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Aliasing: Just the Fact of Life for 720p Displays


brian.
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All you graphics whores are just that... whores. Can't wait till R* f*cks you, kills you, and takes your money with the next epic installment of GTA.

 

What an astoundingly mature and dignified comment.

 

Wait, it's actually a puerile screed of pure dross.

 

 

IV and RDR (which I play on PS3) remain my favorite video games ever, despite the "640p," "jaggies," etc. V is only going to look better so the petty nitpicking here is trollish at best.

 

You have this bizarre conception that it's impossible to enjoy a game while admitting that the graphics aren't the best.

 

 

 

Didn't any of you kiddies ever play games like Super Mario Bros? Ultimately, it's the gameplay that counts. I'm sure most of you graphics whores aren't exactly "lookers" yourselves.

 

Yes I have. It's a good game. Graphics don't matter for it.

 

You show a clear case of an inability to comprehend anything besides ham-fisted black-and-white viewpoints.

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Meezarawcks
On consoles, unless you have a giant TV with an HDMI cable for your console, you wouldn't be able to tell if a game had AA or not if you were given a comparison. I don't get how a few damn pixels being jaggy somehow makes the game unplayable. Even on a PC if you disable AA, games still look good. Stop overreacting about such a small part of the graphical presentation over the game.

then u have never played BF3 on consoles for sure

I played it on PS3.....and???

if u havent noticed aliasing in BF3 on consoles, u either have something with you eyes or u only played N64 before

No I get your point but did it make the game any less enjoyable for me? No it did not. That fact alone should make you understand that people have the right to choose. I get you don't like the aliasing on consoles, but the aliasing doesnt bother me so lets agree to disagree and get over it.

On certain points like on maps with many object and edges, it sometimes was a mess to see an enemy because of the pixelated edges

Personal preference my friend. I guess my eyes are more tuned to seeing past those edges cause I shot everyone as square as I could. I would love to play with lush graphics on the PC but there is no way I am going to wait any longer for this game.

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Mr Disappoint

Lol, your loss. No skin off my back. I will definitely be soaking in all the awesome goodness while you cry in a little corner about aliasing?!?! ROFL!

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Lol, your loss. No skin off my back. I will definitely be soaking in all the awesome goodness while you cry in a little corner about aliasing?!?! ROFL!

Could you people be assed to present yourself so that you DON'T look like imbecilic 12-year-olds?

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On consoles, unless you have a giant TV with an HDMI cable for your console, you wouldn't be able to tell if a game had AA or not if you were given a comparison. I don't get how a few damn pixels being jaggy somehow makes the game unplayable. Even on a PC if you disable AA, games still look good. Stop overreacting about such a small part of the graphical presentation over the game.

then u have never played BF3 on consoles for sure

Actually I have, and I only noticed slight jaggyness on my huge TV. Even with that, it affected literally nothing. AA has to be one of the most bitched about graphical features, and I have no clue why. Games didn't even have AA like 12 years ago, and nobody complained then.

because 12 years ago we havent played in HD...

 

I doubt you even know what aliasing is after this comment...

Anti Aliasing slightly blurs the edges on objects in a game to get rid of any pixelization that may distort the image. I'm well aware of what it does. I'm saying that people back then didn't complain, so we shouldn't complain now. It obviously doesn't make a game unplayable. Also, I am quite a nitpicker myself. I take a lot of time to admire graphics in games, but when it comes to such a small thing, it doesn't matter. I play games for gameplay and story, not graphics.

 

The fact that there is a thread about this, is just stupid. Either wait for the PC version or shut up. Nobody complained about AA on red dead, so why are people complaining now? I'd rather have amazing lighting, which is the most important factor to a game visually, than any AA at all.

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Mr Disappoint
Lol, your loss. No skin off my back. I will definitely be soaking in all the awesome goodness while you cry in a little corner about aliasing?!?! ROFL!

Could you people be assed to present yourself so that you DON'T look like imbecilic 12-year-olds?

...what? I'm 23 btw so no.

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Most of the people that say they dont care about graphics are the same ones saying OMG LOOK AT DAT GRAPHIXZXZX! in screenshot topics.

 

For me coming from the PC, graphics are very important, because i pay for it. Preformance is even a higher priority. And looking back at gta iv for the consoles, im a bit worried.

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On consoles, unless you have a giant TV with an HDMI cable for your console, you wouldn't be able to tell if a game had AA or not if you were given a comparison. I don't get how a few damn pixels being jaggy somehow makes the game unplayable. Even on a PC if you disable AA, games still look good. Stop overreacting about such a small part of the graphical presentation over the game.

then u have never played BF3 on consoles for sure

Actually I have, and I only noticed slight jaggyness on my huge TV. Even with that, it affected literally nothing. AA has to be one of the most bitched about graphical features, and I have no clue why. Games didn't even have AA like 12 years ago, and nobody complained then.

because 12 years ago we havent played in HD...

 

I doubt you even know what aliasing is after this comment...

Anti Aliasing slightly blurs the edges on objects in a game to get rid of any pixelization that may distort the image. I'm well aware of what it does. I'm saying that people back then didn't complain, so we shouldn't complain now. It obviously doesn't make a game unplayable. Also, I am quite a nitpicker myself. I take a lot of time to admire graphics in games, but when it comes to such a small thing, it doesn't matter. I play games for gameplay and story, not graphics.

 

The fact that there is a thread about this, is just stupid. Either wait for the PC version or shut up. Nobody complained about AA on red dead, so why are people complaining now? I'd rather have amazing lighting, which is the most important factor to a game visually, than any AA at all.

Red Dead had 2 times AA on xbox and Quincunx AA on PS3. so almost no AA. so why should someone complain about aliasing if there is non...

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I'm pretty sure this is why people play on TV's and not monitors. Listen, watch all the trailers on PS3/360 on a good HDTV, thats what the game will look like on your TV.

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And here i was, thinking that i'm a graphics whore. But this guy takes the cake. I love great looking graphics, no doubt about that and if the final game looks like the trailers i'm going to be one happy camper, but if not and it has some aliasing,no big deal. It's not like you are going to be staring at that aliasing for a long time. It's not like GTA IV had horrible aliasing, it was pretty alright actually. Some people see screenshots and they notice some 'ugly' things, but i bet when they have the game, they won't pay attention to it at all. If they do and it actually affects their fun and gaming experience...i feel bad for you, it sure won't for me though.

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The-San-Andreas-man
And here i was, thinking that i'm a graphics whore. But this guy takes the cake. I love great looking graphics, no doubt about that and if the final game looks like the trailers i'm going to be one happy camper, but if not and it has some aliasing,no big deal. It's not like you are going to be staring at that aliasing for a long time. It's not like GTA IV had horrible aliasing, it was pretty alright actually. Some people see screenshots and they notice some 'ugly' things, but i bet when they have the game, they won't pay attention to it at all. If they do and it actually affects their fun and gaming experience...i feel bad for you, it sure won't for me though.

Perfectly worded. Aliasing is the least of my concerns when it comes to a game graphically.

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Never have I seen such a cool, calm, and mature post in my entire life.

 

 

 

I really hope you understood the sarcasm.

You are the last person who should call someone out on their supposed immaturity.

I would have taken you a bit more seriously if you didn't post after that, you're seriously very aggressive and, for the sake of your social life and anyone who considers liking you, I hope those posts sounded a tad better in your brain.

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Crimson Flam3s
All you graphics whores are just that... whores. Can't wait till R* f*cks you, kills you, and takes your money with the next epic installment of GTA.

 

IV and RDR (which I play on PS3) remain my favorite video games ever, despite the "640p," "jaggies," etc. V is only going to look better so the petty nitpicking here is trollish at best.

 

Didn't any of you kiddies ever play games like Super Mario Bros? Ultimately, it's the gameplay that counts. I'm sure most of you graphics whores aren't exactly "lookers" yourselves. lol.gif

lol this guy deserves a prize! lol.giflol.giflol.gif

 

I agree that pc gamers have the right to demand better graphics since their hardware is better, but you better not complain about consoles. We like pretty graphics yes, but we prefer consoles for a reason.

 

Find me any pc that has 512 ram being able to run gta v?? lol.gif That's one of the reason why I know that games on ps4 will look a lot better than pc fanboys claim, optimization baby.

 

Not too long ago AA was not existent so I don't know why you punks bitch about the smallest stuff all the time. Even if gta v released with same graphics as ps3, you guys would get it monocle.gif

 

I play a lot on pc too, and I have been playing on old school consoles so I can see both sides of the coin, really well wink.gif

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I think people like this should be put in graphic whore rehab centers.

 

The rehab center consists of having to play nothing but older games progressively for 3 months at a time.

 

So 3 months of Pong

 

3 Months of Donkey Kong

 

3 Months of Super Mario

 

3 Months of Link to the past

 

3 Months of Tomb Raider

 

3 Months of crazy taxi

 

3 months of Mario 64

 

3 months of MGS 2

 

3 Months of Halo

 

3 Months of HL 2

 

3 Months of GTA IV

 

3 Months of Crysis 3

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dewan2000

Only thing that will bother me is FPS drops...Hope it wont be as bad as GTA 4. Anything below 25FPS gives me a headache.

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Dick Valor

 

All you graphics whores are just that... whores. Can't wait till R* f*cks you, kills you, and takes your money with the next epic installment of GTA.

 

What an astoundingly mature and dignified comment.

 

Wait, it's actually a puerile screed of pure dross.

That "puerile screed of pure dross" was admittedly a corny GTA hooker joke, playing on the epithet "graphics whore." It seems to have gone over your head. Good to know you can use a thesaurus though. dozingoff.gif

 

 

IV and RDR (which I play on PS3) remain my favorite video games ever, despite the "640p," "jaggies," etc. V is only going to look better so the petty nitpicking here is trollish at best.

 

You have this bizarre conception that it's impossible to enjoy a game while admitting that the graphics aren't the best.

Funny, didn't my comment convey the exact opposite? I criticized the graphics of what I consider "my favorite games ever." Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired. I was replying to the OP, who explicitly said V would be unplayable because of the jaggies, or did you misread that as well? Stop attacking straw men and maybe you won't make such as ass of yourself next time. wink.gif

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nigelhere9901

We all are aware of aliasing, most of us, I just hope R* doesn't ruin the game by adding DoF everywhere.

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stranger44

Everyone who has ever played Minecraft is lolling at this thread.

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Everyone who has ever played Minecraft is lolling at this thread.

I have played minecraft, and its is not comparable at all.

And there is a reason why these texture packs etc are coming out aswell.

 

What you get is what you paid for. Dont call people graphic whores because that will make yall look like a bunch of hypocrites.

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nigelhere9901
Everyone who has ever played Minecraft is lolling at this thread.

I have played Minecraft number of times, actually, I think I at least spent 25 hours in it.

And no I am not "lolling" at this thread.

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im playing videogames since 1991 so i can't care less about your 720p crap. im guessing that you are a 14 years old PC fa**ot so f*ck you.

Without wishing to upset you, but this response is disgusting.

 

Just don't feed the troll!

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See all those pixel jaggies on all that high detail goodness in the mid clip? Yea, you see it, see those cranes? See how their legs go "black/white/black/white" - yea, those aren't multicolored up close lol. When the camera moves, those are going to look like they are spinning and static objects are going to be jumpy and spinner-looking all over the map at console resolution.

 

Screenshot looks great, but in motion, that is going to be a mess of pixel-fighting and super ugly. It's going to be ever-present jaggie-land.

 

This game will be unplayable for me at 720p. I will pass this game until I can play it at higher than that resolution.

 

You?

 

Before you decide: I suggest look at the image in its own tab, hold CTRL+Scroll to zoom in til it is fullscreen. That is what the game will look like at that resolution on any tv bigger than the screenshot.

As a cool black dude told me.... "MAN! SHUT CHOOOOO BITCH ASS UP!"

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Everyone who has ever played Minecraft is lolling at this thread.

I have played Minecraft number of times, actually, I think I at least spent 25 hours in it.

And no I am not "lolling" at this thread.

Not even at the fact that Minecraft has no Anti-Aliasing of any kind by default and yet still manages to be an entertaining game, something the OP can't even fathom? Wow, no sense of humor here at all...

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Graphics today sometimes hurt games more than they help. More time, effort, and funds go into making games LOOK good as opposed to actually BEING good. Most game companys seem to think as long as it looks good, they can release games with sub-par gameplay. In the days of the PS2/Xbox1, we saw this effect far less, because graphics sucked all around, so companys had to make up for it by making the gameplay stellar.

It was the only way to stand out. Today the argument can be made that the advancements to graphics today has lead to sub-par games being released. They just try to make up for it by making it pretty. If you wrap a turd in shiny wrapping paper, at the end of the day its still just a piece of sh*t...

Nobody is even gonna try and dispute this? Thats a first on this site for any comment about any subject...

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Graphics today sometimes  hurt games more than they help. More time, effort, and funds go into making games LOOK  good as opposed to actually BEING good. Most  game companys seem to think as long as it looks good, they can release games with sub-par gameplay. In the days of the PS2/Xbox1, we saw this effect far less, because graphics sucked all around, so companys had to make up for it by making the gameplay stellar.

It was the only way to stand out. Today the argument can be made that the advancements to graphics today has lead to sub-par games being released. They just try to make up for it by making it pretty. If you wrap a turd in shiny wrapping paper, at the end of the day its still just a piece of sh*t...

Nobody is even gonna try and dispute this? Thats a first on this site for any comment about any subject...

What? Why? It's written too conditionally to dispute (as highlighted by your tendency to underline hedging expressions in your own post).

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jamieleng

Yaaaaawn. Someone wake me when a decent thread is created. Cheers icon14.gifsleepy.gif

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nigelhere9901

 

Everyone who has ever played Minecraft is lolling at this thread.

I have played Minecraft number of times, actually, I think I at least spent 25 hours in it.

And no I am not "lolling" at this thread.

Not even at the fact that Minecraft has no Anti-Aliasing of any kind by default and yet still manages to be an entertaining game, something the OP can't even fathom? Wow, no sense of humor here at all...

The game will be entertaining despite how atrocious the graphics are, what I really hate is the opinion that "graphics don't matter or such thing isn't needed".

This story that "graphics don't matter" couldn't be more nonsense. Graphics and visual quality play a huge role in immersion, emotional connection and other psychological factors. Of course, a game is not good because of graphics alone, but saying graphics do not matter is a huge display of ignorance.

 

That said, I prefer clarity over visuals any day, would not want my eyes to burn.

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Yaaaaawn. Someone wake me when a decent thread is created. Cheers icon14.gifsleepy.gif

There are decent threads out there, somewhere.

– overeducated wonk who fetishises compromise

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jamieleng
Yaaaaawn. Someone wake me when a decent thread is created. Cheers icon14.gif  sleepy.gif

There are decent threads out there, somewhere.

Well they seem to be lost in the local Bermuda Triangle (otherwise known as Pages 2,3,4,5...)

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