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Joey Or Toni? (who should take over the family?)


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Joey Or Toni?  

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GTAFanLuca
11 hours ago, Payne said:

Do we have any info about what Joey was up to in 1998? 

Unfortunately, no. Both the characters of Luigi and Joey are completely ignored in GTA LCS. The only evidence of their existence is the fact that JD's bar is turned into "Luigi's Sex Club" (like in GTA III), but no one ever mentions his person. Joey is also only mentioned in just 2 quotes from Salvatore: one in which he mentions that Toni is doing better than him and another one in which he claims that Toni is a better son to Sal than Joey actually is.

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Lord Criminal

Cipriani.

 

I don't believe that Toni doing much more for the family than Joey ever did has much to do with who's going to be the new don, as being the previous don's son makes it far easier for him to take the leadership than a capo who isn't holding the surname Leone.

 

But that's not the point here. Joey isn't even interested in the family's lifestyle and business to begin with, which would be logical that he wouldn't have a problem had Toni taken over.

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Anywhere USA
On 5/12/2020 at 11:40 PM, GTAFanLuca said:

Unfortunately, no. Both the characters of Luigi and Joey are completely ignored in GTA LCS. The only evidence of their existence is the fact that JD's bar is turned into "Luigi's Sex Club" (like in GTA III), but no one ever mentions his person. Joey is also only mentioned in just 2 quotes from Salvatore: one in which he mentions that Toni is doing better than him and another one in which he claims that Toni is a better son to Sal than Joey actually is.

We DO know thanks to The Introduction that from 87-92 he had CJ working for him stealing cars to sell at his chop shop

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GTAFanLuca
11 hours ago, Anywhere USA said:

We DO know thanks to The Introduction that from 87-92 he had CJ working for him stealing cars to sell at his chop shop

That is true, but that does not really give us more information about Joey's actual dealings within the mafia family business.

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On 5/12/2020 at 8:12 PM, Nappy said:

Do we have any info about what Joey was up to in 1998? 

I believe Joey barely even gets mentioned in Liberty City Stories, so not really. His shop is still there, though.

 

Edit: Didn't realize there was a second page where this already answered. Tee hee.

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VenusianDream

I think the most appropriate answer is Joey because of blood, but Toni would be his consigliere and advise Joey on how to run the family, and possibly scheme to take over in the long run.

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joey is not interested about mafia world and also he left town with misty after his father died and after he finished fixing bf injection 

 

toni is the next don and also he know the enemies better than joey

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GoodEveningFolks

sal said "after all that, you are like a son to me. Better than my son, better than any son." to toni. Not sure if he meant it but if he did, he'd want him to be the don of course

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Why do people keep saying that joey didn't do anything to the family?

Weren't all of Joey's missions about the family ( Going against spank, Killing the Don of the Forellie family , Planing two hiests and much more)?

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IMO he is just too smart to do all of these missions himself he owns a garage and knows how to take care of himself in this town

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Black Handkerchief

i dont think joey has an interest being a leader of mafia, he probably refuse it and instead he choose toni to be the next leader because he know that his dad always has a faith with toni

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1 hour ago, DR:BUSTA said:

Why do people keep saying that joey didn't do anything to the family?

Weren't all of Joey's missions about the family ( Going against spank, Killing the Don of the Forellie family , Planing two hiests and much more)?

People always miss this point. Toni is a thug, not a leader type. Joey is mommied by Salvatore and groomed by him, therefore he can spend his time fixing up cars and messing with hookers instead of performing hits personally.

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"Let death take my enemies by surprise; let them go down alive to the grave, for evil finds lodging among them."

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Probably a co-leadership with Joey being the main face of the Leone Family and Toni being the capo in charge of the "wet work" involving criminal activities.

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salazarcosplay
On 11/4/2023 at 8:28 PM, Luciano89 said:

Probably a co-leadership with Joey being the main face of the Leone Family and Toni being the capo in charge of the "wet work" involving criminal activities.

it would be a great idea for a sequel. Joey gets kicked out of his own mafia family and works hard to get it back.

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I had never thought about that, what a difficult question...

Neither of them (Joey and Toni) has a leadership profile. But one is extremely experienced and cold as a good Italian should be, and the other is simply the SON of the previous boss...

I think the criterion of genealogical lineage should prevail. Toni should stay as the right-hand man or something like that.

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salazarcosplay
On 12/26/2020 at 9:59 AM, Dr Busta said:

Why do people keep saying that joey didn't do anything to the family?

Weren't all of Joey's missions about the family ( Going against spank, Killing the Don of the Forellie family , Planing two hiests and much more)?

Joey gave off the demeanor that he was not all that serious. When he mentioned Tony as being pop's capo, he said it in a ay that meant like he was distanced from his dad.  In the spank mission he said it was coming from Columbia or Colorado, he really did not know or was interest in knowing.  I think we should have been given more missions with Salvatore and Joey where they interact and Joey is shown having leadership. Maybe missions where Joey meets/ and/or sends Claude to meet with an FBI agent or liberty city police to bribe them, or has Claude keeping tabs on the Leone owned businesses besides Luigi's club. 

I think its part of the immersion into the story. We see Joey and we think to ourselves what would be doing if we were in Joey's situation of being son to a Don, and think we would try to do things like Michael Corleone. I think Joey was alright he did not end up like Jimmy from GTA V, or Anthony from Godfather III and Fredo from Godfather.

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