Exciting times ahead!

[DWTDevil]

I'll definitely get Watch_Dogs, it looks superb. There's just not a chance in hell that I could favour it over GTA V.

 

It's all too complex for me at the minute with this hacking business. Hack this, hack that. Hack away to your heart's content. In GTA V there's none of that. There's fun guaranteed everywhere you see.

[Pleasure_Pier]

Wd looks like a totally different game and for a different age group. When will stupid people stop comparing two different things?

 

[Big Danny K]

I'll pre order it when it'll be available on Steam, since GTA V is not coming to PC yet, Watch_Dogs looks like a great replacement while I wait for GTA V to be released on the PC

..And why? That is the point of the thread.

Watch_Dogs looks like a great game and I'm interested in playing it, but still, I'm waiting for the PC version of GTA V, so... That's why...

[Ferocious Banger]

 

I'll pre order it when it'll be available on Steam, since GTA V is not coming to PC yet, Watch_Dogs looks like a great replacement while I wait for GTA V to be released on the PC

..And why? That is the point of the thread.

Watch_Dogs looks like a great game and I'm interested in playing it, but still, I'm waiting for the PC version of GTA V, so... That's why...

Again. Why is it a great game?

 

I'd love people who participate in this to validate their opinions in an objective manner. Is WD better than GTAV in your opinion? Or is GTAV better? Validate you reasons too.

[Killerdude]

Why're you posting Watch Dogs stuff in the V forum section?

This belongs in Gaming..

 

[guitarviking]

As much as I am looking forward to Watch_dogs, I can't help but feel it suffers from the AC syndrome.

 

You have ONE thing you do, and that you do over and over and over and over and over. (Parkour in AC, hacking sh*t in Watch_dogs.)

 

With the driving and all that, it might be different, and I really do hope so.

 

 

 

Looking forward to both games, but GTA V is on top of my list! :b

[cuoreviola89]

Watch Dogs cool features:

 

- hacking

- open world (but I don't thnik it will be very big looking at the amount of details, maybe same size of Gta IV)

- PARKOUR style! Gta doesn't have any character able to jump and climb with so much style.

- city built also vertically, while i think gta's Los Santos exploration will be pretty much horizontal

- Chasings. From what they showed us, they seem to be very interesting combined with the hacking ability.

- realistic world

- serious and believable story

 

What doesn't seem good to me:

 

- Car phisics and driving style.

- Lack of variety

- Shooting system

 

 

About the good things we'll find in GtaV, we can just believe what they told us and base on screenshots and trailers, which is very different from watching whole minutes of actual gameplay. Anyway:

 

- HUGE open world

- Incredible variety in it (from mountains to undersea, passing through cities, forests and deserts)

- Greatest amount of weapons and cars ever, plus planes, boats, bikes etc

- Greater variety: minigames, possibility to buy houses, apartaments, business, random events, collectibles, skill leveling etc

- Humor + Serious stuff. A good balance between matureness and recknessless.

- Good graphics (but WD seem to be slightly better, surely more realistic)

 

Honestly at the moment it seems impossible to find weak points in GtaV, mainly because we couldnt see any real gameplay, so we can't have an idea of how driving, shooting, characters animations ect will be.

 

 

The perfect game IN MY OPINION would be GtaV with WD graphics and WD protagonist (with all his hacking and parkour skills) as a fourth playable character.

Edited May 11, 2013 by cuoreviola89

[Miss Darko]

Watch Dogs looks good, and I plan on making it my first next-gen purchase (or for a new gaming PC, I'm not sure which I'll spring for but it won't be for a while). I won't bother with the curren-gen version just because I know it'll probably be pretty stripped down in comparison, but I can expect the next-gen version of Watch Dogs to make use of the next-gen consoles' capabilities, and in those ways it will be superior to V. The graphics are better from a technical perspective (but this is to be expected as they're showing the next-gen version so far) although V has more style to it.

 

But I know that V will superior overall, and that it will be the game I'll be playing years from now. So the choice is obvious if you ask me which I think it'll be better, but I don't hate the competition. I hope GTA VI takes a bit from it and improves even further.

 

Although Ubisoft also tends to make their games seem a lot better than they end up being, while R* really delivers. Assassins Creed 2 is the only Ubi game I really, really enjoyed as much as I was hoping to.

Edited May 11, 2013 by Mr. Darko

[johnny_zoo]

Glad you started this thread Ferocious as I was planning on doing it myself.

 

Ill come right out and say it. GTA V is the better open-world game here. Ill break it down into sections and analyze it that way.

 

 

Graphics - Watch Dogs

As for now WD wins here for me. The graphics look really clean and clear with some good AA and depth of field. Of course the previews were on a high end PC so we don't really know what the console version looks like. The textures seem very high res which unfortunately is not existent on the screens we've seen of GTAV. It looks like Rockstar North are using 1024x1024. Whats up with that? Theres no excuse. To be honest I cant imagine WD graphics looking that much less stellar on the console version when we finally see it. The game engines are completely different so may be that's the reason? They are both open-world games yet GTAV's graphics looks decidedly dated, and dare I say childish, next to Watch Dogs.

 

 

Gameplay - GTAV

GTAV is better by a mile because you can switch from three characters who each have their own story, personality, location and side activities. You can engage in triathlons,play golf, scuba dive, kill sharks, buy houses, mountain bike, fly jets etc etc. I highly doubt you can buy properties, or do any of these things in WD. Not to judge Aiden Pearce before hes had a chance but he doesn't seem to have that kind of personality that would warrant this stuff.

 

The one thing which draws me in to WD, from what we've seen, is the gunplay mechanics and on foot chases and situations that apparently are dynamically controlled by you. The animations seem really fluid and fast something I hope is done in GTAV. Look at Pearce chasing that guy and jumping a fence by using the wall first. That is awesome. Moving from cover to cover is more smooth, when he leapt over that car and shot the guy in the face. Excellent stuff.

 

Details

This is tough GTAV has always been about the details but Watch Dogs are giving them a run for our money.

I got to be honest Watch Dogs looks like a more aesthetically pleasing game. When Pearce is walking down the street his mac drapes and flaps in the breeze. And is even more pronounced when he starts to run. Trash cans and leaves sweep across the street with force and roll to a stop. The wind effects here are miles better than GTAV here to be honest and its delicious. I don't even think wind effects were hardly present in IV if at all. I know wind plays a greater role in V but we haven't seen anything on Watchdogs scale from the trailers.

 

Also lastly notice in Watch Dogs the trees on the sidewalk sway violently in huge gusts. Trees barely moved an inch in GTAV not to mention the textures were cheap and flat. GTAV needs to step their game up this around to compete with this. I hope they do.

 

Peds seem lifelike and each have their own personality it seems and a little back-story which you can interact with via your phone. GTA's closest brush with this was random ped encounters which are few and far between. Other than that there was no ped interaction.

 

Tone - GTAV

Which game has the better tone? Well that depends on your opinion and personal preference. Personally I think GTAV is superior because it is warmer and more inviting. This is a welcome change especially after the occasionally depressive story in IV. I mean there will be warm desert sunsets spreading dappled light across sand dunes. Characters talking to therapists, playing golf in the noonday sun and cruising the mountain peaks on a dirt bike with a cool soundtrack on the radio. This tone wont be replicated in WD.

Main characters that have a sense of humour and interesting back story's. Aiden Pearce I can imagine spent his entire childhood in his basement hacking into internet forums and government servers because his mom said no pizza before dinner. That's about as much as I can think for a backstory.

 

 

Whatever happens its gonna be interesting Autumn period for gaming and to see how each game fairs against the other. I cant say Watch Dogs will not make an impression on many, it will. But I don't think it will be enough to take GTAV's open-world crown.

[MosquitoSmasher]

When they showed WD for the first time last year i was blown away, it looked fantastic. It doesn't look quite like that anymore. Still it has promise, but oh boy i do not get the hype about this game. Its all set in one city, so it better provide plenty of interiors and plenty of depth and diversity in missions. But some preview already said that the hacking of buildings feels similar to AC's viewpoints and in my opinion that turned into a very tedious chore and the same can be said about the outposts/watchtowers in FC3. Fun at first, becomes tedious after a few. I expect GTA V to offer so much more and i think we already know it will, look at all the returning features from GTA:SA and the new ones. A freaking countryside full of wildllife and random things.

 

I also very much prefer GTA V's colourful look over the realistic and almost BF3'ish look. In the starting post i read there's like 100 missions or whatsoever, but i don't consider that a good thing nessecarily, because it's Ubi, and they are very good at making horribly boring missions that become again...tedious and a chore. All sidemissions in FC3 were sh*t, as much as i love that game, the sidemissions were nothing. I honestly wonder what they are going to bring the player in terms of missions to keep things interesting. So no, i fully disagree that it could potentially be better than GTA V. Maybe for some, but not for me. When i get to explore a countryside with wildlife, observing people doing their things, customize my vehicles and weapons, buy properties and upgrade them or sell/rent them, when i get to switch between three characters and so on....no way in hell WD could be better for me.

 

Oh and i forgot to mention the handling of cars which honestly looks pretty damn uninteresting in the WD videos so far. You'd think otherwise, seeing as the developers of Driver SF are behind the cars and handling in WD, could still change though. But what i want these people and media to explain to me is...HOW could this top GTA V, after all the things i mentioned that are in GTA V and much more...how? What can it possibly have to offer that will be topping GTA V? So far i've not seen it, what i HAVE seen is Ubi slowly ruining their games. Rainbow Six Vegas 1 was awesome, 2 not so much. They IMO RAPED Ghost Recon with Future Soldier. Assasin's Creed? Only II was very good and III had its nice moments but mostly it has gone downhill. Then there's Splinter Cell, Conviction a huge let down, Blacklist remains to be seen. Sorry...GTA V all the way.

Edited May 11, 2013 by MosquitoSmasher

[Big Danny K]

I'll pre order it when it'll be available on Steam, since GTA V is not coming to PC yet, Watch_Dogs looks like a great replacement while I wait for GTA V to be released on the PC

..And why? That is the point of the thread.

Watch_Dogs looks like a great game and I'm interested in playing it, but still, I'm waiting for the PC version of GTA V, so... That's why...

Again. Why is it a great game?

 

I'd love people who participate in this to validate their opinions in an objective manner. Is WD better than GTAV in your opinion? Or is GTAV better? Validate you reasons too.

Oh, now I get you... Sorry, too tired...

First, WD is coming to PC alongside the consoles, unlike GTA V, which will leave PC gamers to wait and rot for 6 months

Second, WD released gameplay footage, so I know what it'll look like

That's why I like WD more than GTA V at this point of time

If Rockstar will decide NOT to let the PC crowd rot for 6 months, but "only" for 2-3 months, then GTA V is back on top of my favorite games....

Peace out, I'm off to nap for a while

[jamieleng]

I haven't been keeping up with WD. Is there any aerial vehicles, aquatic vehicles or even motorbikes in the game?

[johnny_zoo]

I haven't been keeping up with WD. Is there any aerial vehicles, aquatic vehicles or even motorbikes in the game?

Not that we've seen no.

[jamieleng]

I haven't been keeping up with WD. Is there any aerial vehicles, aquatic vehicles or even motorbikes in the game?

Not that we've seen no.

That's disappointing. Then again, I'll be amazed if they get the car handling right. Ubisoft's open world games have been mainly 'on foot' (AC & FC) & the horses in AC handled like crap.

[Miss Darko]

 

I haven't been keeping up with WD. Is there any aerial vehicles, aquatic vehicles or even motorbikes in the game?

Not that we've seen no.

That's disappointing. Then again, I'll be amazed if they get the car handling right. Ubisoft's open world games have been mainly 'on foot' (AC & FC) & the horses in AC handled like crap.

Indeed, if I get Watch Dogs I'll probably be doing most of my traveling parkouring, since that's where the effort's going.

[jamieleng]

I haven't been keeping up with WD. Is there any aerial vehicles, aquatic vehicles or even motorbikes in the game?

Not that we've seen no.

That's disappointing. Then again, I'll be amazed if they get the car handling right. Ubisoft's open world games have been mainly 'on foot' (AC & FC) & the horses in AC handled like crap.

Indeed, if I get Watch Dogs I'll probably be doing most of my traveling parkouring, since that's where the effort's going.

Well they don't really need to start from scratch with that aspect of the game, unlike the vehicle handling.

 

Why do I get the feeling that all the good ideas intended for Assassin's Creed, were used for this game instead.

[Miss Darko]

^

It's kinda what I was hoping AS3 would be, in modern times with Desmond. The series just seemed to be leading up to that, to the guy having his own game. Maybe it's for the best, though. Desmond was kind of a weak character.

[Darrel]

I'm tired of concrete jungle. It looks good, if you like this sort of thing but i can really imagine it getting very boring quickly. All ubisoft games do.

 

They really look like two completely different games.

[Ferocious Banger]

Good posts by cuoreviola89 , Mr Darko Mosquitosmaher and Johnny_Zoo.

 

This will be interesting so long as the fanboys of both section avoid this thread.

Edited May 11, 2013 by Ferocious Banger

[MizzouRah16]

Adam Sessler is the man. Glad to see him doing something after the legendary X-Play.

[johnny_zoo]

@jamieleng

From what we've seen the driving is not that bad. It looks like the cornering is arcade like and theres not much sway and roll going around corners check out the new preview. IV was pretty terrible only because cornering hurt my fingers terribly.

Edited May 11, 2013 by johnny_zoo

[Andreas]

Watch Dogs and GTAV are both going to be great games, I don't think that there's any doubt. I think it's hard to compare them with each other, because even though they are both openworld games, the theme differs a lot and the target of each game differs too. GTAV is most likely the last Rockstar title this console generation, although that does not include possible spin-offs. Two prime examples from the past console generation would be GTA Liberty City Stories, which was a spin-off of GTA III, and GTA Vice City Stories, which was a spin-off of Vice City. Anyway, from all the previews so far, we know that V will include countless improvements of Rockstar titles that have been released since GTA IV in 2008. Watch Dogs on the other hand is possibly the start of a new game series and even if not, it's not based on an already existing franchise from Ubisoft.

 

But they still can apply the experience they have from other openworld games they have created, even if only to a certain extent. It definitely does have potencial and the snippets that are listed in the first post show how detailed the game is when it comes to the even smallest features. One problem though is that Ubisoft tends to show their games from the best side which usually leads to disappointment. So you never know if the game is overhyped or if there's really more behind it. Overall, I'm sure that GTAV will be the bigger and better game but that doesn't mean that it's the only game out there you can enjoy. Don't compare every single aspect of both games with each other, enjoy them for what they are.

Edited May 11, 2013 by Carl CJ Johnsons Brother Brian

[jamieleng]

^

It's kinda what I was hoping AS3 would be, in modern times with Desmond. The series just seemed to be leading up to that, to the guy having his own game. Maybe it's for the best, though. Desmond was kind of a weak character.

I was literally going to write exactly what you put, word for word. That was clearly what the AC franchise was leading up to, but the success of the second game put paid to to that. From then on it was an exercise in extracting as much cash as possible, with the least amount of effort.

[MosquitoSmasher]

Way i see it, after Ubi has been milking the AC cow BAD, they have to prove that WD is worth buying. The concept is really good and original too, although taken straight from Person of Interest, but the execution remains to be seen.

[Raavi]

I fear for Watch Dogs to turn into another Ubisoft debacle. As you might recall, AC3 looked very promising as well. But it turned out to be a bug filled, mistake drenched debacle. Now I'm not going to argue that Watch Dogs is doomed to be a failure just because it's under Ubisoft wings, as that would be first class conjecture which I'm not a fan of. I do however want to argue that there is a huge difference between Ubisoft and Rockstar Games as a company which will translate to both final products.. Rockstar Games games are considered the holy grail, yes plural, of gaming. While Ubisoft has more ups and downs than the average Stock Exchange IPO. Now I am ware that this is a very basal and non conclusive approach to the question at hand, but at this point I'm not able to compose an objective and well substantiated prognosis, as I quit frankly don't have enough and/or inconclusive statistics that would make me lean one way or the other. So for now it still can go both ways.

 

In short. My preliminary prognosis is as follows: Both WD and GTA V can come out on top, there is no information, nothing whatsoever that tells me that one or the other will be the victor and or better game.

Edited May 11, 2013 by Raavi

[phillipshead]

For me it is simple. NOT ONE LAUGH. The entire watchdogs preview - not one. So, STORY. The developer was boring, and the story as shown was not compelling. Gotta be more than just game play. GTA has that.

[The Milkman]

 

I haven't been keeping up with WD. Is there any aerial vehicles, aquatic vehicles or even motorbikes in the game?

Not that we've seen no.

Motorbikes are in and useable.

 

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[MuXu96]

I don't get it. You can't just start a debatte about watch dogs vs GTA V in a GTA forum dude.. you should know how the internet works in such situations..

 

I won't say much, even tho both are open world games, you can't really compare them.

[johnny_zoo]

I fear for Watch Dogs to turn into another Ubisoft debacle. As you might recall, AC3 looked very promising as well. But it turned out to be a bug filled, mistake drenched debacle. Now I'm not going to argue that Watch Dogs is doomed to be a failure just because it's under Ubisoft wings, as that would be first class conjecture which I'm not a fan of. I do however want to argue that there is a huge difference between Ubisoft and Rockstar Games as a company which will translate to both final products.. Rockstar Games games are considered the holy grail, yes plural, of gaming. While Ubisoft has more ups and downs than the average Stock Exchange IPO. Now I am ware that this is a very basal and non conclusive approach to the question at hand, but at this point I'm not able to compose an objective and well substantiated prognosis, as I quit frankly don't have enough and/or inconclusive statistics that would make me lean one way or the other. So for now it still can go both ways.

 

In short. My preliminary prognosis is as follows: Both WD and GTA V can come out on top, there is no information, nothing whatsoever that tells me that one or the other will be the victor and or better game.

I get where you're coming from with the lack of information about each game. I came up against that wall when arguing my point but I still would have liked to see some thoughts based on the info we already have of each game.

 

Have you not seen the list of things that can be done in V? I can name a few features highly likely to be absent in WD. Submarines, dirt bikes, triathlons, skydiving, customization of cars and heists. To name a few. I cant see this stuff being put in WD since it doesnt fit its tone.

[Marlo-Lionches]

All i know is my gaming will be great from september - february, 2-3 months of gta, and 2-3 months of watch dogs.

 

No more stressful fifa for me.