Map Size Thread

[GKP]

Emeritus..the LAND area of IV is a mere 3.2 sq miles. FACT.

 

 

[Emeritus]

 

 

Liberty City is slightly smaller than SA

Liberty City is less than half the size of San Andreas.

It's been proven that the size of Liberty City in GTA IV is only slightly smaller than San Andreas.

No, it really hasn't. See earlier post.

Yes it really has. Do you think I'm just making this up? There have been tons of discussions about it and this was the conclusion they all came to.

 

 

Emeritus..the LAND area of IV is a mere 3.2 sq miles. FACT.

 

Dinosaurs are a lie people believe because they are weak. FACT.

[Kifflom112]

OG - be careful with swearing. A lot of people here are rather sensitive and like to report people. Even though of course these ignorant posters deserve a lot more, you may get a temp ban.

Swearing shows immaturity and doesn't make your claim any more/less valid. I just hope people realize this.

Cursing is the devil scratching at your voice box. Let god into your life and release these demons.

 

Please stay on topic. Thank you.

Yeah... whatever you say. weirdo

For those confused, Liberty City is evidently way smaller than San Andreas State.

[kesta195]

 

Liberty City is slightly smaller than SA

Liberty City is less than half the size of San Andreas.

It's been proven that the size of Liberty City in GTA IV is only slightly smaller than San Andreas.

No, it really hasn't. See earlier post.

Yes it really has. Do you think I'm just making this up? There have been tons of discussions about it and this was the conclusion they all came to.

Care to point me towards these unimaginably accurate calculations? Seriously all you have to do is type in to google 'San Andreas size' and they all say the same thing: 13.9sq miles. Did you think they were just making it up?

[Ferocious Banger]

 

*Pardon me if this is a messy looking work. I've got studies to do in few minutes. Ignore the black line.*

 

 

Before the line goes up abruptly as it nears the Observatory, in the consistent line, ~four US Bank Towers ( 310 m ) can be fitted approximately.

 

That is 0.812 mile.

 

Then as the hill comes in, pythagoras theorem had to be applied, twice.

 

The adjacent to the first right angled triangle is 289 meters. The second right angled triangle ( which ends at the observatory ), has its adjacent as 461.3 meters/

 

461.3+289+1308 = 2058.3 m.

 

That is 2.058 kilometers.

 

In other words, ~1.278 miles from the US Bank Tower to the Observatory.

 

 

*Not the perfect figure.

*The figure hasn't taken the layout of roads into consideration.

 

Adding to this, Rockstar always elongates the distances between two points by clever mapping. So, expect this to be at least a two mile drive from Downtown to the Observatory.

Edited May 17, 2013 by Ferocious Banger

[brian.]

 

Liberty City is slightly smaller than SA

Liberty City is less than half the size of San Andreas.

hahahahahahah NO

LC = 6.25sq miles

SA = 13sq miles

 

Look it up.

Look about right to you, did I get it close?

 

[GKP]

Brian, thats incorrect scaling.

[kesta195]

 

Liberty City is slightly smaller than SA

Liberty City is less than half the size of San Andreas.

hahahahahahah NO

LC = 6.25sq miles

SA = 13sq miles

 

Look it up.

Look about right to you, did I get it close?

 

Yeah that is probably right. But if you added up all the areas on there not covered by LC (including the LC waterways) you would be surprised how much square mileage is left over.

[Emeritus]

Brian, thats incorrect scaling.

For once, I agree. It's close, but LC should be about 75% larger.

[brian.]

How can you be sure? The double-lane highways and single roads match in size.

[kesta195]

Brian, thats incorrect scaling.

For once, I agree. It's close, but LC should be about 75% larger.

75% larger? You mean, almost double the size it is now? 75% of what it currently is would probably be more accurate.

[Choco Taco]

Look at this image - http://i.imgur.com/T9a0tPN.jpg

 

You can see where the observatory would be in the middle picture and the construction area is right next to downtown.

 

In the image below, you can count the buildings from all the way north to all the way south.

 

 

[brian.]

The easter bay runway is also exactly the same length as the LC runways.

 

edit: I remember, GTA SA has the exact same bounds set as IV, so the east-to-west of LC must fit within that map, so yea, a bit too big. The southern area of the bounds is unused in IV.

 

Here is a proper 1:1, correctly scaled liberty city vs san andreas, or am I a wee bit too small now, maybe?

 

Edited May 17, 2013 by brian.

[Triple Vacuum Seal]

 

To be frank.  The overall map size should compensate for any perceived shortcomings of LS' size.  Fido_le_muet's map on the mapping thread looks pretty big and it's estimated at 22 sq mi.  If the land of GTAV is to be at least around 3.5x the size of RDR (~12 sq mi), then that comes out to 42 sq mi.  That's massive.  If all of that topography talk has merit, then much would be chiseled off that value.  But it's still a large value to chisel from.

 

*Let me reiterate that these are very rough numbers here.  Just estimates.

I disagree completely. We only get 1 city. The size/detail of the city is much more important than the overall map size.

 

If LS has alot more interiors I will be happy.

I never said anything about one city though. Though I've taken a lot of flaming for this position, I don't subscribe to the theory that LS is the only city. In other words, we can't say "the hell with this map" until we've seen it in its entirety.

Edited May 17, 2013 by canttakemyid

[kesta195]

That's more like it.

[UrbanTheEmcee]

The easter bay runway is also exactly the same length as the LC runways.

 

edit: I remember, GTA SA has the exact same bounds set as IV, so the east-to-west of LC must fit within that map, so yea, a bit too big. The southern area of the bounds is unused in IV.

 

Here is a proper 1:1, correctly scaled liberty city vs san andreas, or am I a wee bit too small now, maybe?

 

This is inaccurate. I know for a fact that middle park alone is as big as Los Santos airport. (LSX)

 

 

[IDredMan]

Well ..As long as it's exciting enough, I don't really mind if it's as big as Liberty City.

[GKP]

To be fair to Brian I think the first pic he posted is not far off the mark. Algonquin is 2.2 miles long...with SA being 3.7 miles north to south he needs only reduce the LC size by 10 per cent say.

 

 

Regardless...it is clear that IV is significantly smaller than SA.

[Official General]

That San Andreas map still looks so great. It's a shame we could not get a current gen version of it in GTA V.

[Choco Taco]

[GKP]

Heres a question !

 

 

Does SA hold the GTA crown still , V included, for urban area ?...I think it edges IV out .

 

 

EDIT - actually, its quite hard to tell.

[kesta195]

Heres a question !

 

 

Does SA hold the GTA crown still , V included, for urban area ?...I think it edges IV out .

Looking at Choco's comparison, provided it is scaled accurately, I'd say IV had slightly more urban space.

[Ferocious Banger]

Size of LS ( partially )

 

 

From Observatory to Downtown:

 

 

 

Before the line goes up abruptly as it nears the Observatory, in the consistent line, ~four US Bank Towers ( 310 m ) can be fitted approximately.

 

That is 0.812 mile.

 

Then as the hill comes in, pythagoras theorem had to be applied, twice.

 

The adjacent to the first right angled triangle is 289 meters. The second right angled triangle ( which ends at the observatory ), has its adjacent as 461.3 meters/

 

461.3+289+1308 = 2058.3 m.

 

That is 2.058 kilometers.

 

In other words, ~1.278 miles from the US Bank Tower to the Observatory.

 

 

 

From East ( what we have seen ) to West ( what we can see/have seen ):

 

 

I know the the picture is skewed. But its the best we've got yet.

 

As you can see, more than 8 but lesser than 9 US Bank Towers can be fitted across; That is - (8*310) + 208.988765 m.

 

That is 2.689 kilometers.

 

In other words, 1.67 miles.

 

If the map was only between the Observatory and downtown ( N to S ) and what we can see from East to West,

 

Then the size would be:

 

2.13 sq miles.

 

Assuming the distance between Downtown and and the bridge is another 1.2 miles and if somehow we get another mile to play with over at East LS and west LS combined, we'd get:

 

6.08 sq miles, which is about the size of Liberty City including water.

 

Edited May 17, 2013 by Ferocious Banger

[AceHigh11]

 

Well ..As long as it's exciting enough, I don't really mind if it's as big as Liberty City.

Me too. But this thread is really fun to browse through and see what everyone has to say.

 

As someone said before. I enjoy the popcorn too.

 

Edit: and to the poster above me. Nice work!

[œaœa]

^^no you're wrong los santos is small because it doesn't have the same house in that one spot or the other /sarcasm

 

Really though, nice job.

 

 

 

 

[GKP]

FB I strongly doubt that LS is 6 sq miles.

 

For one , the recent CVG interview mentioned they saw a '180 to 220 degree' view of the map and the city was approximately 1/3 of this.

 

The city at most makes up for 1/6 of the map..at the very most. We know as a certainty that the land area of V is not larger than 21, 22 sq miles.

 

The city will take up no more than 3.5 sq miles.

[gtamann123]

FB I strongly doubt that LS is 6 sq miles.

 

For one , the recent CVG interview mentioned they saw a '180 to 220 degree' view of the map and the city was approximately 1/3 of this.

 

The city at most makes up for 1/6 of the map..at the very most. We know as a certainty that the land area of V is not larger than 21, 22 sq miles.

 

The city will take up no more than 3.5 sq miles.

If you still believe that LS will be half the size of LC you have some issues dude. It's been confirmed its ATLEAST as big as LC.

[kesta195]

FB I strongly doubt that LS is 6 sq miles.

 

For one , the recent CVG interview mentioned they saw a '180 to 220 degree' view of the map and the city was approximately 1/3 of this.

 

The city at most makes up for 1/6 of the map..at the very most. We know as a certainty that the land area of V is not larger than 21, 22 sq miles.

 

The city will take up no more than 3.5 sq miles.

It's a pretty accurate analysis by Ferocious Banger or a complete estimate from CVG, who saw the city at an angle from a distance. Why would you go with the latter?

[73duster]

I'm still waiting to hear what the complainers want Rockstar to do at THIS point. I've asked several times before, but instead of offering THEIR solution, they just want to keep complaining about something that is a done deal. The game is at the end of development. DO YOU WANT ROCKSTAR TO POSTPONE THE GAME? REDEVELOP THE ENTIRE MAP? WHAT?

Why can't any of you answer this? It's perfectly fine to express your opinion, but at some point, you have beaten it to death. We get it! It's too small for you. 114 pages and counting about the same fan made map comparisons based on made up numbers.

Perhaps the lead genius can enlighten us with what his solution is AT THIS POINT.

[skillz7855]

FB I strongly doubt that LS is 6 sq miles.

 

For one , the recent CVG interview mentioned they saw a '180 to 220 degree' view of the map and the city was approximately 1/3 of this.

 

The city at most makes up for 1/6 of the map..at the very most. We know as a certainty that the land area of V is not larger than 21, 22 sq miles.

 

The city will take up no more than 3.5 sq miles.

If they said that city was 1/3 of the land mass of map that means its the size of RDR which is bigger than IV. 1/5 if you include the ocean floor.