Can this end the LS is small argument?

[œaœa]

Taken from the mapping thread, I thought it deserved more attention. Credits go to RusUpdate.

 

 

Skyline is in the middle for those who can't see.

[GrandMaster Smith]

Honestly it's not very easy to see anything at all. It's shot with a very wide angle, if those are houses/buildings on the right rather than just apart of the airport then it does look pretty large.

[MrSpooge]

Never knew there was an argument that LS was small, mainly because nobody has played the game.

[wwinterj]

From the screens we have seen I do get a feeling the city is small however once I play the game I'm confident that will change because it's hard to tell the sense of scale from screens.

[jamieleng]

Never knew there was an argument that LS was small, mainly because nobody has played the game.

Like that stops anyone.

[Shteeve McClaren]

Yeah, after seeing all the screens, the city looks like it's the size of LS as featured in SA. I would love to be proven otherwise (this screen doesn't show anything really), but that's really how big it looks like to me.

[MrSpooge]

The only thing people need to get through there head if they think this is to go and play SA, come back, then re-read what Rockstar said about it being 3+x Times the Size. Then stfu.

[Official General]

No disrespect but.....

 

I cannot see how this proves to me that Los Santos in GTA is very big.

 

I don't understand the map, I cannot make nothing from it to come to your conclusion.

[Above]

No disrespect but.....

 

I cannot see how this proves to me that Los Santos in GTA is very big.

 

I don't understand the map, I cannot make nothing from it to come to your conclusion.

I was just going to post the same thing. I don't really get it.

[œaœa]

All I am saying is look how far away the city is from LAX. That, and we can't even see the southern mountains that surround the ghetto.

[Liberty2k7]

A lot of the people who think LS is small are assuming that the majority of the city is the Downtown and Vinewood areas. I'm not an expert on Los Angeles and I haven't been there but I do know that in real life the city is much more than that, and I doubt we've seen the whole scope of the city. there is South Central and suburb areas and lots more, Rockstar are only showing us what they want us to see, there will be plenty to discover.

[wwinterj]

The only thing people need to get through there head if they think this is to go and play SA, come back, then re-read what Rockstar said about it being 3+x Times the Size. Then stfu.

What a reassuring post. I guess that's us told!

Wasn't aware you've played the game. What's that? You haven't? Oh right in that case take your own advise STFU and respect other peoples opinions Mr hardcore keyboard warrior. My opinion is based on what we have seen your opinion is based on what someone has wrote. You see the difference? As I said until we play the game we won't know. Until then it's fair game and anyone can think what they please.

 

[Poedersuiker]

3.5 times RDR isnt small.

Even the city LS is bigger then Liberty city.

[Neckbeard]

 

All I am saying is look how far away the city is from LAX. That, and we can't even see the southern mountains that surround the ghetto.

That's because of the extremely wide angle

Los Santos looks anything but big right now but we haven't seen much of the south side of it so it's too early to make assumptions

[Kiffster]

I don't really get why people still say LS is small. From what I've seen since trailer 1, it looks like one of the biggest cities ever in gta. But that's just me... oh well...

[solofme]

Never knew there was an argument that LS was small, mainly because nobody has played the game.

I don't understand why there is a discussion, none of us have seen the map or played the game so we simply have to wait and see

[MrSpooge]

The only thing people need to get through there head if they think this is to go and play SA, come back, then re-read what Rockstar said about it being 3+x Times the Size. Then stfu.

What a reassuring post. I guess that's us told!

Wasn't aware you've played the game. What's that? You haven't? Oh right in that case take your own advise STFU and respect other peoples opinions Mr hardcore keyboard warrior. My opinion is based on what we have seen your opinion is based on what someone has wrote. You see the difference? As I said until we play the game we won't know. Until then it's fair game and anyone can think what they please.

Maybe you should learn to read because if you scroll up a bit to the top, before you even posted I pretty much quoted your "TILL YOU PLAY THE GAME" and as for being a Hardcore Keyboard Warrior? Right, you've got a very strange idea of what one actually is do you, as if I am threatening to murder your family with an axe and feed there grinded up meat to my pet ferret Jeffery. Yeah, sure.. People can think whatever they please, but if you've got no idea. Want to go around saying it's small, with you contradicting yourself with the whole "WE DON'T KNOW" quote then maybe you should seriously.. STFU?

[Above]

People also need to take into account that the picture is taken at the airport runway. Can that really be considered as part of the "city"?

[DS 17]

Is there a bigger version of this panorama view?

 

Just found one here: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5646/121831...98a81e_orig.jpg

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...st&p=1062486978

[wwinterj]

Yeah, sure.. People can think whatever they please, but if you've got no idea. Want to go around saying it's small, with you contradicting yourself with the whole "WE DON'T KNOW" quote then maybe you should seriously.. STFU?

Acting hardcore is simply saying "stfu" to make yourself seem like a badass when it doesn't make your points any more valid and in truth makes you come across as a kid. Maybe that's what you are and if that's the case then I expect no better. If you're a adult though that's really pathetic.

 

Furthermore please point me to where I said the city was small? All I see is me saying "I get the felling" meaning just that. I don't state my opinion as fact when I clearly don't know if it is. Maybe you should take your advise again and learn to read.

[GTA-Addicted]

 

All I am saying is look how far away the city is from LAX. That, and we can't even see the southern mountains that surround the ghetto.

I thought the argument some people have over here is that the city of LS itself was small, not the state of San Andreas

 

But indeed, you cannot argue about something if you don't know the true size of something

[nigelhere9901]

LS isn't small, it's just that the Countryside is too big, LS could have been way more big.

[MrSpooge]

Yeah, sure.. People can think whatever they please, but if you've got no idea. Want to go around saying it's small, with you contradicting yourself with the whole "WE DON'T KNOW" quote then maybe you should seriously.. STFU?

Acting hardcore is simply saying "stfu" to make yourself seem like a badass when it doesn't make your points any more valid and in truth makes you come across as a kid. Maybe that's what you are and if that's the case then I expect no better. If you're a adult though that's really pathetic.

 

Furthermore please point me to where I said the city was small? All I see is me saying "I get the felling" meaning just that. I don't state my opinion as fact when I clearly don't know if it is. Maybe you should take your advise again and learn to read.

Adult? No, not quite.. Haven't got a over inflated ego, or some sort of internet pride either. No, you never said "It's Small" You based your opinion, sure. No harm done there, but who I was quoting the "STFU" at was the consistent users who say "IT IS". Your obviously not one of them, so I am sorry for well.. Being wrong.. but but but, with that said I wasn't trying to act like a Hardcore Keyboard Warrior, nor as well did I feel the urge to off on being a giant smart ass who comes up with lines and paragraphs like

 

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What a reassuring post. I guess that's us told!

Wasn't aware you've played the game. What's that? You haven't? Oh right in that case take your own advise STFU and respect other peoples opinions Mr hardcore keyboard warrior.

 

Don't get some defensive, oh.. And I don't have to play the game to know. Because our "opinions" of what small is, would be way off as well.

[chocotaco33]

Yeah, sure.. People can think whatever they please, but if you've got no idea. Want to go around saying it's small, with you contradicting yourself with the whole "WE DON'T KNOW" quote then maybe you should seriously.. STFU?

Acting hardcore is simply saying "stfu" to make yourself seem like a badass when it doesn't make your points any more valid and in truth makes you come across as a kid. Maybe that's what you are and if that's the case then I expect no better. If you're a adult though that's really pathetic.

 

Furthermore please point me to where I said the city was small? All I see is me saying "I get the felling" meaning just that. I don't state my opinion as fact when I clearly don't know if it is. Maybe you should take your advise again and learn to read.

Stfu, there, I said it. And I'm not a kid. I have 3 of them actually. Now go get your f*ckin shine box!

[wwinterj]

 

No, you never said "It's Small" You based your opinion, sure. No harm done there, but who I was quoting the "STFU" at was the consistent users who say "IT IS". Your obviously not one of them, so I am sorry for well.. Being wrong.. but but but, with that said I wasn't trying to act like a Hardcore Keyboard Warrior, nor as well did I feel the urge to off on being a giant smart ass who comes up with lines and paragraphs like

 

Don't get some defensive, oh.. And I don't have to play the game to know. Because our "opinions" of what small is, would be way off as well.

Fair enough fella. No harm done. I respect your opinion as it's anyone guess.

 

 

Stfu, there, I said it. And I'm not a kid. I have 3 of them actually. Now go get your f*ckin shine box!

 

You must put money in my box everytime you say a bad word mister!

[zainzombie]

 

LS isn't small, it's just that the Countryside is too big, LS could have been way more big.

THIS! Los Santos may very well be bigger than LC and its a pretty good size even if it is as big as LC (and not bigger). Nothing to complain about but as compared to the rest of the map (in fan-made maps which CVG said was closer to how the game looks),, it looks small and unbalanced.

 

Im not complaining though. I love countryside, forests and different variety but as far as I can tell, LS city looks smaller COMPARED TO the rest of the map.

[Andreas]

 

Yeah, after seeing all the screens, the city looks like it's the size of LS as featured in SA.

Los Santos in San Andreas had a total area of around 3 square miles which equals the size of Liberty City in GTA III. Judging by the screenshots and the trailers we got so far, the city definitely looks bigger than that. According to the Game Informer Q&A, Los Santos covers more square footage but the downtown area is smaller than the one of Liberty City, which is understandable because the downtown area of New York is also more dense than the one of Los Angeles.

[BeardedxMic]

Never knew there was an argument that LS was small, mainly because nobody has played the game.

Since when has that ever stopped anyone?

[MrSpooge]

Never knew there was an argument that LS was small, mainly because nobody has played the game.

Since when has that ever stopped anyone?

Never has, people still question God and Jesus, but they've got no proof.. They've got a book, while with GTA.. We've got pictures.. Like.. Hmmm, might just stop now..

[CalgaryJay]

 

A lot of the people who think LS is small are assuming that the majority of the city is the Downtown and Vinewood areas. I'm not an expert on Los Angeles and I haven't been there but I do know that in real life the city is much more than that, and I doubt we've seen the whole scope of the city. there is South Central and suburb areas and lots more, Rockstar are only showing us what they want us to see, there will be plenty to discover.

This. People judging L.A./LS by its downtown core have no clue how the majority of western North American cities are laid out. It's very different from the Eastern Seaboard U.S. cities, or major European ones, where they have a very large downtown core as the hub of the city.

 

I've been to L.A. a couple times, and the first time I went, I was shocked at how small their skyline was considering its the 2nd largest city in the U.S., especially after visiting the Eastern cities first (NY, Chicago, Philly, Boston, D.C., etc etc - we did a huge road trip where we drove around the perimeter of the U.S.). In the west its all about urban sprawl (Phoenix is the same, as are others), and L.A. is about as urban sprawl as it gets, takes absolutely forever to drive across greater L.A. & it's surrounding areas, like a couple hours even, maybe more.

 

There's sooo much more to L.A. than just its downtown core, and its so spread out that each area feels like its own city, even with its own environment (Santa Monica/Venice, etc is a whole different world from, say, Hollywood, or East L.A.). L.A.(LS) isn't NY(LC) with its skyscrapers, get over it. It's going to be a massively spread out city.