The Writers' Room

[Eminence]

Osric, buddy, every time you try to revive this you always open with something like "I know this will upset some people" or whatever, haha. Listen, nobody's upset. It's just that we know it's not going to work out.

 

It's not going to work out because you're focusing so much energy on absolutely pointless details, like each faction's weapons and vehicles. Honestly, what effect is that going to have on anything? It's non-information. There's nothing different here compared to the dozen other times you've tried to get this game off the ground.

 

It baffles the mind a little.

[Osric]

Osric, buddy, every time you try to revive this you always open with something like "I know this will upset some people" or whatever, haha. Listen, nobody's upset. It's just that we know it's not going to work out.

 

It's not going to work out because you're focusing so much energy on absolutely pointless details, like each faction's weapons and vehicles. Honestly, what effect is that going to have on anything? It's non-information. There's nothing different here compared to the dozen other times you've tried to get this game off the ground.

 

It baffles the mind a little.

You are pretty much right, and as I have told you in my PM I just sent you, I have decided to put BUYS aside and write a story based on some of my ideas for it. It is called Russian Orthodox Church (a simple title, but it makes sense because all the characters so far are Russian Orthodox and the main location is a fortified church) and takes place during a zombie outbreak.

 

Any feedback would be appreciated.

 

Here's the first chapter, a brief introduction.

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...entry1062980242

[Vercetti42]

Playing GTA IV a lot now and I'm considering taking a small break from The Darkest Hour and write a prequel for GTA IV. About Roman's past, Roman 10 years ago, seeking the American Dream.

 

 

Ace whistles for Mokrie, Eminence and Ziggy.

 

Edit: I'll leave this later, I'm thinking of a script.

 

And Osric, I assure you I most certainly won't be taking part.

Edited August 18, 2013 by AceKingston

[Acehilm]

Playing GTA IV a lot now and I'm considering taking a small break from The Darkest Hour and write a prequel for GTA IV. About Roman's past, Roman 10 years ago, seeking the American Dream.

 

 

Ace whistles for Mokrie, Eminence and Ziggy.

Sounds interesting, Ace. I've tried to make fan-fiction before, and strangely, it gets more attention then some orignal work.

 

I've always wanted to make a prequel of IV that leads up to a terrorist attack that occurs in Algonquin and is almost mentioned at the beginning of IV when Roman mentions, something along the lines of, "Terrorist, f*cking terrorists. You can not cross the bridges, so good,"

It would be an interesting idea in my mind.

[Vercetti42]

 

Playing GTA IV a lot now and I'm considering taking a small break from The Darkest Hour and write a prequel for GTA IV. About Roman's past, Roman 10 years ago, seeking the American Dream.

 

 

Ace whistles for Mokrie, Eminence and Ziggy.

Sounds interesting, Ace. I've tried to make fan-fiction before, and strangely, it gets more attention then some orignal work.

 

I've always wanted to make a prequel of IV that leads up to a terrorist attack that occurs in Algonquin and is almost mentioned at the beginning of IV when Roman mentions, something along the lines of, "Terrorist, f*cking terrorists. You can not cross the bridges, so good,"

It would be an interesting idea in my mind.

I'll leave this later, I'm thinking of a video game script. Something like, I dunno...

 

[Mokrie Dela]

Playing GTA IV a lot now and I'm considering taking a small break from The Darkest Hour and write a prequel for GTA IV. About Roman's past, Roman 10 years ago, seeking the American Dream.

 

 

Ace whistles for Mokrie, Eminence and Ziggy.

Sounds interesting, Ace. I've tried to make fan-fiction before, and strangely, it gets more attention then some orignal work.

 

I've always wanted to make a prequel of IV that leads up to a terrorist attack that occurs in Algonquin and is almost mentioned at the beginning of IV when Roman mentions, something along the lines of, "Terrorist, f*cking terrorists. You can not cross the bridges, so good,"

It would be an interesting idea in my mind.

sounds familiar

 

Seriously though why not

 

I think ff gets more views because of association; it's tied in to the existing product so it becomes more interesting from the off - its a sequel of sorts and you can set up nice references etc. original works require you starting from nothing, so there's nothing to back-reference. In many ways its easie as the world and characters already exist but it's a double edges sword as you're limited by them and it can be hard to write their characters.

 

I would defo read that!

 

Gta-meets Tom Clancy haha

 

 

[Vercetti42]

Playing GTA IV a lot now and I'm considering taking a small break from The Darkest Hour and write a prequel for GTA IV. About Roman's past, Roman 10 years ago, seeking the American Dream.

 

 

Ace whistles for Mokrie, Eminence and Ziggy.

Sounds interesting, Ace. I've tried to make fan-fiction before, and strangely, it gets more attention then some orignal work.

 

I've always wanted to make a prequel of IV that leads up to a terrorist attack that occurs in Algonquin and is almost mentioned at the beginning of IV when Roman mentions, something along the lines of, "Terrorist, f*cking terrorists. You can not cross the bridges, so good,"

It would be an interesting idea in my mind.

sounds familiar

 

Seriously though why not

 

I think ff gets more views because of association; it's tied in to the existing product so it becomes more interesting from the off - its a sequel of sorts and you can set up nice references etc. original works require you starting from nothing, so there's nothing to back-reference. In many ways its easie as the world and characters already exist but it's a double edges sword as you're limited by them and it can be hard to write their characters.

 

I would defo read that!

 

Gta-meets Tom Clancy haha

I've only been playing IV for 2 days ha ha but I'm really enjoying it. Have not finished it yet, so I'm thinking of writing a video game script or a TV script. The tool which VP posted in the Resource topic seems pretty good for script writing.

[MacAshford]

 

Playing GTA IV a lot now and I'm considering taking a small break from The Darkest Hour and write a prequel for GTA IV. About Roman's past, Roman 10 years ago, seeking the American Dream.

 

 

Ace whistles for Mokrie, Eminence and Ziggy.

Sounds interesting, Ace. I've tried to make fan-fiction before, and strangely, it gets more attention then some orignal work.

 

I've always wanted to make a prequel of IV that leads up to a terrorist attack that occurs in Algonquin and is almost mentioned at the beginning of IV when Roman mentions, something along the lines of, "Terrorist, f*cking terrorists. You can not cross the bridges, so good,"

It would be an interesting idea in my mind.

sounds familiar

 

Seriously though why not

 

I think ff gets more views because of association; it's tied in to the existing product so it becomes more interesting from the off - its a sequel of sorts and you can set up nice references etc. original works require you starting from nothing, so there's nothing to back-reference. In many ways its easie as the world and characters already exist but it's a double edges sword as you're limited by them and it can be hard to write their characters.

 

I would defo read that!

 

Gta-meets Tom Clancy haha

I've only been playing IV for 2 days ha ha but I'm really enjoying it. Have not finished it yet, so I'm thinking of writing a video game script or a TV script. The tool which VP posted in the Resource topic seems pretty good for script writing.

StoryBook will help you tons. And if you're really serious about your project then you might want to get the upgrade for extra features though it is great on its own.

 

EDIT: After much time editing and re-writing, the next mission is finally up

Edited August 18, 2013 by Vice President

[Ziggy455]

I'm trying to just research at the moment. Not to make my writing sound intelligent, but more on the fact that I need to know a little bit more about astrophysics and how space-travel/spaceships work. I feel like I'm going in as an amateur by making a bunch of long-worded functions up.

[Mokrie Dela]

I've designed a really cool outfit for one of my projects. I have a few sketches, though my ability with a pencil is lacking somewhat. I may consider making a request in the GFX section for some computerised version of it......

 

When the project goes live, the sketches would be shared, but how to do this - post them as pics, or as subtler links?

[MacAshford]

Mokrie, GFX is super simple once you get the hang of it. Rather than remaking it, you could take a pic of the drawing then go over it in photoshop, simple stuff really. Just go over it in the dark pencil then add colour. That's how Patrick Brown does his stuff too, you know, the GTA drawer guy.

[Osric]

So, for those who have read it, what do you guys think of Russian Orthodox Church so far?

[Ziggy455]

Went rooting through some charity shops -which are resourceful havens of books- and came across Arthur C. Clarke's Odyssey two and three! Apparently Clarke was a pioneer in physics and science-fiction space travel so I'll be digesting as much of his work and taking notes on the technical stuff to improve my understanding of Science-Fiction, which I believe is white whale in writing.

[MacAshford]

@Osric - I'll check it out

 

@Ziggy - That's great, charity shops near me are only full of old wedding dresses and junk lol. I kind of need your advice on something (don't worry it's not a life problem ), I'll message you next time you're online on FB if that's ok. It'd be great if you could help, thanks

[PerceptortheShootist]

I'm starting to form what I want in my first season, and my pilot as well. I just need to do a script for the pilot!

 

Say, is it right to spread my synopsis to everyone? I managed to shorten it to the absolutely most important details and it got the interest of everybody I've talked to.

 

A made man runs a robot empire to be able to bring justice and truth back into America.

[MacAshford]

Guys, I've been away for a few days. To make up for it, I'm sharing this

 

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas Script

[Eminence]

I'm starting to form what I want in my first season, and my pilot as well. I just need to do a script for the pilot!

 

Say, is it right to spread my synopsis to everyone? I managed to shorten it to the absolutely most important details and it got the interest of everybody I've talked to.

 

A made man runs a robot empire to be able to bring justice and truth back into America.

Starting to get a little better – very succinct, which is great! Also, spreading it to people can be an excellent way of judging whether your concept is any good. If you've shared it with people and they've been intrigued by it, then that's fantastic!

 

However, I'd argue that you could improve on this description just a little by elaborating on the conflict a little more. Who is standing in his way? Why does he have to bring justice back into America?

 

Again, try and keep it as short and concise as possible, but be wary of reducing it to something a little too broad or vague.

[Osric]

You know what, I am very tempted to write a vampire story.

[MacAshford]

Hoping you guys could give me a bit of feedback on something I gave a quick try

 

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INT. POWERBASS RECORDS – NIGHT

 

A man with short, messy, black hair sits alone with his head on his desk in a small, tidy room. His name is LEON, he doesn't look old, maybe in his late twenties. Slowly, he raises his head in silence and stands up and brushes the dust off his suit.

 

 

LEON (V.O)

Powerbass Records, that was how I earned a living... Dubstep was in high demand, it had finally moved from warehouse parties to mainstream TV channels. I knew I had to jump on the bandwagon. My grandfather owned a recording studio, downtown, where he recorded his soul music.

 

Leon makes his way the large window behind him, most of the city is in view. Streetlights shine down onto the busy roads filled with racing sports cars and nightlife tour busses. The skyscrapers light up the sky, engulfing it in a colourful neon glow.

 

 

LEON (V.O)

I got a few artists onto my label, constantly pushing their music out and gaining them new fans. We got a couple of platinums, a few golds too... but nothing could compare to the money it brought in. I had a millions of dollars in the bank.

 

Leon continues to glare silently at the city as his face fills with rage.

 

 

LEON (V.O)

I developed an addiction to pretty much everything; blew the money real fast. The artists weren’t impressed, they drifted away as did the dubstep craze. Now, here I am, with nothing... staring as the city continues to change before my eyes.

 

[TonyZimmzy]

Back writing. Gonna get the War act (chapters seven through twelve) of Empires done through the next two weeks until V is released. Stuff. Things. Okay, I better continue writing after I eat this hurr massive cooked chicken abrabrabrab

[Mokrie Dela]

I've got a new project on the go.

 

It's called Black Raven, and it's not Fan Fiction. That's all I can say atm without hindering the creative process. I'm probably going to upload it periodically.

[Ziggy455]

Awesome, Tony, and awesome, Mokrie! It'd be cool to see what you guys are bringing out. Looking forward to seeing some new material. Black Raven has an espionage feel to it for some reason for me. Not sure if that's the way you're going but we'll see soon enough. And I'm getting into Empires as I write this, Tony, I'll comment when I'm done.

 

As for me, I'm continuing and finishing Innocence and Loneliness. Just getting everything down I want about understanding the characters to feel creatively free to shape them in the writing process.

[TonyZimmzy]

I'm continuing and finishing Innocence and Loneliness.

Please.

[Ziggy455]

Character notes: I'm not meticulous. I just believe you gotta know what you're writing about if you've invested time and 80,000 words.

 

[Mokrie Dela]

Awesome, Tony, and awesome, Mokrie! It'd be cool to see what you guys are bringing out. Looking forward to seeing some new material. Black Raven has an espionage feel to it for some reason for me. Not sure if that's the way you're going but we'll see soon enough. And I'm getting into Empires as I write this, Tony, I'll comment when I'm done.

 

As for me, I'm continuing and finishing Innocence and Loneliness. Just getting everything down I want about understanding the characters to feel creatively free to shape them in the writing process.

You're not actually far off, ziggs

glad to hear youre finishing I&L

[MacAshford]

YAY! I'm sensing huge activeness (if thats the word) from you all:D

 

 

EDIT: After a loaaaaaaaaaaad of experimenting with different types of fiction, I've found something fresh I can work on Project Avalon is still on though, the other thing is just a side project.

Edited September 3, 2013 by Vice President

[Osric]

I need to resume work on both Russian Orthodox Church and Vincent the Vampire.

 

And I have a Sailor Moon/Dungeons & Dragons crossover fanfic on another site I need to update as well. College really eats up one's time.

[Eminence]

I have a feeling my time is going to be eaten up trying to navigate this new layout...

[Ziggy455]

This layout is terrible. I like the new posting options because it's easier than manually typing in [/this] and [/that] but the layout seems too modern for my liking.

Edited September 6, 2013 by Ziggy455

[Typhus]

Completed the first draft of my novel. Going right onto writing the sequel. I have three stories I want to tell with characters I absolutely f*cking adore. It's hard to properly articulate just how good these characters have made me feel and the slump they've pulled me out of.

My only hope is that one day everyone else can enjoy them, because I'd love to use my writing to make people smile and really stop them turning into me.