GTAV is the darkest GTA of them all.

[Cutter De Blanc]

When you want to prove your point, you do a comparison with all the other GTA's. Explain why this stands out against GTA IV. Niko's story was pretty effing depressing if I do say so myself.

So was Johnny's. after I beat TLaD I threw him off the top of Rotterdam tower after Ashley called for the last time. It seemed like the thing to do.

[IDredMan]

If a comparison will clear up what I'm getting at, then a comparison is what I'm making.

Claude was betrayed by Catalina (I hope) and the game conspired and turned him into a GTA character with a bridge that was randomly bombed.

Tommy Vercetti became a GTA character after a set of coincidences.

CJ also became a GTA character after a set of events.

Niko became a GTA character after trying to run away from his past life, lost many loved ones and was set out for revenge.

 

They were all GTA characters doing their thing, we've never seen any of them make it to the top and get out of the game.

Michael is a GTA character that made it out in the best way possible, but the itch came back ...He's getting back in.

Trevor has been doing what a GTA character does even before the GTAV story takes place, he's already embraced it and he's gone sorta coocoo.

Franklin is just starting out, as you probably guessed, a weird set of coincidences turned him into a GTA character.

 

So just ...Is this the fate of every GTA character? Insanity, death or non-stop violence?

Is every GTA character stuck in a loop, and when he tries to get out, the thing he wants most is to go back in?

[_L1pE_]

You say it like being a GTA Character is a bad thing.

[IDredMan]

You say it like being a GTA Character is a bad thing.

It is for them, to be honest I never really think about that when I'm played, I think about getting the nicest car and killing random people.

[exmpletree]

 

If a comparison will clear up what I'm getting at, then a comparison is what I'm making.

Claude was betrayed by Catalina (I hope) and the game conspired and turned him into a GTA character with a bridge that was randomly bombed.

Tommy Vercetti became a GTA character after a set of coincidences.

CJ also became a GTA character after a set of events.

Niko became a GTA character after trying to run away from his past life, lost many loved ones and was set out for revenge.

 

They were all GTA characters doing their thing, we've never seen any of them make it to the top and get out of the game.

Michael is a GTA character that made it out in the best way possible, but the itch came back ...He's getting back in.

Trevor has been doing what a GTA character does even before the GTAV story takes place, he's already embraced it and he's gone sorta coocoo.

Franklin is just starting out, as you probably guessed, a weird set of coincidences turned him into a GTA character.

 

So just ...Is this the fate of every GTA character? Insanity, death or non-stop violence?

Is every GTA character stuck in a loop, and when he tries to get out, the thing he wants most is to go back in?

I think CJ came out quite happily, he owned the other gangs, killed all his enemy's and lives a life like a billionaire with 20 houses, a casino and 10 girlfriends!

 

Niko, however, has a lot sadder story. He moved all the way to america to live the dream and forget the horrible things he had done. Turns out his cousin is a broke-ass retard with lots of problems that force Niko to get into the crime game again and kill everyone. He even loses his girlfriend or cousin in the end

Edited May 17, 2013 by exmpletree

[BullworthAcademy]

Did you not play GTA IV. That game looks much darker than this game and it's much more serious than stealing money from banks and what not. IV is the darkest GTA of them all.

Did you even begin to read the post?

Hmm, yes.

I presume you just read a third of my post and presummed that I was only referring to the lighting and look of IV. No, give my original comment another read. IV is still darker than V, I mean did you even play the game? Niko loses so many he loves and- well the story is just really dark. It's much mor darker than some dumb psychopathic hick, a thug from 'the hood' or some rich man who hates his family.

I suggest you read the psychoanalysis of the 3 characters again.

(From your argument, I suggest you read them for the first time.)

 

I wasn't talking about their f*cking stories, I'm talking about their existence.

Um, I read it already. And you think their existance is darker than Niko's?

I'm done, go ahead and believe V is darker.

Oh ffs...

Man, you act like you know everything but the game is not even out yet and everyone is acting like they have completed it 100%.

 

Chill.

[IDredMan]

If a comparison will clear up what I'm getting at, then a comparison is what I'm making.

Claude was betrayed by Catalina (I hope) and the game conspired and turned him into a GTA character with a bridge that was randomly bombed.

Tommy Vercetti became a GTA character after a set of coincidences.

CJ also became a GTA character after a set of events.

Niko became a GTA character after trying to run away from his past life, lost many loved ones and was set out for revenge.

 

They were all GTA characters doing their thing, we've never seen any of them make it to the top and get out of the game.

Michael is a GTA character that made it out in the best way possible, but the itch came back ...He's getting back in.

Trevor has been doing what a GTA character does even before the GTAV story takes place, he's already embraced it and he's gone sorta coocoo.

Franklin is just starting out, as you probably guessed, a weird set of coincidences turned him into a GTA character.

 

So just ...Is this the fate of every GTA character? Insanity, death or non-stop violence?

Is every GTA character stuck in a loop, and when he tries to get out, the thing he wants most is to go back in?

I think CJ came out quite happily, he owned the other gangs, killed all his enemy's and lives a life like a billionaire with 20 houses, a casino and 10 girlfriends!

 

Niko, however, has a lot sadder story. He moved all the way to america to live the dream and forget the horrible things he had done. Turns out his cousin is a broke-ass retard with lots of problems that force Niko to get into the crime game again and kill everyone. He even loses his girlfriend or cousin in the end

See? That's almost the same thing.

From what he says about getting out and living a normal life, he's been doing the same thing in Serbia/Crotia (Sorry, I get them both mixed up ...Damn you Nikola Tesla!) and he was thrown straight the hell back into the killing/stealing/massacar-ing business.

[IronsteffL]

I think you are going Breaking Bad on GTA V. Yes, it's a depressing thought for us to not be able to escape this life of crime, but I don't think GTA characters mind as much as we do. Claude was, not only judging from his muteness, a white piece of paper. Claude was what the player wanted him to be. CJ was a gangsta who actually enjoyed his lifestyle, Grove Street 4 life and stuff. Vercetti was a Tony Montana kinda guy and Niko was mainly out for revenge. None of their outlooks seem exceptionally dark to me because all of them chose to be criminals. And GTA V seems like just the same to me. I think the only way to tell what the darkest game in the series is is by judging the story - and we can't do that yet with GTA V.

[IDredMan]

I think you are going Breaking Bad on GTA V. Yes, it's a depressing thought for us to not be able to escape this life of crime, but I don't think GTA characters mind as much as we do. Claude was, not only judging from his muteness, a white piece of paper. Claude was what the player wanted him to be. CJ was a gangsta who actually enjoyed his lifestyle, Grove Street 4 life and stuff. Vercetti was a Tony Montana kinda guy and Niko was mainly out for revenge. None of their outlooks seem exceptionally dark to me because all of them chose to be criminals. And GTA V seems like just the same to me. I think the only way to tell what the darkest game in the series is is by judging the story - and we can't do that yet with GTA V.

Yeah I guess it's not that sad for them, since they probably don't think about that too much.

But willingly or unwillingly, they're gonna be criminals.

Niko unwillingly came back into the life of crime.

Michael will probably get back into it willingly.

Franklin, trying to get out of the gangbanging life will get into a GTA character-like life. Not sure how that will be, guess I should have probably waited for the game to come out and see exactly how they get into the life/back into it. And if they get out/try to get out and if they fail or what.

[Kifflom112]

Pop quiz:

What kind of darkness am I talking about?

You cannot read, can you? You must not have read any of my posts. I had said that Niko was a much darker character with a darker story. Not once did I only say IV was darker because of graphics. Either you cannot read a full post or you're trolling and trying to get on our nerves.

@Other post directed towards me: It's obvious V has a lighter story.

[BullworthAcademy]

Pop quiz:

What kind of darkness am I talking about?

You cannot read, can you? You must not have read any of my posts. I had said that Niko was a much darker character with a darker story. Not once did I only say IV was darker because of graphics. Either you cannot read a full post or you're trolling and trying to get on our nerves.

@Other post directed towards me: It's obvious V has a lighter story.

My post wasn't directed at you, it was directed to IDredMan.

[I Luke]

I'm not bothered about the characters background. The reason I play the characters is because I have to. If I had to choose my own, it would probably be a fat old lady for the lols.

 

+ I'm not sure how you can make that assumption, you've not even played it yet There's probably more to them than a quick brief description that R* gave us.

[IDredMan]

Pop quiz:

What kind of darkness am I talking about?

I had said that Niko was a much darker character with a darker story.

You get an F, backstory and story itself is not what I'm talking about at all.

Niko lost many loved ones along the way and his strive for revenge is really sad, sadder than any of the GTA V characters.

I'm talking about the GTA character's obligation to be a criminal and a murderer, Niko came to the US to escape that life, but has failed and started killing people, killed people for his loved ones, the person he has, Roman which may or may not die at the end.

 

The characters of GTAV emphasize that a GTA character is not able to get out of the crime life, stuck in it forever.

No matter how hard you try to get out (Niko) or how they try to stop you from being a criminal (Claude or ...CJ and Tommy I guess) the only way to get out is death.

Once a GTA character always a GTA character.

[IDredMan]

Also, how is Michael, Trevor and Franklin getting into the life of crime an assumption?

[lava lamp]

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[zainzombie]

Well.. Its always a choice, all those characters chose to be the "GTA character" and one way or another they will have to pay for the consequences. You cant just simply get away and live happily ever after after being a "GTA character".

 

They could have chosen otherwise, like Niko could have asked Roman to go back to Serbia with him the moment they burnt his company and house, CJ could have chose to run away like he did once before, Tommy could have just made the money he lost return it to the family and live the life like he was before the deal went bad in VC.

 

They chose otherwise and their lives turned out accordingly. Our decisions shape our lives.

 

But it always doesnt have to be bad consequences. CJ and Vercetti got the best out of it IMO, I dont think they would regret anything about their decisions.

[G D]

 

Pop quiz:

What kind of darkness am I talking about?

You cannot read, can you? You must not have read any of my posts. I had said that Niko was a much darker character with a darker story. Not once did I only say IV was darker because of graphics. Either you cannot read a full post or you're trolling and trying to get on our nerves.

@Other post directed towards me: It's obvious V has a lighter story.

Or just plain retarded.

 

I'm tired and in need for speed.

[e1999KrayzieBone]

Nothing will be darker that GTAIV.

 

A pennyless Eastern European soldier with the blood of his compatriots on his hands trades his murderous past from his war-torn genocidal homeland for what he thinks will be the American Dream...when arrives at the docks of a strange, foreign, cold, dark, foggy, filthy island known as Broker, a violent, poverty-stricken borough of the ironically-named "Liberty City," he is quick to discover that his hoodwinking cousin had deceived him and life in America will not be easy at all.

 

His visions of grandeur are quickly replaced by a harsh, cruel, unforgiving reality that forces him into survival mode like a stray dog, he must do whatever it takes to survive, and he has to resort back to the only way he knows how to survive: violence. As the bodycount rises his conscience dissolves to nothing...he is forced to sacrifice any shred of dignity he had left in pursuit of revenge, as well as the mighty dollar.

 

In the end, he stands at the Statue of Happiness (ironically again,) more alone than before he got to this godforsaken city. He built an empire on the blood of men, but has nothing but material items to show for it.

 

He might as well have blasted himself at the end of IV. It won't get any darker than that.

Edited May 17, 2013 by E1999Eternal

[Kifflom112]

Pop quiz:

What kind of darkness am I talking about?

I had said that Niko was a much darker character with a darker story.

You get an F, backstory and story itself is not what I'm talking about at all.

Niko lost many loved ones along the way and his strive for revenge is really sad, sadder than any of the GTA V characters.

I'm talking about the GTA character's obligation to be a criminal and a murderer, Niko came to the US to escape that life, but has failed and started killing people, killed people for his loved ones, the person he has, Roman which may or may not die at the end.

 

The characters of GTAV emphasize that a GTA character is not able to get out of the crime life, stuck in it forever.

No matter how hard you try to get out (Niko) or how they try to stop you from being a criminal (Claude or ...CJ and Tommy I guess) the only way to get out is death.

Once a GTA character always a GTA character.

You must have gotten an F in comprehension. I'm sorry to be so rude but damn.

[Myrskalle]

So this is the 4th or 5th time I said this?

I'm not talking about the graphics and I'm not talking about the story or their personalities.

You know what. ..Screw this.

I'm not even gonna keep talking.

Are you retarded or something? People aren´t talking about the freaking lighting, they´re talking about the general tone of the game. Judging from the trailers of V that we´ve seen so far, IV is easily the darker one.

[.JimmyHopkins.]

Did you not play GTA IV. That game looks much darker than this game and it's much more serious than stealing money from banks and what not. IV is the darkest GTA of them all.

Did you even begin to read the post?

Hmm, yes.

I presume you just read a third of my post and presummed that I was only referring to the lighting and look of IV. No, give my original comment another read. IV is still darker than V, I mean did you even play the game? Niko loses so many he loves and- well the story is just really dark. It's much mor darker than some dumb psychopathic hick, a thug from 'the hood' or some rich man who hates his family.

I suggest you read the psychoanalysis of the 3 characters again.

(From your argument, I suggest you read them for the first time.)

 

I wasn't talking about their f*cking stories, I'm talking about their existence.

I think when you have 15 children/friends (who didn't even want to be in a war) shot in a village ,and one of your "friends" sold their lives for 1000$ ...ruining Nikos life driving him into even more misery than he is already into...no matter what psycoannalysis is made for those 3 characters in GTA V ...the story in IV is much more sad and dark.

[.JimmyHopkins.]

Pop quiz:

What kind of darkness am I talking about?

I had said that Niko was a much darker character with a darker story.

You get an F, backstory and story itself is not what I'm talking about at all.

Niko lost many loved ones along the way and his strive for revenge is really sad, sadder than any of the GTA V characters.

I'm talking about the GTA character's obligation to be a criminal and a murderer, Niko came to the US to escape that life, but has failed and started killing people, killed people for his loved ones, the person he has, Roman which may or may not die at the end.

 

The characters of GTAV emphasize that a GTA character is not able to get out of the crime life, stuck in it forever.

No matter how hard you try to get out (Niko) or how they try to stop you from being a criminal (Claude or ...CJ and Tommy I guess) the only way to get out is death.

Once a GTA character always a GTA character.

do you know if they can't get out of that life? No.Have you played the game? No. How exactly can you judge something like this from 5 trailers and some screenshots? Im not trying to be rude,but please explain. Also,if its not the backstory (which we also had with Niko and in his case is probably the sad and most dark one) or the lightning or the atmosphere...then again : how can you pick something else rather then that ,from a few trailers and screens? We don't know sh*t about Michael ,Franklin or Trevour

[JuanCortez]

 

Nothing will be darker that GTAIV.

 

A pennyless Eastern European soldier with the blood of his compatriots on his hands trades his murderous past from his war-torn genocidal homeland for what he thinks will be the American Dream...when arrives at the docks of a strange, foreign, cold, dark, foggy, filthy island known as Broker, a violent, poverty-stricken borough of the ironically-named "Liberty City," he is quick to discover that his hoodwinking cousin had deceived him and life in America will not be easy at all. 

 

His visions of grandeur are quickly replaced by a harsh, cruel, unforgiving reality that forces him into survival mode like a stray dog, he must do whatever it takes to survive, and he has to resort back to the only way he knows how to survive: violence.  As the bodycount rises his conscience dissolves to nothing...he is forced to sacrifice any shred of dignity he had left in pursuit of revenge, as well as the mighty dollar. 

 

In the end, he stands at the Statue of Happiness (ironically again,) more alone than before he got to this godforsaken city.  He built an empire on the blood of men, but has nothing but material items to show for it. 

 

He might as well have blasted himself at the end of IV.  It won't get any darker than that.

I'm with you. It may not have been my favourite GTA (character) out of the series, but Niko's whole tragedy was pretty dark imo.

One of the only GTA's where I didn't feel relieved, happy or anything by accomplishing the main story line (like VC or SA where you felt you were on top of the world), no depressing actually.

 

What we have heard and seen so far from V it seems alot brighter, these 3 guys that have a kind of passion or craze for crime, or at least earning a lot of money the bad way. But again we don't know anything yet about the depth of these characters in V. Just judging by that IV is 'darker'.

 

On a side note, overall the game seems like a lot more 'fun' and (self)humorous, and that's what I have always liked in GTA, the balance between that and the gritty dark side of the characters.

[WATER DRAGON]

I think there will be lots of dark moments were the guys you play as might be in there dark places but more likely it won't be darker then GTA4. It most likely be like The Balled Of Gay Tony and GTA San Andreas.

[HudS]

 

 

OT: I think that IV is the darkest one. But ive haven't played V yet so we will see wich one's the darkest.

[Jeremy252]

I can kinda sorta see where you're coming from. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're saying that the implications of V's story is what's so dark about it. Not necessarily the story or the characters themselves. It's the fact that a GTA character is doomed to always be a GTA character. They'll never get out of the life of crime no matter how hard they try. I can see why that would be pretty dark when you put a lot of thought into it. I still wouldn't say V is the darkest, but I see your point.

[allftw]

You have to understand that your topic makes very little sense. I mean what does "the darkest Gta" mean to you anyway? You say that it's not about the story, the characters' backgrounds and personalities, the tone, the graphics or the lighting... Then what is it about?

 

It seems like what you are trying to say is basically that a GTA character is always a GTA character and that is dark. And that the characters in V prove this therefore making it the darkest one. Even if we accept that as the definition of a GTA game being dark, you just went ahead to contradict yourself by saying that past GTA protagonists (mainly Niko) has already proven that.

 

So just answer this in a simple way before you get furious at people: Why is GTAV the darkest GTA?

[IDredMan]

I can kinda sorta see where you're coming from. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're saying that the implications of V's story is what's so dark about it. Not necessarily the story or the characters themselves. It's the fact that a GTA character is doomed to always be a GTA character. They'll never get out of the life of crime no matter how hard they try. I can see why that would be pretty dark when you put a lot of thought into it. I still wouldn't say V is the darkest, but I see your point.

I love you, that's exactly what I was getting at.

[Happyness]

IMO you're thinking too much into this, chill out, it's just a game. And yeah, I got your point.

[IDredMan]

IMO you're thinking too much into this, chill out, it's just a game. And yeah, I got your point.

This is what happens when I try being serious?