I Luke Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Difference between WD and V is that WD actually has more dept to it. It's not the same old missions and the reason why is because of the hacking. That's why I'll be buying WD too. GTA is a simple game but that's why it gets boring after you've done most of the things. I think In the next GTA, they need to switch it up. I'm not going to say which will be better because I haven't played any of them. But like I've said.. I think I'd play WD a lot more because it's more in dept and I'd play V because I've always loved GTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Darko Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Difference between WD and V is that WD actually has more dept to it. It's not the same old missions and the reason why is because of the hacking. That's why I'll be buying WD too. GTA is a simple game but that's why it gets boring after you've done most of the things. I think In the next GTA, they need to switch it up. I'm not going to say which will be better because I haven't played any of them. But like I've said.. I think I'd play WD a lot more because it's more in dept and I'd play V because I've always loved GTA. V seems to be doing some really new stuff for the missions, like letting us do the preparation for the missions, with a lot of choice and very little direction in this area, and being our own bosses for the most part, especially during the main heist missions. That seems to inject a lot of replay value and innovation, so I wouldn't say that V is lacking depth in that regard any moreso than WD. And let's not forget that Ubisoft is basically the king of repetitive game design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtasadude Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Watch Dogs looks awesome, definitely getting it along with GTA V . What I think it's missing the idea of pure "relaxation". Driving through a living world and just exploring at your own pace. Flying through the countryside, driving down a mountain. Little pleasures like this which IV missed but GTA V seems to have in spades. Both look amazing for what they're trying to do, so I can't wait for either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Luke Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Difference between WD and V is that WD actually has more dept to it. It's not the same old missions and the reason why is because of the hacking. That's why I'll be buying WD too. GTA is a simple game but that's why it gets boring after you've done most of the things. I think In the next GTA, they need to switch it up. I'm not going to say which will be better because I haven't played any of them. But like I've said.. I think I'd play WD a lot more because it's more in dept and I'd play V because I've always loved GTA. V seems to be doing some really new stuff for the missions, like letting us do the preparation for the missions and being our bosses for the most part. That seems to inject a lot of replay value and innovation, so I wouldn't say that V is lacking depth in that regard any moreso than WD. And let's not forget that Ubisoft is basically the king of repetitive game design. @ Darko, Like I said, we've heard that we can do those things to some of the missions but we haven't seen any gameplay, we haven't seen how it works. I think apart from that, it will be very similar to older GTA's. I completely agree that V won't be lacking much dept in terms of features but in the story.. I think so. I've really only played the odd Ubisoft game, So I really don't know if they are the king of repetitive game design. It won't feel like that to me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HudS Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Watch_Dogs looks almost as good as GTA 5 does. Ill defenetly buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwinterj Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I'll be buying Watch Dogs for the PS3 as I can live without the small graphics, physics upgrade the PS4 version offers and don't plan on buying a PS4 on day one. I'll wait until a game in next gen only before I buy it for a next gen console as the ones that are cross platform seem nothing more than ports to me. Ports from the current gen version with slight enhancements. The wind for example blows in a straight line on current gen but goes in all direction on PS4. Hardly something that makes me want to rush out day one and buy a PS4. After watching some gameplay of Watch Dogs I really don't think you can compare Watch Dogs to GTA V and if you did GTA V will come at the top. As others have said and I agree most Ubisoft games like this become repetitive. Fun but repetitive none the less. Only time will tell if it's any good but R* already know what the fans want, what works and what doesn't with GTA where as Watch Dogs in a new IP. No chance Watch Dogs will be better. One things for sure though I agree we have a good end of the year coming up with Black Flag, Watch Dogs and GTA V to name a few great games coming out this year. Closer to now though we have The Last of Us and that seems like it could be something close enough to Manhunt to me so that has me excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 One things for sure though I agree we have a good end of the year coming up with Black Flag, Watch Dogs and GTA V to name a few great games coming out this year. Closer to now though we have The Last of Us and that seems like it could be something close enough to Manhunt to me so that has me excited. I've never heard The Last of Us compared to Manhunt before, but I can see where you're coming from in terms of some of the action gameplay we've been shown. My most anticipated games for this year are GTA V, TLOU & WD in that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosquitoSmasher Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Difference between WD and V is that WD actually has more dept to it. It's not the same old missions and the reason why is because of the hacking. That's why I'll be buying WD too. GTA is a simple game but that's why it gets boring after you've done most of the things. I think In the next GTA, they need to switch it up. I'm not going to say which will be better because I haven't played any of them. But like I've said.. I think I'd play WD a lot more because it's more in dept and I'd play V because I've always loved GTA. We'll talk again a few days after WD has been out and people are concluding that this one suffers from the same bad things previous Ubi games did, and that is very tedious missions and that it simply becomes a chore. It has been like that in AC from the start and i don't see it changing drastically all of a sudden in WD. I have no idea how you can say WD has more depth....you seem to be putting a lot of hope in that hacking thing and i'm afraid it'll become a gimmick quicker than you think. If one preview already says it feels like AC's viewpoints....i can already say it's gonna become very tedious. But if not, i'll admit that i was wrong, we'll see. But again, if you think WD has more depth to it than GTA V, i'd like to hear your reasons why. Can't be only the hacking. Cause i could mention the character switching in GTA V for more depth, or the more variety and diversity in missions and so on. I'm kinda sick and tired of Ubi actually. Sick and beyond tired of AC and i don't think i'm even going to bother with Black Flag. Ubi has said AC is a yearly game because it's relevant....what the hell? Oh wow they finally got underwater swimming in it, but guess what..the mechanics are still the same damn boring casual sh*t from last games. Easy as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwinterj Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I've never heard The Last of Us compared to Manhunt before, but I can see where you're coming from in terms of some of the action gameplay we've been shown. Stealth and the "executions" remind me a lot of Manhunt. Maybe not as brutal as Manhunt but close enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHigh11 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Watch_Dogs looks great! Definitely on my wish list. I wouldn't expect too much from it though. I don't expect there will be a whole lot to do in Watch_Dogs aside from the missions. (I noticed the handling of a car looks poor too. ) I expect Watch_Dogs to be like GTA IV in that regard. Great main story focus, great core gameplay, but not much to do aside from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtamann123 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I don't see what makes watch dogs "revolutionary" to me it looks like assassins creed in an urban environment. This is the greatest example of graphic whoredom at its finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Banger Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 I don't see what makes watch dogs "revolutionary" to me it looks like assassins creed in an urban environment. This is the greatest example of graphic whoredom at its finest. It's pretty obvious that you haven't read its previews and/or not watched the demos. Even if you had watched them, you would have probably not paid attention to them. Graphics isn't its only selling point ( In fact, they don't look better than that of BF3's graphics, if not worse. ); the attention to detail, hacking and the sense of life inside the game-world are few of its selling points, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtamann123 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I don't see what makes watch dogs "revolutionary" to me it looks like assassins creed in an urban environment. This is the greatest example of graphic whoredom at its finest. It's pretty obvious that you haven't read its previews and/or not watched the demos. Even if you had watched them, you would have probably not paid attention to them. Graphics isn't its only selling point ( In fact, they don't look better than that of BF3's graphics, if not worse. ); the attention to detail, hacking and the sense of life inside the game-world are few of its selling points, I watched a few of the earlier ones but none of the recent ones because I have no interest in it. Maybe I will watch some of the more recent previews and see if my opinion changes. I'm not a huge fan of assassins creed so that's why I'm not interested. But I guess I should go and look at some of the previews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Luke Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Difference between WD and V is that WD actually has more dept to it. It's not the same old missions and the reason why is because of the hacking. That's why I'll be buying WD too. GTA is a simple game but that's why it gets boring after you've done most of the things. I think In the next GTA, they need to switch it up. I'm not going to say which will be better because I haven't played any of them. But like I've said.. I think I'd play WD a lot more because it's more in dept and I'd play V because I've always loved GTA. We'll talk again a few days after WD has been out and people are concluding that this one suffers from the same bad things previous Ubi games did, and that is very tedious missions and that it simply becomes a chore. It has been like that in AC from the start and i don't see it changing drastically all of a sudden in WD. I have no idea how you can say WD has more depth....you seem to be putting a lot of hope in that hacking thing and i'm afraid it'll become a gimmick quicker than you think. If one preview already says it feels like AC's viewpoints....i can already say it's gonna become very tedious. But if not, i'll admit that i was wrong, we'll see. But again, if you think WD has more depth to it than GTA V, i'd like to hear your reasons why. Can't be only the hacking. Cause i could mention the character switching in GTA V for more depth, or the more variety and diversity in missions and so on. I'm kinda sick and tired of Ubi actually. Sick and beyond tired of AC and i don't think i'm even going to bother with Black Flag. Ubi has said AC is a yearly game because it's relevant....what the hell? Oh wow they finally got underwater swimming in it, but guess what..the mechanics are still the same damn boring casual sh*t from last games. Easy as hell. Like I said in a previous reply, I've not played many of there games so your experience with them is different to mine. I'm not putting a lot of hope into the hacking, it's just that, it'll make it a bit different to the standard "go here, kill few people, pick up money, drive back". Whether V has 3 switchable protags or not, it's still the same. I doubt it will become a gimmick, it looks they've put a lot of work into it. I don't see anything new to V to change up the missions in replay. The reason I said I think WD will have more dept to it is simply because I think there will be a lot of things you can do. It looks like there's more than 1 way to play the game which is more than can be said about GTA. Also, as i've said, I've never really played many Ubisoft games.. It'll be a different experience. I and you haven't played neither of the games so we can't say much but I guarantee V will be the same old same old. No offence or hating on GTA because I've always played GTA but just my Opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Banger Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 I watched a few of the earlier ones but none of the recent ones Then please watch it before commenting. I'm not a huge fan of assassins creed so that's why I'm not interested. But I guess I should go and look at some of the previews. Neither am I. And yes, you need to watch/read the more recent previews ( of which a summary is attached in the OP ) to have a legitimate reason to form concrete opinion. For without having thorough knowledge of both games at hand, forming an opinion isn't the most rational thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rere1love Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) when I first saw this game I was kind of on a wow factor and now I am not quite sure about it, it looks like alot hacking and crap and I think for me it will get old really quick and all I would end up doing is driving around town i will more than likely wate until the game goes on sale then I may purchase at that point I will watch gamers walkthrough videos to if im still interested and purchase at that point maybe. Edited May 11, 2013 by rere1love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDredMan Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I don't really trust Ubisoft anymore, I mean ...They make great stories but they overhype their games so god damn much, Far Cry 3 was barely optimized and the 2 AC games before AC3 were just ...Ugh, AC3 was amazing but so glitchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorsMom Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Watch Dogs will fail. GTA will always be the best sandbox free roam action game. Not even going to waste the money on this Watch Dogs sh*t - Id even f*ckin buy SR4 before that sh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDredMan Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Watch Dogs will fail. GTA will always be the best sandbox free roam action game. Not even going to waste the money on this Watch Dogs sh*t - Id even f*ckin buy SR4 before that sh*t GTA V being good doesn't mean Watch Dogs and SR4 will suck. Watch Dogs might have potential, but might seem to restricted for what it's trying to be, with the modern age's capabilities. Saints Row 4 will be a replica of Saints Row 3, with a few ...Additions, and Saints Row 3 was pretty much only fun in co-op, VERY fun in co-op but sucked at anything else. Saints Row 4 makes you a super hero, more powerful than everyone, which would make the game boring, like taking a modern armory and travelling back in time 1000 years, you would rule, no one would do anything to you... And would get boring after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Banger Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 Watch Dogs will fail. GTA will always be the best sandbox free roam action game. Not even going to waste the money on this Watch Dogs sh*t - Id even f*ckin buy SR4 before that sh*t Are you by any chance..mentally ill? For that would be an excuse for the utter idiocy that you're showing explicitly here. Okay, can you please substantiate your argument with solid evidence(s)? GTA V being good doesn't mean Watch Dogs and SR4 will suck.Watch Dogs might have potential, but might seem to restricted for what it's trying to be, with the modern age's capabilities. Saints Row 4 will be a replica of Saints Row 3, with a few ...Additions, and Saints Row 3 was pretty much only fun in co-op, VERY fun in co-op but sucked at anything else. Saints Row 4 makes you a super hero, more powerful than everyone, which would make the game boring, like taking a modern armory and travelling back in time 1000 years, you would rule, no one would do anything to you... And would get boring after a while If what the developers and the media are portraying are to be believed, then Watch_Dogs is anything but a restricted game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I doubt it will become a gimmick, it looks they've put a lot of work into it. I don't see anything new to V to change up the missions in replay. Then you obviously haven't read the recent previews which tells us about how there are missions that require you to plan it to the last detail, from acquiring all the tools (vehicles, weapons, specialist equipment etc) you'll need, deciding on how you're going to approach it, getaway plans, hiring extra crew members & the fact you'll get to experience each mission from 2 or 3 different perspectives. Of course there will be other more standard missions, but you'd be a fool if you think every mission in WD will have exceptional replay value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I and you haven't played neither of the games so we can't say much but I guarantee V will be the same old same old. You are more or less contradicting yourself. You say that you haven't played neither of the mentioned games, which is understandable because nobody has played them yet as they haven't been released yet, but then you even guarantee that GTAV will be 'the same old'. First, it depends on what you understand under 'same old'. Are you talking about the same repetitive missions like in GTAIV and GTASA where you're basically driving from point A to point B to pass the mission? If yes, then they will always be part of the series. You have to do small things and small [side-] missions that lead to bigger missions. That doesn't make the whole storyline repetitive and also you have to consider another factor; the multiple protagonists system. That is something new in the GTA series in the form as it is now and it makes the storyline more interesting if it's done properly, which will be most likely the case. After all, it's Dan Houser who writes the story so it will be certainly interesting. Second, why are you so sure about how the missions will be fairly like? The multiple protagonists system and so the ability to see a bunch of the missions from multiple point of views will very likely solve the problem of the repetive missions. They will still be included but a lot less common compared to past games. GTAForums Crew Chat Thread - The Sharks Chat Thread - Leone Family Mafia Chat Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHigh11 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Like I said in a previous reply, I've not played many of there games so your experience with them is different to mine.I'm not putting a lot of hope into the hacking, it's just that, it'll make it a bit different to the standard "go here, kill few people, pick up money, drive back". Whether V has 3 switchable protags or not, it's still the same. I doubt it will become a gimmick, it looks they've put a lot of work into it. I don't see anything new to V to change up the missions in replay. The reason I said I think WD will have more dept to it is simply because I think there will be a lot of things you can do. It looks like there's more than 1 way to play the game which is more than can be said about GTA. Also, as i've said, I've never really played many Ubisoft games.. It'll be a different experience. I and you haven't played neither of the games so we can't say much but I guarantee V will be the same old same old. No offence or hating on GTA because I've always played GTA but just my Opinion. All the info we got about the heists looks really promising and not just "go here, kill few people, pick up money, drive back". No, GTA V won't be the same old same old. I expect a very interesting dynamic between the 3 main characters and I'm really excited to plan out heists. Picking out the right crew, weapons and perfect getaway car and then proceeding to be stealthy. Maybe letting someone of your crew distract the police in some other part of the city, maybe someone of your crew can even hack a security camera. I hope the hacking will be great in WD. I hope it doesn't get repetitive. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDredMan Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Watch Dogs will fail. GTA will always be the best sandbox free roam action game. Not even going to waste the money on this Watch Dogs sh*t - Id even f*ckin buy SR4 before that sh*t Are you by any chance..mentally ill? For that would be an excuse for the utter idiocy that you're showing explicitly here. Okay, can you please substantiate your argument with solid evidence(s)? GTA V being good doesn't mean Watch Dogs and SR4 will suck.Watch Dogs might have potential, but might seem to restricted for what it's trying to be, with the modern age's capabilities. Saints Row 4 will be a replica of Saints Row 3, with a few ...Additions, and Saints Row 3 was pretty much only fun in co-op, VERY fun in co-op but sucked at anything else. Saints Row 4 makes you a super hero, more powerful than everyone, which would make the game boring, like taking a modern armory and travelling back in time 1000 years, you would rule, no one would do anything to you... And would get boring after a while If what the developers and the media are portraying are to be believed, then Watch_Dogs is anything but a restricted game. It's not gonna be restricted in general, but it IS gonna be restricted for what it's aiming to be. A game where you can control anything and everything. In the PS4 demo, he triggered some stuff that went together perfectly, but if you look closely, those are only in those certain spots. So when playing the game for free roam, a lot of the times you're not gonna be as lucky as they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3ex2 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 If you love WD so damn much why don't you go to one of it's forums? Fs, nobody knew about the game a year ago, nobody has played it and now all of a sudden it's better than GTA V? We haven't played either game but I'm betting on Watch Dogs not living up to the hype. I might buy it second hand once the price has dropped. Not interested in it that much. This is a GTA forum. Sick of seeing these stupid watch dogs posts. Just leave if that's what you want to talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaEvolution Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Watch Dogs's multiplayer doesn't appeal to me at all. Single player looks good but it's a new I.P so could go either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtamann123 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 If you love WD so damn much why don't you go to one of it's forums? Fs, nobody knew about the game a year ago, nobody has played it and now all of a sudden it's better than GTA V? We haven't played either game but I'm betting on Watch Dogs not living up to the hype. I might buy it second hand once the price has dropped. Not interested in it that much. This is a GTA forum. Sick of seeing these stupid watch dogs posts. Just leave if that's what you want to talk about. Yeah I think it's way overhyped as well. I can still remember this time last year with people talking about how sleeping dogs is going to be the GTA V killer XD and that obviously didn't happen. It will probably be a good game but probably not as half as good as people are saying it will be. But I agree and I may get it once the price drops to about $20 because then it's cheap enough to justify buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny_zoo Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 The thing with the hacking feature is I think there is a danger that we will be given too much power and it will become boring after a while. Imagine being the only one in the city that can hack. That effectively makes you invincible and lowers the difficulty and more importantly fun fighting against antagonist characters. Right now it doesn't look like a balance has been set. Its only Aiden Pearce that can hack things in that world and I think it would be better if at some point that power is taken away or someone else can do it to equal the scales of good/bad. Theres nothing worse in openworld games where you feel too powerful and like your the only one in the world that acts up, shoots people, robs a bank, gets into police chases. IV rectified this a little where you see people getting arrested, placing things into their trunks, broken down and whatnot. This was good but I expect a greater set of situations on the same level of the main character. Not sure how to define what this problem is, its hard, protagonist over-empowerment to disengaged pedestrian ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwinterj Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Like I said in a previous reply, I've not played many of there games so your experience with them is different to mine. I can see where you are coming from if you are sorta new to Ubisoft games you possibly would feel this way. I respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIllaDopest Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Well i feel its gonna suck mainly because Ubisoft already released a lot of gameplay previews to hype it up. When companies do this its cuz they have no faith in the product. I mean we barely saw gameplay in V (yes some of the trailers were gameplay) and from what I've seen, V will dominate all games coming out the next few years...... Plus idk if WD has animals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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