360 "Switching Discs"

[Manny94]

Just keep thinking and... I HAVEN'T yet played a game with Mulitple Disks except Halo. What is the Big Deal with the Discs? Will it effect the gameplay in anyway? or is it just for Missions? Not sure if this sounds dumb but thanks.

[HudS]

I don't think that there will be a swapping part. Just a install disc and a play disc.

[RandomNoun]

If it is swapping discs, it'll just be like partway through the story missions you'll need to swap.

[GrandTheftAutoV.]

Just keep thinking and... I HAVEN'T yet played a game with Mulitple Disks except Halo. What is the Big Deal with the Discs? Will it effect the gameplay in anyway? or is it just for Missions? Not sure if this sounds dumb but thanks.

I don't know if have how to install all DVDs and use just one for play on 250GB systems and the others switch DVDs in certain parts of history, but you can turn around the map, and make all other things with only one DVD

[I Luke]

Not going to happen.

[iNero]

there wont be disc switch... you just install all discs and play with one. done!

 

like every other games these days...

[United_Stealth]

Remember the loading times between areas in gtaIII and vc?? Now you'll have to switch discs if you want to enter an area

 

 

 

 

 

No you just need to install with one disc and play with the other. No biggy.

[STOGE]

dont know cheif iv got a ps3 so dnt have any experience of "changing discs" during games

[Racecarlock]

Well if it absolutely HAS to be multiple discs, which I still doubt by the way, then it'll probably be one install disc and one play disc.

 

Rockstar would never pull something so bullsh*t as "You've entered this area. Swap discs now".

[iiConTr0v3rSYx]

Remember the loading times between areas in gtaIII and vc?? Now you'll have to switch discs if you want to enter an area

 

 

 

 

 

No you just need to install with one disc and play with the other. No biggy.

Wouldn't make sense. I can understand if the story was split between multiple disks, like MP3, but to switch a disk just to go to another area of the map...... Makes no sense.

[Rizaki Koizumi]

I doubt you'd have to swap discs, I'm sure Rockstar will make it run seamless. They'll find a way.

 

I am a bit worried too though with GTA V not fitting on the dual-layer DVD used for Xbox 360 games. PS3 users need not worry because of the massive space Blu-ray gives them. If that were to happen where multiple discs were needed for Xbox 360, chances are that Rockstar could set it up so Disc 1 is the Install disc and Disc 2 could be the Play disc, kinda like GTAIII and Vice City on PC. They'll make it so discs don't need to be swapped.

 

 

 

Off topic...

I have noticed a few games coming on multiple discs on Xbox 360. The first game I witnessed that used multiple discs was Final Fantasy XIII, which used 3 discs. Castlevania Lords of Shadow I believe used 2 discs, Battlefield 3 had a separate disc for multiplayer and campaign, and I think even Rockstar's own Max Payne 3 had more than one disc come on the Xbox 360 version.

[iNero]

BF3 was divided in SP and MP disc.

 

Max Payne 3 I only got the digital version on my 360 so I dunno.

 

But they will make it like Halo4. Install all discs and u dont have to swtich. easy as that. if you read the Previews u notice how the MP works. you press dpad and you directly switch to mp. also your MP character is in the character wheel.

 

so the transision from SP to MP is just a button push. would be the most stupid thing ever if u would have to swich

[Ash_735]

there wont be disc switch... you just install all discs and play with one. done!

 

like every other games these days...

Just like L.A.Noire, ...no wait, Max Payne 3, ...no wait, hmmm.

 

Even if you install the discs you STILL have to switch the disc in the drive for verification. You know what DOESN'T require this, MICROSOFT PUBLISHED TITLES. So unless GTA V were to suddenly become an Xbox 360 exclusive, I doubt they'll be able to get away with using an install disc and play disc.

 

Battlefield 3 gets around this by having the install stuff on the second disc appear as "DLC" which the game will load regardless, but that's just for the High res Textures, Single Player and Multi Player still require disc swapping verification.

[TheGodDamnMaster]

there wont be disc switch... you just install all discs and play with one. done!

 

like every other games these days...

Just like L.A.Noire, ...no wait, Max Payne 3, ...no wait, hmmm.

 

Even if you install the discs you STILL have to switch the disc in the drive for verification. You know what DOESN'T require this, MICROSOFT PUBLISHED TITLES. So unless GTA V were to suddenly become an Xbox 360 exclusive, I doubt they'll be able to get away with using an install disc and play disc.

 

Battlefield 3 gets around this by having the install stuff on the second disc appear as "DLC" which the game will load regardless, but that's just for the High res Textures, Single Player and Multi Player still require disc swapping verification.

Yeah, I was pissed when I found out I still had to swap discs for Max Payne 3 after I wasted Hard Drive space installing them.

[DS 17]

I don't think that there will be a swapping part. Just a install disc and a play disc.

That'd mean it will not be compatible with the XBox Arcade version, which has no hard disk.

[SHOTIMITSU]

Swapping disc's seem alittle old school to me, it reminds me of the FF7 days.

[RandomNoun]

Swapping disc's seem alittle old school to me, it reminds me of the FF7 days.

But those were such momentous events.

[iNero]

I don't think that there will be a swapping part. Just a install disc and a play disc.

That'd mean it will not be compatible with the XBox Arcade version, which has no hard disk.

So? U cant play BF3 DLCs with arcade either. And u cant play halo4 mp without hdd at all cause it has to be installed.

 

[WorldWideFM]

If it has multiple disks then you'll need to swap disks when you get to a certain point in the story. Suppose the story is thirty hours long, then you can think of three disks as having each of the ten hours on it. Once you complete the final mission on that disk you'll get a little pop-up saying "Insert disk n to continue", so you then pop the disk in and after about five seconds everything continues as normal. Mass Effect 2 pulled this off very well, ME3 didn't quite do it so good and made you swap a lot more.

 

But I have faith that if we have to swap disks on 360 that the map, the side missions and the multiplayer will be common to all three disks (seeing as the MP is accessible from the character wheel) and the only difference between each disk is which story mission each contains, so when you get to a certain point in the story you have to do a quick ten second switch and we'll probably be making two or three swaps in an entire playthrough. It's not an issue. I'm actually hoping that the game does come on multiple disks because it's a sign that the scope of this game is large.

[Ash_735]

I don't think that there will be a swapping part. Just a install disc and a play disc.

That'd mean it will not be compatible with the XBox Arcade version, which has no hard disk.

So? U cant play BF3 DLCs with arcade either. And u cant play halo4 mp without hdd at all cause it has to be installed.

Difference is, BF3 extras are regarded as DLC, and Halo 4 is published by Microsoft so they can break their own rules.

 

Rockstar wouldn't be able to get away with that sort of thing, again, unless it became Xbox 360 exclusive, then Microsoft would allow you to break whatever rule you want.

[Anonymity]

I haven't thought about disc swapping since the PS1 days. The few games I've had on 360 that have multiple discs are, like others have said already, one install and one play.

[iNero]

 

I don't think that there will be a swapping part. Just a install disc and a play disc.

That'd mean it will not be compatible with the XBox Arcade version, which has no hard disk.

So? U cant play BF3 DLCs with arcade either. And u cant play halo4 mp without hdd at all cause it has to be installed.

Difference is, BF3 extras are regarded as DLC, and Halo 4 is published by Microsoft so they can break their own rules.

 

Rockstar wouldn't be able to get away with that sort of thing, again, unless it became Xbox 360 exclusive, then Microsoft would allow you to break whatever rule you want.

R* just has to put all the hd textures on a second disc to save space on disc1 for all that stuff. then you just have to install the textures on the HDD and do it like with BF3. so people with no HDD can play it but without HD textures, just like BF3.

 

 

And I doubt that it will 2 discs anyways. only the soundfiles need that much space. I mean Skyrim only had about 3 GB and it was huge and rammed up with content and awesome graphics for a console open world.

 

GTA5 will not have much more sound files as it has even less missions with conversations than GTA4. It will have more obviously but not that u need more than 1 disc.

 

Bethesda knows how to keep size down. so R* should be able to do so too

[Meezarawcks]

You will have to swap disks everytime you switch from character to character.

 

lol j/k bro i have no clue.

[Ash_735]

I don't think that there will be a swapping part. Just a install disc and a play disc.

That'd mean it will not be compatible with the XBox Arcade version, which has no hard disk.

So? U cant play BF3 DLCs with arcade either. And u cant play halo4 mp without hdd at all cause it has to be installed.

Difference is, BF3 extras are regarded as DLC, and Halo 4 is published by Microsoft so they can break their own rules.

 

Rockstar wouldn't be able to get away with that sort of thing, again, unless it became Xbox 360 exclusive, then Microsoft would allow you to break whatever rule you want.

R* just has to put all the hd textures on a second disc to save space on disc1 for all that stuff. then you just have to install the textures on the HDD and do it like with BF3. so people with no HDD can play it but without HD textures, just like BF3.

 

 

And I doubt that it will 2 discs anyways. only the soundfiles need that much space. I mean Skyrim only had about 3 GB and it was huge and rammed up with content and awesome graphics for a console open world.

 

GTA5 will not have much more sound files as it has even less missions with conversations than GTA4. It will have more obviously but not that u need more than 1 disc.

 

Bethesda knows how to keep size down. so R* should be able to do so too

Do you seriously think they'll lower the texture detail EVEN MORE? The consoles are already using the lowest quality textures, you want to send the Xbox 360 back to the PS2 era? Besides, something you said which was right for once, the majority of space is Audio, apart from lowering the audio quality, there isn't much room for movement here.

[iNero]

I don't think that there will be a swapping part. Just a install disc and a play disc.

That'd mean it will not be compatible with the XBox Arcade version, which has no hard disk.

So? U cant play BF3 DLCs with arcade either. And u cant play halo4 mp without hdd at all cause it has to be installed.

Difference is, BF3 extras are regarded as DLC, and Halo 4 is published by Microsoft so they can break their own rules.

 

Rockstar wouldn't be able to get away with that sort of thing, again, unless it became Xbox 360 exclusive, then Microsoft would allow you to break whatever rule you want.

R* just has to put all the hd textures on a second disc to save space on disc1 for all that stuff. then you just have to install the textures on the HDD and do it like with BF3. so people with no HDD can play it but without HD textures, just like BF3.

 

 

And I doubt that it will 2 discs anyways. only the soundfiles need that much space. I mean Skyrim only had about 3 GB and it was huge and rammed up with content and awesome graphics for a console open world.

 

GTA5 will not have much more sound files as it has even less missions with conversations than GTA4. It will have more obviously but not that u need more than 1 disc.

 

Bethesda knows how to keep size down. so R* should be able to do so too

Do you seriously think they'll lower the texture detail EVEN MORE? The consoles are already using the lowest quality textures, you want to send the Xbox 360 back to the PS2 era? Besides, something you said which was right for once, the majority of space is Audio, apart from lowering the audio quality, there isn't much room for movement here.

u talk so much BS its incredible...

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stop talking about stuff u have no idea about. watch BF3 without and with HD textures. u can remove them and it still looks good enough to play it. if u want to play it proper u need an HDD and that is something everybody who owns an arcade version should know

 

 

now stop annoying me with such pointless posts

[Ash_735]

u talk so much BS its incredible...

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stop talking about stuff u have no idea about. watch BF3 without and with HD textures. u can remove them and it still looks good enough to play it. if u want to play it proper u need an HDD and that is something everybody who owns an arcade version should know

 

 

now stop annoying me with such pointless posts

I'm sorry, just because I keep proving YOU wrong, I talk bullsh*t? Haha, someone's upset.

[zombie elvis]

Not sure if it was mentioned but The GTA IV Complete Edition (IV+Episodes) is a single Blu Ray for PS3 and 2 DVDs for 360. It'll mostly be down to how much story there is in there, because they're going to have to get the world to fit on a single disc no matter what.

Edited May 6, 2013 by zombie elvis

[Silent]

 

u talk so much BS its incredible...

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stop talking about stuff u have no idea about. watch BF3 without and with HD textures. u can remove them and it still looks good enough to play it. if u want to play it proper u need an HDD and that is something everybody who owns an arcade version should know

 

 

now stop annoying me with such pointless posts

Unlike in BF3, in GTA textures are only a small part of the game (I doubt BF3 has HOURS of rado stations and NPC lines?). Such a division wouldn't be beneficial for the game in any sense.

 

GTA is hell hard to divide anyway. Pretty much everything which is divide-able is map. Mission Audio could be too, but only if they'll somehow cache the dialogues (you start a mission Y in area X, great, but you have to change the disc to access area Z and suddenly the characters will go mute? Either that, a pretty big cache OR duplicating mission audio, which would ruin all the concept of division).

 

 

And yeah bud, I DO have an idea what I talk about. Maybe except BF3 specific stuff, but I have never played it.

 

 

@up

IV and EFLC are two different games.

Edited May 6, 2013 by SilentPL

[Msharingan]

They won't have you swap discs within the open-world. They also seem to want multiplayer to be seamless, so that won't be on a separate disc (like Max Payne 3?)

 

Perhaps Rockstar have employed technology similar to what is detailed in this video:

[Racecarlock]

Wait, doesn't the xbox automatically end the game session when swapping discs? How would rockstar get around that?