Will the songs mention real life stuff?

[universetwisters]

I got piss bored not too long ago, so I decided to look up Franklin's trailer song. All was well, except for the fact that at around 0:46, the rapper dude mentions "Miller Light", which is a real life beer company. They've been doing this sh*t in damn near every GTA game since GTA Vice City, and, although minor, really takes away the "fictional universe" theme of GTA and drags us into the real world. I remember GTA 4 had some song called "New York Groove", but in the GTA universe, wouldn't it be called "Liberty City Groove"?

 

And here's the song in question. Let's discuss.

 

 

[SlappyPwnsAss]

Theres really nothing to discuss... do you want Dan Houser to make his own songs for the game?

[Lock n' Stock]

I remember some songs on the San Andreas soundtrack mentioned real-life locations. The 2-Pac song "I Don't Give a F*ck" for example, mentions San Francisco at one point. Then there's "West Coast Poplock" with the lyrics "California knows how to party!".

 

I guess they can't just block out the lyrics or change them to say "San Fierro" or "Liberty City". All they could do was not use the song. Other than that, not really a matter that can be helped.

Edited May 18, 2013 by Gst0395

[universetwisters]

I remember some songs on the San Andreas soundtrack mentioned real-life locations. The 2-Pac song "I Don't Give a F*ck" (in San Andreas) for example, mentions San Francisco at one point. Then there's "West Coast Poplock" with the lyrics "California knows how to party!".

 

I guess they can't just block out the lyrics or change them to say "San Fierro" or "Liberty City". All they could do was not use the song. Other than that, not really a matter that can be helped.

My point exactly. What's the point of making fictional cities if everything else is going to mention the real world?

 

SlappyPwnsAss - I remember GTA 3 and LCS did that

[Peregrin Brandytook]

 

I remember some songs on the San Andreas soundtrack mentioned real-life locations. The 2-Pac song "I Don't Give a F*ck" (in San Andreas) for example, mentions San Francisco at one point. Then there's "West Coast Poplock" with the lyrics "California knows how to party!".

 

I guess they can't just block out the lyrics or change them to say "San Fierro" or "Liberty City". All they could do was not use the song. Other than that, not really a matter that can be helped.

My point exactly. What's the point of making fictional cities if everything else is going to mention the real world?

 

SlappyPwnsAss - I remember GTA 3 and LCS did that

yes and they were horrible I would rather have real songs

[RandomNoun]

Edited May 18, 2013 by RandomNoun

[Peregrin Brandytook]

can you resize that image please

[Don_Corleone]

Yeah they should only take songs that don't mention anything that refers to real life objects, cities, ....

DERP

[universetwisters]

I remember some songs on the San Andreas soundtrack mentioned real-life locations. The 2-Pac song "I Don't Give a F*ck" (in San Andreas) for example, mentions San Francisco at one point. Then there's "West Coast Poplock" with the lyrics "California knows how to party!".

 

I guess they can't just block out the lyrics or change them to say "San Fierro" or "Liberty City". All they could do was not use the song. Other than that, not really a matter that can be helped.

My point exactly. What's the point of making fictional cities if everything else is going to mention the real world?

 

SlappyPwnsAss - I remember GTA 3 and LCS did that

yes and they were horrible I would rather have real songs

But if they would use real life songs that mention real life brands or locations that contradict what's been set in the GTA universe, couldn't they at least try to get the original artist to re-record it, mentioning the in-universe counterpart?

[Peregrin Brandytook]

I remember some songs on the San Andreas soundtrack mentioned real-life locations. The 2-Pac song "I Don't Give a F*ck" (in San Andreas) for example, mentions San Francisco at one point. Then there's "West Coast Poplock" with the lyrics "California knows how to party!".

 

I guess they can't just block out the lyrics or change them to say "San Fierro" or "Liberty City". All they could do was not use the song. Other than that, not really a matter that can be helped.

My point exactly. What's the point of making fictional cities if everything else is going to mention the real world?

 

SlappyPwnsAss - I remember GTA 3 and LCS did that

yes and they were horrible I would rather have real songs

But if they would use real life songs that mention real life brands or locations that contradict what's been set in the GTA universe, couldn't they at least try to get the original artist to re-record it, mentioning the in-universe counterpart?

does it matter?

[universetwisters]

I remember some songs on the San Andreas soundtrack mentioned real-life locations. The 2-Pac song "I Don't Give a F*ck" (in San Andreas) for example, mentions San Francisco at one point. Then there's "West Coast Poplock" with the lyrics "California knows how to party!".

 

I guess they can't just block out the lyrics or change them to say "San Fierro" or "Liberty City". All they could do was not use the song. Other than that, not really a matter that can be helped.

My point exactly. What's the point of making fictional cities if everything else is going to mention the real world?

 

SlappyPwnsAss - I remember GTA 3 and LCS did that

yes and they were horrible I would rather have real songs

But if they would use real life songs that mention real life brands or locations that contradict what's been set in the GTA universe, couldn't they at least try to get the original artist to re-record it, mentioning the in-universe counterpart?

does it matter?

Of course it does. Look back on it, in GTA 4, Rockstar spent a lot of effort making their own world that the GTA games existed in, with fake companies, websites, TV shows, etc. that make you feel "immersed" with the world, but whenever you listened to the radio, and they mention New York, Compton, etc. that really takes the feeling of being in a seperate universe away.

[JuventusFC]

 

maybe they should invent their own form of transportation because the real world has that.

 

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[JamalG]

as u all know, GTA IV also had numerous songs mentioning New York etc not Liberty City

 

im sure this time its also gon be already previously released official songs and songs done specially for the game

[United_Stealth]

I am really trying, but I can't get myself to care.

What is your point/goal/ what do you want them to do?

Stop making parodies? Or reright and remake all songs due to some name they gave to some city/things/areas?

They just pick those different names to make it 'funny', etc. And they add 'real' music to make you enjoy the radio.

I just don't see the issue here.

[Apex.]

That always had kinda irked me a bit, but there's not much Rockstar can do about it, they can't change the songs (well I suppose you never know with today's technology) So yeah I agree with you does kind throw you out of the fictional universe, but still, not much they can do. Maybe in GTA X hahha.

[brwhizz]

Perhaps they're singing about fictional places in these songs?

[universetwisters]

That always had kinda irked me a bit, but there's not much Rockstar can do about it, they can't change the songs (well I suppose you never know with today's technology) So yeah I agree with you does kind throw you out of the fictional universe, but still, not much they can do. Maybe in GTA X hahha.

True, I remember GTA 4 had some dude by the name of Mavado re-record some song he did by the name of Real McCoy to mention the Liberty City boroughs before the song started. If only Rockstar can get in touch with these rappers and politely ask them if they could re-record a song and mention "Ganton" rather than "Compton". It would make the world feel much more "complete".

[Race-n-Chase]

In Trevor's trailer song Nashville is mentioned but who the hell cares dude

[universetwisters]

In Trevor's trailer song Nashville is mentioned but who the hell cares dude

Maybe Nashville is one of the places in the GTA universe that doesn't have an in-universe counterpart, like how actual London was in GTA London.

[Cheatz/Trickz]

It has never bothered me.Even though GTA has fake versions of everything, real world locations and people are refered to, and exist as well as the fictional universe. New York can still exist, California can, Florida does etc. These music artists exist, so does the rest of the real world. GTA just parodies reality, but reality still exists. The radio stations are one of the few parts of GTA that "break the fourth wall".

 

[GTA 360]

I remember some songs on the San Andreas soundtrack mentioned real-life locations. The 2-Pac song "I Don't Give a F*ck" (in San Andreas) for example, mentions San Francisco at one point. Then there's "West Coast Poplock" with the lyrics "California knows how to party!".

 

I guess they can't just block out the lyrics or change them to say "San Fierro" or "Liberty City". All they could do was not use the song. Other than that, not really a matter that can be helped.

My point exactly. What's the point of making fictional cities if everything else is going to mention the real world?

 

SlappyPwnsAss - I remember GTA 3 and LCS did that

yes and they were horrible I would rather have real songs

But if they would use real life songs that mention real life brands or locations that contradict what's been set in the GTA universe, couldn't they at least try to get the original artist to re-record it, mentioning the in-universe counterpart?

Michael Jackson and Freddie Mercury (for example) are both dead, but hey, let's get them back to re record the songs. Same with Tupac.

Or how about we just use the original songs and live with it, it's only very minor and won't really effect anything, hell, you will have real life things in your room when playing but are you going to take everything out of your room because it doesn't fit with the game?

[RandomNoun]

But what about the artists? They obviously exist in some real life alternate universe, so they'll need to be fictionalised as well.

 

I think the best thing Rockstar can do is just not have any music in the game (apart from the original score) and just have talk radio, news, and adverts.

 

Or as a compromise just censor any artist/song names or any mention of real life places, people, events, dates, self-referencing material, and any words of the english (or other) language that have had any association with American culture. A Jerry Springer style bleep will suffice, I suppose (as long as they make no reference to Jerry Springer or American censorship in general).

[universetwisters]

It has never bothered me.Even though GTA has fake versions of everything, real world locations and people are refered to, and exist as well as the fictional universe. New York can still exist, California can, Florida does etc. These music artists exist, so does the rest of the real world. GTA just parodies reality, but reality still exists. The radio stations are one of the few parts of GTA that "break the fourth wall".

True, but in the Liberty City/New York example, wouldn't it be a bit silly for two cities with nearly the same history, culture, etc. located in the same geographic location?

[jamieleng]

It's certainly something I've noticed over the years, but it's not something that bothers me too much.I'd rather have a good song in the game, even if it does mention real world names & locations. It's not like they can get the artists to record a new line (which would cost a considerable amount), like they did with the comedians in Split-Sides stand up skits "Shaving a monkey & kicking it through Binco" & Liberty City replacing NY. However, if an artist ad a song in V & was a DJ on an in-game radio station, I'd be very disappointed if they didn't change it.

 

I think "Back in the NY groove" was a bit much though, as NY is part of the god damn title & chorus. I can understand why they would want the song in there, as it kinda epitomized the entire game & their reasons for returning to Liberty City, to do it right. I do like the song 'California Dreaming', but that would be same bullsh*t & there's zero chance to get the original artists to change their lyrics.

 

Oh well, most people wouldn't even notice but I guess it's my OCD that makes me want everything to fit. After all that, I think it bothers me more now.

Edited May 18, 2013 by jamieleng

[universetwisters]

But what about the artists? They obviously exist in some real life alternate universe, so they'll need to be fictionalised as well.

Very good point. Perhaps there's two artists, one who exists in our universe, and another who exists in the GTA universe? Like how we had Phil Collins in VCS

[RandomNoun]

But what about the artists? They obviously exist in some real life alternate universe, so they'll need to be fictionalised as well.

Very good point. Perhaps there's two artists, one who exists in our universe, and another who exists in the GTA universe? Like how we had Phil Collins in VCS

[GrandTheftEllboy]

Although trying to get the artists to re-record their songs is utterly ridiculous, I do agree that 'New York Groove' was out of place. Even if it is an awesome song, the residents of Liberty City must be like: 'where is this New York place?' Lol

[Max]

I disagree, songs referencing real world cities, items, brands etc does not in anyway fracture the fictional universe of GTA. The point is that in this Universe Los Santos and San Andreas exist within contemporary America. The rest of America and the world doesn't cease to exist with Los Santos, the city and the characters of the game exist within modern America. Loads of the songs in IV references New York rather than Liberty City but that was fine because you can just argue that its the music that is popular in Liberty City.

[RandomNoun]

This comes to mind ...

 

 

[ed72o]

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