Map Size Thread

[Raavi]

 

@Raavi, there will be more block off screen at the bottom. People on this thread have 'added' the rest of the bank tower to the bottom of the picture and there is room for many more blocks leading up to the base.

I was trying to prove that this alone was already a bigger distance than I initially figured. Not to mention how wide Vinewood hills appears to be. Maybe not 5 blocks but 8 or 9, making it even further way. Some screenshots really are deceptive, and not in a good way.

Edited May 18, 2013 by Raavi

[Ferocious Banger]

Did a rough work to determine the distance between USBT and the Observatory if we follow a particular route.

 

 

It is 332 +684.2 + 336 +635 +57 +880 +1138

 

That is 3792.2 meters/ ~3.8 kilometers

 

In other words, 2.35 miles ( with a missing road to observatory )

 

Yeah, it is not perfect by any means ( I didn't apply the pythogorus theorem everywhere ); but it still is pretty close.

 

So, the distance between the Observatory and USBT is anything between 2 miles to 3 miles ( remember, missing road ).

 

Fun fact: The distance between USBT and the Griffith Observatory IRL is just over 9 miles.

 

 

 

 

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I will come back with a more accurate version soon.

 

On another note: Being a non-RDF member feels like being an athiest.

[Official General]

On another note: Being a non-RDF member feels like being an athiest.

Lol don't you know it !

[kesta195]

@Raavi, there will be more block off screen at the bottom. People on this thread have 'added' the rest of the bank tower to the bottom of the picture and there is room for many more blocks leading up to the base.

I was trying to prove that this alone was already a bigger distance than I initially figured. Not to mention how wide Vinewood hills appears to be. Maybe not 5 blocks but 8 or 9, making it even further way. Some screenshots really are deceptive, and not in a good way.

Why is realising that 5 blocks has been extended to 8 or 9 a bad thing?

[Raavi]

@Raavi, there will be more block off screen at the bottom. People on this thread have 'added' the rest of the bank tower to the bottom of the picture and there is room for many more blocks leading up to the base.

I was trying to prove that this alone was already a bigger distance than I initially figured. Not to mention how wide Vinewood hills appears to be. Maybe not 5 blocks but 8 or 9, making it even further way. Some screenshots really are deceptive, and not in a good way.

Why is realising that 5 blocks has been extended to 8 or 9 a bad thing?

I meant to say that some screenshots make Los Santos seem very dense causing all this debate, so negative for Rockstar.

[kesta195]

 

@Raavi, there will be more block off screen at the bottom. People on this thread have 'added' the rest of the bank tower to the bottom of the picture and there is room for many more blocks leading up to the base.

I was trying to prove that this alone was already a bigger distance than I initially figured. Not to mention how wide Vinewood hills appears to be. Maybe not 5 blocks but 8 or 9, making it even further way. Some screenshots really are deceptive, and not in a good way.

Why is realising that 5 blocks has been extended to 8 or 9 a bad thing?

I meant to say that some screenshots make Los Santos seem very dense causing all this debate, so negative for Rockstar.

Yeah true, although it's only on GTAForums that we would analyse this much anyway haha. If Ferocious Banger's theory of 2.35 miles of road from US Bank to the observatory is correct then GKP can stop with his '30 second car chase' nonsense.

[Official General]

If Ferocious Banger's theory of 2.35 miles of road from US Bank to the observatory is correct then GKP can stop with his '30 second car chase' nonsense.

I don't know about all that 30-second car chase business. But what I do know is that from what I can see in the screenshots is that the distance between downtown LS and it's surrounding districts looks small, and I can not see any decent amount of suburban environment in sight.

[kesta195]

If Ferocious Banger's theory of 2.35 miles of road from US Bank to the observatory is correct then GKP can stop with his '30 second car chase' nonsense.

I don't know about all that 30-second car chase business. But what I do know is that from what I can see in the screenshots is that the distance between downtown LS and it's surrounding districts looks small, and I can not see any decent amount of suburban environment in sight.

I expect Rockford & Vinewood Hills, along with South LS will be the only suburbs in the city, although we know there is some around Echo Park as well, we just don't know how large this area is.

[Raavi]

If Ferocious Banger's theory of 2.35 miles of road from US Bank to the observatory is correct then GKP can stop with his '30 second car chase' nonsense.

I don't know about all that 30-second car chase business. But what I do know is that from what I can see in the screenshots is that the distance between downtown LS and it's surrounding districts looks small, and I can not see any decent amount of suburban environment in sight.

There at least 5 building blocks (with streets in-between 'em) from the US bank tower to the base of hollywood. Which is about the length of two Middle Parks. Other screenshots show that there are more than 5 making it even longer. Not to mention the width of vinewood hills and that it only is one side of LS.

[DontSnitch]

Did a rough work to determine the distance between USBT and the Observatory if we follow a particular route.

 

 

It is 332 +684.2 + 336 +635 +57 +880 +1138

 

That is 3792.2 meters/ ~3.8 kilometers

 

In other words, 2.35 miles ( with a missing road to observatory )

 

Yeah, it is not perfect by any means ( I didn't apply the pythogorus theorem everywhere ); but it still is pretty close.

 

So, the distance between the Observatory and USBT is anything between 2 miles to 3 miles ( remember, missing road ).

 

Fun fact: The distance between USBT and the Griffith Observatory IRL is just over 9 miles.

 

 

 

 

--

 

I will come back with a more accurate version soon.

 

On another note: Being a non-RDF member feels like being an athiest.

What the f*ck is that supposed to prove ? It seems your failing to understand what the problem is, its the fact that R* has chopped about 80% of LA out of the f*cking game, not how long its gonna take for me to drive from here to there, I mean that's a part of it obviously but the former is what has led to that and not only have they chopped most of LA out the game but the parts that are left have been shrunk to a size so small if it was a dick Kesta's would put a stallions to shame, that says alot.

 

To all those talking about how R* did the same to NYC/Liberty City, Liberty city was boring piece of sh*t like NYC in real life only much much worse, LA is a much more vibrant and interesting place than NYC, home to Hollywood, Beverley Hills, Bel Air, Compton, Inglewood, South Central, the Porn Industry, the Valleys, Malibu, the Bloods & Crips, Long Beach, Mexican Gangs, the Hells Angels, Triads, SkinHeads its bright and sunny so what did R* they chopped 80% of that sh*t out of the f*cking game and replaced it with mountains and trees.

 

f*ck YOU ROCKSTAR

[Ferocious Banger]

GOOD NEWS, ANXIOUS FRIENDS!

 

 

Provided the scale of the map is correct, and if my calculation is correct, we are in for a city that is larger than Liberty City - including water.

 

The city from North to South is 2.4 miles.

The city from West to East is 2.81 miles

 

So, multiply them and you get this number:

 

6.75 square miles.

 

 

 

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Clarifications:-

 

*What are the blocks that you've put?

 

Ans) Those blocks are all the length of the US Bank Tower ( 310 meters each )

 

*Why have you chosen this map?

 

Ans) Because CVG said it was pretty accurate.

 

*How can this be legit?

 

Ans) This in accordance with what GI said - covers more square footage than the city of LC.

 

While it doesn't cover a whole lot, the current estimate of 6.75 is greater than 6.25, which is the size of LC.

Edited May 18, 2013 by Ferocious Banger

[kesta195]

Did a rough work to determine the distance between USBT and the Observatory if we follow a particular route.

 

 

It is 332 +684.2 + 336 +635 +57 +880 +1138

 

That is 3792.2 meters/ ~3.8 kilometers

 

In other words,  2.35 miles ( with a missing road to observatory )

 

Yeah, it is not perfect by any means ( I didn't apply the pythogorus theorem everywhere ); but it still is pretty close.

 

So, the distance between the Observatory and USBT is anything between 2 miles to 3 miles ( remember, missing road ).

 

Fun fact: The distance between USBT and the Griffith Observatory IRL is just over 9 miles.

 

 

 

 

--

 

I will come back with a more accurate version soon.

 

On another note: Being a non-RDF member  feels like being an athiest. 

What the f*ck is that supposed to prove ? It seems your failing to understand what the problem is, its the fact that R* has chopped about 80% of LA out of the f*cking game, not how long its gonna take for me to drive from here to there, I mean that's a part of it obviously but the former is what has led to that and not only have they chopped most of LA out the game but the parts that are left have been shrunk to a size so small if it was a dick Kesta's would put a stallions to shame, that says alot.

 

To all those talking about how R* did the same to NYC/Liberty City, Liberty city was boring piece of sh*t like NYC in real life only much much worse, LA is a much more vibrant and interesting place than NYC, home to Hollywood, Beverley Hills, Bel Air, Compton, Inglewood, South Central, the Porn Industry, the Valleys, Malibu, the Bloods & Crips, Long Beach, Mexican Gangs, the Hells Angels, Triads, SkinHeads its bright and sunny so what did R* they chopped 80% of that sh*t out of the f*cking game and replaced it with mountains and trees.

 

f*ck YOU ROCKSTAR

You are good at life

[GTAfan786]

 

GOOD NEWS, ANXIOUS FRIENDS!

 

 

Provided the scale of the map is correct, and if my calculation is correct, we are in for a city that is larger than Liberty City - including water.

 

The city from North to South is 2.4 miles. [/size]

The city from West to East is  2.81 miles

 

So, multiply them and you get this number:

 

6.75 square miles.

 

 

 

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 

 

Clarifications:-

 

*What are the blocks that you've put?

 

Ans) Those blocks are all the length of the US Bank Tower ( 310 meters each )

 

*Why have you chosen this map?

 

Ans) Because CVG said it was pretty accurate.

 

*How can this be legit?

 

Ans) This in accordance with what GI said - covers more square footage than the city of LC.

 

While it doesn't cover a whole lot, the current estimate of 6.75 is greater than 6.25, which is the size of LC.

Well, there you go. 6.75 is pretty much close to 7 sq miles. That's a BIG city we have.

 

 

And the the guy above, cry as much as you want because we haven't seen the rest of the city. Also long beach is in the game you retard.

[GKPsupporter]

 

GOOD NEWS, ANXIOUS FRIENDS!

 

 

Provided the scale of the map is correct, and if my calculation is correct, we are in for a city that is larger than Liberty City - including water.

 

The city from North to South is 2.4 miles. [/size]

The city from West to East is  2.81 miles

 

So, multiply them and you get this number:

 

6.75 square miles.

 

 

 

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 

 

Clarifications:-

 

*What are the blocks that you've put?

 

Ans) Those blocks are all the length of the US Bank Tower ( 310 meters each )

 

*Why have you chosen this map?

 

Ans) Because CVG said it was pretty accurate.

 

*How can this be legit?

 

Ans) This in accordance with what GI said - covers more square footage than the city of LC.

 

While it doesn't cover a whole lot, the current estimate of 6.75 is greater than 6.25, which is the size of LC.

This is actually very accurate, but if i know the "LS is small crown" well, this isnt enough to satisfy them.

 

This city will be HUUUGGE

[Ferocious Banger]

GOOD NEWS, ANXIOUS FRIENDS!

 

 

Provided the scale of the map is correct, and if my calculation is correct, we are in for a city that is larger than Liberty City - including water.

 

The city from North to South is 2.4 miles. [/size]

The city from West to East is  2.81 miles

 

So, multiply them and you get this number:

 

6.75 square miles.

 

 

 

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 

 

Clarifications:-

 

*What are the blocks that you've put?

 

Ans) Those blocks are all the length of the US Bank Tower ( 310 meters each )

 

*Why have you chosen this map?

 

Ans) Because CVG said it was pretty accurate.

 

*How can this be legit?

 

Ans) This in accordance with what GI said - covers more square footage than the city of LC.

 

While it doesn't cover a whole lot, the current estimate of 6.75 is greater than 6.25, which is the size of LC.

This is actually very accurate, but if i know the "LS is small crown" well, this isnt enough to satisfy them.

 

This city will be HUUUGGE

This doesn't even include the mountaneous terrain and the complex road structure.

[GTAfan786]

GOOD NEWS, ANXIOUS FRIENDS!

 

 

Provided the scale of the map is correct, and if my calculation is correct, we are in for a city that is larger than Liberty City - including water.

 

The city from North to South is 2.4 miles. [/size]

The city from West to East is  2.81 miles

 

So, multiply them and you get this number:

 

6.75 square miles.

 

 

 

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 

 

Clarifications:-

 

*What are the blocks that you've put?

 

Ans) Those blocks are all the length of the US Bank Tower ( 310 meters each )

 

*Why have you chosen this map?

 

Ans) Because CVG said it was pretty accurate.

 

*How can this be legit?

 

Ans) This in accordance with what GI said - covers more square footage than the city of LC.

 

While it doesn't cover a whole lot, the current estimate of 6.75 is greater than 6.25, which is the size of LC.

This is actually very accurate, but if i know the "LS is small crown" well, this isnt enough to satisfy them.

 

This city will be HUUUGGE

This doesn't even include the mountaneous terrain and the complex road structure.

Finally, someone who knows "real math". This is what you get for doubting R*.

[GKPsupporter]

Sorry ferocious banger but if you read the 100 last pages its filled with nothing but ignorance and the repetition of the same couple saying its small its small its tiny, if everyone reasoning with them failed, what makes you think this will shut them up?

 

In just a couple of minutes the same retard will quote your calculation saying "Its small", they fail to see the high draw distance improvement .

 

This is the reason why I left that ignorant crowd

[GTAfan786]

And just to add to FB's calculation, if the overall map is 25.7 sq miles, this means if LS is 6.75 just about 7 basically, the rest of the map is 18-19 sq miles.

[pookie1]

What the f*ck is that supposed to prove ? It seems your failing to understand what the problem is, its the fact that R* has chopped about 80% of LA out of the f*cking game, not how long its gonna take for me to drive from here to there, I mean that's a part of it obviously but the former is what has led to that and not only have they chopped most of LA out the game but the parts that are left have been shrunk to a size so small if it was a dick Kesta's would put a stallions to shame, that says alot.

 

To all those talking about how R* did the same to NYC/Liberty City, Liberty city was boring piece of sh*t like NYC in real life only much much worse, LA is a much more vibrant and interesting place than NYC, home to Hollywood, Beverley Hills, Bel Air, Compton, Inglewood, South Central, the Porn Industry, the Valleys, Malibu, the Bloods & Crips, Long Beach, Mexican Gangs, the Hells Angels, Triads, SkinHeads its bright and sunny so what did R* they chopped 80% of that sh*t out of the f*cking game and replaced it with mountains and trees.

 

f*ck YOU ROCKSTAR

Good god, shut the f*ck up.

 

This game is absolutely giant. Seriously, you're an idiot.

[Official General]

Sorry ferocious banger but if you read the 100 last pages its filled with nothing but ignorance and the repetition of the same couple saying its small its small its tiny, if everyone reasoning with them failed, what makes you think this will shut them up?

 

In just a couple of minutes the same retard will quote your calculation saying "Its small", they fail to see the high draw distance improvement .

 

This is the reason why I left that ignorant crowd

Measurements are all well and good, but I wanna see a decent amount of suburbs and ghettos. If I can see that, I promise I will be content with the city's size as I see it.

[Ferocious Banger]

If my above calculation of a distance of 2.35 miles between USBT and the observatory is correct, they are doing the "sense of sprawl" part expertly.

[Official General]

If my above calculation of a distance of 2.35 miles between USBT and the observatory is correct, they are doing the "sense of sprawl" part expertly.

Well I very much hope so man, believe that.

[Raavi]

If my above calculation of a distance of 2.35 miles  between USBT and the observatory is correct,  they are doing the "sense of sprawl" part expertly.

Well I very much hope so man, believe that.

I do to.. Looks like it's gonna be bigger than we thought.

[GKP]

2.35 miles - by road , not in a straight line.

 

 

The SE of the city is water so that nearly 7 sq miles is not correct. It is NOWHERE near 7 sq miles. CVG stated 1/8 to 1/10.....

 

Lets say its a 1/7 to be generous . We are not getting a 42 or 49 sq mile land area !!!!

 

Its 21 or 22 sq miles. The city is 4 sq miles MAX. Use your heads.

[kesta195]

CVG stated 1/8 to 1/10.....

For the last time, that was an ESTIMATE. They also said 25-30%, but obviously you have just selected the smaller one because it suits your argument better. Ferocious Banger has done some pretty accurate calculations here and you reject them with more of the same complaints.

[GTAfan786]

 

2.35 miles - by road , not in a straight line.

 

 

The SE of the city is water so that nearly 7 sq miles is not correct. It is NOWHERE near 7 sq miles. CVG stated 1/8 to 1/10.....

 

Lets say its a 1/7 to be generous . We are not getting a 42 or 49 sq mile land area !!!!

 

Its 21 or 22 sq miles. The city is 4 sq miles MAX. Use your heads.

GKP, you're just an idiot. Your calculations are wrong, face the facts.

 

 

CVG estimated that, because they said they COULD NOT SEE THE MAP properly.

 

 

Like i said before, GTA SA = 13.9 SQ miles, RDR= 5.5 and IV = 6.3 (rounded up from 6.25) = 25.7

 

The whole map is 25.7 sq miles. And unless SOMEHOW they include RDR's unplayable area then it would be 32 sq miles altogether.

 

 

Therefore, look at FB's calculation for the size of the city, it makes sense.

[kesta195]

2.35 miles - by road , not in a straight line.

 

 

The SE of the city is water so that nearly 7 sq miles is not correct. It is NOWHERE near 7 sq miles. CVG stated 1/8 to 1/10.....

 

Lets say its a 1/7 to be generous . We are not getting a 42 or 49 sq mile land area !!!!

 

Its 21 or 22 sq miles. The city is 4 sq miles MAX. Use your heads.

GKP, you're just an idiot. Your calculations are wrong, face the facts.

 

 

CVG estimated that, because they said they COULD NOT SEE THE MAP properly.

 

 

Like i said before, GTA SA = 13.9 SQ miles, RDR= 5.5 and IV = 6.3 (rounded up from 6.25) = 25.7

 

The whole map is 25.7 sq miles. And unless SOMEHOW they include RDR's unplayable area then it would be 32 sq miles altogether.

 

 

Therefore, look at FB's calculation for the size of the city, it makes sense.

And if you take CVG's estimate of 25% city coverage to be correct, the size values fit.

[GKP]

Kesta - NO NO NO ...THINK...they said they saw 180 - 220 degrees of the map. 30% OF THE SECTION THEY SAW.

 

That makes perfect sense. For the other journos saw the whole map and said the country was 1/8 - 1/10.

 

 

56:00 onwards

[kesta195]

Kesta - NO NO NO ...THINK...they said they saw 180 - 220 degrees of the map. 30% OF THE SECTION THEY SAW.

 

That makes perfect sense. For the other journos saw the whole map and said the country was 1/8 - 1/10.

We have no idea how much map was behind them. They could have been at the edge of the map for all we know, so that extra 140 degrees may have been just ocean. Anyway there is no point in putting any stock into those figures. There is no way you can accurately predict how much of the map a distant smog covered city covers whilst in freefall. I see no major flaws in FB's calculations. How is a 2.4 x 2.8 mile city hard so believe, given some of the screens we have been shown (NOT including the observatory one)?

[GKP]

Its not hard to believe Kesta - its just that the shape of the map is a irregular polygon and large chunks of the sea - mountains eat into that virtual rectangle of 2.4 by 2.8 leading to a smaller area. Those figures are very likely the extreme dimensions of the city.

 

I have no doubt the extreme left to right distance is 2.8 if not 3 miles.

Edited May 18, 2013 by GKP