Corndawg93 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Why the hell would Tracy commit suicide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micheal Soprano Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Her attempt would be for attention seeking purposes. She wouldnt actually do it but will threaten micheal and amanda that she will, if she is not given something she wants. Typical spoilt brat behaviour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racecarlock Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Yet, I think in the recent previews that Rockstar said that they are doing both a part serious and part ridiculous story for this game. I can see it being really similar to RDR's tone. That game had a pretty dark and serious theme but still had a lot of funny characters and humorous moments. It had a very serious story to tell but never let that get in the way of a good laugh every now and then. With GTA V, I can see them doing a lot of "larger-than-life" type missions and characters, while still being grounded in reality with a dark story to tell. I see it this way: the game is about chasing the almighty dollar, it would be pretty dull if the characters achieved their goal and then the game just ended. Much more conflict is needed. Good point, but I don't see what tracy just killing herself out of nowhere would really add to the story. I mean, it's a twist straight out of All My Circuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuSsIeThUnDeR36 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I don't see Michael and his wife as bad parents, there are obviously some parenting issues going on within the household - Tracy arguing with the mum about her boyfriend staying over and Michael taking the remote away. Jimmy seems to be the one trying to hold his Dad together 'Why do I have to hold your hand through this mid life crisis sh*t' hes obviously concerned fnr his dad, which is nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsrow Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Why do people want such a happy story for? This isn't a damn romantic comedy But it also isn't a poetry slam at the slit your wrists cafe. great response. I was going to reply, "What, I thought GTAV -is- going to be a romantic comedy based on what we have seen so far." Anyway, I am hoping that Rockstar does not artificially include this level of darkness and drama. The already took themsleves tooo seriously with the story in GTA IV. If they go down this road, I would only believe it if the story were so compelling that it was clearly necessary. Otherwise it's easy to make any story do a dramatic turn by having something bad happen to one of the peripheral characters, case in point being the daughter's suicide attempt in Heat, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racecarlock Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Why do people want such a happy story for? This isn't a damn romantic comedy But it also isn't a poetry slam at the slit your wrists cafe. great response. I was going to reply, "What, I thought GTAV -is- going to be a romantic comedy based on what we have seen so far." Anyway, I am hoping that Rockstar does not artificially include this level of darkness and drama. The already took themsleves tooo seriously with the story in GTA IV. If they go down this road, I would only believe it if the story were so compelling that it was clearly necessary. Otherwise it's easy to make any story do a dramatic turn by having something bad happen to one of the peripheral characters, case in point being the daughter's suicide attempt in Heat, in my opinion. Hell, maybe after the suicide they could have calculon run in and shout "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" just to really hit it home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyslady Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 Why do people want such a happy story for? This isn't a damn romantic comedy It's not like I want it. But if you look back, would you have imagined having three protagonists? Two of them being in their mid forties, one of them having a family? Everyone who says this isn't GTA shall make up their minds. There isn't such a thing as "this is not GTA". The only thing all games have in common is what the title implies. The ability to steal cars. We already had different stories about a hustler coming up in the crime world. GTA 4 already went into another direction. Would you have imagined the protagonist (Niko) talk with Kate and Packie about how Packie and Gerald were sexually molested or having a gay character as a boss (Tony). I'm not saying I want it. But since Michael has a family and them being the closest people who could possibly mean something to him, it'll be a basis to have such a story twist. Everyone who asks "why the hell she shall do this?", have you imagined a GTA protagonist to have a therapist? It's easy to talk about it now like it ain't no thing, but if someone came up with that idea during GTA 3, like, "hey, what if we have a character who is already 45 years old and sees a shrink once a week?" C'mon, be honest, everybody would have screamed: "Why the hell...this is not GTA." Also, it would be another reference to HEAT. And Rockstar obviously borrowed a lot from it. I'm not saying it will happen. But still, Tracy could do that. We will see when the game is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racecarlock Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Why do people want such a happy story for? This isn't a damn romantic comedy It's not like I want it. But if you look back, would you have imagined having three protagonists? Two of them being in their mid forties, one of them having a family? Everyone who says this isn't GTA shall make up their minds. There isn't such a thing as "this is not GTA". The only thing all games have in common is what the title implies. The ability to steal cars. We already had different stories about a hustler coming up in the crime world. GTA 4 already went into another direction. Would you have imagined the protagonist (Niko) talk with Kate and Packie about how Packie and Gerald were sexually molested or having a gay character as a boss (Tony). I'm not saying I want it. But since Michael has a family and them being the closest people who could possibly mean something to him, it'll be a basis to have such a story twist. Everyone who asks "why the hell she shall do this?", have you imagined a GTA protagonist to have a therapist? It's easy to talk about it now like it ain't no thing, but if someone came up with that idea during GTA 3, like, "hey, what if we have a character who is already 45 years old and sees a shrink once a week?" C'mon, be honest, everybody would have screamed: "Why the hell...this is not GTA." Also, it would be another reference to HEAT. And Rockstar obviously borrowed a lot from it. I'm not saying it will happen. But still, Tracy could do that. We will see when the game is out. I still don't think a randomly thrown in family suicide is a good idea. Again, it just seems like being dark not for the sake of the story or the sake of the gameplay, but just for the sake of being dark. Not a good plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsu Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 What if Tracie gets raped and Michael goes apesh*t on the motherf*cker who did it, maybe even takes Trevor to help him. Then Tracie realizes how much her father cares about her. Or something like that, maybe not so tragic. I bet Michael will get his family together somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyslady Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 I still don't think a randomly thrown in family suicide is a good idea. Again, it just seems like being dark not for the sake of the story or the sake of the gameplay, but just for the sake of being dark. Not a good plan. So having these details about Packie's and Gerald's past (being sexually molested by their father) isn't dark? It wouldn't be randomly thrown in. As for now, everyone who can't see that happen probably only sees the action. Big city, crazy Trevor, minigun is back, planes, explosions, heists. But Michael has a family, you think they're just in there for the f*ck of it? No. There has to be more. And if the only big thing coming up is Amanda cheating on Michael, then Rockstar would have already spoiled a lot. In descriptions we read that Michael doesn't get along with his wife and kids. I can't see how this remains for the whole story. I assume there will be a point when he realizes what he has got and why he left a life of crime. The past titles by Rockstar had a tone of "leave the criminal world behind", in GTA 4 and RDR. It doesn't necessarily have to be Tracy killing herself or just the attempt. But, like I said, it would come in handy, not just being another reference, but something involving Jimmy and Tracy and Michael getting closer to his children, learning that even though he thought he wouldn't, he actually does care. Why include a family? To only have them moan around and getting on your nerves. This might be what it seems at first, and it can be the comic relief at the end of the story, when all enemies are gone and Michael is back home again, that Jimmy and Tracy will still argue (with Michael and amongst each other). I think the story will have something like this. A plot twist where Michael realizes he does care for his family. Hell, we already see that he cares, he otherwise wouldn't knock out that guy who screwed Amanda. GTA V won't only be about robbing people and getting money. There will be a dark tone, as you say, too. It has to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racecarlock Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I still don't think a randomly thrown in family suicide is a good idea. Again, it just seems like being dark not for the sake of the story or the sake of the gameplay, but just for the sake of being dark. Not a good plan. So having these details about Packie's and Gerald's past (being sexually molested by their father) isn't dark? It wouldn't be randomly thrown in. As for now, everyone who can't see that happen probably only sees the action. Big city, crazy Trevor, minigun is back, planes, explosions, heists. But Michael has a family, you think they're just in there for the f*ck of it? No. There has to be more. And if the only big thing coming up is Amanda cheating on Michael, then Rockstar would have already spoiled a lot. In descriptions we read that Michael doesn't get along with his wife and kids. I can't see how this remains for the whole story. I assume there will be a point when he realizes what he has got and why he left a life of crime. The past titles by Rockstar had a tone of "leave the criminal world behind", in GTA 4 and RDR. It doesn't necessarily have to be Tracy killing herself or just the attempt. But, like I said, it would come in handy, not just being another reference, but something involving Jimmy and Tracy and Michael getting closer to his children, learning that even though he thought he wouldn't, he actually does care. Why include a family? To only have them moan around and getting on your nerves. This might be what it seems at first, and it can be the comic relief at the end of the story, when all enemies are gone and Michael is back home again, that Jimmy and Tracy will still argue (with Michael and amongst each other). I think the story will have something like this. A plot twist where Michael realizes he does care for his family. Hell, we already see that he cares, he otherwise wouldn't knock out that guy who screwed Amanda. GTA V won't only be about robbing people and getting money. There will be a dark tone, as you say, too. It has to be. I'm fine with a family bonding event. The suicide one still seems ham-fisted. What if mike and jim (Father and son) rob a bank in their masks and tracy and the wife (I forgot her name) happen to be at that bank? That could make for all kinds of interesting scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guden Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I'm fine with a family bonding event. The suicide one still seems ham-fisted. What if mike and jim (Father and son) rob a bank in their masks and tracy and the wife (I forgot her name) happen to be at that bank? That could make for all kinds of interesting scenarios. Lol why would Jim want to rob a bank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racecarlock Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I'm fine with a family bonding event. The suicide one still seems ham-fisted. What if mike and jim (Father and son) rob a bank in their masks and tracy and the wife (I forgot her name) happen to be at that bank? That could make for all kinds of interesting scenarios. Lol why would Jim want to rob a bank? Well, jim (The son, in case anyone misses that) wants to be "More gangster" and we did see him hanging off of a boat in trailer 2 before being caught by a car michael is driving, so it seems plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyslady Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 I'm fine with a family bonding event. The suicide one still seems ham-fisted. What if mike and jim (Father and son) rob a bank in their masks and tracy and the wife (I forgot her name) happen to be at that bank? That could make for all kinds of interesting scenarios. Yes sure. Could be. Like I said, I don't say Tracy WILL do this. It MIGHT happen. While Michael leaves his family for getting back into a life of crime, his family falls apart. Amanda cheats on him. Jimmy does drugs and hangs around trouble makers. Tracy parties around to compensate that ruined family life she witnesses at home. Maybe she has this suicide attempt, maybe a guy tries to screw her against her will. I'm not begging for it. But everyone needs to realize: Michael has a family and it's not just there for the f*ck of it. There's a reason. And the story will surely involve some drama. And yes kids, go all out with a minigun and try to kill them. I bet you can't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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