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Have GTA V learned from Just Cause 2?


Leblanc
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So while waiting for GTA V to come out, i played Just Cause 2, when i finished the main story (only 7 missions) i completed 23 % of the game in 12 hours, my main feeling was disappointment, a game with a wonderful designed world and very extensive just wasn't exploited at it's best. So when hearing about R* saying that GTA V will be massive, 3.5x the size of RDR, you would want an amazing and satisfactory story.

 

If the game is going to be all about Heist, how can you expect a good story? Or will it be another Hollywood cliche about bad guys against cops? What do you think?

 

 

Here is a comparison about maps sizes. (i did not make it)

 

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Part 2 (i did not make it)

 

http://i.imgur.com/xJU7Q.jpg

 

please link or resize page stretching images

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That map is not even correct

Which pretty much concludes this topic.

 

Cheers!

– overeducated wonk who fetishises compromise

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ChronoStinger

Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

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Don_Corleone
Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

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that pic it´s not reliable since it´s out of proportion, Burnout Paradise map is not 5 times bigger than SA.

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Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

...well believe it or not, but i'm serious! ...i never understood all the hype for storyline in games like GTA! all i need is my vehicle, my weapon and my cup of beer, storyline isn't that important in my opinion in games like GTA and never was! I never give two pennies when each time i'm playing GTA San Andreas about CJ's hood and families! I never care about his past and future and current! All i care for is that i'm getting better and better as i advance in the storyline and complete side missions and thats the most important!

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saintsrowrules

JC2 wasn't just bad story. It was bad scripting and voice acting as well.

 

You don't need a great story if you have a good script and voice acting imo.

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That map is not even correct

As i said i didn't make the map so, it isn't about facts, it's about discussions and opinions

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As mentioned, that picture isn't completely reliable. However, if it was, then you can expect GTA V's map to be roughly the same size as Far Cry 2's map.

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Don_Corleone
Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

...well believe it or not, but i'm serious! ...i never understood all the hype for storyline in games like GTA! all i need is my vehicle, my weapon and my cup of beer, storyline isn't that important in my opinion in games like GTA and never was!

Fair enough

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GOD DAMN IT. GTA SAN ANDREAS' MAP IS NOT THE SIZE OF THAT BITCH ASS LOST ISLAND FROM JC2. SERIOUSLY USE OF THAT IMAGE SHOULD BE BANNED FROM THE BOARD BECAUSE I GET ANGRIER AND ANGRIER EACH TIME I SEE IT

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Revolution-XW
That map is not even correct

Which pretty much concludes this topic.

 

Cheers!

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Noobs these days.

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Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

...well believe it or not, but i'm serious! ...i never understood all the hype for storyline in games like GTA! all i need is my vehicle, my weapon and my cup of beer, storyline isn't that important in my opinion in games like GTA and never was! I never give two pennies when each time i'm playing GTA San Andreas about CJ's hood and families! I never care about his past and future and current! All i care for is that i'm getting better and better as i advance in the storyline and complete side missions and thats the most important!

Damn, well if you are serious, then all to their own. I personally love Rockstar's stories.

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GtaIIIFanBoy

Gta V Will have a better storyline than just cause 2! i mean come on Bro rockstar would seriously have to f*ck up not to.

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Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

...well believe it or not, but i'm serious! ...i never understood all the hype for storyline in games like GTA! all i need is my vehicle, my weapon and my cup of beer, storyline isn't that important in my opinion in games like GTA and never was! I never give two pennies when each time i'm playing GTA San Andreas about CJ's hood and families! I never care about his past and future and current! All i care for is that i'm getting better and better as i advance in the storyline and complete side missions and thats the most important!

Your not really a Gta fan if you don't care about the story. well IMO anyway

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Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

...well believe it or not, but i'm serious! ...i never understood all the hype for storyline in games like GTA! all i need is my vehicle, my weapon and my cup of beer, storyline isn't that important in my opinion in games like GTA and never was! I never give two pennies when each time i'm playing GTA San Andreas about CJ's hood and families! I never care about his past and future and current! All i care for is that i'm getting better and better as i advance in the storyline and complete side missions and thats the most important!

Damn, well if you are serious, then all to their own. I personally love Rockstar's stories.

Well that's whats wrong, because if you as a Dev company want to make a great game, but you can't write a good story, well the game in the end isn't that great, there are many many companies that can create a sandbox / open world game, but create a good story? just a few.. So it shouldn't receive a 9 or 10 from metacritic and other rating entities, but like always they just give 10 to R*..

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Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

...well believe it or not, but i'm serious! ...i never understood all the hype for storyline in games like GTA! all i need is my vehicle, my weapon and my cup of beer, storyline isn't that important in my opinion in games like GTA and never was! I never give two pennies when each time i'm playing GTA San Andreas about CJ's hood and families! I never care about his past and future and current! All i care for is that i'm getting better and better as i advance in the storyline and complete side missions and thats the most important!

Your not really a Gta fan if you don't care about the story. well IMO anyway

And so? you're trying to make me feel worse saying that or something? or do you think i care?...i said what i think, what's inside my head and it doesn't matter what you call it, i might or might not be true gta fan (probably not...), but why is that so important? all i can say is that i like games, which give me freedom of choice and lots of possibilities and since GTA is such a game - thats why i like it!...

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Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

...well believe it or not, but i'm serious! ...i never understood all the hype for storyline in games like GTA! all i need is my vehicle, my weapon and my cup of beer, storyline isn't that important in my opinion in games like GTA and never was! I never give two pennies when each time i'm playing GTA San Andreas about CJ's hood and families! I never care about his past and future and current! All i care for is that i'm getting better and better as i advance in the storyline and complete side missions and thats the most important!

Your not really a Gta fan if you don't care about the story. well IMO anyway

And so? you're trying to make me feel worse saying that or something? or do you think i care?...i said what i think, what's inside my head and it doesn't matter what you call it, i might or might not be true gta fan (probably not...), but why is that so important? all i can say is that i like games, which give me freedom of choice and lots of possibilities and since GTA is such a game - thats why i like it!...

lol well that's fair enough bro we cant all be fanboys like me. biggrin.gif

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TheMisanthrope
Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

...well believe it or not, but i'm serious! ...i never understood all the hype for storyline in games like GTA! all i need is my vehicle, my weapon and my cup of beer, storyline isn't that important in my opinion in games like GTA and never was! I never give two pennies when each time i'm playing GTA San Andreas about CJ's hood and families! I never care about his past and future and current! All i care for is that i'm getting better and better as i advance in the storyline and complete side missions and thats the most important!

The story means the most to me. That's how I feel towards people who just care about free roaming. I don't understand why people lack f*cks given about a great story. Don't get me wrong I love free roaming too but in depth story telling that R* always comes up with is astounding. I love the storyline of RDR, GTA: IV and MP3. It's not all about the free roaming for everyone.

 

And some people like to get to know each character and a little bit about them it makes you grow an attachment to them. When a story has flaws in them and done all half ass it ruins the game. Or at least it does for ME. Yes when I'm done with the storyline I'm going to enjoy the free roaming and everything it has to offer. But a great storyline shouldn't only be for a RPG or First person shooter.... I cannot adequately come up with a word how dumb that sounds. The goal for ALL game developers should be to create a fantastic storyline.

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Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

...well believe it or not, but i'm serious! ...i never understood all the hype for storyline in games like GTA! all i need is my vehicle, my weapon and my cup of beer, storyline isn't that important in my opinion in games like GTA and never was! I never give two pennies when each time i'm playing GTA San Andreas about CJ's hood and families! I never care about his past and future and current! All i care for is that i'm getting better and better as i advance in the storyline and complete side missions and thats the most important!

The story means the most to me. That's how I feel towards people who just care about free roaming. I don't understand why people lack f*cks given about a great story. Don't get me wrong I love free roaming too but in depth story telling that R* always comes up with is astounding. I love the storyline of RDR, GTA: IV and MP3. It's not all about the free roaming for everyone.

 

And some people like to get to know each character and a little bit about them it makes you grow an attachment to them. When a story has flaws in them and done all half ass it ruins the game. Or at least it does for ME. Yes when I'm done with the storyline I'm going to enjoy the free roaming and everything it has to offer. But a great storyline shouldn't only be for a RPG or First person shooter.... I cannot adequately come up with a word how dumb that sounds. The goal for ALL game developers should be to create a fantastic storyline.

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ChronoStinger
Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

...well believe it or not, but i'm serious! ...i never understood all the hype for storyline in games like GTA! all i need is my vehicle, my weapon and my cup of beer, storyline isn't that important in my opinion in games like GTA and never was! I never give two pennies when each time i'm playing GTA San Andreas about CJ's hood and families! I never care about his past and future and current! All i care for is that i'm getting better and better as i advance in the storyline and complete side missions and thats the most important!

The story means the most to me. That's how I feel towards people who just care about free roaming. I don't understand why people lack f*cks given about a great story. Don't get me wrong I love free roaming too but in depth story telling that R* always comes up with is astounding. I love the storyline of RDR, GTA: IV and MP3. It's not all about the free roaming for everyone.

 

And some people like to get to know each character and a little bit about them it makes you grow an attachment to them. When a story has flaws in them and done all half ass it ruins the game. Or at least it does for ME. Yes when I'm done with the storyline I'm going to enjoy the free roaming and everything it has to offer. But a great storyline shouldn't only be for a RPG or First person shooter.... I cannot adequately come up with a word how dumb that sounds. The goal for ALL game developers should be to create a fantastic storyline.

i beg to differ!... gameplay>storyline>graphics>everything else to me!...why? because i know lots of example, when game has neat storyline, but shallow and dull gameplay, where there's literally nothing ELSE to do, besides storyline!...would youl ike that kind of game let me ask you?...that is my point! The example i was talking about was Mass Effect 2, i played through those game, but it was all about storyline and personalities of characters, which are admittedly yes...very neat in that game, but everything else just s*ck donkey balls! the whole Mass Effect 2 gameplay is bunch of cinematic sequences to trick you into believing that YOU control your game and not the opposite!...

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Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

...well believe it or not, but i'm serious! ...i never understood all the hype for storyline in games like GTA! all i need is my vehicle, my weapon and my cup of beer, storyline isn't that important in my opinion in games like GTA and never was! I never give two pennies when each time i'm playing GTA San Andreas about CJ's hood and families! I never care about his past and future and current! All i care for is that i'm getting better and better as i advance in the storyline and complete side missions and thats the most important!

Damn, well if you are serious, then all to their own. I personally love Rockstar's stories.

Well that's whats wrong, because if you as a Dev company want to make a great game, but you can't write a good story, well the game in the end isn't that great, there are many many companies that can create a sandbox / open world game, but create a good story? just a few.. So it shouldn't receive a 9 or 10 from metacritic and other rating entities, but like always they just give 10 to R*..

You got to be joking? Rockstar deserves a 10 and nothing less IMO which I feel strongly towards. icon13.gif

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TheMisanthrope
Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

...well believe it or not, but i'm serious! ...i never understood all the hype for storyline in games like GTA! all i need is my vehicle, my weapon and my cup of beer, storyline isn't that important in my opinion in games like GTA and never was! I never give two pennies when each time i'm playing GTA San Andreas about CJ's hood and families! I never care about his past and future and current! All i care for is that i'm getting better and better as i advance in the storyline and complete side missions and thats the most important!

The story means the most to me. That's how I feel towards people who just care about free roaming. I don't understand why people lack f*cks given about a great story. Don't get me wrong I love free roaming too but in depth story telling that R* always comes up with is astounding. I love the storyline of RDR, GTA: IV and MP3. It's not all about the free roaming for everyone.

 

And some people like to get to know each character and a little bit about them it makes you grow an attachment to them. When a story has flaws in them and done all half ass it ruins the game. Or at least it does for ME. Yes when I'm done with the storyline I'm going to enjoy the free roaming and everything it has to offer. But a great storyline shouldn't only be for a RPG or First person shooter.... I cannot adequately come up with a word how dumb that sounds. The goal for ALL game developers should be to create a fantastic storyline.

i beg to differ!... gameplay>storyline>graphics>everything else to me!...why? because i know lots of example, when game has neat storyline, but shallow and dull gameplay, where there's literally nothing ELSE to do, besides storyline!...would youl ike that kind of game let me ask you?...that is my point! The example i was talking about was Mass Effect 2, i played through those game, but it was all about storyline and personalities of characters, which are admittedly yes...very neat in that game, but everything else just s*ck donkey balls! the whole Mass Effect 2 gameplay is bunch of cinematic sequences to trick you into believing that YOU control your game and not the opposite!...

That is YOUR opinion but you still misunderstand people like me...

I'm not saying to put every little thing towards the storyline itself. You want good graphics, great gameplay AND amazing storytelling and R* always seems to come through on that. You can enjoy your beer in one hand and leave the game designing to those who understand true fans.... you want to free roam and not give a rats ass about the story be my guest but it doesn't mean WE who love a good story should suffer.

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Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

...well believe it or not, but i'm serious! ...i never understood all the hype for storyline in games like GTA! all i need is my vehicle, my weapon and my cup of beer, storyline isn't that important in my opinion in games like GTA and never was! I never give two pennies when each time i'm playing GTA San Andreas about CJ's hood and families! I never care about his past and future and current! All i care for is that i'm getting better and better as i advance in the storyline and complete side missions and thats the most important!

Damn, well if you are serious, then all to their own. I personally love Rockstar's stories.

Well that's whats wrong, because if you as a Dev company want to make a great game, but you can't write a good story, well the game in the end isn't that great, there are many many companies that can create a sandbox / open world game, but create a good story? just a few.. So it shouldn't receive a 9 or 10 from metacritic and other rating entities, but like always they just give 10 to R*..

You got to be joking? Rockstar deserves a 10 and nothing less IMO which I feel strongly towards. icon13.gif

Well my friend when you grow older you realize that there is no such thing like perfect, so no, R* doesn't diserve a 10 ot of 10. They may make amazing games but not perfect games. a 9 maybe but 10 like GTA IV, No.

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ChronoStinger

 

Story son? seriously? you care so much for a story in a game, which emphasis onto complete freedom? gimme a break! leave this "cool story" nonsense to the linear shooter games, strategies and RPGs (especially made by Bioware!...)...

 

 

Not sure if serious...

...well believe it or not, but i'm serious! ...i never understood all the hype for storyline in games like GTA! all i need is my vehicle, my weapon and my cup of beer, storyline isn't that important in my opinion in games like GTA and never was! I never give two pennies when each time i'm playing GTA San Andreas about CJ's hood and families! I never care about his past and future and current! All i care for is that i'm getting better and better as i advance in the storyline and complete side missions and thats the most important!

Damn, well if you are serious, then all to their own. I personally love Rockstar's stories.

Well that's whats wrong, because if you as a Dev company want to make a great game, but you can't write a good story, well the game in the end isn't that great, there are many many companies that can create a sandbox / open world game, but create a good story? just a few.. So it shouldn't receive a 9 or 10 from metacritic and other rating entities, but like always they just give 10 to R*..

You got to be joking? Rockstar deserves a 10 and nothing less IMO which I feel strongly towards. icon13.gif

Well my friend when you grow older you realize that there is no such thing like perfect, so no, R* doesn't diserve a 10 ot of 10. They may make amazing games but not perfect games. a 9 maybe but 10 like GTA IV, No.

GTAIV was horrible! GTA San Andreas is where all the fun is!...and Thank God R* realized it and make it more like San Andreas this time and less like GTAIV (screw this realism boredom!...)

TheMisanthrope listen that is an endless argument...i still stay strong on my opinion and i'm not going to change it, i understand fully what you were trying to say, but...ah well lets just drop it already! ...what i was trying to say is that game with horrible storyline (like really REALLY horrible), but with great gameplay and free roam ability will always be better in my eyes, then game with great storyline and horrible gameplay!...case closed, lets not pick this up again please!...

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