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In GTA4 the friend system was kinda limited in certain aspects. For example...

 

1) You could only hang out with one friend at a time. I think it wouldve been cool to be able to hang out with multiple friends at once. If I'm not mistaken you could have up to 7 ppl following you around in SA and even in Saints Row. 3 would get in the car with you and the other 4 would follow you in another car. Up to 7 would be cool again but I would be fine with at least 3. I think it wouldve been hilarious to see Brucie, Roman and Packie out together.

 

2) You couldnt do random missions with the friends. Once you pick them up to hang out all you could do was go eat or do one of the minigames. You couldn't do any of the side missions like the hitman missions, most wanted missions in the cop cars, etc. The only ppl you could do random missions with was Dwayne's backup. I though that was cool bcuz doing mission by myself was kinda boring sometimes. I should be able to hang out with any of the contacts and do side missions with them just like I could with Dwaynes backup.

 

3) You couldnt use their benefit while hanging out with them. What I mean is say I'm hanging out with Lil Jacob and do some random stuff that causes me to lose ammo and my vest. I had to go to the gun store even tho I'm with the weapons guy. Why couldnt I just go to the back of his trunk (if we were in his car) and buy weapons like normal OR if we're in my car why cant there be an icon on the map for his car and we can just drive to it so I can buy weapons?

 

4) You couldnt communicate with them. After their dialog was finished they pretty much went silent for the rest of the time you're hanging out. It then felt more like they were just tagging along than hanging out. I'd like to be able to communicate with them via the d-pad (while locked onto them with the left trigger). Up on the d-pad to ask/respond positive and down to ask/respond negative. So if I want to ask them something I would target them with the left trigger then hit up/down on the d-pad they would respond. If they ask me something I would target them and hit up/down on the d-pad to respond. Your responces would increase or decrease the like and respect stat. This communication system should also be present during missions too. We also should be able to ask/respond random NPC's on the street as well. It would make for some funny altercations. So far it seems the only form of communicting we will get in V is flippin them off. lol Thats funny and all but I think we should be able to do alot more than that.

 

5) Your friends never drove their own cars. We always had to drive them. It was kinda annoying to go pick up a friend and their car was sitting right there but they would say "we need to find a car". lol Another thing is you always had to go pick them up. I'd like them to come pick me up sometimes. Maybe if I call them to hang out while in a car already then they would ask to be picked up but if I'm on foot my character would ask to be picked up instead. Also, when they come pick me up I'd like to be able to make them drive like LA Noire. In IV when you did the drug wars with A&H they would drive up then Armando would move over forcing me to drive. I think he should've just stayed in the drivers seat. Sometimes I want to be a passenger so I can concentrate more on shooting. It should work just like the cabs. When my friends drive up they should stay in the car and if I "hold" Y I will get in as a passenger but if I tap Y they will slide over and let me drive.

 

Just some things I thought about when playing GTA4 again. Thoughts?

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Great suggestions icon14.gif Especially the multiple friends thing, but I think this was actually confirmed in the GI preview, although I'm not sure. It did say you could hang out with the other two protagonists, but at the same time? Not sure.

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I would suggest not having the friend be halfway across the damn map every time you choose to go out. Maybe across half of the map sometimes, but not every time.

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I would suggest not having the friend be halfway across the damn map every time you choose to go out. Maybe across half of the map sometimes, but not every time.

Yeah and give us more than 2 f*cking minutes to get there.

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Great suggestions icon14.gif Especially the multiple friends thing, but I think this was actually confirmed in the GI preview, although I'm not sure. It did say you could hang out with the other two protagonists, but at the same time? Not sure.

Hopefully multiple at the same time.

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I think it has been confirmed that there will be no friend or girlfriend activities.

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Capricornus
I think it has been confirmed that there will be no friend or girlfriend activities.

There is hanging with the other protagonist, just no girlfriends.

 

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gsbadreligion

i hope they have a good friends system imagine inviting like 3 friends and getting hammered at a bar and getting into a huge brawl

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I would suggest not having the friend be halfway across the damn map every time you choose to go out. Maybe across half of the map sometimes, but not every time.

Yeah and give us more than 2 f*cking minutes to get there.

Yeah, but that was fixed in TBOGT, they gave you 2 hours (ingame).

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I would suggest not having the friend be halfway across the damn map every time you choose to go out. Maybe across half of the map sometimes, but not every time.

Yeah and give us more than 2 f*cking minutes to get there.

Yeah, but that was fixed in TBOGT, they gave you 2 hours (ingame).

Yeah, 4 real life minutes, which is enough. Seeing as though GTAV map is so much bigger, I hope they take into account how far away your character currently is from the friend you are calling and adjusts the time accordingly i.e. if you are the other side of LS, give us 2 hours in game. Other side of map - 6 hours in game or maybe more.

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I would suggest not having the friend be halfway across the damn map every time you choose to go out. Maybe across half of the map sometimes, but not every time.

Yeah and give us more than 2 f*cking minutes to get there.

Yeah, but that was fixed in TBOGT, they gave you 2 hours (ingame).

Yeah, 4 real life minutes, which is enough. Seeing as though GTAV map is so much bigger, I hope they take into account how far away your character currently is from the friend you are calling and adjusts the time accordingly i.e. if you are the other side of LS, give us 2 hours in game. Other side of map - 6 hours in game or maybe more.

I agree. I hated when Packie called me to do something in GTA IV, I accepted, I'm in broker but he is in Alderney at the prison. I found out myselft being late because he's on the other side of the map.

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Yeah, 4 real life minutes, which is enough. Seeing as though GTAV map is so much bigger, I hope they take into account how far away your character currently is from the friend you are calling and adjusts the time accordingly i.e. if you are the other side of LS, give us 2 hours in game. Other side of map - 6 hours in game or maybe more.

I would just use a taxi in this case but I agree. An adjustment should be made for the times I want to drive.

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Yeah, 4 real life minutes, which is enough. Seeing as though GTAV map is so much bigger, I hope they take into account how far away your character currently is from the friend you are calling and adjusts the time accordingly i.e. if you are the other side of LS, give us 2 hours in game. Other side of map - 6 hours in game or maybe more.

I would just use a taxi in this case but I agree. An adjustment should be made for the times I want to drive.

Taxis are good when they're around, but even in IV if I was not in algonquin I would always have trouble finding a cab. BOGT and TLAD also didn't have cabs you could call, so I'd sometimes get stuck waiting far too long for a cab to spawn already. And that was without having to keep the cab still for the friend.

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Yeah I know what you mean man in those cases. I wonder why R* didn't make the yellow cabs available from the phone. I understand Luis not having Roman's cab service available but they could've allowed us to call the yellow cabs.

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4) You couldnt communicate with them. After their dialog was finished they pretty much went silent for the rest of the time you're hanging out. It then felt more like they were just tagging along than hanging out. I'd like to be able to communicate with them via the d-pad (while locked onto them with the left trigger). Up on the d-pad to ask/respond positive and down to ask/respond negative. So if I want to ask them something I would target them with the left trigger then hit up/down on the d-pad they would respond. If they ask me something I would target them and hit up/down on the d-pad to respond. Your responces would increase or decrease the like and respect stat. This communication system should also be present during missions too. We also should be able to ask/respond random NPC's on the street as well. It would make for some funny altercations. So far it seems the only form of communicting we will get in V is flippin them off. lol Thats funny and all but I think we should be able to do alot more than that.

 

5) Your friends never drove their own cars. We always had to drive them. It was kinda annoying to go pick up a friend and their car was sitting right there but they would say "we need to find a car". lol Another thing is you always had to go pick them up. I'd like them to come pick me up sometimes. Maybe if I call them to hang out while in a car already then they would ask to be picked up but if I'm on foot my character would ask to be picked up instead. Also, when they come pick me up I'd like to be able to make them drive like LA Noire. In IV when you did the drug wars with A&H they would drive up then Armando would move over forcing me to drive. I think he should've just stayed in the drivers seat. Sometimes I want to be a passenger so I can concentrate more on shooting. It should work just like the cabs. When my friends drive up they should stay in the car and if I "hold" Y I will get in as a passenger but if I tap Y they will slide over and let me drive.

 

Just some things I thought about when playing GTA4 again. Thoughts?

Totally agree

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I really like the ideas.

 

I enjoyed IV's friends system, and from what I've read it seems like they won't bug you as much if at all which will get the naysayers what they want as well.

 

The biggest point I agree with is the multiple friends at once with TLAD and TBoGT you had this, but it was forced, I allways wanted to hang out with Little Jacob and Packie at once. I hope this time you can do it as an option. I'd be cool geting Franklin and then Lamar, and then going and get Michael or Trevor and see how they interact with Lamar. Obviously Michael or Trevor shouldn't be able to call Lamar, and Franklin shouldn't be able to call Michael's or Trevor's friends as well to hang out either unless it fits with the story.

 

I also like the idea of them picking you up or driving once in awhile, it's not a big deal, I'm fine driving but it'd be a nice option. Why is it allways assumed I want to drive everywhere. (I guess with the Protags being able to hang out, we'd be able to do this just swap to the one in the other seat, change when you need to lol.)

 

Another thought is I hope we can do some crimes together, with the criminally inclined friends, I mean if Packie and Niko are hanging out, and they see a bank truck why can't Packie go "Hey Niko...look at that score just waiting to happen."

 

Also it'd be cool if non Protagonist friends (Which I assume they'll be in) appeared randomly out and about on the map as well and we could go find them and start an activity that way.

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I agree, good points. The friend system was alright, but needed some improvements.

 

Niko: Hey Roman...

 

Roman: NIKO, LET'S GO SEE SOME TITTIES MY COUSIN

 

Niko: Okay, I'll pick you up

 

Roman: YEAH I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE f*ckING MAP, COME PICK ME UP IN AROUND 30 SECONDS

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I agree, good points. The friend system was alright, but needed some improvements.

 

Niko: Hey Roman...

 

Roman: NIKO, LET'S GO SEE SOME TITTIES MY COUSIN

 

Niko: Okay, I'll pick you up

 

Roman: YEAH I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE f*ckING MAP, COME PICK ME UP IN AROUND 30 SECONDS

I'm pretty sure the time allowed was increased in TLAD and TBOGT, but yeah it sucked having to get them from the other side of the map.

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Cutter De Blanc

I wonder what will happen if I have let's say Michael call up Franklin to hang out, and Franklin is like "Yeah, whatever pick me up in 2 hours" and then I switch to Franklin. I wonder if Michael will still show up.

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In GTA4 the friend system was kinda limited in certain aspects. For example...

 

1) You could only hang out with one friend at a time. I think it wouldve been cool to be able to hang out with multiple friends at once. If I'm not mistaken you could have up to 7 ppl following you around in SA and even in Saints Row. 3 would get in the car with you and the other 4 would follow you in another car. Up to 7 would be cool again but I would be fine with at least 3. I think it wouldve been hilarious to see Brucie, Roman and Packie out together.

 

2) You couldnt do random missions with the friends. Once you pick them up to hang out all you could do was go eat or do one of the minigames. You couldn't do any of the side missions like the hitman missions, most wanted missions in the cop cars, etc. The only ppl you could do random missions with was Dwayne's backup. I though that was cool bcuz doing mission by myself was kinda boring sometimes. I should be able to hang out with any of the contacts and do side missions with them just like I could with Dwaynes backup.

Agreed with these. Seriously, I didn't like the activities. All you could do was go to Burger Shot or the Strip Club or something stupid like Bowling. I would love to actually get into something with a friend, especially a Hitman mission. It's better than sitting around not doing sh*t. And we shouldn't have to hang out with just one person. In TLaD and in TBoGT, you could hang out with more than one person, but there was nothing fun to do with them. We should at least be able to roll on somebody.

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I agree with this as it was also one of my pet peeves with IV.

 

Also I'm the type that when I take a break to snack or eat or smoke while playing, I'll post my character up at home to watch tv. I always hated how the safehouses were not populated. For example as much as Roman got on my damn nerves, it would have been nice to see him in the Algonquin and/or Broker safehouses from time to time.

 

So I'm looking forward to interacting with Michaels family in V. I hope all the characters have npc friends that can interact with them when at their safehouses. I think I mentioned in a IV thread back in the day to allow "parties" and be able to have multiple friends hanging out at various locations, but as long as one of the three characters can take over driving once in a while and we can visit each of there safehouses to interact, my concerns will be addressed.

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I agree with this as it was also one of my pet peeves with IV.

 

Also I'm the type that when I take a break to snack or eat or smoke while playing, I'll post my character up at home to watch tv.

I know what you mean. I do this with the cabs. Would be cool be able to do this with friends in cars.

 

I always hated how the safehouses were not populated. For example as much as Roman got on my damn nerves, it would have been nice to see him in the Algonquin and/or Broker safehouses from time to time.

 

So I'm looking forward to interacting with Michaels family in V. I hope all the characters have npc friends that can interact with them when at their safehouses. I think I mentioned in a IV thread back in the day to allow "parties" and be able to have multiple friends hanging out at various locations, but as long as one of the three characters can take over driving once in a while and we can visit each of there safehouses to interact, my concerns will be addressed.

Hell yeah! I'd definately like to be able to hang out at the safehouses with friends. I remember in IV Playboy's house had a pool table in it. Wouldve been cool to be able to go home and play some pool with a friend instead of having to go to a public place. Hell it would be nice to be able to take a hooker or girlfriend home too. tounge.gif Seriously tho, I'd like to be able to gather up about 3-7 friends and go to my safehouse or theirs and just kick it. If we go inside then you'll see some of them sit down and watch TV, others would relax, drink, smoke and chat away and others could even play the games that are in there like pool, arcade game, etc.

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Mainland Marauder

The friend outings might have been more exciting if they weren't just a scripted side mission, essentially. You can decide to go to a club or bowl or whatever, but just have it happen with the game world going in real time. You might be driving to the bar and one of your enemies comes up. Some of your friends might be fighters, some may not be.

 

You'll have people who say the friends and girlfriends and such are silly, but this is the sort of thing that can bring a video game city to life, rather than never being anything but a background to look at while driving around.

 

We'll have the whole city accessible, so people who just want to go out and drive 200 mph and blow stuff up can do that without messing with going out with friends.

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VERY good suggestions imo, some of that could work with our heist Crew members which we could communicate and hang out with anytime during free roam. icon14.gif

 

EDIT: An activity I wish we could do with a friend us animal hunting, who kills a type pof animal in a certain time the most.

 

And a personal activity I would love is fishing, who catches the most. (types can count for more points)

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