Evolution: Humans have peaked

[TECHN9CiAN]

I apologize for having posted this elsewhere, but I think this needs to be discussed in its own topic.

This is why I believe the human race is doomed.

 

Do we live in a messed up world? Yes. Is it because of all the social problems that stem from materialism, greed and corruption? Not entirely... I believe that the world is messed up because as people, we have become too nice; we are too sensitive and weak.

 

The majority of the people in the world are selfish. Think back to our ancestors, before modern medicine, electricity, mass production of food, (which has eliminated the need to hunt, and therefore be physically strong,)and all other commodities that make living day by day easier for us. When a person was pregnant, gave birth, and the baby didn't eat, had a diformity, or was sick, what happened? The baby died. When a couple who tried to have a baby, but couldn't due to sterility, what happened? They died of old age, or another cause, without reproducing.

Back then, we had no choice but to follow Darwin's law, where only the strong would survive and the weak die out. Thanks to the many broken hearts of mothers who lost their children, and would-be mothers that couldn't get pregnant, only the strong genes were passed down, which allowed for a stronger human race.

 

Look at the world's people today. We are DEvolving. We're going backwards. In the last few decades, for example, there has been a huge spike in the number of autism cases, a rise in the number of premature births, and many other birth defects, both mental and physical. The messed up thing is that we are debilitating the human race by allowing these people, both those inflicted with the defects, and those who carry them, to reproduce.

 

With today's advances in medicine and technology, we have the ability to flunk god (or whatever higher power you believe in), and ensure that even the weakest new born baby that would have died otherwise, grow up to reproduce more weak children to flood the already overpopulated world. Because of these advances, children, teenagers, and young adults with cancer have access to treatments that allow them to be cured and live happily, passing on their cancer carrying genes to their children, essentially condemning their offspring.

 

The world isn't messed up because a few assholes want to go around murdering other humans. The world is messedp because we don't allow natural selection.

 

The world is messed up because people with diabetes, hypertension, bipolar disorder, and even obesity are allowed to pass on their health flaws.

 

The world is messed up because we chose to forsake the well being of the future human race by being selfish and wanting to protect our feelings by saving those that we love... Those that will only live to taint the gene pool, but refuse to let die because we are selfish.

 

 

IF YOU ARE LAZY AND CHOSE NOT TO READ THIS, JUST UNDERSTAND THIS: THE WORLD IS MESSED UP BEACUSE OF ONE HUMAN FLAW- the ability to love, and inability to control it.

Edited April 15, 2013 by the7ftmidget

[lil weasel]

Evolution: species need to die off to make room for others.

 

[Red XIII]

WARNING, CONSPIRACY NUTCASE AHEAD.

 

The government have spiked our tap water with fluoride to lower iqs and hampers brain development in children so we dumb motherf*ckers question nothing and work hard for minimum wage.

 

TELEVISION corrupts children, TV makes kids think its ok to dress like sluts and to behave like retards. television is the devil, its a huge distraction, it lies to you and makes you DUMB.

 

 

This is want people say, am I a belieber?

[TECHN9CiAN]

 

Evolution:  species need to die off to make room for others.

So going by this, can you expect a strong future for the human race? It may be thousands of years before Homo sapiens evolve, but when they do, do you think they will evolve into a stronger species, like an eagle, or devolve for the worst and die out like a dodo?

We humans are becoming increasingly useless. We don't fend for ourselves any more, scientists believe that our ansestors used to have more than 5 senses, but with the increasing number of "helping hands", and sole providers doing all the hunting for a group of weaker kin, we have lost those senses over time through devolution.

Before we would have to kill to survive, sharpening our senses in the process. now all we do is shop.

[na89340qv0n34b09q340]

It may be thousands of years before Homo sapiens evolve, but when they do, do you think they will evolve into a stronger species, like an eagle,

For a split second I thought you were asking if humans would turn into eagles.

 

 

do you think they will evolve into a stronger species

 

It sounds like you're implying that humans evolve, like they grow a tail to swing from trees or some sh*t. This is not the case- humans will evolve as they need to, certain genes will be out-bred because the people with genes that get them killed will die, or that's how it's supposed to work anyway. Maybe humans will start to abort kids with genetic mental disorders, and evolution could work like that. But time doesn't ensure evolution, and you don't necessarily need a long long time for change to occur.

 

 

We humans are becoming increasingly useless.

 

No, we're just helping the humans that aren't so good off with better technology.

 

 

We don't fend for ourselves any more, scientists believe that our ansestors used to have more than 5 senses, but with the increasing number of "helping hands", and sole providers doing all the hunting for a group of weaker kin, we have lost those senses over time through devolution.

 

We have more than five senses, there's a sense of balance, a sense of emotional shift in people, a sense of muscular coordination, temperature senses, etc. I recall my psychology textbook saying that there were somewhere between fifteen and twenty-four (I don't remember the number, it didn't actually say that) basic senses.

 

 

Before we would have to kill to survive, sharpening our senses in the process. now all we do is shop.

 

That's because of new technology, we've gotten to a point where we don't need to hunt anymore. Although even the most squirmy person could probably go out and kill a squirrel for dinner if they had to, humans are good at adapting when they need to.

 

I don't think it's a bad thing that we have the technology to save the weak ones. The weaker humans aren't stopping you or me from continuing our lives, and there's no health/power quota that the human race needs to achieve for anything. Even if we stopped medicating people with inferior genes they'd still breed because a lot of those people aren't in danger of dying until after they've bred. The alternative is genocide which is no good either.

[Secura]

The whole point is that eventually we'll get to level of being able to evolve ourselves, beyond anything nature could ever develop us into.

 

Mark my words, either we'll obliterate ourselves completely or we'll become gods, there's simply no helping that, this whole idea of devolution presumes that people can't be bettered. We can.

[TECHN9CiAN]

Zoo, I'm not implying that we will evolve into physically superior beings, and the eagle analogy was nothing more than that, an analogy.

 

My beef is that we ARE helping the weak, which is the same as ENABLING the continued existence of weak and genetically inferior humans.

 

Do you really feel comfort in knowing that your descendants will have to adapt to a lifestyle of medications and treatments that wouldn't be necessary if we weeded out those flaws by removing them from our genetic code naturally? I'm sure the technology to remove those flaws artificially exist, but who will benefit from said technology? Only the select wealthy few, while the poorer, yet potentially genetically superior may suffer.

 

Edit: lightningstrike, that will most likely happen, which is my fear. We can be bettered as you put it, but at what expense? The chance of obliterating ourselves? Either way, you would have a genocide of the homosapien. Humanity has already achieved greatness over all other species on earth, the only obstacle now is achieving greatness over ourselves. That's when eugenics will become a hot topic. What's to stop those with power from "evolving" the human into one that can be manipulated and controlled? The artificial way will lead to our destruction. Freedom of mind may be taken from us.

 

The modern homosapien will be separated into 2: the artificially "evolved", and the devolved, naturally or artificially.

 

But either way, physical, if not intelectuL, devolution will happen. Mark my words.

Edited April 15, 2013 by the7ftmidget

[sminem]

I had a world culture & Geography teacher who was convinced that eventually man will evolve to a point where we'll be able levitate and eventually fly. This is the picture he shared with us.

 

[The Pizza Delivery Guy]

I think we are just at that "Annoying Stupid Teenager" period of humanity. We started out as babies, slowly learning the ways of the world. Then we became children, learning new things about the universe but still being directed in our everyday lives by a higher up (church) and now we've reached the rebellious teenager years of humanity, where all we do is fight and yell and steal and cheat and do everything teenagers do. Next we will have the young adult section of our species, where we will slowly mature and use our own knowledge instead of listening to someone else for once. I think we're less than 100 years from this stage.

 

Crazy? Perhaps. Makes sense? Your choice.

[Tchuck]

Devolution is only a thing if you assign a quality to evolution. Evolution is not necessarily for the better, but always for the different. In that sense, devolution does not exist.

 

Now on to your post. You claim we are weak because we have a "huge" spike in the amount of diseases, deformities whatever, and people can survive in spite of that. Has it occurred to you that there has always been the same relative amount of those afflictions, except that now, with our medical knowledge, we can diagnose them even better? Back in decades ago, autism wasn't even a thing. Now we have many ways of diagnosing and even specifying the kinds of autism.

 

Your analysis also rely on only one thing: The physical side of "evolution". Once we started developing our brains rather than our muscles, we switched from a purely physical evolution to a more psychological one. Bears and Gorillas might get stronger every generation, but we get smarter and brains always beats brawn.

 

I see the ability to "flunk" god by fixing his mistakes as a triumph of man over nature, something we should be proud of. No matter how physically advanced any thing else on this planet gets, they will never match our accomplishments.

 

In a way we still have to fend for ourselves. The world doesn't care about you, it only cares about what it can get out of you. If you don't find a way to support yourself, you will perish, your genes will be wiped off the pool.

 

You also speak of evolution as if it's something that happens quickly and swiftly. It isn't. Has it ever occurred to you that some of these deformities you also condemn are a part of evolution trying new things in our bodies? It takes tens of thousands of years for big changes to happen and make a difference. And since we are living on this moment, we won't recognize certain things as "evolving" because we're living it. Thousands of years from now, scientists might look back at us and think "oh, the humans from the 20th century evolved the capacity to do this, to be more this etc".

 

In short, humans haven't peaked. Not by a long shot. Two hundred years ago, we were learning how to make factories and harness steam. One hundred years ago, we were learning how to fly. Sixty years ago we developed the atom bomb. Thirty years ago we were inventing the Internet. It'll take generations and generations until we're using all our fullest capabilities, if that. We have triumphed over nature.