HEISTS, HEISTS AND MORE HEISTS. WHAT ELSE ?

[Revolution-XW]

You are aware that arms-trafficking has been confirmed as a side activity, right?

Yeah I am, and that's great. I just hope there is one for drugs. LA and Southern California is a major drug market region and Mexican cartels are major there, I want this reflected in the game.

I could see drug trafficking or at least managing it happening, but dealing on the other hand, not so much. As it doesn't really fit with the overarching narrative. There is a reason franklin wants to get out of the gangsta criminal lifestyle. The big money is elsewhere.

Although I can see him car dealing as well.

 

Hell, all we need now is for Trevor to start c*ck dealing.

[wwinterj]

R* have shown so little and talked about even less. We only know a very small bit about the game so no I'm not worried. As others have said each character will have there own story with heists been the climax points of the game.

[Official General]

You are aware that arms-trafficking has been confirmed as a side activity, right?

Yeah I am, and that's great. I just hope there is one for drugs. LA and Southern California is a major drug market region and Mexican cartels are major there, I want this reflected in the game.

I could see drug trafficking or at least managing it happening, but dealing on the other hand, not so much. As it doesn't really fit with the overarching narrative. There is a reason franklin wants to get out of the gangsta criminal lifestyle. The big money is elsewhere.

Lool are you saying what I think you are saying ?

 

Drug-dealing and gangbangin' are NOT exactly the same thing. One does not have to be in a gang to sell drugs. Of course it can fit in with the narrative. Drug-dealing could just be another way for Franklin to make some extra money in addition to other side activities and missions like robbing stores and diving underwater for treasure.

 

And he could always graduate to a higher level of drug trafficking and make even more big money. Create his own drug business as a regular source of income. That would be brilliant.

[Dick Valor]

The most recent screenshots of GTA V are amazing, and preview information given so far, is excellent news. Right now GTA V is shaping to be possibly one of the greatest GTA games yet. So far, so great.

 

Now, I know the central theme of the game is centered on major heists and robberies. But that is all I seem to hear about in information about the gameplay. Don't me wrong, I love the idea of planning major heists and I very excited to hear that robbing stores has come back. But have not yet heard of other criminal activities that are available to us. I want variety in the criminal activities and operations that we carry out, too much of the same thing will obviously get tedious, monotonous and repetitive.

 

What about drugs ? I have not heard any mention of drug-dealing or drug trafficking activity in the game, and this is very surprising, since the game is based on LA and Southern California, which in real life, is a region that is a hotbed for drug trafficking and drug markets, especially coming in from Mexico. I have not anything about this, I was hoping to see stuff like this.

 

I really do not want GTA V to get stale in many sections of the storyline and gameplay, because that was happened with GTA IV when Rockstar focused too much on hitman missions for Niko's character. As a result, many people felt IV was a bit repetitive and stale. V needs to avoid this by providing more variety in the criminal actions of the protagonists.

 

Anyone else think about this ? Discuss

OG, I see where you're coming from. Your criticism of IV is valid: you mostly work as a hit man and car thief and, unfortunately, other ventures (like drug dealing) were limited to 10 meager jobs from Little Jacob. While I enjoyed the "monotony," IV only had a few missions that really stood out and was a very long "odyssey" that, for some, felt like it dragged on a little too long. Fortunately, this pacing issue has been addressed in V. Check out this quote from IGN:

 

 

Rockstar promises a series of highs and lows in the campaign, as opposed to Grand Theft Auto IV’s run towards an ultimate conclusion, meaning you’ll crescendo as you get closer to completing each heist, only to reset and start again on another heist thereafter. This is a novel approach, made even more unique by the way the three characters intermingle with one another to complete each task that makes the heist at hand successful.

 

The heist structure should definitely keep the game from dragging as there will be multiple goals, as opposed to Niko's one major goal.

 

I'm confident your other concerns about the diversity of criminal activities have been addressed as well:

 

 

The guns and crank in this area go through Trevor Phillips Enterprises or they ain't goin!

 

Based on what we've seen and heard, I suspect we'll have the opportunity to run drugs and arms in V, in addition to illegal racing. R* hasn't confirmed every criminal activity yet as they do want most of the game to be a surprise. With all we know so far, it's hard to believe there's anything else, but hopefully there will also be opportunities for gambling and other illicit activities we haven't thought about yet. The fact that there's a crop duster suggests to be we'll be growing some ganja so keep your fingers crossed.

[saintsrow]

I am in sync with the OP. Since the highly dramatic story in GTA IV was such a downer overall,, the brightest spot in the whole game was the bank heist, kind of a miniature version of the Heat heist. So Rockstar concluded, hey, the fans want heists; let's give them heists!

 

While I am certainly looking forward to a few complex heists as promised, with big shootouts on the scale of the Heat heist, it would have been been better if GTA IV had more interesting missions and storyline, so that the one heist was not the highlight of the game.

 

It sounds like one of the first previewed missions was a rescue operation undertaken as part of a deal with the law, so maybe there is at least one mission that is not a pure heist.

[Haha365]

While I'm sure GTA V will activities including drugs and such, they won't be the major theme. GTA IV already had a lot of drug business in it and was much more a cnetral theme (along with those damn diamonds!). I doubt R* has denied the opportunity to have involvement with other activites though.

[HaythamKenway]

I am in sync with the OP. Since the highly dramatic story in GTA IV was such a downer overall,, the brightest spot in the whole game was the bank heist, kind of a miniature version of the Heat heist. So Rockstar concluded, hey, the fans want heists; let's give them heists!

 

While I am certainly looking forward to a few complex heists as promised, with big shootouts on the scale of the Heat heist, it would have been been better if GTA IV had more interesting missions and storyline, so that the one heist was not the highlight of the game.

 

It sounds like one of the first previewed missions was a rescue operation undertaken as part of a deal with the law, so maybe there is at least one mission that is not a pure heist.

I doubt heist missions will be that important. Obviously, they will be the main focus of the story, but so was the hunt for Darko/problems with Dimitri in IV and how many times has the story actually dealt with those issues once it left Broker? There were pretty much just rescuing Roman, meeting Florian and his missions, encounter with Darko and then it was the end already.

 

I think every heist will have, like, five missions dealing with preparations for it (and those can be varied too - remember bank robbery missions in VC or the Caligula heist in SA?) and rest will deal with every character's personal problems. Michael will most likely deal with his family members and FIB agents, Trevor is in some sort of gang war with the Lost and Franklin is still helping Lamar with the hood stuff. And that's just what we know yet. None of these things deal with heists, so really, I wouldn't be worried V won't be about anything else.

[urbanfire]

they have a lot to reveal. From the character trailers, it seems there will be more to each story arch than just heists. Michael has to deal with FIB, his cheating whore wife and his disconnect from his children. Trevor has a whole drug trade war with the east side Lost gang. Franklin is trying to leave the hood but keeps getting pulled back into gang life by Lamar.

 

Plenty of stuff to do

[gta5freemode4eva]

They've said that there is a thriving economy so I'm sure that drugs and jewls will come into play. The three characters are vastly different so we can expect a variety of missions for each individual character. I don't think this game is just heists. Rockstar or GI said that some missions will be un-available unless we have a certain amount of money (probably to guy gear, hire help etc) so we will have to do build up missions. I think this is where the variety comes in. I need $100,000 to hire you two for this almighty bank heist... I'll assassinate MAN X and take his $100,000 etc... I need $50,000 maybe there is an underground street racing club where top 'players' get paid $15,000 a win... I need $250,000 I'll kidnap GIRL X... I need this weapon from the military, maybe I can pay off the dude that has the blue-prints for the place and sneak in etc etc. I get the feeling that this vast map holds a vast array of things to do and a nice range of ways of doing them to.

[Algonquin Assassin]

Drug dealing of some kind is pretty much a certainty. It might be more significant than other the games. Trevor's an addict. He probably eats meth and coke for breakfast.

 

Remember we're dealing with three protagonists this time not just one. I see why alot of people found the hitman angle of GTA IV stale, but if you throw in EFLC and count it all as one story it's not so stale is it?

 

Michael, Trevor and Franklin wont be together every second. They're all different in the same way Niko, Johhny and Luis are. While they're not working on a heist they'll have their own issues to deal with and as such we'll probably have side missions reflective of this like GTA IV/EFLC.

 

I think when people hear heists they think that's what everything will be. Even in GTA IV not everything was about killing someone or Niko trying to find Darko. There was some latitude and ease to explore other aspects like witnessing the rift between the McRearies for example.

 

I see the heists serving more of a culmination of events exactly like all the different scenarios in GTA IV.

Edited May 9, 2013 by Miamivicecity

[freakinggonerihatethis]

There wasn't anything known about GTA IV. Yet it wasn't all "Immigrant this, I'm afraid!"

Now suck it up. It'll probably be just a GTA, only they added more good sh*t like heists! I can't wait to meet some of the mission characters.

I'm hoping for drug addicts and guys like Little Jacob and Brucie.

[Afly94]

Isn't Trevor a major drug dealer in the game?

[Official General]

I see why alot of people found the hitman angle of GTA IV stale, but if you throw in EFLC and count it all as one story it's not so stale is it?

 

I think when people hear heists they think that's what everything will be. Even in GTA IV not everything was about killing someone or Niko trying to find Darko. There was some latitude and ease to explore other aspects like witnessing the rift between the McRearies for example.

 

@ Miami

 

My point exactly bro. If GTA IV+EFLC had been released as one game from the start, I'm sure there would have been much less complaints about the quite repetitive hitman-style missions that made up most of Niko's storyline. Most people would have been raving on about how great the variety of action and activities were, as Luis and Johnny's storylines would have contributed to this.

 

But GTA IV was first released on it's own, and that is what matters. Obviously not all of IV was about killing people, but being honest, a good 80 to 90 percent of the game was about that. The side missions like stealing cars for Brucie and delivering drugs/doing drug deals for Little Jacob were simply too short and not enough. It was only when the EFLC came out that we got a good bit more variety in IV. I don't want GTA V to go down that same road - I want V to have a rich variety of action and activities from the start, not on some dlc that is released much later down the line.

 

@ Dick Valor

 

Yeah so far, I'm very happy to hear about the return of many features that are back in GTA V along with the new ones, many of which include varied criminal activity. But the one criminal activity that I strongly believe would crown this game would be activities involving the drug trade. Because I have not really heard Rockstar mention this, it has thinking and concerned. At least a mention of Mexican cartels in the storyline would have eased my concerns. But for most part it's heists and more heists I here about and I just wish Rockstar would let us know more about other criminal stuff in this game.

 

However there are some strong signs of drug trade activity shown in V so far, so I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[The Made Man]

The most recent screenshots of GTA V are amazing, and preview information given so far, is excellent news. Right now GTA V is shaping to be possibly one of the greatest GTA games yet. So far, so great.

 

Now, I know the central theme of the game is centered on major heists and robberies. But that is all I seem to hear about in information about the gameplay. Don't me wrong, I love the idea of planning major heists and I very excited to hear that robbing stores has come back. But have not yet heard of other criminal activities that are available to us. I want variety in the criminal activities and operations that we carry out, too much of the same thing will obviously get tedious, monotonous and repetitive.

 

What about drugs ? I have not heard any mention of drug-dealing or drug trafficking activity in the game, and this is very surprising, since the game is based on LA and Southern California, which in real life, is a region that is a hotbed for drug trafficking and drug markets, especially coming in from Mexico. I have not anything about this, I was hoping to see stuff like this.

 

I really do not  want GTA V to get stale in many sections of the storyline and gameplay, because that was happened with GTA IV when Rockstar focused too much on hitman missions for Niko's character. As a result, many people felt IV was a bit repetitive and stale. V needs to avoid this by providing more variety in the criminal actions of the protagonists.

 

Anyone else think about this ? Discuss

OG, I see where you're coming from. Your criticism of IV is valid: you mostly work as a hit man and car thief and, unfortunately, other ventures (like drug dealing) were limited to 10 meager jobs from Little Jacob. While I enjoyed the "monotony," IV only had a few missions that really stood out and was a very long "odyssey" that, for some, felt like it dragged on a little too long. Fortunately, this pacing issue has been addressed in V. Check out this quote from IGN:

 

 

Rockstar promises a series of highs and lows in the campaign, as opposed to Grand Theft Auto IV’s run towards an ultimate conclusion, meaning you’ll crescendo as you get closer to completing each heist, only to reset and start again on another heist thereafter. This is a novel approach, made even more unique by the way the three characters intermingle with one another to complete each task that makes the heist at hand successful.

 

The heist structure should definitely keep the game from dragging as there will be multiple goals, as opposed to Niko's one major goal.

 

I'm confident your other concerns about the diversity of criminal activities have been addressed as well:

 

 

The guns and crank in this area go through Trevor Phillips Enterprises or they ain't goin!

 

Based on what we've seen and heard, I suspect we'll have the opportunity to run drugs and arms in V, in addition to illegal racing. R* hasn't confirmed every criminal activity yet as they do want most of the game to be a surprise. With all we know so far, it's hard to believe there's anything else, but hopefully there will also be opportunities for gambling and other illicit activities we haven't thought about yet. The fact that there's a crop duster suggests to be we'll be growing some ganja so keep your fingers crossed.

You are so smart!

 

I totally forgot about the crop duster. I always wonder what it'll be used for, probably to grow some drugs...