michael and the other two agree to cooperate. Or not. Could lead to one of the many multiple endings we are getting. Dont think the FIB will go that far to kidnap Tracy? If Michael can't control Trevor, who knows what the f*ck will happen. True, bit it seems they get along fine, based on the trailers. Sure Trevor is a bit 'off' but I assume he had his issues also back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Maybe michael comes from a long lineage of bank robbers. And there is a mythical gta version of dillinger, who actually was michaels grand father.. Imagine they have a documentary parody that you can watch on tv. I'd love if Michael tried to strike a deal with Vinewood trying to get a movie made about his life. That would be quite an ego trip, lol. I see Michael being low-key at first. Maybe later on in the story, as his ego inflates more & more because he returned to crime, he will eventually want more recognition. That's how legends are born, after all. Recognition. @Shockenheim: I have no doubt Trevor & Michael are friends. But this whole WP thing is just off for me. There is no way an honest-to-heart criminal like Trevor would be willing to work with someone tied to the FIB. Edited May 19, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogy Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 That's true. But his search for recognition could also mean his downfall. We also seen that happen, many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 That's true. But his search for recognition could also mean his downfall. We also seen that happen, many times. Would you blame Michael, though? Just look at his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogy Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 That's true. But his search for recognition could also mean his downfall. We also seen that happen, many times. Would you blame Michael, though? Just look at his life. I would not blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 They clearly have a hold over him & in exchange for letting him keep his ill gotten gains from his 'previous life', they will require some help (like kidnapping). A bit like John Marston's situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 They clearly have a hold over him & in exchange for letting him keep his ill gotten gains from his 'previous life', in exchange for some help (like kidnapping). A bit like John Marston's situation. Yep! Except he's not doing it for his family, like John was. He's doing it for himself, it sounds like. He cares about his family, as we seen in his trailer. But he is also selfish. Quite an interesting character. Looking forward to the therapy scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeaconBosco Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Hey look, GTA-King posting yet another thread/love letter about Michael. Talk about original and unexpected. /sarcasm #GETALIFE JK But seriously, I remember hearing from an unspecified "source" that the FIB going to force Michael to commit a robbery on their behalf, which will then reignite Mike's inner demons, setting up his character act. Edited May 19, 2013 by Deacon Bosco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 They clearly have a hold over him & in exchange for letting him keep his ill gotten gains from his 'previous life', in exchange for some help (like kidnapping). A bit like John Marston's situation. Yep! Except he's not doing it for his family, like John was. He's doing it for himself, it sounds like. He cares about his family, as we seen in his trailer. But he is also selfish. Quite an interesting character. Looking forward to the therapy scenes. Yeah, I was referring more about his deal with the FIB (or FBI), which is what Edgar Ross was an agent of, the BOI (Bureau of Investigation). Michael is certainly a different character to John, but their situations are quite similar (going by the little we know). I think his therapist will say that the two lives he wants are not compatible. He will choose the exciting old life, catching his wife cheating will probably give him the final push (though he's already met Franklin at that point). I imagine his family will end up in mortal danger & that will be the emotional part of the storyline, as he realizes his family mean more to him than money. Obviously it will be presented in a very nuanced & clever way. There's three different stories, so one is bound to appeal to each of us. Very exciting times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 They clearly have a hold over him & in exchange for letting him keep his ill gotten gains from his 'previous life', in exchange for some help (like kidnapping). A bit like John Marston's situation. Yep! Except he's not doing it for his family, like John was. He's doing it for himself, it sounds like. He cares about his family, as we seen in his trailer. But he is also selfish. Quite an interesting character. Looking forward to the therapy scenes. Yeah, I was referring more about his deal with the FIB (or FBI), which is what Edgar Ross was an agent of, the BOI (Bureau of Investigation). Michael is certainly a different character to John, but their situations are quite similar (going by the little we know). I think his therapist will say that the two lives he wants are not compatible. He will choose the exciting old life, catching his wife cheating will probably give him the final push (though he's already met Franklin at that point). I imagine his family will end up in mortal danger & that will be the emotional part of the storyline, as he realizes his family mean more to him than money. Obviously it will be presented in a very nuanced & clever way. There's three different stories, so one is bound to appeal to each of us. Very exciting times. What if he helps his family, right he cares and all that. But he dosen't stop doing it anyways? Basically he leaves his family for his own selfish desires, on top of the fact he dosen't want to put them in any more danger, so he just leaves? His family means something but the thrill of the crime means more so he just becomes the poster child for dead beat dads. Unlikely but it'd be a great spin IMO, it allways plays out that they realize how much more their family means to them and they give it up and become a family man. Though rarely do you see the ones who make the choice to just leave it and keep on with the life of crime. Also about Michael trying to get a movie deal about the heists, I'd love that, to no end. Maybe you can buy a studio like in Vice City, and then that could be one of the movies you could make. It'd make for some fun side missions and activities to stunt drive and do some shooting in your own productions IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zainzombie Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 @ZerrickiShadow: Hmmm. Well, we know Michael is miserable. Maybe after years of being watched, he cuts a deal with them saying that he will help them with certain things (like the kidnapping mission). This could fuel his lust for adrenaline, and he will want more. Eventually he will start constructing heists behind their back. I don't know. I have a strong feeling they are going to be a big part of the story though... at least for Michael. Remember the 2 corrupt agents in the leaked casting call? That's exactly what I have been thinking. I dont think they will know or support about the 5-6 big heists M/F/T plan in the game, but they will be the ones who start it all because they are the reason why Michael created a new team that works like a well-oiled machine with Trevor and Franklin in the first place. I think the first big mission will be the FIB kidnapping mission, from there onwards M/F/T will go on their own and pull heists to make money but FIB kinda gets the idea that it has something to do with Michael and they start to tail him. It would make a very interesting story with Michael, Trevor and Franklin having their separate stories mixed up with their collective goal of pulling 5 big heists while playing the mouse and cat games with FIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 They clearly have a hold over him & in exchange for letting him keep his ill gotten gains from his 'previous life', in exchange for some help (like kidnapping). A bit like John Marston's situation. Yep! Except he's not doing it for his family, like John was. He's doing it for himself, it sounds like. He cares about his family, as we seen in his trailer. But he is also selfish. Quite an interesting character. Looking forward to the therapy scenes. Yeah, I was referring more about his deal with the FIB (or FBI), which is what Edgar Ross was an agent of, the BOI (Bureau of Investigation). Michael is certainly a different character to John, but their situations are quite similar (going by the little we know). I think his therapist will say that the two lives he wants are not compatible. He will choose the exciting old life, catching his wife cheating will probably give him the final push (though he's already met Franklin at that point). I imagine his family will end up in mortal danger & that will be the emotional part of the storyline, as he realizes his family mean more to him than money. Obviously it will be presented in a very nuanced & clever way. There's three different stories, so one is bound to appeal to each of us. Very exciting times. What if he helps his family, right he cares and all that. But he dosen't stop doing it anyways? Basically he leaves his family for his own selfish desires, on top of the fact he dosen't want to put them in any more danger, so he just leaves? His family means something but the thrill of the crime means more so he just becomes the poster child for dead beat dads. Unlikely but it'd be a great spin IMO, it allways plays out that they realize how much more their family means to them and they give it up and become a family man. Though rarely do you see the ones who make the choice to just leave it and keep on with the life of crime. Also about Michael trying to get a movie deal about the heists, I'd love that, to no end. Maybe you can buy a studio like in Vice City, and then that could be one of the movies you could make. It'd make for some fun side missions and activities to stunt drive and do some shooting in your own productions IMO. Yes, I'd rather have a story that doesn't have the normal 'happy ending' (hell, I prefer Alien3 over Aliens for that very reason). As long as the 'realistic' ending doesn't feel forced, I'm all for it. I think we can safely assume none of the protagonists will die, as that's waaaay too obvious after Red Dead Redemption & L.A. Noire (although Dan Houser didn't write LAN's story) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 I love the idea of Michael constantly being one step ahead of the FIB. Reminds me of Walt evading Hank in Breaking Bad. Also, I really don't think Michael gives a sh*t about money. That's not why he is returning to crime. He is returning to feel ALIVE again, because his family is weighing him down. Not that he doesn't love them. He just needs to be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogy Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I love the idea of Michael constantly being one step ahead of the FIB. Reminds me of Walt evading Hank in Breaking Bad. Also, I really don't think Michael gives a sh*t about money. That's not why he is returning to crime. He is returning to feel ALIVE again, because his family is weighing him down. Not that he doesn't love them. He just needs to be happy. True that. But don't you think that Michael buys himself a place outside the city just to make sure his family is safe. Could be a nice twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Also, I really don't think Michael gives a sh*t about money. That's not why he is returning to crime. He is returning to feel ALIVE again, because his family is weighing him down. Not that he doesn't love them. He just needs to be happy. Same here. Him loving his family (at least his kids, I don't see his relationship with Amanda going anywhere in terms of love really but who knows) is one of the reasons besides wanting to get back into crime full time being reasons he could just end up leaving them. The life would be taxing and dangerous to them. I mean it's far from uncommon to have enemies kidnap or kill family members or friends at all, hell we've been on both ends in GTAIV/EFLC alone multiple times. (Roman getting Kidnapped, Having to Kidnap Roman while what's her face was in danger, and then kid napping Gracie and then rescuing Gracie.) Maybe something happens to them, and then he decides to leave, no real happy ending, just bitter sweet. I mean after all if he does get a happy lovely family type ending, it wouldn't feel right to go out there and tear up the streets as Michael after the game ends. I mean he dosen't have to leave for him to continue I guess but it'd make more sense in my honest opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogy Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I can see Michael leaving his family yes. That would be a great end after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-King Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) I love the idea of Michael constantly being one step ahead of the FIB. Reminds me of Walt evading Hank in Breaking Bad. Also, I really don't think Michael gives a sh*t about money. That's not why he is returning to crime. He is returning to feel ALIVE again, because his family is weighing him down. Not that he doesn't love them. He just needs to be happy. True that. But don't you think that Michael buys himself a place outside the city just to make sure his family is safe. Could be a nice twist. I can see that happening. Maybe Trevor's gun & drug operation will bring heat to Michael's calculated heist operation, thus endangering his family. Like, maybe if Trevor supplies Michael & Franklin with guns he stole from The Lost, this would piss them off & maybe capture someone in Michael's family. A safehouse for his family would be a good idea for Michael. Edited May 19, 2013 by GTA-King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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