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AEsob

Brainstorm...I practically live inside their heads.

 

It's...Surreal.

 

Both of them think that they are different, but deep down, they are the same.

 

Cruel, Unforgiving killers who are aroused by the blood of their enemies on their hands.

 

One accepts it. The other Rejects.

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Heh, quite cool. I'll just go ahead and do it.

 

Yeah, repair guy just went, there was a major problem with the SMPS.

 

AAAND as a parting gift, the faulty SMPS blew up the first part of the new chapter AND the dossiers.

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Del Perro Dog

Brainstorm...I practically live inside their heads.

 

It's...Surreal.

 

Both of them think that they are different, but deep down, they are the same.

 

Cruel, Unforgiving killers who are aroused by the blood of their enemies on their hands.

 

One accepts it. The other Rejects.

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Heh, quite cool. I'll just go ahead and do it.

 

Yeah, repair guy just went, there was a major problem with the SMPS.

 

AAAND as a parting gift, the faulty SMPS blew up the first part of the new chapter AND the dossiers.

without context this is extremely confusing.

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AEsob

What is confusing and why are you confused. If you are not confused then why are you confused?

 

It is confusing that you are more confused than an extreme.

 

Satisfied?

 

In other words, the SMPS in my CPU was faulty, and fried a whole lot of documents, namely, the dossiers I was making, a whole 1250 word chapter and about 350 words into the new chapter.

 

Plus it corrupted a whole partition on my HDD.

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Mokrie Dela

 

Del Perro Dog:

This is a common problem. I find the trick is to find more inspiration. My current story has a sort of hybrid setting, so I've been watching films and playing certain games that have helped sow the seeds of my design. If you're writing a story about bikers, watch things like Sons of Anarchy; if you're writing about drugs, then Breaking Bad might help; if you're writing a GTA fanfic, of course, play GTA more, but also watch some crime movies. Read books too.

 

Planning is critical, but there are times where you just have to write. I tend to write chapters/scenes, even during the planning process. Later on, I incorperate them into the plot and story (though sometimes you have to axe them).

 

Sometimes, you just need a break. Sometimes you need a fresh perspective, and I find that working on something else is good at times - it changes your mental gears, and still has you working on your writing. One Shots, another story you've been working on. Be careful about having 2 stories on the go at the same time, though. Keep one as your primary focus, and use the other to help refresh you, and come back to it later.

 

Sometimes you have to brute force it. Just write, even if you're not feeling it. At least you've got something. It might be crap, and you might delete it in the edit, but you might have a small diamond in the rough.

 

Also, as strange as it sounds, exercise. Visit the gym, and pump some iron, go for a run. Get those endorphins going. Get yourself pumped. I find I write quite a lot at the gym, in between sets. It might not be the best I've written but i've got some decent clippings from doing that, and ideas may well still follow.

 

Consider your writing enviroment, too. Are you writing in a noisey place? Do you need somewhere uninterrupted? You could visit your local library and write, or take your laptop to a coffee shop (this is a popular choice, though I've never fancied it), or to the beach or a park. Go for a walk and find some nice vistas to chill in front of and soak up some inspiration. Go and sit in the park and just observe people. Slightly loose morals, but listen to passing conversations, and jot them down, maybe even thinking up little backstories to go with them. Look at people and describe them. When you're going to work, instead of killing time with Candy Crush, write little scenes or dialogues with your characters. Growin those characters can often help when you feel burned out about your story; the character will start tugging at your sleeve.

A lot of ideas to try out here.

 

For a side project I might make a choose your own adventure comedy book, just some light writing to pass the time.

 

For writing environments I have my bed...maybe out on the deck, that's about it. Can't get around much without a license where I live.

 

I might try the listening into conversations, could be interesting and a nice thing to do during the long bores in class where I can't access my laptop. I've started plastering it with sticky notes every time I think of a scene.

 

Just don't let any education suffer man :p

 

Writing enviroments - everyone has their own. Some people like quiet sanctuaries, shut door, closed blinds. Some prefer something more active, like a park. There's the nonsensical ones like with the TV on, or on the train. Some writers can only write on yellow notepads, or laying in bed at 3AM. Experiment with different times of day, too - first thing in the morning, last thing at night, on your lunch break etc. And remember, even half an hour of writing is good, there's going to be days where you get very little done. In those days, the act of writing itself is what counts - the brain is a muscle, so it craves exercise.

 

Brainstorm...I practically live inside their heads.

 

It's...Surreal.

 

Both of them think that they are different, but deep down, they are the same.

 

Cruel, Unforgiving killers who are aroused by the blood of their enemies on their hands.

 

One accepts it. The other Rejects.

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Heh, quite cool. I'll just go ahead and do it.

 

Yeah, repair guy just went, there was a major problem with the SMPS.

 

AAAND as a parting gift, the faulty SMPS blew up the first part of the new chapter AND the dossiers.

Your powersupply blew up your story? You mean while writing them?

Backups my man.

 

Says the guy who keeps "forgetting" to do his own!

 

 

What is confusing and why are you confused. If you are not confused then why are you confused?

 

It is confusing that you are more confused than an extreme.

 

Satisfied?

 

In other words, the SMPS in my CPU was faulty, and fried a whole lot of documents, namely, the dossiers I was making, a whole 1250 word chapter and about 350 words into the new chapter.

 

Plus it corrupted a whole partition on my HDD.

Ah, HDD corruption. That's a bitch.

 

Don't confuse the guy though man. If he gets confused, and posts, and we don't know he's confused, then we'll get confused and then I'll be confused because he's confused because you're confused, and we'll all have a f*cking headache... :p

 

 

In other news, I got some stuff written this morning, and more at the gym. Dunno why that place works so well for me. Must be the blood pumping or something. My character's growing, and I think I've identified a problem that has been hindering my progress; pacing. Similar to the problem Fallout had; the story's taking too long to get going. Too many useless details I'm getting bogged down with.

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AEsob

Oh no, don't have a headache.

 

Pacing? Get rid of all the non-pacy parts.

 

Think of it, like, an onion...layers.

 

Get the base done first, about 500 or something words...that is the main part, or where the action is.

 

Then wrap it with layers, edit stuff, and read it till you are satisfied.

 

First layer, more info.

Second layer, a bit more info, balanced by a little action...or not.

Third layer...mundane things.

Fourth layer...a bit more mundane, balanced by style.

 

I am in no position to actually advise you, but the above method does work for me.

 

I prefer less action, more psychological...but when it is absolutely required...bring out THE GORE!

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Mokrie Dela

Nah, man, advising people is good - it's a great thing to practice. You need these skills to edit your own work, and people of all abilities should be able to take advice and be approachable.

 

Pacing is tricky, but important. You can't have constant action or constant inaction. You need conflict, and resolution, be it on a grand or small scale. The sentences become like breathing; when sh*t goes down, you don't have time for long, slow breaths, but shorter, quicker ones. Events also come into play - which is where I was having trouble. Too much description about, quite frankly, nothing, while nothing actually happening.

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AEsob

That's not a bad thing.

 

Think about it like its a calm day, the character goes on describing things at length. Then the sh*t goes down.

 

In other places, just have to shrug off things, or go into flashbacks...you know more about it than I do!

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Mokrie Dela

Yeah, that's how it usually works.

 

But if you sat and watched a film, that has a character walking, nothing else, just walking, for 90 mins, then shoots a man and the film ends... .that'd be a bit sh*t :p

 

I've had a brilliant day in terms of writing. Got a really nice chain of events, broken by slowness but i'm really feeling the pace better now.

 

And writing it, I can't resist any more. I'm actually itching to put RDR in, like a junkie, or a very hungry man being shown food for the last 3 hours.... Time to eat, metaphorically, then time to eat literally.

 

good to see this place a bit more active. Someone bump the One Shots topic! :p (possibly my favourite topic on the entire forum)

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AEsob

Yeah, one shots...I was going to write one, but it seems the topic went just a little out of place.

 

You watch a man with a gun in his hand, and a broken mind walk into the rain, spout poetic one-liners and have black and white flashbacks, and finally have him shoot a guy in the end...it won't be sh*t, it'd be Max Payne cool.

 

Aesob

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Yu Jian

Haven't began writing my story yet. I had a couple "rough drafts" but I didn't like the direction either one was going in. Hmm.

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Mokrie Dela

That's fine man. Rough drafts are just that: rough. Sometimes you do have to delete bits or start again. Don't worry about it, you'll eventually find something that makes it just click

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Papi Chulo

Lowball. I envision writing a script based on my GTA Online character; help sharping up my grammar, skills are lacking, as you can tell. I need help laying out the script format. What do I start on first, I like micromanaging. characters, plot, or missions?


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Mokrie Dela

Scripts are not something I'm good on. I simply can not help on that front.

 

There are a few scripts around here that have had feedback showing how to write it out, what font etc. Google might also help with the format and layout.

 

 

The first thing to start on is always characters or plot - depending on your approach. At least that's what I do. I have a concept and try to build on it. I begin designing my characters very soon. The plot - thats a dynamic evolution for me. I'll have a basic storyline but it'll change and grow throughout the planning process, sometimes even while writing.

 

I've got a guide going into the 8 point arc more deeply but make sure you main plotline covers all 8 points. you want it well structured.

 

Know your character's backstory. What has made them who they are? What do they want from the upcoming events? Where are they heading?

 

If you fully plan the plot and characters, you're most way there.

 

Missions are generally "chapters". They can often carry subplots to make it more interesting but the main plot is still there. Plan the missions last in my opinion. Plot and Character I'd work on first - and they can go hand in hand.

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AEsob

Okay meaningless update, I went into writing mode...then got bogged down in making the third person narrative error free.

 

I think I should change the narrative to a Cop who has been tasked to guard the target. (The target is a politician)

 

First person narrative.

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Mokrie Dela

Well as I said, until you try it out, you won't know. It often just clicks. Remember that the narrator is another character - whether it's the protagonist or a different one, the person telling the story has their own voice. If it's another character, generally he becomes the protagonist. If its a cop, and he's guarding a target that these other characters are going to try to kill, then they will be a source of conflict - the antagonists.

 

Who's story is it? Who is the central character? If you're doing first person, you can make things much more personal, so the 1st person narrator generally is the protagonist. Changes such as these are okay, sometimes necessary, but as with what I said before,make sure you plan it out, especially if you have doubts or uncertainties at this point in time.

 

And don't worry too much about making it error free - that comes later. Just write it. By all means write it as best you can as you go, but don't get bogged down on each paragraph correcting every little error. This is what the proof read/edit is for. Just write it, then come back to it and then make sure it's all in order. Again, my guide might help you a little here.

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AEsob

Okay, meaningless update. 672 words down. Third person with narrator, just the character's description.

 

Anybody with free time, please check out "Her soul smiles relentlessly" by reiniat.

 

Aesob

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Mokrie Dela

Writing my newest project, and while I've got some good stuff (having deleted sh*t loads) something's pulling at me. I think I need to make the change from 3rd to 1st person. The protagonist has no name - well he does, but i do not plan to reveal it. He's got a long and checkered history, and doesn't want to tell people personal details. because he has no name, refering to him as "the man" is getting tedious and the perspective is getting a little messy. switching to first person will rectify this, but i'm not 100%. I don't know if i want the story to be him recounting it, as I'm not sure it suits the character, but also I'm really f*cking tempted by the "unreliable narrator" which is something I haven't tried yet, and has always entralled me.

 

I have, however, written half a damned page on what his breakfast is. My priorities are correct i feel. Food above all else.

 

I think i will have to re-write what i've got in first person and compare the two to see which works. I'm simply sharing this because of recent conversations, and i feel it applies.

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AEsob

Okay, go for 'unreliable narrator', that throws in extra twists and turns when you would least expect it.

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Mokrie Dela

well, I know that :p

 

I'm simply considering it, as such a change does involve rewriting a lot.

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albanyave

Nice discourse there Mokrie and AEsob. I think I learned a thing or two. I'm working on a GTA IV FF and an original story. I'm fairly far along on each project. Don't know which one I'll post yet. The original story takes place immediately after Breach of Security; a story I posted a while back.

 

I like how both stories have developed and I really want to complete both.

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Mokrie Dela

I liked breach of security. Would love to see it continued and improved upon :)

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AEsob

Tis' time.

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Mokrie Dela

I aint going to say much, but someone might have a GTA V fanfic in the works. Might.

 

I've had to take a break from my other story. It's still going, but it's become a grind, and the results aren't too great. Returning to it afresh is what's needed.

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Ziggy455

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I've been on a hiatus trying to sort out my University which has been a big pain, but I'm back now and looking forward to getting my ass back into gear. I'm thinking of re-building my old GTA III Fanfic and get it out of the way to really get myself moving. It has come to my attention I have a knack for never finishing what I start; part problem with my story design, part problem with how I tackle characters. I'm glad to be back.

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Moonlight Traffic

 

I've been on a hiatus trying to sort out my University which has been a big pain, but I'm back now and looking forward to getting my ass back into gear. I'm thinking of re-building my old GTA III Fanfic and get it out of the way to really get myself moving. It has come to my attention I have a knack for never finishing what I start; part problem with my story design, part problem with how I tackle characters. I'm glad to be back.

 

That sounds great :D

 

Also, *cough* VP is back too *cough*

 

I missed you guys so much, but I been so overwhelmed with school work and revision that it's been near impossible to get enough freetime to write. I'm here to help out if any of you need any support or y'know, that kinda shizz.

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Ziggy455

Welcome back, VP, Moonlight. Glad to see you're alive. And it's not about quantity, it's about quality. Even writing small amounts is better than no amounts.

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Mokrie Dela

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I've been on a hiatus trying to sort out my University which has been a big pain, but I'm back now and looking forward to getting my ass back into gear. I'm thinking of re-building my old GTA III Fanfic and get it out of the way to really get myself moving. It has come to my attention I have a knack for never finishing what I start; part problem with my story design, part problem with how I tackle characters. I'm glad to be back.

Man it's good to see some familiar faces again.

 

And yeah, Ziggy, I think we all have a tendency to do that. It takes stamina to follow through with a story, and discipline to keep it up. JIF was the last story I finished. I don't even want to know how long ago that was, and my next story is way, way, way overdue.

 

Welcome back guys.

 

 

EDIT: I'm not sure what's driving me, but I'm getting some serious writing (quantity) in this GTA FF. I think i have a title too.

Honor Among Thieves. What you all think? What's it make you think of?

 

Got like half a dozen heists planned out, small to large to huge (one makes the UD heist in V look small :D)

 

I have concepts of returning characters and tie ins, just trying to find a solid thread to tie them together.

 

I'm trying to blend the vibe of GTA V and the feel of COL, too, while also trying to see if either of those stories match up with GTA V's canon. JIF doesn't match up with GTA V's canon. COL.... might....

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GreatScott04

I didn't realise there was a writing section on here.

 

I haven't written anything for years, but after checking out a few stories I'm starting to feel the itch to pick up a pen again...

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Mokrie Dela

Go for it man!

 

Yeah, we're a small, quiet corner, but anyone serious about writing is more than welcome. Feel free to leave feedback on anyone's work, too.

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Ziggy455

I didn't realise there was a writing section on here.

 

I haven't written anything for years, but after checking out a few stories I'm starting to feel the itch to pick up a pen again...

 

If you write anything I'm sure Mokrie and me will at least give it a decent bash.

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