darthYENIK Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Okay, it works, and yes that's it. I was just on my phone, and the Marvel website sometimes doesn't work very well on it. The Comic is good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpain Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 There is absolutely no way for me to get comic books physically over here in my country. Every so-called comic book store you come here in my country, it's always manga and manga and more manga. Not a single DC or Marvel comic in sight. The best place to get comics is... the f*cking library. Seriously my local library has the best collection of comics ever. Will take a pic of the shelf when I get the chance. I've made no secret that I'm a huge fan of both Deadpool and Batman. I go for Deadpool for the awesomeness and I go for Batman for the grittiness. I find it hard to get into whatever comics Marvel or DC put out. Not sure whether it's about getting older or just losing interest. I do enjoy past comics that I have not read yet. As stupid as the idea sounds, Marvel Zombies is actually a fantastic read. Shows the heroes in the darkest ways you can possibly view them. This is unlikely, but is anyone a fan of Scott Pilgrim? My teenage love life has been heavily inspired by that comic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobalt__ Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 There is absolutely no way for me to get comic books physically over here in my country. Every so-called comic book store you come here in my country, it's always manga and manga and more manga. Not a single DC or Marvel comic in sight. The best place to get comics is... the f*cking library. Seriously my local library has the best collection of comics ever. Will take a pic of the shelf when I get the chance. I've made no secret that I'm a huge fan of both Deadpool and Batman. I go for Deadpool for the awesomeness and I go for Batman for the grittiness. I find it hard to get into whatever comics Marvel or DC put out. Not sure whether it's about getting older or just losing interest. I do enjoy past comics that I have not read yet. As stupid as the idea sounds, Marvel Zombies is actually a fantastic read. Shows the heroes in the darkest ways you can possibly view them. This is unlikely, but is anyone a fan of Scott Pilgrim? My teenage love life has been heavily inspired by that comic. Oh the marvel zombies is awesome. It's weird,creepy, cool, and strange all at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpain Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Oh the marvel zombies is awesome. It's weird,creepy, cool, and strange all at once. I still remembered that entire page where they devoured Galactus entirely visually in my head. Such a gruesome scene that was. Then came the scene where they basically eat the surviving ones on the planet, I mean holy shizzle man that was intense. That whole scene I was listening to Give Up The Ghost Light by Radiohead as well. So chilling that it gave me goosebumps when I read that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobalt__ Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 Oh the marvel zombies is awesome. It's weird,creepy, cool, and strange all at once. I still remembered that entire page where they devoured Galactus entirely visually in my head. Such a gruesome scene that was. Then came the scene where they basically eat the surviving ones on the planet, I mean holy shizzle man that was intense. That whole scene I was listening to Give Up The Ghost Light by Radiohead as well. So chilling that it gave me goosebumps when I read that. Lol. It's so gruesome and nasty but you just can't look away. I'm not usually a big fan of gorey comics but I do like some. Like there's a dead pool comic going around I read(can't remember the name), where he feeds pieces of himself to someone. Disgusting but a great read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) The latest Deadpool run is supposed to be pretty good. I don't know much about it, except that he has to fight the zombies of the dead former U.S. presidents. Here's the cover that caught my eye... http://marvel.com/comics/issue/46038/deadpool_2012_4 Edit: just got back from my Free Comic Book day shopping spree. Here's my haul... Clockwise from the top left... Hawkeye #3&4 Marvel Essentials Punisher vol. 2 (it collects #1-20 and Annual #1, for $10) Mass Effect (free comic) Beware the Batman/Teen Titans Go! (free comic) The Walking Dead (free comic) Fubar (free comic) Superman (free comic) Avengers vs X-Men #0-12 (for $15!!!) Batman Battle for the Cowl #3 ($1) Batman and Robin #25 ($1) 4 Bruce Wayne the Road Home one shots ($1 each) The Incredible Hulk ($1, I got it because the cover) I've gotten enough reading for the rest of the summer in one week. Edited May 5, 2013 by darthYENIK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobalt__ Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 The latest Deadpool run is supposed to be pretty good. I don't know much about it, except that he has to fight the zombies of the dead former U.S. presidents. Here's the cover that caught my eye... http://marvel.com/comics/issue/46038/deadpool_2012_4 Edit: just got back from my Free Comic Book day shopping spree. Here's my haul... Clockwise from the top left... Hawkeye #3&4 Marvel Essentials Punisher vol. 2 (it collects #1-20 and Annual #1, for $10) Mass Effect (free comic) Beware the Batman/Teen Titans Go! (free comic) The Walking Dead (free comic) Fubar (free comic) Superman (free comic) Avengers vs X-Men #0-12 (for $15!!!) Batman Battle for the Cowl #3 ($1) Batman and Robin #25 ($1) 4 Bruce Wayne the Road Home one shots ($1 each) The Incredible Hulk ($1, I got it because the cover) I've gotten enough reading for the rest of the summer in one week. Nice! Im jealous of them Hawkeyes. Since I wasnt able to go today, my buddy got me the same walking dead. Cant wait to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Theft Savage Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 What about Manga (Japanese comics)? I read those more than American comics. They seem to have more effort put into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_Loco Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I like Lobo a lot. Love the black humor. One of my favorite Lobo enemy was buttface Sadly I've stopped reading and collecting comics. But most of my collections are still in mint condition in mylars. I have many issue #1s like Spawn, Wetworks, Ash, Big Guy, Gen 13, etc. I don't know why I never bothered reading much of the classically popular DC and Marvel characters like Superman, Batman, X-Men, etc, although I have few special issues of them and some TPBs written by some of my favorite writers like Frank Miller, John Byrne, Keith Giffen just to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpain Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 What about Manga (Japanese comics)? I read those more than American comics. They seem to have more effort put into them. Death Note is a f*cking masterpiece. I also do love the Pokemon Manga. Yes it's Pokemon but more of a serious approach to the storyline. Red is a far more badass than Ash and the whole story involving Blaine and his experiment with Mewtwo really makes you wish this happened in the TV show or the games. So I went to the library today, thinking I would able to get a picture of that comic books shelf I was talking about. WELP, they removed it and reduced it to two small cases of comic books. Pretty disappointed that they did that. But hey I managed to borrow this sweet baby for the week: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuha Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) What about Manga (Japanese comics)? I read those more than American comics. They seem to have more effort put into them. Manga is better than American based comics, the story and the artwork are epic. Well that's just my opinion. @mrpain You mean Pokemon Adventures? Yeah, Red is far better than Ash. I also liked the part in Adventures when all the Pokedex owners destroy Kyogre. Edited May 6, 2013 by RyujinXKaizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobalt__ Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Im not a fan of manga at all. I dont like the artwork, the big eyes and just how its drawn is a put off to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 What about Manga (Japanese comics)? I read those more than American comics. They seem to have more effort put into them. Manga is far better than American based comics, the story and the artwork are epic. I just think that's far too broad of a generalization, and leads me to believe you haven't read enough traditional western comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobalt__ Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 If anyone would like to write some reviews and post it on this topic, I'll link it to the front page under the new Reviews section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Barca Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Back in my mis-spent youth in the early 90's, I bought about 10 issues of the Legion of Superheroes "5 years later" series. Fast forward to last month where I found them in a cupboard and decided to try and track down the whole series (#1 - #61). Have managed to find the bulk here in Aus, with the remaining dozen from the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 After reading 4 issues of Hawkeye, I am convinced a movie based on the current run would be fan-f*cking-tastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobalt__ Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 After reading 4 issues of Hawkeye, I am convinced a movie based on the current run would be fan-f*cking-tastic. Haha awesome. Definitely going to pick up #1 Friday....if I can find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 What about Manga (Japanese comics)? I read those more than American comics. They seem to have more effort put into them. Manga is far better than American based comics, the story and the artwork are epic. I just think that's far too broad of a generalization, and leads me to believe you haven't read enough traditional western comics. I'd have to agree with him, at least if we're talking about super hero comics. Manga is imaginative, innovative and subversive. Where as superhero comics- on top of the asinine nature of men prancing about in their undies- lack moral ambiguity and tend to have a strong subtext of authoritarianism. There's none of that in manga, and even the ones that don't have any strong statements to make are still a tonne of fun (InuYasha, Bleach, Dragon Ball etc.) without the unfortunate implications of well-muscled white men hospitalising misguided youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZDANZ96 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 What about Manga (Japanese comics)? I read those more than American comics. They seem to have more effort put into them. Manga is far better than American based comics, the story and the artwork are epic. I just think that's far too broad of a generalization, and leads me to believe you haven't read enough traditional western comics. I'd have to agree with him, at least if we're talking about super hero comics. Manga is imaginative, innovative and subversive. Where as superhero comics- on top of the asinine nature of men prancing about in their undies- lack moral ambiguity and tend to have a strong subtext of authoritarianism. There's none of that in manga, and even the ones that don't have any strong statements to make are still a tonne of fun (InuYasha, Bleach, Dragon Ball etc.) without the unfortunate implications of well-muscled white men hospitalising misguided youth. Pretty much what Melchior said. Manga is, in many ways, better than the usual 'murican comics, because they usually teach more morals and ethics to the ones who read it. Especially Dragon Ball. Seriously, it is IMHO the best anime/manga/story ever made. Gotta' give props to Akira Toriyama for making my childhood, as a whole, more entertaining. I still love it 'til today, even though all of my mangas were given to my neighbor's son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobalt__ Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 What about Manga (Japanese comics)? I read those more than American comics. They seem to have more effort put into them. Manga is far better than American based comics, the story and the artwork are epic. I just think that's far too broad of a generalization, and leads me to believe you haven't read enough traditional western comics. I'd have to agree with him, at least if we're talking about super hero comics. Manga is imaginative, innovative and subversive. Where as superhero comics- on top of the asinine nature of men prancing about in their undies- lack moral ambiguity and tend to have a strong subtext of authoritarianism. There's none of that in manga, and even the ones that don't have any strong statements to make are still a tonne of fun (InuYasha, Bleach, Dragon Ball etc.) without the unfortunate implications of well-muscled white men hospitalising misguided youth. Pretty much what Melchior said. Manga is, in many ways, better than the usual 'murican comics, because they usually teach more morals and ethics to the ones who read it. Especially Dragon Ball. Seriously, it is IMHO the best anime/manga/story ever made. Gotta' give props to Akira Toriyama for making my childhood, as a whole, more entertaining. I still love it 'til today, even though all of my mangas were given to my neighbor's son. I read comics for entertainment and leisure, not to learn morals and ethics(which you can learn everyday outside of comics). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I read comics for entertainment and leisure, not to learn morals and ethics(which you can learn everyday outside of comics). Art that engages you and communicates with you by teaching you something will always better than art that you consume passively. Also, either way, you're learning about morals and ethics- it's just with super hero comics you're learning the wrong lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobalt__ Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 I read comics for entertainment and leisure, not to learn morals and ethics(which you can learn everyday outside of comics). Art that engages you and communicates with you by teaching you something will always better than art that you consume passively. Also, either way, you're learning about morals and ethics- it's just with super hero comics you're learning the wrong lesson. The wrong lesson in superhero comics? Justice and doing the right thing is wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. León Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 @darthYENIK I'm trying to get into some Batman. What do you suggest me to start? I'm a newbie. About the whole manga thing, I just don't like it. It feels weird and it's not my thing. The artwork looks horrible IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I read comics for entertainment and leisure, not to learn morals and ethics(which you can learn everyday outside of comics). Art that engages you and communicates with you by teaching you something will always better than art that you consume passively. Also, either way, you're learning about morals and ethics- it's just with super hero comics you're learning the wrong lesson. The wrong lesson in superhero comics? Justice and doing the right thing is wrong? Yes, if "justice" means defending the status quo at all costs and hospitalising misguided youth. If the Justice League focused on social reform they could eliminate crime forever. There's also the aspect of anti-intellectualism; intelligence being depicted as something that helps you wriggle out of conventional morality. That's why all the villains are intelligent and appear to have doctorates (Dr Doom, Dr Octopus) where as all the heroes appear to be military officers (Captain America, Capitan Marvel etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Dude, go read Watchmen or anything written by Alan Moore, Frank Miller, or Grant Morrison. Please. @HUGOHL, I'll also say the same to you regarding Frank Miller, but more specifically, Batman: Year One. But if you want to get into new Batman comics, I'd say go pick up Court of Owls and work your way through the New 52 Batman graphic novels, until you catch up with the current issues. or wait a month or two where they're having a new story arc called Batman: Year Zero which is a retelling of Batman's origin for the New 52 starting with Batman #21, I think. As for me, I'm really enjoying this Punisher Essentials vol. 2 book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Watchmen was specifically a deconstruction of everything I talked about... so yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 So yeah, what? It is the opposite of what you were saying, and it's not the only one. Sure, what you're saying might have been by and large, true 30 years ago. But no way is it that way now. Saying ALL traditional comics are pointless, with undertones that promote authoritarianism, in these days when there are countless books being written, is much too broad of a generalization. I wouldn't go around saying all Manga is cartoonly drawn shy school girls with oversized cans and oversized eyes, who have crushes on boys who look like girls. Because that's not true. And it's not like Manga doesn't have it's exploitative material, with young girls being raped by tentacles and anything with a penis. What lesson does hentai teach us? Generalizations and stereotypes are bogus. Now, for the love of god, let's just talk positively about the books we love instead of trying to tear down each other's opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Watchmen is a deconstruction dude. It's the opposite of everything I talked about, because it lampoons the idea of superheroes. It seems that what I'm saying is true of all superhero comics since it's that narrative itself I take issue with. I don't see how there can be any exceptions unless there's one where the Justice League all have existential crises, build rehabilitative prisons and their own version of the YMCA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobalt__ Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 (edited) I read comics for entertainment and leisure, not to learn morals and ethics(which you can learn everyday outside of comics). Art that engages you and communicates with you by teaching you something will always better than art that you consume passively. Also, either way, you're learning about morals and ethics- it's just with super hero comics you're learning the wrong lesson. The wrong lesson in superhero comics? Justice and doing the right thing is wrong? Yes, if "justice" means defending the status quo at all costs and hospitalising misguided youth. If the Justice League focused on social reform they could eliminate crime forever. There's also the aspect of anti-intellectualism; intelligence being depicted as something that helps you wriggle out of conventional morality. That's why all the villains are intelligent and appear to have doctorates (Dr Doom, Dr Octopus) where as all the heroes appear to be military officers (Captain America, Capitan Marvel etc.). Misguided youth, you mean comic book bad guys? I think you're looking for higher knowledge and morality than what can be found in comic books. Comic books are a form of entertainment, not higher enlightenment on morality issues. Anyways, anybody watch the shows that are spinoffs of comic books? Edited May 8, 2013 by Kobalt__ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Misguided youth, you mean comic book bad guys? I mean the dozens of young muggers and car thieves who get their limbs broken by Superman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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